New text messages released from Capitol siege:

My question is who was feeding them this detailed, real-time, sensitive information? It points to someone high-up who had access to the house floor... maybe a congressman?

This is so deep.

This is vile...but I think the gas comment was a sick joke. There’s no evidence they actually had gas, right?

Can not wait until the congressional insiders are exposed and indicted.

[quote] My question is who was feeding them this detailed, real-time, sensitive information? It points to someone high-up who had access to the house floor... maybe a congressman?

Probably that Poundland Sarah Palin cunt.

Turns out there is a “deep state” after all ... and it tried to assassinate Democrats.

r2, hey had gas grenades and multiple bombs as they sated earlier. Seems real to me.

Do you have a source for that r5? I just did a search and couldn’t find anything confirming the rioters has gas grenades with them. Also, as far as I know, only two bombs were found, and they were planted outside the night before. I can’t find anything to support the idea that the rioters had the capability to actually lock the congress members in the tunnels and gas them.

Horrible. They need to find the collaborators.

The gas mains under the Capitol?

We need to know who made the decision and gave the order for Capitol Police and National Guard to stand down and allow the insurrection to happen.

And the justice department and the FBI are debating whether to charge any more of these people because it will be too much work and could overwhelm courthouses. These people were terrorists. Set up a tribunal to handle them

If they don't charge all of these people, I'll never vote again

I personally know 5 people who have had their lives COMPLETELY RUINED because of minor drug arrests. And the fucking government wants to let these traitors off

How do they heat the Capitol? Natural gas?

This is mindblowing! Where was it coming from?

Where did that QAnon cunt Lauren Boebert get the information she tweeted out about Nancy Pelosi's location? That would be a great place to start.

[quote]My question is who was feeding them this detailed, real-time, sensitive information?

Lauren Boebert

R10 "If they don't charge all of these people, I'll never vote again"

That's what they want.

If you want to show resentment toward them, then you should vote more often, not less...

The "I'll never vote again" works both ways.

It helped us win Georgia.

I do not need you to tell me ANYTHING about Georgia. I'm live Georgia. But I'll be done with the dems if they do this

These people tried to overthrow the government and they don't want to prosecute them. That's disgusting

the republicans would never, ever, ever let the dems get away with this

What about that other crazy Qunt? Not Boebert.

R16, where are you hearing this? I am a political news junkie, and have heard nothing indicating that they don't want to charge people. Everything I have read indicates the opposite. They arrested a slime bag here in Colorado the other day for pulling that cop down the stairs.

Don't buy into disinformation, and confirm that what you have heard is actually true before you stomp your foot, and flounce off into the sunset, never to vote again.

Gas? Probably a reference to tear gas. They wouldn’t know that members had masks stashed under their seats. Even if they did know, there were enough photos of them *not* wearing them when they exited the chamber.

Paul Gosar and Andy Biggs, who begged Trump for pre-emptive pardons but didn't get them.

Does anyone still wonder how 9/11 happened? The US government, the CIA and FBI are completely incompetent.

Why didn't the police shoot them? There are cops in there with tactical weapon gear. You can see them in the video of that woman who got shot.

[quote]My question is who was feeding them this detailed, real-time, sensitive information?

Not discounting the possibility of insider info, but also the media is to blame. I was watching the PBS stream and their reporter there was reporting live as she was evacuated, along with members of Congress, into the tunnels, all the while showing where they were going and where they ended up. Surprisingly poor judgement from PBS.

Plus there was a story on Twitter that some member of Congress (who wasn't named) gave a media interview whilst they were in the secure room and told the interviewer where they were, which had everyone around them face-palming.

yes I heard someone say on CNN I think that they were all in the tunnels.

I wonder about the non-important staff.

Where did all the janitors and secretaries and stuff go? They must have been terrified.

It's just what I said in the thread above, they need to be exterminated before they exterminate the great of us.

Please please please trace this back to Trump. Like Michael Cohen sad: nothing ever happens without his approval.

R18 it was in a lot of major news sources today.

Federal law enforcement officials are privately debating whether they should decline to charge some of the individuals who stormed the U.S. Capitol this month — a politically loaded proposition but one alert to the practical concern that hundreds of such cases could swamp the local courthouse.

Due to the wide variety of behavior, some federal officials have argued internally that those people who are known only to have committed unlawful entry — and were not engaged in violent, threatening or destructive behavior — should not be charged, according to people familiar with the discussions.

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Terrorists. Who got a get out of jail card

Didn’t they arrest hundreds of BLM protesters in DC? Are they clogging up the court system? Or were they settled with a plea agreement LIKE 95% OF COURT CASES. Hint: it was the latter. So these can be handled the same way.

Contact your representatives and tell them not charging these terrorists is UNACCEPTABLE.

Ummm

I suspect the victims of the attack don’t really need additional motivation

Am I the only one who fr a sec. thought it was "Newt text"?

If the invasion wasn't serious enough to charge them with a crime, then they can't charge Trump with a crime: the riot just was't serious enough.

Just find the cabal of commandos who did all the bad stuff and sentence them.

I don't think "turn on gas" is meant literally. It's an old expression like "turn up the heat." In other words, "increase the intensity of activity, coercion."

Still, it is mindboggling. Who know where it would have led, if they had succeeded.

If the government goes easy on these motherfuckers, then, America truly deserves another Trump in the White House.

If by day five of Biden's presidency you haven't a list of all the possible outcomes which will cause you to "never vote again", you're not a Democrat!

If they don't get arrested, can't everyone just invade the capitol every time they're mad? A precedent would be set for allowing it

Can't we all threaten to kill the police? Can't we all threaten to kill the Vice President? Or to hunt down the Speaker of the House?

Just remember what all those terrorists were screaming when they were attacking the police, "FUCK THE BLUE, KILL THEM, KILL THEM, KILL THEM WITH THEIR OWN GUNS"

and then when they wanted to kill the VP, "WHERE'S MIKE PENCE, SHOW YOURSELF PENCE, WE'LL PUT YOUR HEAD ON A PIKE, HANG PENCE, HANG MIKE PENCE"

Very fine people indeed. I'm sure they really learned their lesson

[quote] If by day five of Biden's presidency you haven't a list of all the possible outcomes which will cause you to "never vote again", you're not a Democrat!

And on day five, the dems are already caving

If they're going to let shit like this go, I don't want to be a member of their party. And a lot of other people won't either

If they are not prosecuted then all means of protection in the DOJ needs to be removed. No metal detectors, no security staff, no locked doors, no bodyguards with guns, no restrictions on entry whatsoever.

If there’s no prohibitions to entry and no consequences, why put police, guards and the like at risk trying to stop anyone?

I should be able to walk into the building unfettered and walk right into the AG’s office and give him a piece of my mind.

It's a fair bet Nancy Pelosi won't shrug off January 6 as a specially bad day at the office. At 80, escaping death as incited publicly by an outgoing 'President' while doing your job isn't something to be moved on from.

If I feel consuming hatred for what Trump attempted, I can only imagine what Nancy and so many others feel. I long for Trump to pay deeply and absolutely for his final contemptuous disgusting crime against his country.

Dear lord.

It’s the Justice Department aka Trump appointees that are arguing for leniency..

R34: "turn on the gas" is explicitly a reference to what the Nazis did to German Jews during the Third Reich, genocidal mass murder. These "protestors" idolize Hitler; it's very easy to verify, it's all over their web postings. Don't kid yourself and don't waste others' time trying to soft-soap their words. These people are the lowest scum of US society, who had invaded the Capitol building, and were determined to stop our government from certifying a completely free and fair election, plain and simple. THEY ARE NAZIS.

What can we do - email, call, who can we reach out to (FBI, senators) to make it VERY clear to them that we want these people charged and tried with the highest crimes possible?

The gassing reference strikes me as something the Roller Nazi AKA the Berchtesgaden Snowflake would write.

Either Roller Nazi or Lauren QAnon cunt Boebert R45.

Sounds like either of them could have happily written it and wanted that to happen. Both of them were armed too weren't they?

[quote]I'm live Georgia.

Oh dear.

[quote]If you want to show resentment toward them, then you should vote more often, not less...

Personally, I have started voting every day, twice on Wednesdays and Sundays.

I may follow Broadway tradition and take Mondays off.

"Turn on gas" is *not* an old saying, r34...unless, like other posters have pointed out, in Nazi Germany.

"Step on the gas"....also not the same.

If they don’t get charged it will set a dangerous precedent. Can I now walk into the Capitol and sit in Nancy’s chair, steal her lectern and smear shit on the walls on the way out? No repercussions??? Wtf?

It does raise the question, r51. Did they drop trou in the moment and pinch a loaf? Or did they bring fecal matter with them in colorful Tupperware® containers?

{R27} Letting those that just committed “unlawful entry” go? Are you fucking kidding me?! So I can now just “unlawfully enter” someone’s house and not be charged? Sweet deal! Every single one who entered the Capitol should be charged. Every. Single. One.

We now know just what bad agents some of the individuals and groups were that committed a crime/crimes that day. Crimes ranging from First Degree Murder and Insurrection on down. I have no doubt that some were just a bunch of yahoos that got caught up in the moment. Doesn’t matter. They should all be charged and the severity of the penalty should depend on the severity of the crime.

We must never lose track of the fact that every Trump supporter that went down there that day, went with the intent to overturn democracy. That is, they were already perpetuating the outrageous lie, willingly or not, that a free and fair election was stolen from Trump. That’s already bad enough, Doesn’t matter that you’re stupid enough to believe whatever Tucker Carlson tells you. You’re already dangerous enough.

R49, First, you are assuming these people are literate enough to speak precisely, and second that people text in grammatically correct sentences, and third that there is gas to turn on in the Capital, or fourth that when you throw a gas grenade you “turn it on”.

Common sense tells you they probably aren’t speaking literally. They are simply urging their troops forward, which is bad enough.

[quote]members had masks stashed under their seats

That explains why Matt Gaetz had one, I thought he'd kept his own from that stupid COVID mask stunt a year ago.

R22, two cops who gave interviews to the press said that they didn't shoot because they had confiscated so many guns already they knew everyone there was armed to the teeth, and it would become a bloodbath if cops started shooting first. They were just trying to keep it from becoming a free-for-all where everyone was shooting everyone else, they really felt like it was seconds away from that happening, and of course cops were outnumbered, they would have been slaughtered.

R54, he says "seal them in" then "turn on gas." It's not the equivalent of "turn up the heat." Stop doubling down on something so stupid, you made a mistake, just move on.

[R55]: “This explains why Matt Gaetz had one.”

So, was Gaetz in on the plan? Donning a gas mask because he knew he’d need one?

Gaetz is also one of those who gave “tours” of the Capitol on Jan. 5.

They need to fry. If the Germans had dealt with Hitler's beer hall putsch we wouldn't have to deal with with this beer belly putsch.

What else is going to come out? Mitt makes me think they have seen more of this, considering his most recent statement.

Are we going to get more info on these tours? I need to know who gave the tours. Names, please.

It's probably Trumpian plants in the DOJ and the FBI who are pushing for leniency so that the MAGA foot soldiers have no incentive to rat on their helpers in the Congress and the Senate.

Well I'd like to know a bit more about "this is what we fucking trained for"...

“Beer belly putsch” is brilliant, r59!

These people are out of their minds and shouldn't be on the loose.

Trump campaign discreetly financed the rape of the Capitol.

is that Mick Mulvaney's wife?

Qanon are called the New Nazis for a reason. A lot of their propaganda is based on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. They tweaked the racism and started targeting Black people solely to gain more followers. It was the hook. Anti Gay and Lesbian propaganda was added. High status Black people as well as high profile gay and lesbian have all been targeted by Qanon. Degeneres, Tiegen, Markle, Oprah. The anti Semetic followers were given The jews that run Hollywood are pedos hook. This was pumped out through the two blind gossip sites. The Gas comments aren't a suprise. And tabloids and rightwing media are involved. Parler proves it.

2 women at my job seriously think Tom Hanks is someone high up in a pedo ring. They really believe this stuff

And within the first 5 minutes of meeting them, they will tell you at least twice that they are christians (pentecostal baptists)

As I watched this unfold on TV, I was wondering why a mechanized infantry regiment wasn’t mowing these MAGA pricks down, Tiananmen Square-style. “Hey, your 2nd Amendment rights are going to be so useful against these 120mm cannon rounds that we start hurling at you!”

So what went wrong. Why wasn't the takeover successful.

Because when the person who controls those units wants the insurrection to be successful, he won’t put up resistance.

The National Guard was told to stand down on trumps’s orders.

R72 is a reply to r70.

Her episode of *One Step Beyond*...

oops

[quote]Federal law enforcement officials are privately debating whether they should decline to charge some of the individuals who stormed the U.S. Capitol this month

This would not even be a thought if these individuals were black. They would all be prosecuted.

Are you kidding? If they were majority black, they would have all been mowed down by the police and national guard the day it happened.

Most of these people who participated in this attempted insurrection (and that's exactly what it was) were white, so they were fine.

And we all know it.

{R59}, {R68} Agreed. It’s all right there in recorded history. What you describe seems less paranoid fantasy, and more reality, by the day. The Republican Party gets more terrifying everyday. Especially post insurrection. If what happened at the Capitol isn’t a wake-up call for the so -called “moderates” in the midst, I don’t know what would be. And it’s pure, unadulterated racism, and/or, white fragility.

When I see the likes of Rand Paul screaming in defence of the party status quo I start to lose hope for all of us. If your entire energy is wasted on whining about how hard-done-by the GOP is right now, instead of ACTIVELY doing everything in your power to purge the extremists in your midst, well... I have no words really.

In tandem with everything else, that Qanon psychopaths like Marjorie Taylor Greene are in Congress and not frothing at the mouth on some street corner, should trouble us all deeply. This woman is as extremist in her views as any historical Nazi right out of the 1930s. She and her ilk need to be purged immediately. The Republicans that are standing by and letting this happen are running the risk of being the “good Germans” who stood by and let the Holocaust happen. And history doesn’t differentiate. All of Germany of the 30’s and 40’s is “Nazi Germany”.

Before the 55-45 vote, I thought there were more than five Republican Senators with heart and spine left. I honestly did. I didn't expect all of them to vote for Impeachment but for only five?

Until then, as a Democrat and an American I could stand up for moderate Republican ideals. I wanted to work with them. Not Trumpers, never, EVER Trumpers.

Now, other than those five, I know where they all stand. They are spineless, shiteating, unAmerican Trumper white supremacists. Every one of them. It's good to know. Depressing, but good.

Back on topic, I hope every last one of these seditious shitbags fry in their own body armor. May they rot in hell.

These GOP cunts are terrified if what will come out if they start throwing the book at these terrorists.

Those scumbags will flip like pancakes to get lighter sentences and throw them, fat Donnie and his brats and that mercer cunt under the bus.