Who Is Generation Jones? A Micro-Generation Between Boomers, Xers

Materialistic and status-obsessed.

[Quote] Materialistic and status-obsessed.

Just like every generation before and AFTER it.

This again OP? There is no Generation Jones. It's one guys theory and it's not recognized by most mainstream historians. Wiki is not written by historians.

For Example: Obama was born in 1961. That makes him Gen-X, not Jones, not Boomer. Even though the New York Times pushing to rewrite that history.

Yes, I know the internet is flooded with Gen-x starting at 1965 but that just an inaccurate descriptor created by an insurance company that took hold. The guy who first coined the term Gen-X says 1961. That blows the idea of Jones out of the water. The idea that a generation is just "keeping up with the Jones" is ridiculous.

The previous Xennials, micro generation (late 70's - early 80's) between GenX & Millennials.

Strictly speaking, Boomers were born between 1946 and 1964. So President Obama is a Boomer.

What is Michelle?

Oh, stop making new generations. It was fine the way it was.

DL is much too obsessed with generations.

And "class."

Born in 1963 and I do not relate to anything Boomer rekated. I didn't get drafted for the Vietnam war and don't know anyone my age that has. People my age never ever were drafted for anything. Furthermore, I don't relate to 60s hippie generation. No one I grew up with was a hippie!

Re "Generation Jones" --- that's my family you're talking about - 11th generation in U.S. right here.

"I've got a Jones...runnin' through my bones..."

Does this micro-generation have micro-meat?

I was born in 1961, and have never been able to identify with the Boomers. I was still a kid during the 60s, and Woodstock was something my parents censored from me.

A proportion of my teachers were hippies or hippy adjacent. Even if I was a kid, the 60s and Vietnam had a big impact on me. I don't feel the need for a special generation for me between boomers and x-ers. I don't identify with one generation I pick and choose what I like and dislike from each generation.

r9 and "ethnicity"

[quote] Even if I was a kid, the 60s and Vietnam had a big impact on me.

I was born in the early 60s, and though I was aware of the Vietnam War because it was on the news, it had no impact on me since I was only a child. The only thing I remember from the 60s is Dark Shadows and other TV shows.

Well, you sound like an isolated oblivious child R16.

I went to Jr HS and HS in the 70s and our teachers spoke and taught about Vietnam, about civil rights, about black power, about colonialism, and several were guys who became teachers because it was a way to avoid the draft! And some were veterans.

And Pop culture was all about the 60s and 70s. The 60s weighed huge on the 70s. My baby sitters were sometimes hippies or ex hippies. As a kid we were all into the rock of the 60s as much as the pop of the 70s.

My mom and dad fought about her going to Woodstock.

I knew all the pop culture of the 60s as a kid. I lived in Metropolitan NY area and was curious. My parents talked a lot of politics.

In the 80s I turned into a materialist yuppie for several years but always had the bohemian spirit behind it.

[quote] I went to Jr HS and HS in the 70s and our teachers spoke and taught about Vietnam, about civil rights, about black power, about colonialism, and several were guys who became teachers because it was a way to avoid the draft! And some were veterans.

Then you went to some kind of radical freak school. I went to middle school and high school in the 70s also, and the teachers taught math, English, science, social studies and history. The only thing close to political was an anti-communism course. The schools I attended were integrated (court ordered with bussing), so we didn’t need to be taught civil rights, we were actually living it.

[quote] And Pop culture was all about the 60s and 70s. The 60s weighed huge on the 70s. My baby sitters were sometimes hippies or ex hippies. As a kid we were all into the rock of the 60s as much as the pop of the 70s.

That’s baloney. As kids in the 70s, the 60s and the 50s were regarded as ancient history. The 50s of course had a nostalgia burst with Happy Days and Grease that kids embraced, but the 60s were put behind us. We had long hair and marijuana, but not much else from the 60s.

Made up bullshit.

Lotsa butthurt Jonesers in this thread!

It's posted r3 because it bothers you soooooooo fucking much. Get over it, cunt. It's real, bitch!

This really isn't that hard - STATISTICALLY the Baby Boom lasted from 1946 - 1964; CULTURALLY those of us born in the early 60's are GenX not Boomer.

Statistically maybe but not culturally. Not psychologically.

I have never considered anyone born in the late 50s to mid 60s a real boomer. It's one thing to be taught about cultural, political and social events and upheavals, it's an entirely different matter to live through and experience them in a way that actually affected your life.

Statistically, it's a bunch of horseshit because the birth rate dropped a lot after 1960.

As a child of 63 I've never identified as a Boomer....I grew up in the 70s and early 80s not the 50s and I was an infant/toddler for most of the 60s.

Trying to label any societal group over that huge span of time (46 to 64) is ridiculous. Early Boomers' lives were drastically different from the so called last Boomers of 60-64.

If a big deal is going to be made over the generations, then they should be broken up into groupings that actually make sense.

Exactly, r25.

Okay, Boomer.

^ Ok, unemployed.

Most people who say "Okay, Boomer" don't even know what a boomer is and why we are supposed to hate them.

R28 is triggered.

r30 is still unemployed.

very insecure

I'm a Xennial (1978), and I honestly do feel like we're our own thing. I recognize a lot of the Gen X cultural touchstones, but I don't know if they mean quite the same thing for me. I do relate to the Millennial culture, but my outlook is much more like Gen X.

I have much older siblings who are definitely Boomers, but I’ve never considered myself part of their generation. Those of us too young to attend Woodstock, get drafted or be part of the counter culture are outsiders to the whole Boomer thing. I’ve been calling people born from the late 50s to mid 60s the Dazed and Confused Generation, but I’ll take Jones if that sticks.

I wonder how the WWII veterans must have felt when they saw how horrible their kids turned out to be in the 1960s. How did patriotic, clean-cut, law-abiding people begat such loathsome freaks as the hippie generation.

DLers are most definitely obsessed with generations.

It seems a good (and obvious) rule of thumb is that for people on the bubble, your birth order likely determines which generation you connect with.

So someone born in 1963 who had older siblings/cousins and grew up with hippies and Vietnam being part of the family dynamic is probably more in tune with Boomers, while someone born that year who was the oldest child and had Gen X siblings and cousins would be more likely to identify with Gen X.

Also fairly safe to say that the parents of the 1963 youngest child were older, lived through the Depression and dad was a WW2 vet, while parents of the 1963 oldest child were much younger and were likely teenagers in the 1950s, which would thus create very different environments at home.

No but nice try r36.

I think R36 is right. The early Boomers were mostly the children of the Greatest Generation.

As the 50s went on, more and more of the Silent Generation (29 to 45) took over as parents so by the time you get to the late 50s/early 60s, most of our parents were those Depression era generation and the early WWII generation. My parents were born in 36 and 38 and most of my peers parents were born in the 30s or very early 40s.

There's a world of difference growing up with parents who had to struggle through the Depression years then the war years as adults versus having parents who were just BORN in those years and were kids through that time frame.

Just as other posters born in the early 60’s have stated, I never related to Boomers. I have always called those born between 1959 and 1964 “in betweener” because we have some characteristics of Boomers and Gen X.

[quote] I have always called those born between 1959 and 1964 “in betweener” because we have some characteristics of Boomers and Gen X.

Can you provide a few examples of characteristics we share with Boomers?

You’re older than me R33 and I refer to myself as Generation X. “Xennial” are for those who want to appear younger than they actually are.

What r40 said.

R3 - I believe there is something to this. I was born in 1962 and really have nothing in common with Boomers whose parents were of The Greatest generation and fought WWII. My parents were very late depression era babies. There definitely is about a four notch between Baby Boomers and Generation X of people who do fit into either category based on the way they were raised and major events they experienced which affected their lives. I do not consider myself a baby boomer and certainly do consider myself Generation X.

Apparently, generation is a state of mind.

lol, r44!

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[quote] For Example: Obama was born in 1961. That makes him Gen-X, not Jones, not Boomer.

But according to the current (broken) yardstick for boomers, he’s a boomer.

The end date of 1965 (iirc) for boomers is beyond ridiculous. That’s why people are flogging this “mini-generation.” Obama and I (I was born in 1963) are gen x. We were both latchkey kids. I was a teen when MTV started up. I was a teen when the PC revolution started. Neither one of us were born as a result of GIs coming home from the war and making babies. We were both too young to be teens during the late 60s.

Rather than create some bogus mini gen, more institutions need to accept that the boom was over by 60 and gen x started in 61. (Some already do.)

r47 wins!

R36 is spot on.

Aa as side note, for some odd reason his post is blocked out. (I can only see it because others have cited his post). I have no one on ignore.

People born between 1962 and 1965 cannot be Boomers. I just do not see how no matter what expert says what.

[quote]Sign in window of coffee house, rural northern Virginia:

Hippies use side door