Pillow Cunt banned from Twitter

He's so obsessed with this, it's almost like he's a crack addict. Oh, wait, never mind.

He reminds me of Lloyd Bridges in Airplane where he consecutively got worse and worse with his addictions.

You know he’s going to go back to using.

Didnt he lay off 150 people last year?

“Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue”

'I SEE YOUR DIRTY PILLOWS!"

His "secret" to his pillows is that they are made of shredded memory foam. This commercial from 4 years ago took a dig at his pillow without even mentioning the name. Brilliant and oh so true.

What? Is he a former addict? A lot of trump acolytes seem to be addictive personalities.

Yes, he is, google his background, he was an addict big time, until he found God in a pillow.

Maybe he and Trump can start their own version of Twitter, "My Insta-Tok"

R3: Going back? He’s already back on the crack as we speak.

No such thing as a former addict. Recovering addict, yes. But I have my doubts about him being one of them.

Maybe he's actually the pusher for Junior Mint and the Gargoyle He's getting it from somewhere.

He's addicted to Trump. He cant quite him.

I’ve had his pillows and can’t figure out why anyone would think they’re so great, or why they’d pay so much for them. We got them for nothing, so am glad I never gave his company money. We ended up using them for the dogs in their crate.

I say follow his kkkonections.

I've said this before, but I think there's some money laundering scheme going on with this MyPillow shit. I don't see how some shitty pillow can pay for all of the hours and hours of advertising on cable news (even though Fox had lost most of their advertisers, their rates probably cost a chunk of change).

Maybe the IRS or Justice Dept. should investigate.

Ha. Ha. Ha-aaaaaaa! His collapse is certain, now! I shit on his stupid pillows.

I point my buttocks in his general direction!!!

There was (don’t know if it’s still going) a false advertising BOGO deal, and people were only sent one pillow. Customer service refused to take up the offer. It’s sad that they have to use fake deals to sell their products and rip off customers.

He and the Kraken and Giuliani are ALL going to be destroyed through this litigation, which is exactly what needs to happen. They're all going to have to loudly proclaim "It was all a pack of LIES, there is NOTHING to support one bit of it, and I am so so sorry I ever got mixed up with this." They've got NOTHING on their side.

At least he has plenty of pillows to cry into.

These idiots abhor cancel culture. Yet, what’s shattering is that they will lose everything.

Please don't flame me whores but joking and politics aside, this is NOT okay. It reminds me of that WWII poem from Niemoller:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

We should all, for all our sakes, be pushing back against this. Trump was a different situation. His words had power. We're literally now "canceling" people based on thoughts and feelings. And the really frightening thing is that it's happening so boldly because we were all so sick of Trump and the country is so politically divided. So, in doing this social media is throwing raw meat to lions. But, where does it end?

And for those of you who say no one has a "right" to Twitter, Facebook, etc. and that they're private organizations; remember the bigoted baker who wouldn't service the lesbian couple. That was wrong also and it was corrected. Also, consider the power of tech giants, the fact they do, in fact, have and use access to the public infrastructure, the public trading markets, etc. The resources they use to be so powerful technically belong to the people of the United States.

So, no. This is not cool and we should reject it. Regardless of what a whack job the pillow man is. We should all come around this growing issue because it will eventually come back to cut all of us if we don't.

R25, The man had a printed out plan for the insurrection that he carried into a meeting with the dumb one. That is enough for me.

^^R25: These "cancelled" politicos are LYING about falsification of the results of a US Presidential election. It's an entirely different matter from not feeling like painting a lard rainbow on a goddamned cake. It is of a completely different magnitude. Yes, they need to have the access to propagate these LIES taken away from them. Such access should have been terminated years ago.

Great thread title OP!

You have a point, r25, albeit a rambling one. I do applaud these social platforms for trying to take a stand on this critical issue. Maybe if truth became fashionable again, there wouldn’t be a need for this.

Personally, I think that Rush Limbaugh and his copycats should have been shut down decades ago. Perhaps if they were, we wouldn’t be here now.

^And further, it now occurs to me that this is EXACTLY analogous to the old Constitutional Law example of "yelling FIRE in a movie theater." It is a type of speech that is NOT protected by the Constitution: you DON'T have a wholesale right to LIE about things in the public forum. Is it a matter of personal belief whether the results of the election were falsified? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. - R27

He should be focusing on why his business has an F on the BBB.

r25, you may not like it but you have NO RIGHT to spew malicious incendiary bullshit on someone else's platform. Same reason I already blocked you eons ago. Twitter decided they don't want to be responsible for spreading even more bullshit on the internets, especially bullshit that lead to an attack on the nation's Capitol.

Awful business.

R25 - so should Twitter also be held to account for whatever people Tweet? The community standards are something you agree to when you sign up. Break the agreement, you lose your Twitter privileges. And the ability to use Twitter is a privilege, not a right. The “public” does not own Twitter.

[quote] At least he has plenty of pillows to cry into.

Shitty pillows that are only good for crying into.

R25 can be tossed in the gulags and forgotten as far as I’m concerned. He’s part of the problem.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

[quote] this is NOT okay.

Gigantic fucking eyeroll.

R25,

[quote] Trump was a different situation. His words had power. We're literally now "canceling" people based on thoughts and feelings.

Hasn’t this always been done? Just now on a broader spectrum?

If I don’t like what you say, I may choose not to speak to you.

If I don’t like what your business stands for or with, I may choose not to do business with you.

If I was looking for a contractor for work in my home, would I choose the contractor who is racist and misogynistic or one who is not? It’s my right to hire whatever contractor I want to and s/he had better not have a history of racist, disgusting posts online because it will affect my decision.

Every time you speak you’re speaking publicly for your company. So you’d better be careful what you say as there are consequences.

He is now suffering the consequences, not because of his “thoughts,” but because he was advocating and planning for the very overthrow of the United States government. His business should continue on unabated and those who say “I’m not buying those pillows” are the wrong ones?

Agreed R29. As for Limbaugh and the poison of talk radio, I would have been fine taking them off the radio. But since the government did away with the equal time clause, the bile you hear on talk radio is seen by many as matching that of the news networks who can be, arguable, just as biased. Though MSNBC is at least legitimate news. Mark Levin is just poisonous and dangerous and derranged.

I don't know anything about the pillow guy other than he's a fundie and used to be a drug addict. I have two of those pillows and they're shitty and hot and get mushy after a while. He seems like a total skeeve. But to make a point, remember when Madonna called for people to bomb the White House at the women's march? Or all the things we've even said here on DL? The politics have been white-hot the last few years. People say shit that we shouldn't say. I should have said one time that I wish Trump's head would be chopped off and set on fire. But I should have the right to say it when there is a reasonable assumption that I'm saying so as an expression, and not as a threat.

I don't know what's right really. I just know that it feels unsettling to have people being kicked off the moden day town square.

I'm going to buy one of his pillows in the name of free speech and as a fuck you to Twitter and cancel culture. Thanks for the info, OP.

This is not the modern day town square.

If I invite you to my home for dinner and I say the rules are you have to take off your shoes before entering and you agree, then you don’t take them off, I’m throwing your ass out of my house.

If I invite you to dinner and you go out on my lanai afterward and bellow to everyone within earshot “r41 makes the absolute worst pot roast I’ve ever eaten! Does everyone hear me?! The worst!” I, again, am throwing your ass out of my house, even though we didn’t specifically discuss that would not be appropriate.

As I indicated above, we're not talking about beliefs and opinions here, we're talking about open-faced LIES about the results of an election. If you spread someone else's lies, you don't get to shirk responsibility for them by saying "Oh well, I BELIEVED that what I repeated was the truth." This not an issue of opinion about something, it's about demonstrable facts. -R30

@r25, the verse you quote is one of my all time favorites, but you got it backwards, THEY are the ones who've been coming for US for four years and we are now speaking out

^And in the case of Dominion and the Pillow Cunt, it has slid over into libel and slander. Pillow Cunt, the Kraken, and Ghouliani are going to be held ruinously liable for promulgating this dangerous bullshit. There is NO legal privilege to LIE.

He never threatened anyone, he never incited violence, he expressed his opinion. R45, what planet do you live on? People lie all the time. People call out companies and their products all the time.

[quote]People lie all the time

...and are held accountable for their lies. Like Twitter is doing here. He did not express an opinion, he is spreading a dangerous lie. A lie that has resulted in gigantic lawsuits that Twitter doesn't want to be involved with.

What OPINION? That Dominion's machines falsified the results of the US election by somehow transmitting the data to China or Venezuela so that it could be flipflopped away from Trump? Are you out of your goddamned mind? That is NOT an OPINION, as a matter of LAW. It is an assertion of fact and Pillow Guy is going to rue the day he ever "published" it, in his Twitter account and elsewhere. Wait and see. This is pure libel and it's going to cost him. They warned him, he ignored them and doubled down. It is NOT a matter of "free speech" under the Constitution of this country.

Lying is not an opinion.

R46 likes to play stupid games. That's why he wins stupid prizes such as shitty pillows.

As odious as this man is, unless he is inciting imminent criminal activity then this is just censorship for political discussion and beliefs.

Sowwy, I never did go along with crowd think. Thanks, Mom.

^The law underlying the First Amendment and the laws of libel and slander in the US are based on reason and the philosophy of the Enlighentment and English law, that ultimately were derived from Roman law, from Socrates, Plato, and many others. "Going along with the crowd" and baby-talk have nothing to do with it. The problem is that you confuse being able to express an opinion with being able to promulgate others' lies that don't have, and never did have, any basis in fact. Spreading such "opinions" (false allegations whimsically put out there as "just my own opinion") cause REAL, demonstrable injury to other people, and in this case could have caused something like the downfall of the Federal government. You don't really understand what the issue is. This is something that there is a LOT of legal history to, in this country and elsewhere, and you don't know what you're talking about, really.

QVC better not ever feature this fucker & his lumpy pillows ever again!

[quote] As odious as this man is, unless he is inciting imminent criminal activity then this is just censorship for political discussion and beliefs.

The very existence of any form of opposition to Democrats is by definition incitement to criminal activity.

^^... and don't you forget it, buttface

[quote] then this is just censorship for political discussion and beliefs.

You can spout any lies, conspiracy theories or insurrection instructions you’d like. I’m under no obligation to give you the megaphone with which to do it.

Just a few thoughts. The first is Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. The second thought is I figured these pillows were shitty. The third thought is Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. The final thought is that the money laundering it’s an interesting theory but it’s more likely he’s learned how not to pay his vendors like trump. He probably got special tutoring when he went to the White House

[quote] Spreading such "opinions" (false allegations whimsically put out there as "just my own opinion") cause REAL, demonstrable injury to other people, and in this case could have caused something like the downfall of the Federal government. You don't really understand what the issue is.

No. That is not the law. The law is clear. You cannot claim that "whimsical false allegations" or "opinions" are not protected speech because of what they may lead to - from hurt feelings to violence. You are making up law to fit your discomfort which speech you oppose. The issue is First Amendment law - not your version of it.

I repeat

[quote] In Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), the Supreme Court of the United States held that in order to lose First Amendment protection as incitement, speech must be “directed to inciting imminent lawless action and is likely to produce such action.”

Here is a discussion by the First Amendment Watch at NYU specifically adressing the Trump rally speech under the Brandenberg/Hess analysis.

If you're intrested in understanding the "fighting words" exception to First Amendment protected speech - an exception which has been so narrowed by the Court that it barely exists anymore - then I will post a good link below.

So what does Jane Krakowski, his purported ex-lover, think?

This has nothing to do with the First Amendment. The government is not trying to jail him for what he’s saying. A private company decided not to give him a platform for it.

^R58: The problem with your "argument" is that Lindell is not being sued for incitement. He's being sued for slander and libel. He lost his twitter account because of the propaganda he was spewing, lies. He's not being prosecuted (OR persecuted) for that - Twitter cut him off because they believed that his bullshit is incendiary. He's not being "censored" - It's a private company and they can refuse access to anybody they want to. I understand what your point is, but in this particular situation, it's clear that something has to be done to shut down this tidal wave of bullshit that these right wingers are putting out. It's the same situation as Alex Jones claiming loudly that the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax - it's "just his opinion", but past a certain point it became actionable lies, and he's going to pay for it; he is going to lose that law suit. There is a good article on the web now about the Dominion law suit against Giuliani, and how he was using his radio show to broadcast his shit about Dominion while shilling for vitamin supplements, gold, "home security" systems, and so on. It was all really just hucksterism directed at ignorant right-wing sheep. They can do what they want with their money, but coyly hinting that people out to rise up and overthrow the government, based on their having been "cheated" is where I draw the line. And that IS what was going on with all of this blabber about the "stolen" election. It's ALL bullshit.

^It's EXACTLY the same situation as the "crying FIRE! in a crowded theater" case, from Supreme Court doctrine. Why DONT you have the right to scream "FIRE!" in a crowded theater where there is no fire? Because people REALLY get hurt when a riot is incited.

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