Influencer Bretman Rock says separate clothing for men and women 'shouldn't even really be a thing'

Farewell My Concubine (Bye Felicia)

He should stick to banter with Corpse in Among Us.

Dumb Crazy Asians

Influencing whom? When? With what?! Insufferable queen.

Whether these non-binary assholes like it or not, Men & Women have different body types that demand different clothing needs. Unless we all just start wearing hospital gowns on a daily basis, we'll always need different clothing!

And who is this fucking idiot "influencing" anyway?

Isn’t he technically a Ladyboy?

Ladyboy is the (not so literal) English translation for Kathoey. It is a Thai term that is very close to being the equivalent of a transgender woman. It can also encapsulate effeminate gay men.

Anyone can wear whatever they like. Who cares? I’m a woman who wears men’s Levi’s (because I’m slim-hipped and I enjoy actual pockets) and pea coat (again, pockets) and LL Bean boots.

It’s a lot more acceptable for women to wear men’s clothing. But if a man wants to wear a skirt and let his junk breathe, or torture his feet with high heels, it’s fine by me.

🙄 Bitch, please. As if anyone cares about what this twerp thinks about anything.

You go right ahead and be your best little gender-bending self. And you can be certain that you’re not influencing anyone.

Well there's someone you wouldn't want to headbutt.

So brave!

A STRONG TransWoman of Color!

Why are you posting this weird shit here?

R2 I do enjoy Corpse's deep voice and when he says "what up baby."

Please God, bring back real men!

We’re all going to look back in 20 years and feel deep, deep shame over all this tranny/non gender bullshit. What an embarrassing culture moment.

You lost me at influencer.

No more...no more...about The Crying Game

I agree.

And btw people only have a problem when it’s a biological male.

Biological females can wear any clothing style they want.

What precisely is this dimwit influencing.

People bandy that term about too loosely. Having an Insta and wearing bold eye makeup doesn’t make you an influencer.

Superman said it best

We covered this already

His MTV show premieres this week. Has anyone watched?

Well she’s entitled to her opinion. I’m only going to shop at a place where I know that and I’m getting men’s clothes. Perhaps younger people don’t have this issue. Que sera sera

Another stunt queen. How unique.

Candace Owens we need you!

For the most part men's clothing is better made and less expensive than women's clothing.

He looks like me when I was young and fab!

Is he a corporate version of a club kid?

That’s idiotic our bodies and so different

His nickname is Bossy Bottom

r18, I actually agree with him, too, and for the same reason you mentioned. I understand the bodytype argument when it comes to fitting. However, I'm looking at it from the perspective of style and comfort. It's ridiculous that it's okay for females to wear clothing styles and fabrics traditionally associated with males, but when a male does it (e.g., wearing a silk top or a skirt) people lose their mind and overthink it instead of considering he just likes that particular piece.

The trans are going to hate this. If a man can wear women's clothing and still be a man then that erases their entire genderist fetish.

I'm amazed how he got rich from his You-Tube Channel. He was able to buy a beautiful house in Hawaii at the age of 21. There are videos of him showing off his house but also being locked out of it which was hilarious.

She has influenced me to never pay her the slightest bit of attention again.

He’ll age out within seconds.

R26

Females buy and wear male clothes all the time, and no one really cares.

Males buy and wear female clothes, and it’s the end of the world.

This won't go very far. The vast majority of men wouldn't put up with it.

Gender specific clothing has more to do with sizing and fit. Nobody really gives a shit is this tard wants to wear makeup and a pencil skirt to the piggly wiggly.

Influencer??? For whom, exactly freaks??

Freak 101

I was maybe 6 or 7, so you'll have to forgive me if I don't have sharp detailed memories. But I seem to remember the 1960s, from around 1967 onward, as a time when unisexual clothing became fashionable. So, isn't this just puerile pastiche for somebody who can't come up with something original?

I actually agree; over the past few years I've actually started buying clothes from women's departments, mainly due to a better and more flattering fit. I have a few pairs of women's jeans that I like, and I am not above buying women's versions of mens shoes. As I've gotten older, I've started enjoying the cross between mens and womens looks (like sequins or florals for men). With that said, I am not about to go down the street in a skirt and blouse on stilettos. I'm not that bold yet and hope never to be.

What IS that . . . [italic]thing[/italic] . . . in OP’s post?

Qui était cette cunt?

I don't mind him when he's with Corpse in Among Us

I suppose Mr Bretman thinks we should all bleed like Miss Kiran Gandhi.

Also, he looks ok when he's not going for a costume look.

He goes by "Bretman Rock", and he looks like that? Something here isn't working. And because he refers to himself as an "influencer", I strongly suspect it's him.

Shopping for clothes would be EXHAUSTING if it were all unisex. It would take twice as long, for most people.

Yes, people should be able to wear clothing made for the opposite sex. They do that already. No one cares, believe me. But that’s not the same thing as making all items (excluding underwear) unisex, which seems to be what this VIP is hoping for.

Wasn't he a judge on ANTM?

Was that the Anna Nicole show?

I feel so much dumber for having read the OP’s Insider article. Fashion is a vapid industry to begin with, but this baby queen takes it to another level.

Stop pushing this non-binary genderfluid shit

Influencer? Try cautionary tale!

Thankfully we know IT will not be passing on ITS genetic material, and that's comforting.

R36, that's because men's clothing is comfortable and practical, and traditional women's clothing is uncomfortable and sexually suggestive. Men's clothing says, "I'm just living my life." Women's clothing says, "I demand your attention and in fact I'm a bit desperate for it."

Yet, I don’t he’d appreciate it if suddenly all the hot jockbros would start dressing all girly.

[quote] Whether these non-binary assholes like it or not, Men & Women have different body types that demand different clothing needs.

No more so than thin people and fats.

Lots of clothes that shouldn't be worn by fats are made for them.

Unless you are a 19 year old twig, you can't wear women's clothing. First off, their body types and build is different. Sure, a few women may be build like planks but even then, their legs and arms taper differently and shoulders and hips are different. I could NEVER wear women's clothing, it would look weird on my body ffs and just gauche. Personally, this shit has to stop. We are different than women and they are different than us and even bathrobes and sweats are different.

Let's also be clear on the fact that a lot of Western women like my sister, who is athletic and in tip-top shape, can't wear a lot of the clothing made in Asian countries because her hips and breasts don't fit. Lots of the reason Banana Republic lost clients was because their clothes were made such that when you go in, you see only Asian professional women and no other women. In fact, there was a recent article about how part of the reason for the whole stretch addition to fabrics was because with so many clothes made in China, they were losing sale in West because nobody could fit in them.

[quote] Unless you are a 19 year old twig, you can't wear women's clothing.

More than 75% of US women are overweight or obese.

Opinions are like assholes, most of them stink.

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No. Women's clothes are not that comfortable or nice looking.

R15 According to Anti-Oppression activist YK Hong and the celebrities who agree with YK like Christopher Sean.

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Bretman Rock "shouldn't even really be a thing."

[quote]Isn’t he technically a Ladyboy?

Technically, he's a Radyboy!

This is why the GOP is going to win in 2022 and 2024....These Trannys shoving their NON IDENTITY BinaryBS on society...It is going to get the Republicans out in droves to take over the House and Senate...

He's saying I want to wear women's clothes and not be stigmatized for it and that can only happen if all stores assume I'm the norm.

Sorry. You're not.

Also, that woman could have used a menstrual cup, since most will last five hours or have menstrual extraction, which removes the menses at one time. I thought bleeding in public was the kind of thing women have nightmares about ..

WTH is Christopher Sean going on about r62?

DID YOU KNOW-----Bretman Rock Edition = According to his Wiki page he is an "internet sensation"...."In April 2020, he asked that his fans not visit his home uninvited, especially during the Covid Crisis"-----Such BRAVERY....So WISE....And all with a High School Diploma!!

Women do not wear men's clothes. Women wear types of clothing traditionally only associated with men, such as trousers, but women are not wearing trousers that are made for men, they are wearing trousers specifically made for women, as their bodies are different. Men would also struggle to put women's trousers on.

I agree types of clothing shouldn't be limited to either gender, but they have to be specifically designed to take into account the differences in men's and women's bodies. Dresses, for example, should be specifically designed for men's bodies.

[quote]R5 Whether these non-binary assholes like it or not, Men & Women have different body types that demand different clothing needs. Unless we all just start wearing hospital gowns on a daily basis, we'll always need different clothing!

Are you referring to bras?

What are his escorting fees?

Every time you decide you want to be called a "non binary THEY human being"---thats like daring Republicans to vote in the next election..The Republicans know it is a WINNING strategy for THEM....That is why they are running against Trans Rights so hard...

R68 CS reposted that post in his stories from that activist. Who says that if you don't believe that gender is a spectrum then you are engaging in white supremacy.

Back to Bretman some of the things in his house look tacky.

Christ have Repugs taken over DL? Calling him a freak? You Marys are starting to sound as boring and basic as Fraus and breeders.

He's so BRAVE and ORIGINAL. This generation of young queerlings think they are the first to think of everything. You are not the first man to wear a dress, trans people were around MANY years before 2020 and Rupaul did not create drag he just capitalized off of it the most. Know your history, bitches.

Should have been a crib death.

R76 = Rupaul ripped off so much from "Paris is Burning" I'm surprised he hasn't been sued by them...

I don't get why the ones who reject sex-based differences the fiercest always enjoy stereotypes at most, like extensive makeup, etc.

We went for several days without the anti trans trolls, what happened? Why are they all back and spamming us with posts and bumping stupid old stuff like this?

[quote] Please God, bring back real men!

Yes, the straight ones.

[quote] Shopping for clothes would be EXHAUSTING if it were all unisex. It would take twice as long, for most people.

Oh, stfu, lazy fat ass.

[quote] We’re all going to look back in 20 years and feel deep, deep shame over all this tranny/non gender bullshit. What an embarrassing culture moment.

Grandpa, you’ll be dead by then.

Men have been wearing women’s skinny jeans for the last 20 years.

Bretman Rock?

Is that Vietnamese or Chinese?

Men haven't been wearing women's skinny jeans for the last 20 years, 84. Men have been wearing skinny jeans designed and made for men's bodies, inspired by the women's version. A man probably wouldn't even be able to get his foot into the leg of the skinny jeans that women wear.

R80, presumably by anti-trans you mean the idea that there shouldn't be separate clothing for men and women but everyone should wear the same clothing. Because most trans are obsessed with the idea of wearing the clothing designed for the gender they wish they were. Transwomen dress in the most extreme form of women's clothing, almost a caricature, while transmen dress like 15-year-old teenage boys.

If anyone is maintaining gender differences in clothing, it's the trans.

R83 don't you think it's past your bedtime, child?

R87 people like r80 call everything "anti-trans" if you don't agree with their ideas about gender theory. It's their way of silencing any debate, no matter how ridiculous the idea you are critiquing.

"We're all born naked, the rest is drag".

R90 I don't think RuPaul has any original thought or catchphrases. They are all pulled from other people, just stamped with the RuCo trademark.

Someone should explain him that most people are not that fond of gender non conforming clothing

There should be separate clothing for desperate, idiotic attention whores like him though.

R93 if anyone tried, they would be shouted down and accused of being anti-trans or transphobic. They don't like intrusions into their alternate realities.

R94, those needy attention whores are going to complain anyway. If there were no separate clothing for women or men, the same loons would be screeching about how thoughtless and patriarchal it all is for not acknowledging that body shapes and types of men and women are different.

No point in trying to appease this mob. They will always find something to be offended by.

I’m a LADY!

Jeeze. They'se's got 16 million followers on Instagram. That's crazy!

But to answer OP's question - I don't give a fuck about what someone else wears. How does it effect me? The answer is that it doesn't. Not even in the slightest.

Other people should wear whatever they want as long as it isn't socially offensive (like genitals hanging out) and doesn't restrict any other people's rights.

On another note - do I think they looks like idiots sometimes? Yes.

R97 thinking they look like idiots is Literal violence!

R97 It's not a question of caring about what other people wears (everyone should wear whatever they want) it's a question of not being practical at all not separate clothes for sex because that's exactly what most people want, and even it won't be easier to find whatever you want if they don't separate the clothes

R99 common sense and practicality don't apply to skinny Asian twinks who can fit into womens' clothing, apparently. All his comments do is point out how much of a mental bubble he lives in.

No one is stopping them from buying the clothes they want, so what's their problem?

R70? Your "mansplaining" is, of course, incorrect. I wear men's jeans. From the men's department. Made to fit men. They fit me very well (which is why I wear them), and I have been wearing them for many years.

I also wear "men's" T-shirts. I have been wearing them my entire adult life, including the one I have (now archived) from the March on Washington in 1993.

And guess what else? I wear "men's" shoes. I have exceptionally wide feet; when I was a child, my mother had to take me to a special shoe store to get my one pair of school shoes for the year (penny loafers) in a girl's size wide. Of course, when I was a teenager, I started wearing boy's sneakers to school, so my wide feet ceased to be a serious problem. I currently have a couple of pairs of shoes that are made for women (New Balance makes wide sizes in women's sneakers), but certainly all my motorcycle boots and my Clark's boots were made for men.

Back in the 70s when I marched in the women's lib marches, we always said, "It's not men's clothing if a woman is wearing it."

I saw an advertisement for a company that makes “non-binary” shoes. The whole concept of “non-binary” shoes means shoes made on a man’s last, and the vast majority of women can’t wear the shoes, unless they wear two pairs of socks or stuff innersoles in them to make them smaller. Then your heels are slipping or you’re getting blisters. Men’s shoes are drastically wider than most women’s feet.

In that case, they’re really making men’s only shoes and telling women they’re not important enough to deserve shoes that fit, only men deserve that. A lot of the shoes had flowers or other designs that women would like, only to find that there were no women’s sizes.

Same thing with pants. Most women have broader hips than men, because women give birth. It has nothing to do with being fat, their bone structure is different. Some women have narrower hips and can wear men’s pants without altering them, but they are a minority. The whole “everyone can wear each others’ clothes” idea most means all clothes are made for the male figure, and no clothes are made for the woman’s figure. Trying to erase women’s needs to make a political point is asinine, especially coming from an Asian male, because Asian women’s bodies and clothing are a lot narrower that most Europeans, Latinas or Africans, and they’re not representative of most women.

If men want to wear flowered clothes or whatever, make them in men’s sizes and everybody will be happy. A guy like this should go on a site like eShakti, where they have certain clothing styles and they are custom made to your measurements.

R103 what about trans women who don't give birth and have men's hips, for some totally unknown reason because they are totally women and always have been?! What then?!!!

It’s funny that this thing thinks it influences people.

Is he the progeny of an Old Rich White Guy and the Filipino domestic?

R104, then they can wear men’s pants, or have their pants altered in some cases. Go on the eShakti site, that’s a good place for people with unusual measurements who want to look good. They offer all their clothes with different sleeve lengths, neckline styles from the highest neckline to plunging necklines, and different hem lengths, and you can see how it will look on a model on the site.

I first became aware of that site because I saw a heavy woman in an advertisement wearing a really nice dress that was more stylish than is usually available for women her size, and it fitted her very well. And the neckline and sleeve length were more modest that average, so I went to the site. It’s a good site for very large or very small women, and they have a lot of styles that suit people of different figures. A lot of regular women’s clothing stores either have styles that fit small women and end at about a 36” bust, or the plus size styles are built for women with huge chests and very fat arms, which doesn’t apply to every woman. They are for very top heavy women. The sleeves on plus sizes are also very long. They assume large women are also very tall. My mom used to have trouble with that. She was 5 feet tall and they were making sleeves for 6’ tall women in her size. A lot of heavy older women are short, so that’s really common.

Why does this thread have the stench of anti-trans posters on it?

Fascinating.

And this person is who now?

Men’s clothes are generally very boring. It must be fun to be a woman and have so many choices. That’s the only reason I’d want to be female. Oh and the fact that even a fug can land a fine piece of ass if she’s willing that do kink.

[quote]people should wear whatever they want as long as it isn't socially offensive (like genitals hanging out) and doesn't restrict any other people's rights.

Basically.

I'm a lesbian too, r102. Perhaps the one making gender assumptions is you.

Your body might look fine in men's clothing (or you look like a tramp but people are too polite to point it out to you) but for most women men's clothing is just way too baggy and shapeless. Not every woman is into the Bille Eilish look, although even she's abandoned it now she's grown up a bit. You might like the look of men's jeans hanging off your arse or the crotch area rising each time you sit down, but a man is very unlikely to be able to get into a pair of women's skinny jeans. Some girls have big feet and you're obviously one of them but the average man would not be able to put on an average woman's shoe

[quote] a man is very unlikely to be able to get into a pair of women's skinny jeans.

Someone said my name?

What men fail to understand is that the semiotic of them wearing womens’ clothes is not equivalent to women wearing mens’ clothes, because of the designated signification of each.

From the day the womens’ fashion industry was born, it was about objectification, but that wasn’t the case with mens’ clothes. There’s an encoded sociopolitical history here that men in their entitled way refuse to respect. This isn’t just about costume and playing dress-up; clothes make hard statements about status, freedoms, and social power.

How is it fair that a white girl will get dragged through mud for wearing cornrows, but a white boy can wear a skimpy sundress and it’s not making mock? I seriously do not understand the double standard of those preaching here.

Are you sure you're a lesbian, R112? We're women, not girls. But then again, you already knew that.

And if you are a lesbian, how old are you? And even if you are close to my age, perhaps you should show a little respect for a woman who was fighting for your rights in the 1970s.

Where did I say anything about girls? In what way am I disrespecting you? By saying that, on the basis of the description of your wardrobe, you must look like a tramp?

Try being a little less pompous, you might be taken seriously.

From a practical standpoint, women’s clothing is cut differently. Try wearing a unisex t-shirt or sweatshirt when you have wide shoulders.

R108 because you're always looking to be offended and call people "anti-trans", I'm guessing.

Unisex fashion has been around for ages. But NOW it has become an issue, because trolls use it as an excuse to rant about Trans.

Was Rock's statement stupid? It was, because different people have different tastes. He can wear whatever the fuck he wants. Haters gonna hate.

R119 unisex fashion isn't the issue, dingus. It's the YouTube personality stating that we need to get rid of sexed clothing entirely. You're the main person talking about trans, because you are obsessed with whatever crusade you have on the DL.

Or to out it in feminist terms, it's just another privileged man wanting to take things away for women because he is representative of a certain sect of society that is trying to abolish sex-specific rights.