When will the pandemic be over? And be specific.
Name a specific date when we can confidently walk around without a mask, fill theaters and stadiums, and live our lives in the same manner we did in January of 2020. There'll be prizes for whoever comes closest without going over (Price Is Right rules.) A
I'm going with April 2nd, 2023.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Tuesday at 11:29 PM|
It’ll probably never be over for some poorer countries. But if we are talking end to worldwide lockdowns, flight bans, etc I would say end of calendar 2023. And people will continue wearing masks in some form in public.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||02/01/2021|
It's already over. Biden got elected.
As for the scam artists still pushing pandemic hysteria... they'll give up when you stop listening to them. STOP LISTENING TO THEM.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||02/01/2021|
EOY 2023. Until then, lost cause.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||02/01/2021|
Probably never. The ChiComs will continue releasing new variants until the Western economies are in shambles.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||02/01/2021|
I'm going to go with never. New stronger variants will come along. Some people have said this is just a preliminary to far worse strains that will have higher death rates. In other words this is a warning period whereby we need to up our game on handling pandemics and thank god the adults are back in charge.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||02/01/2021|
R8 - you are absolutely right but also, people will tire of the restrictions and become more and more relaxed. It's human nature and not everyone is aware enough or even mature enough to understand contagion and containment and it's importance. I see it here all day in Eastern Europe and also those going to ski resorts now in Switzerland. The young are just not able to completely adhere even the ones that mask up most of the time and have high levels of education.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||02/01/2021|
June 25, 2023 at exactly 11:43am.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||02/01/2021|
A pandemic (from Greek πᾶν, pan, "all" and δῆμος, demos, "people" the 'crowd') is an epidemic of an infectious disease that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of people.
We've no evidence yet that the vaccine stops transmission. Poor countries are unlikely to get fully vaccinated. So I say never.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||02/01/2021|
March 11, 2022 at 4:16pm.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/01/2021|
Globally 2025 I hope so. I am more scares of mutations in the coming years
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/01/2021|
Actually R12 that’s not the truth.
“ Early evidence points toward vaccines reducing transmission of Covid-19, but by exactly how much remains unclear”
It’s a waiting game until concrete evidence comes out as to the degree to which the vaccines tackle transmission but it will. I know it’s fun to do the whole “we’re all gonna dieeeeee” thing but it’s not gonna happen.
The virus will be around forever but the pandemic caused by it will not. I say later this year with optimism for the situation to vastly improve.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/01/2021|
In the US? November 2021. Regardless of the risks, most Americans will go back to their normal life. Whether that kills or not. The world? December 2023.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/01/2021|
R15 I do take your point, but with vaccine uptake, vaccine efficacy with new variants and vaccine supply being issues, I really don't see us being able to get back to normal anytime soon.
I think our public health facilities and death rate will require social distancing and stay home orders for some time. International travel will be limited and more expensive. Economic downturn will have an effect on how we fund public vaccination and contain transmission. Consumer and industrial confidence will be knocked for many years.
We're all gonna die.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/01/2021|
The pandemic will end eventually once adequate numbers of people have been inoculated. SARS-CoV-2 and its variants will be endemic throughout the world forever, just like other coronaviruses.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||02/01/2021|
R18 as you say maybe it is somewhere in the middle, neither normal but also not lockdown.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/01/2021|
I also think maybe never the way I see so many are taking it as party. We think of our own world but in many parts of the world it's a joke of a lockdown. The people in our Dubai office consistently post pictures of huge gatherings and parties with dozens of people. Every night, my neighbors have tons of guests over. The cute Italian pilot I was gonna hook up with pre-pandmeic is now unemployed and he and his friends party like the 1990's each and every day.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/01/2021|
I don't see it ending. I see a future of endless lockdowns being ignored, endless races to develop vaccines for countless variants, and then climate change starts forcing millions and millions of people to flee to other countries, and...that's enough right there.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/01/2021|
I said this in another thread, but I intuit it will take the US until at least the beginning of 2023 to get a handle on Covid where most everyone can can de-mask and re-engage in relative safety.
Some countries now, like New Zealand/Oz , can offer their citizens low relative risk for Covid and relative safety. However, they remain vigilant and most of the country comes together to address spot outbreaks.
Other parts of the (not-so?) civilized world such as the US, UK, Europe and others don’t offer this luxury.
So for worldwide travel with folks going many places and feeling comfortable without masking and gathering in groups, I sense anywhere from the end of 2023 to 2025.
I’ll be optimistic and say December 15, 2023.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/01/2021|
R24 - yes, the pandemic maybe, but by then people will relax. The knowledge that they had a vax will make them less cautious and no way will young people be like the eldergays on this forum who say they don't have an issue masking forever. Think about it, we were pretty much the same at say 18 or 19.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Monday at 1:47 PM|
R19 the antibodies from the vaccine last up to 3 months.
My friend’s brother is a Marine. His entire squad was vaccinated in the early fall. They ALL caught CV19 over Thanksgiving.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Monday at 1:50 PM|
[Quote]His entire squad was vaccinated in the early fall.
You clearly think people are as dumb as you are, this is complete bullshit r27.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Monday at 1:54 PM|
R28, it happened. Believe what you need to.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||Last Monday at 2:02 PM|
Sure Jan r29. Vaccines are highly regulated in America, until Pfizer and Moderna were given emergency use authorization in December the only people who were given either vaccine were the subjects who were enrolled in their clinical trial.
Some of us actually work in the industry dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Monday at 2:06 PM|
Since I love live music, full capacity indoor live music really is sort of my standard for "back to normal."
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Monday at 2:18 PM|
Fall of 2021. Maybe spring of 2022.
For those of you saying never ... are we still dealing with the pandemic of 1918? No.
I do bet we will be getting vaccines for Covid on a yearly basis for many years to come (just like the flu), but that is not the same as being in the middle of a pandemic.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Monday at 2:32 PM|
I realize that some of you like to pretend you're being so hard-headed and confronting the facts straight on, etc. etc., but the public health people would say you're being ridiculous. 2023? Please.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Monday at 2:35 PM|
R33, try citing a reputable source.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Monday at 2:45 PM|
If we can't trust Harvard R34, then post your own source that says it will last until the end of time.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Monday at 3:09 PM|
By mid to late summer people will be traveling, restaurants and bars will be operating at normal capacity. Sure covid is not going to be completely gone and you will still see masks, but in many ways things will be open as normal.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Monday at 4:39 PM|
[quote] "I'm going with April 2nd, 2023."
And at what time, OP?
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Monday at 4:45 PM|
“ from 21 June, all limits on socialising should be lifted and the final entertainment sectors should be able to reopen.”
Whether this is realistic for that date or not, it won’t be much further past that time. ‘Tis the beginning of the end for lockdown.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Monday at 5:20 PM|
Mass Smallpox vaccination began in 1958 and ended in 1977 (though most Western Countries began decades. earlier).
So about 2039/40. When I'll have been dead of something else for a while.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Monday at 5:34 PM|
I hope by the time all the annoying fuckers come back I can move to the woods.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Monday at 6:35 PM|
[quote][R33], try citing a reputable source.
You don't think Ashish Jha, the dean of the School of Public Health at Brown, previously at the Harvard School of Public Health, is a reputable source? He's the one they cite in the Atlantic article (along with a few other impressive people in public health).
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Monday at 6:39 PM|
World Wide - December 1, 2024
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Monday at 6:48 PM|
October 24, 2021 @ 1:17:25 EST
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Monday at 6:52 PM|
One of the issues you need to take into account is that the US is getting Pfizer and Moderna, which are the two most efficacious vaccines, and also the easiest to tweak to develop boosters for new variants.
But a lot of the world isn't getting those. The UK, for example, is only getting Oxford Astra Zenica, a totally different technology which is 70% effective against most strains and only 10% effective against the South African one. It gives good protection against serious disease and death, but if 30%/90% of people can contract the disease, a good chunk of them are going to be able to transmit it as well. SA actually discarded their Astra Zenica supplies because it was useless there.
This means international borders are going to be a big threat for a long time unless you can reach herd immunity for all variants.
Herd immunity is complicated by the fact that, as long as the disease continues to rage in poorer countries, it will continue to mutate. Medical advice I've heard is that rich countries should be showering vaccines on poor ones to try to prevent this from happening. Even if your vaccine is a type that makes it relatively easy to produce a booster to deal with a new variant, it would still take months to develop and test one.
PS The good news is that 170 million people have now been vaccinated worldwide and there have been no reports of serious reactions or reactions lasting more than a couple of days, except in the small group of people already known to be prone to anaphylaxis. This is on the authority of Australian doctors, who have so far got things pretty right.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Monday at 8:16 PM|
Christmas! It will happen on Christmas!
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Monday at 8:29 PM|
Summer 2021 will be happening big time. Everyone is going to be out. Europe got to have a pretty decent summer last year.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Monday at 8:50 PM|
R47 - they will absolutely open Europe this summer at least for travel because the industry is suffering and numbers are decreasing in France and Spain.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Monday at 9:14 PM|
I predict most families will celebrate Thanksgiving together. Christmas parties and gatherings will resume as normal. Too many people are out of work. This can't go on.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Monday at 9:18 PM|
[quote] This can't go on.
Yes it can and will.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Monday at 9:27 PM|
The pandemic will never be over.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Monday at 9:43 PM|
September 6th, 2027.
Large parts of the Third World aren't being vaccinated and with the virus constantly mutating, there will be fresh waves everywhere unless we stop all migration of people for the next decade. No point in vaccinating citizens and then importing a fresh mutation of the virus by allowing migrants illegally arriving via some boat in the Mediterranean.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Monday at 9:45 PM|
Pandemic over or life returning to near normal?
I don't think it's the same date. I have a feeling people are going to go wild this summer and it will all look normal, but the pandemic will hardly be over.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Tuesday at 6:03 AM|
never, just like the flu it will persist
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Tuesday at 6:06 AM|
Well... AIDS isn't over. I don't think this pandemic will end either. It will become more manageable like everyone is saying, but "over?" That's a high bar.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Tuesday at 6:06 AM|
AIDS remains the poster-child for a horror pandemic. Long incubation period during which it could be unwittingly spread, impossible to vaccinate against with the technology available, and (for many years) 100% fatal with a long, slow death. It doesn't get any worse than that, unless it's all the same things but airborne. Covid is awful, but AIDS was absolutely terrifying.
They isolated the virus for Covid within a couple of months, but AIDS was so novel it was ages (someone here will remember how long) before they could even figure out how it worked at the micro level.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Tuesday at 11:29 PM|