Mattress Recommendation?

Anyone have a Dreamcloud or Ghostbed?

Then get a spring mattress. Or get a very expensive hi-tech futon with latex core and cotton and cocofibre.

The futon is out because I have a bed that would be too deep to accommodate. I don't know if I should just go to a Mattress place around me, I don't want some pushy salesman talking me into something and then I get home and it is terrible.

I only know this because I bought it today: Sealy PosturePedic Plus Opportune II Plush Mattress. It’s around $979 with free delivery and installation. I have no idea if it’s good but I don’t have time to shop in a mask or lay on dirty mattresses in a store. Firm.

Memory foam sucks, OP! I wake up semi-crippled every morning. Get a good spring mattress.

Ooh, I have the Saatva and it’s worth the wait.

The luxury firm Saatva is 100% worth the wait.

Blanche Devereaux

If you have Amex or Visa and you decide to go with Saavta, check the card rewards before you place your order. I got $150 off of my mattress from an Amex card benefit.

Thanks. The more I look, the more I like the Saatva. I'm wondering if getting an airbed while I wait would be better than this awful mattress I am stuck with for now.

I bought spring mattresses at Aldi or Lidl one time. They were great but didn't last forever of course. Dirt cheap.

I had a Casper and a tuft n needle. Both nice.

I bought a DreamCloud Deluxe a few months ago and I love it. They have lots of promos for free pillows, etc so check around.

I’m really like my SleepNumber. Mine doesn’t have all the fancy stuff the high end ones do.

I’m a side sleeper too and morning low back pain is a thing of the past.

It was a good purchase.

This won't help you, OP, but I would never part with my Soma 7-tube waterbed. Looks like regular bed and takes ordinary fitted sheets. You can adjust the firmness by regulating the amount of water in the tubes. Every night I drift off on a cloud of happiness, gently rocked by the light wave motion.

2nding to get an air bed while you decide.

A soft bed is recommended for side sleepers though. Innerspring with a layer or two of latex would be optimal.

Reason I like SleepNumber beds: metal fatigue over time with coil spring mattresses and heat build up with foam mattresses.

Air cannot sag and heat is not a problem.

I like to buy things that last and last and free air will never be made obsolete.

Plus SleepNumber mattresses are adjustable firmness. What could be better?

[quote] This won't help you, OP, but I would never part with my Soma 7-tube waterbed.

I thought waterbeds were a thing of the past, but you're the second person in a month to mention having one.

As shoddy as American homebuilding has become, I wouldn't put a water bed upstairs unless I was sure my dwelling could bear the immense weight.

They're really giving memory foam and latex mattresses the hard sell right now but what isn't mentioned much is how much heavier they are than traditional mattresses. A regular full can be about 150 lbs.

Oh come off it r19, you weigh ten times what a king size waterbed weighs. And you know it.

Air mattresses are not good for cold weather. The air in the mattress does not warm up. You'll feel the cold coming from below you, no matter how many blankets you have on top of you.

Saatva. Worth the wait.

The most comfortable bed I've slept in was in Japan. And I recreated it after I moved from Japan. Anyway, it's regular foam (the folding kind) with a futon (no, not a couch) mattress on top. The futon is not the rigid type, it's the thick-quilt type that you can roll up.

You can put that on the floor or on a platform.

Jesus, OP, fucking whiner - order the Saatva and either get a mattress topper while you wait or suck it up for a few weeks.

I have no idea what you're talking about, r22. You must mean a temporary air mattress.

You obviously don't own a SleepNumber like me.

I'm probably in the minority but I've had a memoryfoam for a little over a year and love it. But I've never really had sleep issues, I could probably sleep standing up in a wind tunnel.

But what happens if an Ice Pick Killer breaks into your house and in the course of ice picking you to death, puts a big hole in your sleep number? Number's up for that mattress, right?

i get the memory foam toppers from Costco and solve most of my issues

I've got to get a new mattress too, OP. Mine actually isn't that old and it was fucking expensive--but I'm tired of sweating my ass off at night. My partner and I are both hot sleepers, and even with the AC cranked down to 65 I still wake up HOT. It's that fucking memory foam/pillow-top bullshit. I want just a regular goddam mattress like I used to have. Any suggestions?

I'm not sure what to do now. I thought I would look some more and I think I'd like a latex bed the best, I was looking at Avocado but the one I like says 9 weeks out. Now I'm thinking I'll head to a Mattress Firm and see if they have anything, maybe I'll go with a box spring and call it a day. I just don't want anything that smells too much, I would rather have a more natural bed but I also want a bed sooner rather than later.

I ended up getting a Natural Escape from My Green Mattress. The whole process was so overwhelming. Mattress Firm almost had me sold on a Purple, but I looked at online reviews and it seems that after a few months it breaks down. I don't want to deal with that shit.

r30 Latex is supposed to be cooler, I hate memory foam with a passion. I went with a coil/latex hybrid, they don't make mattresses like they used to.

Are you hot, OP? I have a very comfortable mattress under me right now, that I'd be willing to share.

Op, just put some comforters and sleeping bags on the floor.

I need a traditional box spring mattress too. Where to get?

[quote] I've got to get a new mattress too, OP. Mine actually isn't that old and it was fucking expensive--but I'm tired of sweating my ass off at night.

R30, They make mattress toppers that have cooling gel in them. I'd buy one of those first before I'd buy a new mattress

I got a hybrid mattress (helix midnight luxe) last summer and love it to pieces. Took forever to ship but ultimately worth the wait Highly recommend if you’re a side sleeper. My ex could toss and turn and I wouldn’t feel it at all.

I bought a Saatva Classic Luxury Firm mattress and foundation in November and I absolutely love it. I too am a side sleeper, OP. Additionally, I occasionally have back pain so I devoted a lot of time doing my research. For the first time in my life, I bought a mattress online without ever having lain on one first. I was very wary of doing this, so a no questions asked, paid return policy was essential to me. Saatva gives you 6 months to decide!

Because I am pushing 60 and am alone in a second story apartment, I had no intention of dragging my old mattress and boxspring down the flight of stairs by myself. Also, I have no truck so I couldn’t junk them if I wanted to. So I thought that I’d be hiring a handyman and renting a truck, in addition to paying for the mattress. So it had to be delivery. Go to other mattress companies and read the fine print on their delivery terms. Due to COVID, every last one says they will deliver to the curb and no further. Saatva was the one exception. In addition to delivering and installing in my bedroom, they will cart away your existing mattress and box spring and haul it away! That checked all the boxes for me. I am really happy with my purchase.

Wait for the Saatva.

In the meantime get whatever delivers faster and has a return guarantee like Casper, then send it back.

I got my Green Mattress Natural Escape today, I will try it out tonight and report how it went. I have 120 days, I can always get a Saatva if it doesn't work out.

I got this last year and love it. It lays on a metal platform, and I use a memory foam topper, both from Amazon. Good sheets and pillow cases, king sized pillows, and a king sized duvet. My bed is really comfortable and lush. I got mine on sale for 500 bucks during a Presidents Day sale.

Anyone have Avocado? Consumer reports loves it and I’m tempted

For those of you with Saatva, is it more of a traditional mattress or is it a hybrid? I've been researching mattresses the last several days and see it on a lot of best of lists, but I'm not quite sure on the construction.

I have a Beautyrest hybrid (sadly not the black) and have loved it, but it's at the end of it's lifespan and need a new one asap. I'm a side sleeper with no heat issues, but my brain refuses to shut off until 1-3am, so am often in bed for several hours at night before falling asleep.

r40 The crappy mattress that I was borrowing was a Beautyrest and I hate it because I would sink into the awful memory foam and it messed up my back.

r41 I was in the My Green Mattress showroom and they had an Avocado. I laid on it and it was too firm for me, and I like firm. Otherwise fairly similar to the Natural Escape, although Avocado is more expensive and supposed to be better made. You would definitely need a topper and memory foam is THE DEVIL to me.

yeah, yeah, there's an apostrophe that doesn't belong in R42

I meant to tag the Saatva posts R6, R7, R9, R23, R37, R38

Another Sleep Number fan here. First one lasted for 14 years, prior to owning one I had nagging lower back pain. the customer service and warranty is excellent. Just replaced it with a new model. Besides the remote which can increase or decrease firmness and adjust pressure points as you sleep, this new mattress also has an app for your phone, which gives you a report each morning on the amount of restful sleep, quality of sleep etc. I don't really care about that. Reminds me of an old bf who gave me a report each morning: you were so restless last night, moved around too much, got up twice, etc. He had to go.

Friends have the high end kitchen sink version. Heats foot area, separate temp controls for each side of bed, can raise head or foot of bed, does everything but make the bed. They love it.

Also for the Saatva folks, did you order the foundation they sell? I have a platform bed with slats am not sure what the difference is between it and their foundation.

What height mattress did you order and thoughts on it?

Any further thoughts on Saatva or Avocado?

I would go with a Saatva if I had to do it all over again. I slept on my Natural Escape and it was a little too firm, I will buy a latex topper and hopefully that should solve it. But it got here quickly and they set it up for free because I am in the area. I tried out the Avocado and it was very nice but too firm-only if you are strictly a back or stomach sleeper.

Thanks

[quote]Also for the Saatva folks, did you order the foundation they sell? I have a platform bed with slats am not sure what the difference is between it and their foundation. What height mattress did you order and thoughts on it?

I had a low profile foundation from Ethan Allen that I use with my Saatva mattress. The foundation is 5 inches, the mattress is 14.5 inches. My bed frame is 7 inches off the floor. I'm tall so the bed isn't too high for me.

Saatva answers the question: Can I put my Saatva Classic on a platform bed?

Yes, you can put your Saatva Classic on a platform bed, as long as it has a solid surface or horizontal slats spaced less than 4 inches apart. Queen and larger sizes also need proper center support.

Either the 11.5" or 14.5" height can be used with a platform. We recommend the 11.5" version if your platform has a low headboard, so that more of the headboard remains visible. But the decision is purely aesthetic; both mattresses have the same coil count and deliver the same level of comfort and quality. Need more help choosing a mattress height? See How to Choose the Right Mattress Height for You.

I think the key for Saatva is proper center support because the mattresses are so heavy.

[quote]I sound like a pain

More like an entitled impatient asshole.

Will the Saatva delivery men haul that mattress up my 3 flights of stairs?

[quote]Mattress Firm almost had me sold on a Purple, but I looked at online reviews and it seems that after a few months it breaks down.

Aren't Purple mattresses made from a gel or silicone like material?

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Slats and a Japanese floor mattress. Problem solved.

Beat it you 50 yr old mattress!

[quote] Will the Saatva delivery men haul that mattress up my 3 flights of stairs?

Yes.

so who here actually has the Saatva and can report -- vs who is responding based on reputation

I can , and I did.

👍🏼👍🏼. I'm very close to ordering one. Thanks

I get hot when I sleep. I’m a side/stomach sleeper. Any thoughts on what might be good for me? I need a new mattress. I’m moving soon. TIA

I bought a Saatva mattress (in a queen) and loved sleeping on it so much, I bought another one (king size) before moving overseas. I figured I might as well stick with what works instead of trying to find a like mattress. I highly recommend.

Great recommentiaotn r63. And I'm same as you r62-- side sleeper and sleep hot

asking for a mattress recommendation is silly. Go to stores. Try out the mattresses. Buy one you like. Make sure they have a 30 day return policy in case you buy one you end up not liking. And remember that some mattresses break in a bit (so remember what you'll end up with after a few months may be slightly less firm than when you try it that day).

R62 and R65 I’m a side sleeper my mattress is comfortable for me. Before I owned a Saatva, I was never comfortable sleeping on my back, but now I am, so I have options!

I don’t sleep hot, but I do use linen sheets, fwiw.

All linen here too. We should sleep together r67

Hit me up when you’re in Sweden, r68.

Go to the website called The Mattress Underground. Read the Overview section.

Their recommendation: Buy your mattress from a small regional manufacturer with a showroom. The product will be what we used to think of as a good mattress, well-made, from higher quality components.

OTOH, If you go to a national retailer (like the Mattress Firm, Sleep Train, whatever), you have to accept that the retailer will be selling you some version of the “big S” manufacturer beds: Sealy, Simmons, Serta, etc, and you’re buying an inferior product, even at the high end, made from inferior components.

Here's a link. After the Overview section, you can choose the amount of detail you want to go into. There's also a good forum section, too.

Beats just wandering blind into a dirty mattress retailer and lying down on a bunch of different mattresses.

We got a Cassatt plushtop Euro style. pricey but nice. I actually liked the Sealy pillow top. Remember to get deep pocket sheets!

Instead of buying a new mattress, I put a 3" Tempurpedic topper on my old spring one.

Recommend McRoskey a mattress. Made in SF for 140 years. When The Queen (of England) stayed in SF in 1985, she slept on one in a hotel and ordered a bunch to be sent back to one of her properties. Have had mine for 25 years. They last a lifetime. The only catch is that you have to rotate or flip the mattress every four months or so. Payed $3,500 for a California King for the mattress and a feather bed topping. Box spring not included, but I used my old one. The great-grandson (gay) sold me mine. The original showroom is near The Castro. Best money I ever spent.

[quote]Payed

The hell kind of thread is this? If I am tired I can sleep on the sofa and not be so fussy

TempurPedic

My MIL sold mattresses at a fancy department store and she always bought Schiffman for herself. They’re pretty nice.

^^ Shifman

Weird.

so stavana is a spring mattress? I hate foam too. I need a mattress. There is so much crap. What are the good spring mattress brands right now?

I'm a side sleeper, but I also need to sleep on my back sometimes. Better for you.

I still have my mattress I bought in 2004. It was the cheapest one in the store, and super firm. Only $350, and they included the bed frame for free. I splurge on sheets, bedding, and pillows, but the mattress has served me just fine.

thanks [R80]. Now all I need is a time machine.

Being stuck in the house for a year really does cause you to reevaluate your home furnishings. I had two beds, each at least twenty years old, that I realized were pretty much shot, and since I can sleep on just about anything, I decided to buy replacements online according to reviews rather than risking Covid by trying them out in a showroom. I'm really glad I did. I had no idea how bad my old beds were until I started noticing how easy it was to get comfortable on them and how certain aches and pains went away after a few nights in my new bed.

The beds I chose were two sets of full-sized firm 14 in. innerspring mattresses with foundations and metal frames. One was a Stearns and Foster Hurston, the other was a Saatva Classic. They cost about the same (both were on sale) and in terms of basic construction and feel, they're pretty much identical, with a bumpy quilted foam layer on top that looks a little weird if you're used to a bed with a flat surface, but that I don't notice when I'm lying on it. The Saatva mattress is a little lighter if you're one of those people like me who likes to switch it around so that it wears evenly (they're made to be slept on with the bumpy side up so you can't flip them over.) It's also the most handsome looking mattress I've ever seen, pure white with gold accents. The S&F is navy blue on the sides and white on top.

I have a friend who bought a Novaform bed in a box from Costco and absolutely swears by it, but says it's REALLY heavy.

The Novaform has some pretty poor reviews on Costco. Doesn't last. How old is the one your friend recommends, R82?

what about those japanese futons?

I'm the OP that ended up getting a Natural Escape from My Green Mattress. The first 3 nights were rough and I thought it was too hard, but by the 4th night and ever since, it has been great and the perfect firmness. I didn't know that the first few nights on a new mattress can be rough due to your body adjusting to it. I am happy with my purchase.

[quote] But what happens if an Ice Pick Killer breaks into your house and in the course of ice picking you to death, puts a big hole in your sleep number? Number's up for that mattress, right?

That is where you’d be MISTAKEN, mister! If you enter “911” as your sleep number, police officers come popping out of your mattress, arresting the ice pick killer, and saving your life! Proving the superiority of sleep number ... yet again!

Husks and a sack. Trust me.

When mattress manufactures blatantly decided to shorten the mattress buying interval by only making mattresses with one wear surface ("No flipping!" they crowed), was the moment I seriously considered a SleepNumber.

Conventional mattress prices are getting ridiculous, they don't last nearly as long as the once did, and foam alternatives tend to sleep uncomfortably hot.

Over time the metal in coil spring mattresses develops memory (aka, "sag") and the off-gassing, in addition to the retained heat and heavy weight of foam mattresses, are seen as a purchase mistake by many.

"Air Don't Sag" should be a SleepNumber slogan.

If you haven't tried one in a SleepNumber store, you owe it to yourself to add one to your consideration list.

I have IKEA's natural latex mattress and it provides the best night's sleep. The morning after the first night we had it, my ex and I both woke with no aches, pains, or back problems.

Latex mattresses are heavy. Getting it to the bedroom on the 3rd floor of our house required great effort. After that, the weight is a non-issue. If back pain is an issue, then you owe it to yourself to thoroughly investigate latex mattresses.

There are some DESPERATE Sleep Number shills on this thread. It’s a fucking air mattress marked up thousands of %.

Idiotic churl who doesn't have one. ^^^^

Not r89 but why is he a churl? Latex mattresses are very heavy and extremely comfortable.

90 is the churl, r92. See the little ^^^ pointing up?

R24 the Japanese mattresses really are best, and so good for the spine as well as for your home and for the environment. Japan really is an incredible country, and they do so many everyday things in a more holistic healthy way than we do in the West.

I have a stationary futon/mattress hybrid (from the company at the link, who are excellent) that has converted me. My mattress is layered so it is firm but not hard, mouldy subtly to my body shape, and supports/stretches my skeleton without too much give. Best of all, it’s all natural materials which don’t set of my allergies and don’t off-gas toxic chemicals like normal mattresses. This has changed my life for the better, and I will never go back to regular spring or latex or foam mattresses.

The only thing is, you’ve got to remember to flip a futon/mattress hybrid monthly (so it doesn’t lump up), and air it out in the sun a few times yearly (during a dry summer spell works well).

Ah, thanks 91, I have 90 blocked.

Bump

I have only owned innerspring mattresses. I need a new mattress and it seems like the safest bet to purchase another innerspring. All other mattresses get mixed reviews and varying complaints.

I am the original poster. I've been sleeping on my Natural Escape from My Green Mattress, with a 3 inch latex topper for the last 9 months, and am still happy with it. Without the topper, it would make my arm fall asleep due to it being too firm.

Kirkland Signature by Stearns & Foster 14.5" Lakeridge Mattress from Costco

Do any mattress/furniture stores sell Saatva? I'd hate to buy something like this online w/o seeing/trying it first.