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How is Jeff Palmer still alive?

He's been HIV+ since the late 90's and stopped taking medication to treat it a very long time ago.

by Anonymousreply 8005/04/2021

I know one who has been HIV+ since the late 80s and he is still alive and several friends, relatives and co workers younger than him have died from heart attacks, pancreatic cancer and automobile accidents. HIV is not he absolute death sentence it was originally thought to be and my friend was the first person I knew who had it and he's fine. I do know 2 other people who died from it rather quickly in the early 90s.

by Anonymousreply 101/31/2021

I really think this would somehow make the 'news' (i.e. be known via the internet) if Jeff Palmer passed away.

by Anonymousreply 201/31/2021

Who?

by Anonymousreply 302/01/2021

The only people I know who have been HIV+ for 25 years or more have been on meds that entire time. A lot of them look fine, never been in the hospital and test undetectable. The one thing they had in common is that they started drug therapy long before they got sick.

A lot of guys back then waited until they hit bottom to start any kind of real therapy, All the ones I knew who distrusted western medicine are dead now. They tried everything from Chinese herbs, to magic mushrooms, to enemas with Bitter Melon. They tried praying, alternative religion and spiritual enlightenment. The only one they would not try was modern medicine. Irronicly that was the only thing at the end of the day that could have saved their lives.

There are people who have a special gene mutation that renders the virus ineffective, but it's really rare like 1 in a million. They can test for that now.

by Anonymousreply 402/01/2021

Be an adult. use a condom. Not Prep.

by Anonymousreply 502/01/2021

R1 Sounds like you think the disease just kind of petered out on its own or it’s luck or the draw.

by Anonymousreply 602/01/2021

R6 No. It should be the opposite. He's been unmedicated for over 20 years and it doesn't seemed to have progressed for the worst.

by Anonymousreply 702/01/2021

^ Recent pics please.

by Anonymousreply 802/01/2021

He says he has been unmedicated but who knows for real?

by Anonymousreply 902/01/2021

Lots of closeted actors at the time would not admit they were on meds. Wouldn't surprise me if even now, even being out, they still cling to the lie.

by Anonymousreply 1002/01/2021

Who?

by Anonymousreply 1102/01/2021

R11 et R3

Jeff Palmer is another porn actor from a few decades ago that denizens of DL from a certain demographic have a fascination with. . His name frequently is mentioned in various "WEHT "X" porn" threads.

by Anonymousreply 1202/01/2021

Wasn't one of the characters from the film "Pride" based on one of the first few people in the UK to be diagnosed as HIV positive? The end credits revealed that he is still alive and well.

by Anonymousreply 1302/01/2021

Maybe, somehow, HIV only attacked his brain. God knows the only things I ever heard about him were batshit crazy.

by Anonymousreply 1402/01/2021

he obviously went on med, eventually. he was looking wasted and would have been dead more than a decade ago. His public announcements about not taking trips thereby must be 15 year or longer ago. I just assumed eventually he started taking them and, no longer a "cowboy" anti-science person, just faded into anonymity.

by Anonymousreply 1502/01/2021

Is he still a Jesus freak?

by Anonymousreply 1602/01/2021

How old would he be now?

by Anonymousreply 1702/01/2021

To get up to date:

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by Anonymousreply 1802/01/2021

The worst part about all of this is that I reminded that I did and once again do want him inside me deeply.

by Anonymousreply 1902/01/2021

R17

If have numbers correct Jeff Palmer would be 45 years old this year.

R16

Wouldn't be surprised if Jeff Palmer found religion in his "hour of need". His parents were (or are if still living) evangelical Christians, and IIRC his porn was one way of rebelling against that upbringing.

by Anonymousreply 2002/01/2021

There is and has been since AIDS/HIV crisis hit a small subset of men who though infected with the virus never develop any associated diseases. They remain rather healthy and asymptomatic IIRC.

by Anonymousreply 2102/01/2021

Like who R21? List Please

Otherwise we should assume they are dead by now.

by Anonymousreply 2202/01/2021

R22

I don't know them personally, only what have read in media.

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by Anonymousreply 2302/01/2021

Jeff is actually a sweet man.

Throwing rocks at him is just old queens being rotten.

by Anonymousreply 2402/01/2021

What evidence is there that he is even still alive? Doesn't seem he's been seen or heard from in several years.

by Anonymousreply 2502/01/2021

What evidence does DL ever have in response to "WEHT" queries about porn actors who've long dropped out of sight. Other than what can be found in public information (including death notices) have to assume a person is still living, or things remain a mystery.

We know Jeff Palmer's real name (David Zuloaga) and to date no one has produced a death notice, certificate or anything else proving he's dead.

If this is indeed same Jeff Palmer his Twitter account is active....

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by Anonymousreply 2602/01/2021

R23, those cases are rare.

R4 got it right. But the “western medicines” for treatment weren’t as “western” as they are today. Meaning today you can take one pill and be fine, back then you took handfuls with lots of symptoms.

by Anonymousreply 2702/01/2021

Thanks R20.

by Anonymousreply 2802/01/2021

[quote] Be an adult. use a condom. Not Prep.

Oh, look, another moron.

by Anonymousreply 2902/01/2021

[quote] HIV is not he absolute death sentence it was originally thought to be and my friend was the first person I knew who had it and he's fine. I do know 2 other people who died from it rather quickly in the early 90s.

OMG...please don't say that.

It was not *thought to be" deadly, it WAS deadly. HIV is absolutely a death sentence for 99% of the infected if untreated. Thousands died before anyone lifted a finger to create a treatment for it. I was only 15 when young, beautiful, healthy young men began dropping like flies. Like wasting away and dying in a matter of weeks. There are generations of mentors, activists, artists, advocates, role models and leaders missing from the Gay male community because they loved other men and it was fatal. Why do you think we're so f*cked up now?

by Anonymousreply 3002/01/2021

I remember when he used to spread bullshit about how he had some genetic make up that made him immune to it

by Anonymousreply 3102/01/2021

POZ people are gross

by Anonymousreply 3203/21/2021

I remember seeing this vid around back in the day then someone mentioned it was Palmer and I was like - FUCK - religion really fucked him up. He acts like a literal retard. Aren't their laws against fucking the mentally deficient? Jeesass.

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by Anonymousreply 3303/21/2021

Edmund White the writer, teacher and gay health advocate is a proven "Long-term Non Progressor" who didn't need treatment for 3 decades. May have started as an old man, in recent years when the drugs have become very very good with no heavy side effects. I know a non-famous person in the same boat. His immune system was never damaged but he started around 2010 when there were many new molecules introduced.

by Anonymousreply 3403/21/2021

So, does anyone know if Palmer is still alive?

Any psychiatric hospital admissions for a David Zuloaga?

Any known whereabouts?

by Anonymousreply 3503/21/2021

[quote]Jeff is actually a sweet man. Throwing rocks at him is just old queens being rotten. —formerBHmanny

Yeah, it's not like he used undeserved fame from a terrible 1980s sitcom to deliberately infect people with HIV by offering to bareback long after he had seroconverted.

by Anonymousreply 3603/21/2021

r5 After all this time, you've learned nothing. As a person who never, ever had a "slip up" with condom usage in my entire sexual history, I'm literally the only gay person I know who that is true about. On prep now.

by Anonymousreply 3703/21/2021

There is a very small number of the population who are immune it HIV - they get it but it never progresses.

by Anonymousreply 3803/21/2021

The ones who are infected but develop AIDS are called Elite Controllers and have a low to undetectable CD4 count without meds. I wish I could be so lucky.

by Anonymousreply 3903/21/2021

Wait 80's sitcom what?

by Anonymousreply 4003/21/2021

R39 please read your ridiculous post and try again.

by Anonymousreply 4103/21/2021

Who dat?

by Anonymousreply 4203/21/2021

He's moronically dumb. Two decades a meth head. Took more loads than grandma's Maytag. Spread HIV to many others. Then he turned AIDS denier and religious zealot. Had his own blog about it - telling his fans to refuse life saving treatments and accept jesus. Did I mention he started out as a moron? Jeff Palmer is a waste of human energy and life. Who cares if he's dead or alive?

by Anonymousreply 4303/21/2021

Is he American? Why is he uncut? Yuck.

by Anonymousreply 4403/21/2021

[quote]Is he American?

Born and raised in Argentina. Left at 19.

by Anonymousreply 4503/21/2021

Sorry, I had my J. Palmer's mixed up.

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by Anonymousreply 4603/21/2021

Datalounge. Where unfucked very eldergays stay frozen in time, where news of the 90s seems like yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 4703/21/2021

So have we located Jeff yet?

Where was he last known to frequent?

by Anonymousreply 4803/21/2021

R41 I thought the same 😂

by Anonymousreply 4903/21/2021

My one of my best friend is a long term non-progressor. He’s been HIV+ since about 1988 or even earlier he’s not sure and until recently had never taken any medication for it. But at 58, he’s started HIV treatment, not because he needed it, but because his doctor said at his age who knows how his immune system will change. And admittedly, if anyone sneezes near him he’ll catch a cold. So he’s in bed with a mild cold occasionally. But has never had any HIV related illnesses.

Not that this matters but he’s absolutely gorgeous even at his age and still has a great body. He jokes that the only exercise he does is picking up a fork and lifting it to his mouth. Also he’s is a regular at the Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, etc, walking his celebrity clients down the red carpet (he works in high end PR)

by Anonymousreply 5003/21/2021

R5 [Be an adult. use a condom. Not Prep. — elder gay/]

Hey gramps, science has proven time and time again that PreP is more effective that commons. So stop with the misinformation and join the 21st century.

by Anonymousreply 5103/21/2021

^^than condoms^^ hate autocorrect

by Anonymousreply 5203/21/2021

A small proportion of humans show partial or apparently complete inborn resistance to HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. The main mechanism is a mutation of the gene encoding CCR5, which acts as a co-receptor for HIV. It is estimated that the proportion of people with some form of resistance to HIV is under 10%.

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by Anonymousreply 5303/21/2021

But where's Jeff?

by Anonymousreply 5403/23/2021

You're soaking in him R54. Jeff is nothing but green ooze and bubbles. A celebration of his life!

by Anonymousreply 5503/23/2021

R55 Has he gone to a better place?

by Anonymousreply 5603/24/2021

.....

by Anonymousreply 5703/24/2021

So basically, were no further forward in knowing if Jeff is:

Alive

Dead

Living on the street?

by Anonymousreply 5803/30/2021

I'd really like to know if he's still alive too R58.

Anybody?

by Anonymousreply 5903/30/2021

I think we're gonna have to hand the file over to the DL Cold Case Revie Team.

by Anonymousreply 6003/30/2021

Review damn it!

by Anonymousreply 6103/30/2021

Who's the top guy banging Jeff Palmer in this clip? I have no doubt he prolly caught the aids.

by Anonymousreply 6204/20/2021

I'll always remember his line reading of "I'm a focking slut!"

by Anonymousreply 6304/20/2021

Wait, he was HIV+ when he was doing porn for Falcon?

by Anonymousreply 6404/20/2021

R62, why would the top have gotten infected from fucking Palmer?

by Anonymousreply 6504/20/2021

I’ve never found him an interesting performer. He always came across rather hyper

by Anonymousreply 6604/20/2021

He modeled his performances on the silent movie stars. "Coke addled" was intentional!

by Anonymousreply 6704/20/2021

R65 That porn top is obviously dead from the aids. Most of the bareback porn tops from the 80s and 90s are dead from aids.

by Anonymousreply 6804/20/2021

Excuse ME?!

by Anonymousreply 6904/20/2021

That Stryker turd doesn't count as a porn performer. 95% of the time they showed him it wasn't even his dick or body. He has said that is why he never caught the aids because he wasn't doing the fucking.

by Anonymousreply 7004/20/2021

Amazing how guys like Kevin Williams and Stryker are still around.

by Anonymousreply 7104/20/2021

R62 that is not Jeff Palmer. The top is Nick Fabrini and he's schtupping Dany Brown.

by Anonymousreply 7204/20/2021

He's fine! He sends his love!

And he's sorry what happened to you, OP. But even today there are oopsies.

by Anonymousreply 7304/20/2021

I remember discovering his videos on SX video! I think I actually went to the store to rent them.

by Anonymousreply 7404/20/2021
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by Anonymousreply 7505/04/2021

^^ very sorry - wrong thread.

by Anonymousreply 7605/04/2021

he dead

by Anonymousreply 7705/04/2021

R63 I remember that scene. I used to turn the sound off.

by Anonymousreply 7805/04/2021

I used to think he was sooooo hot. Butch voiced bottom boy.

by Anonymousreply 7905/04/2021

[Quote] I remember that scene. I used to turn the sound off.

I think I only ever watched the trailer. That porn studio was the pits.

by Anonymousreply 8005/04/2021
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