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Madonna and Michael Jackson hated each other, supposedly

Two of the three biggest stars in the world hating each other?? Was there envy? Jealousy? Betrayal?

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by Anonymousreply 90April 17, 2021 5:19 AM

Madonna’s a cunt but who cares what a dead pedophile thinks?

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2021 12:01 AM

Why are you posting this dated GARBAGE clickbait, OP? What the hell is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2021 12:07 AM

Go back to Lipstick Alley, OP.

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2021 12:12 AM

Was the sky blue, OP?

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2021 12:20 AM

Michael said Madonna was wanton and nasty.

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2021 12:31 AM

Not a big fan of either of them as people but I have my doubts that Madonna has much time for a pedophile.

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2021 12:31 AM

Michael also hated Prince and vice versa. He was a nasty, jealous POS.

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2021 12:33 AM

Michael the jealous one? He’s the one who had the biggest success r7

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2021 12:40 AM

R8 it is WELL KNOWN he was a petty, jealous freak. He was stagnant after Bad and he knew it.

by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2021 12:42 AM

R9 I was going to say, MJ had a lot of people backing him during his peak and they all fell away after that. He didn't have the writing talent of Prince and that's why he was jealous.

by Anonymousreply 10February 4, 2021 12:46 AM

I always wondered what Michael thought of Madonna taking the La Isla Bonita instrumental after he rejected it.

by Anonymousreply 11February 4, 2021 12:56 AM

MJ was a really mean, ugly person but his image was so sheltered and sanitized. As a human being, he was atrocious. A monster.

by Anonymousreply 12February 4, 2021 1:01 AM

Did she really blow him on the way, in the back of the limo?

by Anonymousreply 13February 4, 2021 1:03 AM

Of course not. They played with his Masters of the Universe figures.

by Anonymousreply 14February 4, 2021 1:07 AM

And to think I've been calling them Mackson for 20 years!

by Anonymousreply 15February 4, 2021 1:08 AM

R13 How could she blow him when he doesn’t like women?

MJ fans really push this stud image that is just achingly laughable.

by Anonymousreply 16February 4, 2021 1:17 AM

Oh please. Prince never ever sold MJ numbers, even at his peak.

by Anonymousreply 17February 4, 2021 1:40 AM

It wasn’t just about sales- MJ was just a fucking nut. He was a disturbed, paranoid individual, a sociopathic narcissist.

by Anonymousreply 18February 4, 2021 1:46 AM

I think Madonna realizing on the ride over: "Shit, I'm the normal one" probably put paid to any relationship.

by Anonymousreply 19February 4, 2021 1:59 AM

Madonna hated everyone and everyone hated her. That's not new. She loved Prince though though he was still a rival.

Mike was fake and was very jealous and sabotaged many. He had to be the one on top.

Prince and Madonna had a love/hate/lust thing going on. Prince respected Mike's talent but thought he was weird and immature. Prince couldn't bash Madonna because he had too many non-singing proteges in harem he was pushing onto to the radio.

Whitney hated Madonna and was cool with Mike and Prince. Prince respected her talent.

Prince had a grudge against Janet because Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, his former bandmates took the Minneapolis sound and made "Control" with it. Janet was a fan of P. So she probably felt hurt.

by Anonymousreply 20February 4, 2021 2:56 AM

Madonna reserved most of her bitchiness for her female rivals like Whitney, Janet and Mariah and to a lesser extent Courtney Love. She also hates Gaga.

Madge liked Britney because wasn't a threat. She definitely considered Beyoncé, Ciara, Rihanna and even Nelly Furtado more a threat and concern. Hence she hopped on the hip-hop sound.

by Anonymousreply 21February 4, 2021 3:00 AM

You all keep claiming Michael was jealous... of WHAT??? His songs were all going to number 1, or top 10, his albums were selling in millions like no one else, he was the biggest star on the planet.

What was he jealous of? Prince’s 13 million album sales to his 66 million? Lmao

by Anonymousreply 22February 4, 2021 3:00 AM

She didn’t see Britney as a threat because she saw Britney as a mini-me

by Anonymousreply 23February 4, 2021 3:01 AM

George Michael also didn't like Mike. I dont think he liked Madonna much either. He loved Janet and Whitney though.

by Anonymousreply 24February 4, 2021 3:06 AM

This post is so ignorant.

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by Anonymousreply 25February 4, 2021 3:31 AM

R22 This might come as a shock to you, but just because you are successful doesn't mean you aren't immune from jealousy.

As is so often the case, the more money, fame, and success someone in the industry has, the more they want.

I think Michael was likely jealous of Prince's self confidence in his looks. Michael, as we know, had a few wee issues in that regard.

by Anonymousreply 26February 4, 2021 3:59 AM

Michael was insecure because he was raised to be an entertainer and his self worth was dependent on being praised 24/7.

He wasn't an artist or passionate musician like Prince was. Nor was he self-made like Madonna. So he lacked their confidence. Michael was a victim of a vicious stage parent and was manufactured by Motown at a young age. He had no identity outside of being a celebrity because he didn't grow up like a normal kid. Everything he did was fake and for show.

When he noticed other talented and gifted artists getting attention it made him deeply jealous and angry because he felt threatened by them. He became more and more cartoonish as he aged and regressed musically and emotionally.

There's a theory that rather than being a pedophile he wanted to take young boys and create little clones of himself and lived vicariously through them. A bit of a stretch I guess

by Anonymousreply 27February 4, 2021 4:09 AM

Michael was so insecure. He basically labeled himself the King of Pop and also engineered those ridiculous ads of him as some mythical King, wearing those ridiculous costumes. Or that ridiculous performance at the Brit Awards where he acted like a Messiah. Ridiculous.

I think MJ was jealous of Madonna because she had such a strong influence on pop culture in the '80s and early '90s. Plus, when all the allegations in the '90s were directed at MJ, Madonna continued to have great success while MJ became a joke.

by Anonymousreply 28February 4, 2021 4:55 AM

You keep posting nut job. You’re literally repeating yourself on different accounts psycho r26 r27 r28

No, MJ was not jealous or threatened at all. Madonna was by others, never MJ, who embraced others successes and celebrated them.

by Anonymousreply 29February 4, 2021 11:22 AM

Michael was scared, because he knew that once he isn't an A-List superstar anymore the press and the public would turn their back on him when his pedo charges come to light. That is why he saw everybody, even women like Madonna, as a threat to his A-list status.

It's pedo 101. Make yourself too important to fall and the surrounding people will look the other way and make sure nobody will bother you (while you keep making them money).

by Anonymousreply 30February 4, 2021 11:29 AM

You’d have thought MJ shat rainbows and unicorns the way he was portrayed by the media in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 31February 4, 2021 12:14 PM

R30 enough with the made up shit.

There was no proof he was a pedo. None.

by Anonymousreply 32February 4, 2021 12:20 PM

Mike was actually made fun of in the black community. We loved his music but we definitely were questioning his mental sanity. Eddie Murphy had a whole stand-up routine which included mocking MJ's baby voice. We all knew he had self-hate issues and side eyed his media stunts. Many of us knew he was wrong for doing what he did. And many of us aren't letting Paris get away with calling herself a "black woman".

I actually think most crazy MJ stans are white women. No black person I know would let their kids share a bed with a strange man. A family member maybe but not some stranger. That's just common sense.

Janet is more loved by the black community because she never distanced herself from being a black person and kept an R&B sound, she helped fund Spike Lee movies, she starred Tyler Perry films and would attend BET and Soul Train awards. She was only cancelled by the mainstream media but she kept a presence in black media.

by Anonymousreply 33February 4, 2021 3:44 PM

Who cares? They’re both dead.

by Anonymousreply 34February 4, 2021 3:49 PM

[quote]Eddie Murphy had a whole stand-up routine which included mocking MJ's baby voice.

"He can sing, and he's a good looking guy... but he ain't the most masculine fellow in the world."

by Anonymousreply 35February 4, 2021 3:56 PM

Prince never hated being black. Yes he lied early in his career about being biracial but that was a marketing stunt to get radio airplay on rock stations and MTV airplay. Purple Rain was just part of the persona he crafted. But he later admitted he's just a light skinned black man with two black parents. He dated light skinned girls who looked like him but had darker skinned girls too.

Prince thought Michael was a weirdo and probably also believed he was a pedo. Prince himself was also abused and neglected by his parents. He was eccentric and very difficult but he also was still mature and focused truly on finding inner peace. He silently gave to charities and mentored many young artists. He became more compassionate especially after he lost his child. Unfortunately he turned to the Jehovah's Witness religion and it made him more adverse to medical treatment and he said some homophobic things. He wasn't perfect.

Madonna is a narcissist and very rude but she is not evil like people here act. And she does have standards. I'm sure she saw Mike for what he truly was.

by Anonymousreply 36February 4, 2021 3:57 PM

R20, what is this, high school? How can anyone know this specifically what those people were thinking at the time? It's all just fan fantasy running wild.

by Anonymousreply 37February 4, 2021 4:03 PM

He's repeating what's been in the gossip and entertainment news for years, r37, things like this:

[quote]“Michael [Jackson] coming to Prince and wanting him to do ‘Bad,’ that really pissed him off. Prince was like, ‘Oh, he wants to punk me out on record. Who does he think I am, crazy?’ He couldn’t get outside himself enough to realize that it probably could have benefited both of them. Still, it would have forever been Michael’s video with Prince as just a guest. So that captured what the relationship couldn’t be. They were like Ali vs. Frazier.” — Prince confidant Alan Leeds (Vibe, 2010)

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by Anonymousreply 38February 4, 2021 4:08 PM

They never had a romance...duh.

by Anonymousreply 39February 4, 2021 4:16 PM

[quote]Madonna reserved most of her bitchiness for her female rivals like Whitney, Janet and Mariah and to a lesser extent Courtney Love. She also hates Gaga.

What are some examples of Madonna's bitchiness to others? Most of what I have seen are her reactions to other people commenting on her and her acting mystified that they dislike her.

The only thing I can recall off the top of my head is her response to her dancer calling the jacket she puts on very Janet. Her response didnt even seem directed so much at Janet as it was about the comment and the coat.

by Anonymousreply 40February 7, 2021 1:29 AM

Madonna loves Michael, she posts tributes to him on IG several times a year.

by Anonymousreply 41February 7, 2021 1:33 AM

About Michael and every other malignant narcissist in the world (yes, you too, Donald):

Narcissists are envious and competitive in ways that are hard to understand. For instance, one I knew once became incensed over an article published in a national magazine -- not for its content exactly, but because she could have written something just as good. Maybe she could have -- she hadn't, but that little lapse on her part was beside the point to her. They are constantly comparing themselves (and whatever they feel belongs to them, such as their children and furniture) to other people. Narcissists feel that, unless they are better than anyone else, they are worse than everybody in the whole world.

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by Anonymousreply 42February 7, 2021 1:44 AM

I thought the bigger enmity between the american music superstars was between Madonna and Whitney Houston?Didnt they throw subtle shade at each other in public or magazine/media interviews?

by Anonymousreply 43February 7, 2021 1:54 AM

Whitney was quoted in an interview saying "I don't want to burn out, like Madonna."

by Anonymousreply 44February 7, 2021 2:07 AM

Better to burn out a bit than to drown in a bathtub.

by Anonymousreply 45February 7, 2021 2:34 AM

People always hate you when you are on top of the world. It’s called jealousy

by Anonymousreply 46February 7, 2021 2:46 AM

What reason would they have had to LIKE each other? They went to the Academy Awards together as a publicity stunt; supposedly there was talk that they would do a music project together. That didn't happen. Later Jackson called her "a heifer." I don't know what she might have said about him. After their appearance at the Oscars the tabloids said they got together later and had kinky sex (he watched her masturbate, or some such shit). Yeah, I'm sure THAT happened. Anyway, if they disliked each other it was probably because there was rivalry between them. I guess they viewed the other as competition for the biggest music act in the world. But they were both alike in that they both were (Madonna still is) pathological egomaniacs.

by Anonymousreply 47February 7, 2021 3:06 AM

It's a shame MJ isn't around with all these Kmarts closing. Boys pants are half off!

by Anonymousreply 48February 7, 2021 3:15 AM

Madonna is not MJ's type. She's an adult woman with a sex drive, an independent personality and no tolerance for bullshit. Madonna would have told him to quit having slumber parties with little boys and slapped him for being a pervert. MJ isn't Madonna's type because she likes adult men who can fuck her brains out. Prince while short, was more of Madonna's type as he was a take-charge type, very creative and intelligent and could fuck her brains out. La Toya and Janet even wanted to fuck Prince.

by Anonymousreply 49February 20, 2021 11:38 PM

It's not true--Michael Jackson thought Madonna was "not a nice person" but Madonna really loved and respected Michael. Apparently, being a cunt is worse than being pedo according to MJ fans.

by Anonymousreply 50February 20, 2021 11:41 PM

[quote] Whitney hated Madonna and was cool with Mike and Princ

This is BS. Madonna herself said she was jealous of Whitney but she liked her (until the Bodyguard period where we see she wrote that letter mentioning Whitney but that didn't last too long) and Clive Davis has even said that Madonna was very complimentary of Whitney. Whitney also defended Madonna.

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by Anonymousreply 51February 20, 2021 11:45 PM

Madonna only hated women that ripping off her style like Courtney Love and Lady Gaga. She had rivalry with Whitney, Janet and Mariah but I think she felt Whitney and Mariah were just bland and safe singers and Janet was profiting off the Jackson name. She said "they couldn't do what I do" which was an accurate point. She didn't hate Britney, Paula, J. Lo, Gwen Stefani, Beyoncé or Nicki Minaj.

by Anonymousreply 52February 20, 2021 11:46 PM

Madonna has defended Michael Jackson many times. She has said that they reason they stopped hanging out was because he became the victim of a media witchhunt.

She was one of the celebrities who trashed that Leaving Neverland documentary as well, and said it was bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 53February 20, 2021 11:48 PM

I think Mariah, Nicki and J. Lo are the ones who hate everyone.

by Anonymousreply 54February 20, 2021 11:51 PM

Prince hated Madonna. She completely insulted him in a Rolling Stone interview. She was an asshole to everyone back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 55February 21, 2021 12:02 AM

No, he did not hate her. They were friends.

by Anonymousreply 56February 21, 2021 12:03 AM

I doubt they were anywhere near being "friends." They were, at best, acquaintances.

by Anonymousreply 57February 21, 2021 12:11 AM

Prince shaded everyone and welcomed their shade back. Prince like Madonna hated people who copied his style.

by Anonymousreply 58February 21, 2021 12:12 AM

Madonna probably mad that Prince didn't fuck her. Prince had beautiful women like Vanity, Sheila E, Apollonia, Nona Gaye and Kim Basinger. Madonna was angry she wasn't on Prince's fuck list.

by Anonymousreply 59February 21, 2021 12:17 AM

Who says a child molester and narcissist can’t be friends?

by Anonymousreply 60February 21, 2021 12:18 AM

Who cares ? Very few celebrities are actually friends. Very few.

by Anonymousreply 61February 21, 2021 12:19 AM

Yes, they were friends. You are not going to perform for someone in an intimate setting if you hate the person.

[quote] If you're skeptical that their friendship lasted this long, please checkout this blog article from 2015, which details how Prince performed an intimate concert for Madonna, with approximately half of the 60 person show being made up of Madonna's group.

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by Anonymousreply 62February 21, 2021 12:19 AM

"You all keep claiming Michael was jealous... of WHAT??? His songs were all going to number 1, or top 10, his albums were selling in millions like no one else, he was the biggest star on the planet.

What was he jealous of? Prince’s 13 million album sales to his 66 million? Lmao."

This is the stupidest post. People are often jealous of others even if they're more successful on paper/statistically. Is that really that hard to understand? No he wasn't jealous about record sales or money, but are those the only reasons people are jealous?

Think of how people are jealous in your own life - people are jealous of people who "know who they are", their sense of self; people are jealous of other people's happiness, their relationships. People are jealous of other people's control over their lives, jealous of people's lack of fear. And that's just a few things. As important, people are jealous of things they perceive another person has - just the perception that people have the things listed can make people jealous, whether it's true or not.

by Anonymousreply 63February 21, 2021 12:28 AM

Michael Jackson may have sold a lot but I don't know why anyone would be envious of him, especially now. I mean, he was a pedophile, plastic-surgery freak who died, what's there to be jealous of?

by Anonymousreply 64February 21, 2021 12:33 AM

Michael's death really saved his legacy. Imagine if Robson and Safechuck went after him while he was alive, his kids growing older and demanding a paternity test and if he possibly reoffended again. The shit show that would ensue.

by Anonymousreply 65February 21, 2021 12:44 AM

While we are on the subject, I really have never understood the big fascination with Prince. Can someone explain?

by Anonymousreply 66February 21, 2021 12:44 AM

Michael basically hated anyone over the age of 10.

by Anonymousreply 67February 21, 2021 12:46 AM

R66

Wrote his own songs, played multiple instruments, amazing vocal range, could dance, influenced many other artists, produced and written for many artists, released albums every year and has enough music in his vault for 20+ more albums. Prince's legal battle with Warner Bros. and changing his name to a symbol was pretty badass. So the fascination was he was an all-around artist with multiple talents.

by Anonymousreply 68February 21, 2021 12:47 AM

Prince is extremeley talented, probablly the most talented artist of the rock era. Plays something like 20+ intstruments (most at least very well, some great) and he's one of the most prolific songwriters.

by Anonymousreply 69February 21, 2021 12:47 AM

[quote] Michael also hated Prince and vice versa. He was a nasty, jealous POS.

Yes. Further evidence is the way Michael backstabbed Paul McCartney ending their brief association. Which was just as well, their music together was awful.

by Anonymousreply 70February 21, 2021 1:02 AM

For all the hate Madonna gets. She comes across as someone with a strong sense of honor. She'll diss someone but I don't think she would destroy someone's career. She's too focused on herself to let others live in her head rent-free. Michael tried to sabotage Jermaine and Jermaine was a real threat as he was handsome and could sing. He probably didn't take Janet seriously since her first two albums were fails but when Control and Rhythm Nation became hits, Mike hopped on the New Jack Swing/Quiet Storm sound with Dangerous and HIStory.

by Anonymousreply 71February 21, 2021 1:09 AM

Michael Jackson had a lot of help in his peak years. He would've been far less successful without Quincy Jones, who basically engineered Jackson's solo career. Of course MJ had talent, but he wasn't an organic talent like Prince and Madonna and he couldn't reinvent himself or his sound. He was basically rudderless without a strong team behind him, something Prince and Madonna weren't because they were always in charge of their image and their careers.

by Anonymousreply 72February 21, 2021 1:17 AM

[quote]They never had a romance...duh.

Obviously. Michael Jackson was never known to have been intimate with a woman.

by Anonymousreply 73February 21, 2021 1:25 AM

Quincy Jones really was the one to make Michael Jackson an icon. Q produced Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. When MJ ditched Q to take more creative control of his music, it all went downhill. Look at the bloated mess that was Dangerous and HIStory. Quincy would never...

For all the flack Janet may get for nepotism, she had a way better ear for music than Michael and reinvented herself in each album. Jam & Lewis were dynamic and worked best when they have artists who know what they want.

by Anonymousreply 74February 21, 2021 1:31 AM

[quote]Michael Jackson was never known to have been intimate with a woman.

BULLSHIT!

He fucked me several times.

Of course it always had to be in my ass. His choice, not mine.

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by Anonymousreply 75February 21, 2021 1:32 AM

Well, this just confirms Madonna is a pedophile enabler.

by Anonymousreply 76February 21, 2021 1:46 AM

In a biography I read on MJ it talked about a time when Madonna said something to MJ about changing his look and ditching that stupid glove. He got fighting mad after she left and said "who that heifer think she is?".

by Anonymousreply 77February 21, 2021 1:50 AM

I’m sure Madonna is jealous of real singers and people with actual talent, since her whole career is based on lip syncing.

by Anonymousreply 78February 21, 2021 1:51 AM

[quote] In a biography I read on MJ it talked about a time when Madonna said something to MJ about changing his look and ditching that stupid glove. He got fighting mad after she left and said "who that heifer think she is?".

She was right--it's a stupid look.

by Anonymousreply 79February 21, 2021 1:53 AM

I respect that Madonna wasn't intimidated by Michael and neither was Prince. George Michael also called out MJ's behavior.

by Anonymousreply 80February 21, 2021 1:53 AM

Get ready for some county fair dance moves

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by Anonymousreply 81February 21, 2021 1:58 AM

Jackson hated everyone over 13 except his immediate family (less Daddy).

by Anonymousreply 82February 21, 2021 2:06 AM

[quote{For all the hate Madonna gets. She comes across as someone with a strong sense of honor. She'll diss someone but I don't think she would destroy someone's career.

Well she tried. Mark Walberg said that he he was disappointed when he met her—he found the way she looked at the time kind of gross—and she went after him. He finally came out and said publicly that she was trying to get him blackballed and destroy his career. I think that worked in getting her to back off. This was during the time she had no eye brows and was wearing a gold tooth. Not too long after she found Kabbalah.

by Anonymousreply 83February 21, 2021 9:38 AM

All Madonna had to do is bring up Marky's history of racism and petty theft to curtail his career.

by Anonymousreply 84February 21, 2021 10:53 AM

[quote] since her whole career is based on lip syncing.

Madonna almost always sings without a vocal backing track, even when she sounds horrible. She isn't Britney Spears.

by Anonymousreply 85February 21, 2021 5:31 PM

Madonna, Janet and Paula all sang on their albums despite their awful thin voices. There was no autotune back then and you had to sing on key to get recorded on vinyl. There's rumors that Paula had a ghost singer but I don't buy it because she still sounds bad.

Madonna does lip sync sometimes like at award shows and the Super Bowl but likely because of the networks requesting that than her own choice.

by Anonymousreply 86February 21, 2021 5:36 PM

Some artists lip sync to a "live" track which they recorded for the tour.

by Anonymousreply 87February 21, 2021 5:50 PM

Britney and J. Lo use the blended vocal technique in which a backup singer will overpower them in the chorus to make them sound better. Also autotune to make their singing on the verses sound on pitch and also to add a distinctive sound. It's used for aesthetic or stylistic choice as well. Rihanna, Bieber, Katy, Gaga and Timberlake have done this too. That's why they all have to lip-sync. It's not because they dance or that they can sing (Gaga, Bieber and Timberlake can sing well). But it's because there is no possible way for them to sound like they do on the recorded version. The songs are just too heavily processed to be sung live.

by Anonymousreply 88February 21, 2021 7:04 PM

Anybody else remember when Madonna went on the Arsenio Hall show and told the world right in front of him that Arsenio and Eddie Murphy were Fuck buds? She was a trrrrrrip back in the day! It's got to be on YT. Hahaha

by Anonymousreply 89February 21, 2021 8:49 PM
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