Armie Hammer Scandal: New accuser comes forward and claims Armie Hammer raped her

Get a hobby you insane cunt.

I remember when people on Datalounge and Switch_GA harassed Armie's supposed girlfriends and gave them sexist and degrading names like Baby Paige and Desert Barbie (Courtney).

That was like two people doing that.

R3

Don't lie. The evidence is archived. I forgot DD (Desert Dana) and CJ (Crazy J). Vile people everywhere and now they pretend they've always been allies and supporting his victims...

Was not a fan of the nicknames, but in their defense that was when Armie was just running around the desert with new girlfriends every week. Nobody knew he was raping, abusing and/or trying to eat them.

Notice none of the girls will give a direct answer when asked if he’s bi.....interesting.

R6

I agree. That's sus. They always imply the people asking are dumb Charmies as if he wasn't rumored to fuck Kristoffer Polaha and the Ramsey brothers for years.

R7 What? That was one deranged person who kept spamming Armie threads with that shit, there have never been any legitimate gay rumors about him.

The man rapes multiple women and these fangirls are still obsessed over whether he has consensual sex with men.

This is why people hate fangirls.

Wait, last time I checked DL, Hammer was supposed to be gay

R10 who says he's not a self hating gay who assaults women because he hates them. Raping women is for attraction, it's for power. He's probably been submissive to one too many casting agents. Hey, wasn't the artist friend a casting agent?

^^ is NOT about attraction.

My personal theory is that something about fangirls has so traumatized them to the idea of heterosexuality, that they rely on fantasy male pairings as the only outlet in which to process their own sexual desires. They are not affected by the revelations that Armie is a violent rapist of women, because they cannot even process the idea of his heterosexuality, because the actual heterosexual act repulses them so much.

There have been plenty of closeted men who prey on women. Particularly ones with mommy issues.

R13 These are also his alleged women victims. Who says there aren't male victims? Men rarely confess to this sort of business.

See as we can see by R14/R15, these women cannot even empathize with the female rape victims so they have to create imaginary male victims.

I would not be surprised if many of these fangirls have never masturbated. They are so repulsed by their own sexual organ.

*Trump voice* Sad!

R16 Why are you so worried about his sexuality? He was married to a woman, idiot. Everyone knows he can fuck one, he's got 2 kids. Doesn't mean he's not bisexual or closeted. Are you sheltered?

What is robe bondage?

Because R17, to accuse a violent male rapist of latent homosexuality based on nothing, is incredibly homophobic and insulting to gay peoples. And this is a gay message board.

R19 oh my god. Get a life. Being closeted is psychologically damaging to people which is totally relevant on a gay forum. Many serial rapists have had sexuality confusion.

there is no indications he is gay. those rumors were never even rumors to begin with. and what the fuck does that have to do with him violating women? some people seriously seem to be interested to derail the accusations, that's what it is about and not "sexuality confusion", jfc

Well you obviously also have sexuality confusion. Maybe you are also confessing to being a serial rapist as well!

R22 was meant for the idiot at R20

DLers stop trying to make exclusively attractive straight guys be secretly gay happen, is not going to happen!

Armie, Henry, Leo, Timmy... and the non-delusional DLers will appreciate it.

R21-23 Relax psycho. If you're upset people speculate that he's gay you should probably got to the het forums.

He's a campy, fem, closet case, alleged rapist.

R24 LMAO Armie is that you? "Exclusively attractive?" That fat fug?

This insane obsession with this guy is beyond belief.

Oh the psychotic frau troll who posts obsessively about him being a closeted gay bottom is back. FF and block.

How is this even a discussion? The guy said in a vulture interview that he fall in love with his male director. None of his victims say he's 100% straight. An alleged girlfriend on here stated said he was a known bisexual as a teenager.

Wonder who leaked the video to the DM?

One of the victims confirmed he has a tiny pecker.

The headlines should say "small docked, D listed actor, obsessed with anal sex, allegedly rapes 200+ women.

Yeah, you guys never talk about, I don’t know, Jack Black being gay R26.

And I have seen a screenshot posted here about the Q&A of one of the girls and she assured that he was 100% straight, at least with her. So yes, at least one of them have addressed that question.

Armie was fucking gay according to DL 1 month ago! People here claiming they had proofs like they do with Henry. With all the shit that came out, you really don’t think a male lover would have spoken out if it would have happened? Being gay is the best thing that could happen to him right now. Stop with your delusions for real, not healthy and tiring as fuck!!

This gossip is juicy but if all of you delusional bitches start speculating about him being gay with 0 proof, in a totally unrelated thread, you are going to make this thread boring like most of the threads dedicated to male celebrities.

So please stop, there are hundreds of threads about “closete” celebrities.

No one is saying he is gay. People are saying he is a closeted bisexual. Huge difference.

R34 Read the thread

Sorry, but the fact that they aren’t directly answering the question about his sexuality makes sense to me. How would they know for ~sure about that? It’s not their freaking question to answer, and it’s clearly only Charmies asking anyway.

(For the record, I personally don’t think there’s any evidence he’s anything but straight.)

not any hints or proof he is gay or bisexual but lots of proof he is a het abuser and rapist. so why don't we just stay on topic and let the weirdo fangirls dwell in their fantasies that he only did the things he did because the poor lad is a closeted gay lol. aww, poor armie, he is just not in touch with his true sexuality y'all

That's why I am against the feminist myth about rape being all about power, not sex. It's both. While men do take advantage of unequal social structures, where they prey on women if lower standing (i.e., prostitutes), it's not as if it's all about power. It's just easier to get away with and the upper classes look away because it's not their daughters.

It's like sacrificial lambs being offered. If rape had nothing to do with sex, they wouldn't have to use rape. There's plenty of ways of having power over someone. It's a mix of both.

And I agree with the poster offended about the gay speculation. There's something off putting about assuming abusive men are in the closet. Do not claim these loser hets.

R36 Of course they won't answer unless he's invited a third party, how would they know. They might get a vibe but that's irrelevant to their situation. But being a rapist doesn't mean you are heterosexual. That's nonsense. Rape is about humiliation and power. He could be raping women and bottoming in secret. They aren't allowed to know about his other exploits.

He’s twisted for real.

Cancel him like a bad tv show.

R38 Ridiculous nonsense stfu. We thought he was a closet case long before we thought he was a rapist.

Whatever he is he is a creep. 100%.

R37

I get what you're saying. I'm not implying that queerness is related to cannibalism, or abusing women. It's just that there have been rumors about Armie being a rapist for many years. Just as there are have been rumors about him being bi. Even before cmbyn.

I think he was literally in love with Luca. The fact he brought these women to him was probably his way of offering a threesome.

[Quote] People here claiming they had proofs like they do with Henry.

I like that she confirmed Armie talked shit about him.

There’s no proof that he is into guys. Now that we know that he’s a twisted rapist, why would you want him on the team?

R43 none of this is new. Someone here feels threatened for some reason that this man might be not straight. His life is one big lie and cover. He married a woman he didn't even to seem to be able to get it up for except the rare occasions he impregnated her. He also seemed to only be attracted with violent sex with women. There have been rumors circulating around his sexuality for years. None of this is that extraordinary.

[quote]Someone here feels threatened for some reason that this man might be not straight.

No we feel OFFENDED that you are trying to pawn off one of YOUR rapists on us.

R46 I don't claim this creep even if he wasn't an alleged rapist. Why are you so bothered?

Is the thread open to posts from non-subscribers again or why is it getting messy so quick with people just repeating the same thing over and over?

R46

There is no team. People aren't being shamed because they share the same sexuality with someone. It's not a big deal. We will find out eventually why he talks like a big queen and is obsessed with acting hypermasculine and is sharing his "conquests" with his friends online as if he wants to convince them of what a great man he is.

The authorities need to find his destroyed telephones and see what crimes he recorded.

R51 unless he OD's and dies then we won't

But what men has he been linked with? Asking for a friend.

R51 You raise a good point. A man with a small cock too bragging about his lay. He's got loads of issues. Who followed the finsta?

[Quote] Is the thread open to posts from non-subscribers again

Yes it is.

The general public has moved on from this story. Even on gossip sites no one cares that much. People think he’s a creep with weird fetishes but the rape claims haven’t been widely disseminated

R54 What women have been? Besides his wife there weren't any before his victims started revealing he was with them.

He has many issues. What do we think, sociopathic?

R57 He's boring, even in his scandals.

This feels like the real-world version of what’s happening on every stupid woke TV show right now: the waspy blond is ALWAYS the villain.

The only place these stories have traction are here, Lipstick Alley, and some nobody accounts on Instagram. And it’s all the same ten people posting on all three places trying to keep the story alive.

NECROPHILIA

He is innocent until proven guilty

A guy I'm texting with his fantasizing about killing and eating me. Whatever should I do?

A) Block person

B) Report him to the police

C) Pretend everything is fine and keep texting him because he's so hot

The obvious answer is C, of course!

R64, in Dataloungeland, yes.

I'm always annoyed when people act like dumbasses in scary movies, because it's so unrealistic. Turns out they're even dumber in real life.

I guess he only picks the dumbest ones, because smart women would just laugh and block him immediately.

Well OP - Your shiny new thread is a shit storm.

LMAO

R58 Sociopathic at the very least as well as narcissistic violent sadist.

I'm sorry you may think I'm crazy but I think he is responsible for some of his "fan" ig accounts. Particularly @armiehammer.fp, take a look at some of the captions with what we now know some are very dark and sinister. Look at the post in the tan leather jacket "he's so bad but he does it so well" or the new years eve cap post "happy new year to this dead eyed boy". What sort of fan would write that? There's lots of posts that have dark double meanings and that nut Tyler Ramsey wrote on the post where he has the drink on the beach at Christmas. Take a look see what you think. Also it hasn't been updated since he went IG quiet.

R67 I meant shit show!!!

R66, they’re dumb and thirsty. He must be promising film parts or something in exchange for sexual favors.

[quote] Because [R17], to accuse a violent male rapist of latent homosexuality based on nothing

Right, because those of us that checkin on this odious creature once in awhile and sort of see a connection between, oh I don’t know, him raping and wanting to harm, scar, mutilate women, and kill women AND him being a self-hating closeted gay/bisexual man are just nuts, right?

I must be fingering my cunt as I type this and don’t even know it.

It’s so obvious to me it’s almost blinding. He feels forced by the pressures of his career and family to be a ladies man, so he takes out his repressed rage out on these women - and this applies whether he’s a closeted gay or bisexual.

Did r71 write the screenplays for WINDOWS and BASIC INSTINCT?

Or even CRUISING?

R71 R72 Why would a man desperate to stay in the closet spend so much time gay-baiting his fans?

The GP assumed he was happily married - there was no pressure to be a ladies man

T74 Oh honey, there’s pressure.

Where’s the grand jury? I need an indictment.

[quote] I must be fingering my cunt as I type this and don’t even know it

No honey, as I said before, I don’t think you finger your cunt at ALL. I think you’re traumatized and disgusted by your own vagina.

R68 He definitely is responsible for some of his fan accounts. Maybe the armiehammerappreciation one too. They always got the insider information and exclusive pictures. He gives me needy vibes. That AHA account doesn't have any pictures with Timmy Chalamet.

What happened to Nick, the Italian friend? Is he the one who stole the video from finsta?

Nikiwonder deleted his IG some time ago, he may have sensed shit was about to go down.

R71 I agree with this diagnosis. He is a miserable, fucked up man. You can see it on his punchable face.

It's been two weeks since Effie started posting private DMs and accused him of raping her. Another one has come forward yesterday.

Can someone explain to me why they don't go the police even though everyone already knows about it?

Are they afraid they might lose their fame/ victim card if the charges get dropped?

R80 Thanks. Is there a way if telling who follows the Finsta?

R82 = Why won't these women BE QUIET!!!

Court cases take a long time and the aim here seems to be to try to stop whatever is happening first.

Try thinking - it helps.

R82 Going to the police would deprive us of knowing this juicy gossip. It might not see the light of day. I hope they continue. Then charge him. This way the world knows. If any of this was lies, he would sue. No way would an innocent man let this go unchecked or leave paid work. He must be guilty.

R13 Or the more simple option - pretending the object of their fantasies is gay explains why he isn't with them, and stops them from having to feel jealous of the women he is with.

R46 Because the only people who make believe he's gay are the fraus, so they don't care about the team because they aren't part of it.

R82 There are things going on in the background. These women are coming forward to warn others (he apparently is still doing this) and one way to do that is to keep awareness high.

R77 I don’t have a vagina, dear. There goes your theory!

And I certainly don’t want the subject of this thread to be gay or bisexual - the heteros can keep him, please - but I’m noting what seems obvious to me.

[quote] Can someone explain to me why they don't go the police even though everyone already knows about it?

Because there’s nothing actionable for the police to do. That’s not an indication of guilt or innocence, rather that all they have is he said/she said.

This stuff has been out there for a long while, since at least last spring and nothing has happened. No lawsuits, no charges, etc. Tgat should tell you something.

Never forget that he hasn't denied any of it and lost paid work because of it.

[quote]He has many issues. What do we think, sociopathic?

I would have made a "No, Rose" joke about this but I remembered that she subscribed to the Journal of Abnormal Psychology (because it was published in St. Olaf) and would have easily identified him as a sociopath.

R83

I'm actually saying the opposite.

Their aim is to release all the evidence before they can charge him with a crime?

Maybe they should try thinking for a change? I don't know.

R92 There are so many women that not all of them have to go down the legal route which is slow and not guaranteed to do anything.

This hybrid approach means EVERYONE knows his shit - there will be cases later I'm sure.

How did they get Cosby on decades-old allegations? Seems like there is more irrefutable evidence here.

This is the best plan because it exposes his ass. Nobody decent would go near him now. Not that they wanted anything to do with him before. If someone tries to connect themselves to him people will just fall back to reviving the DMs like they do the toe video. But this time producers will have to listen because it's too salacious. Keeping it as gossip hurts him more. Plus the longer the draw it out he can't move on with his defence. Lmao.

CALLING ALL INCEST SURVIVING WOMEN TO THIS THREAD!!! Project your Daddy Shame onto someone else.

R96 Armie? What's with the full caps meltdown?

Why the fuck is everyone arguing over whether he’s gay or not? He rapes women and eats fucking human flesh! Ain’t that enough for you?

R93

I'm not saying that all of them need to go down the legal route. I'm just asking for one.

I just want justice and I'm confused why people would support these women to do nothing. He has lost out on one movie role, but his other movies are right on track.

R95 Exactly. Its kind of genius really. He can't respond because he doesn't know who he is dealing with and what evidence they have.

She's blown Charmie up, undermined his BLM woke credentials and shut down his pet media stooge at GQ.

Even his Twitter stans have shut up

R99 It takes time.

Once a proper expose is done is a 'quality' newspaper the authorities will have to act.

R101

Those "lower quality" newspapers have millions more readers than the "quality" newspapers. I also don't think a "Times" article would automatically result in a criminal charge.

More details from Paige in the Sun. He carved the "A" on her pubic bone! I want to know why the hell did she let him

R103

I want to know too. I don't accept "love bombing" or "manipulation" or whatever buzzwords they come up with from a grown woman with a sound mind.

For me all this makes him loads more interesting than the bland whiteness that he was, I say pile on the kink and no shaming. As for kids, who needs those dead beat ones he had with that harpy who works to turn them against there father every day, he can spend the next three decades having more than he can support of he wants.

R105 before he was bland and creepy now he's creepy and and alleged rapist. Oh and still boring. Cool.

R104 Doesn't he hogtie them? Plus she's tiny, he's an alleged 6'5" rapist. Who says she let him?

R99 What movies? Do you think they're going to make that Mads one? LMAO. He's now got the Fantastic Beast gig. I'm sure that's not happening and the Paramount film is Armie's family friend. But just watch how the actors will start to opt out, one by one.

R107

She said she let him in the article.

R99

Death on The Nile, Crisis, and Next Goal Wins are all still happening. Once they're out I don't think anyone will opt out from his other projects.

R104 I totally agree. I also want to see Effies texts. Why the hell she only letting us see TD's. She took part in this shit for 4 god damn years. I'm not excusing his behavior but hell she isn't innocent. There doesn't seem to be any morals or standards anywhere.

[quote] Death on The Nile, Crisis, and Next Goal Wins are all still happening. Once they're out I don't think anyone will opt out from his other projects.

DotN got moved to September. NGW doesn’t have a release date yet. Both are Disney properties (NGW is under Fox Searchlight) so both could end up on Hulu since Disney is now doing that with some of its adult theatrical releases, like Nomadland.

Still plenty of time for this all to either heat up or die down. His part is NGW is said to be really minor, but he’s a lead in DotN.

R111 Will be interesting to see if he gets Christopher Plummered in any if the completed films.

R109 LMAO as if he doesn't stink up those films? If he had talent he might get some love but he doesn't even have his good name anymore. He's also not the star so he will be forgettable in his bad to average performance. Therefore, no one will care he was in these films just that he is an alleged rapist, cannibal. Lmao

R105 is that you, Armie?

Certainly sounds sociopathic enough.

Also all his films are going to be trash like Rebecca, who are we kidding?

R113

Yes, but we were talking about whether this scandal has ruined his career. He's been getting roles for 10 years despite being an average actor.

R116 that was before he was an accused rapist/cannibal.

R114 feels obtuse enough to be him.

Sooner or later he's bound to crack and start rage-tweeting again...

R111 Death on the Nile is produced by Ridley Scott who was responsible for replacing Kevin Spacey with Christopher Plummer in All the Money In the World

So it's a safe bet that he will probably be recast and have his scenes reshot.

DeuxMoi posted some gossip to that effect.

I wonder if there's a Hollywood playbook for how long you have to keep a low profile after being accused of rape?

If you know the role he plays in DotN r120, that’s going to be rather tricky to do. This isn’t like Plummer’s ten minutes of screen time like in the Scott film. Not impossible but not really worth the hassle or expense for Disney either.

Did she use a safe word to indicate she wanted him to stop when tied up because saying no and stop is part of it.

I read the texts and not making excuses for him, in fact I tuned out to Armie when I heard Cannibalisms and read no other threads, but I was into Bondage and you needed to use safe word to end the session because saying stop was part of it. I mean if I was tied up I usually expected sex. Depends on your relationship. I heard of people that just wanted to go through the motions of BDSM and it wasn't sexual but I was always expecting it. And if it got unpleasant or you weren't into it then you HAD to use safe word picked earlier so that STOP or NO, was understood.

R120

If they recast his character and reshot his scenes we'd already know about it. There's no time.

R124 wtf do you mean there's no time? DOTN has a tentative fall release date and it's January 21.

[quote] wtf do you mean there's no time?

Do you understand how film production works? How reshoots work? You’ve got to corral every necessary person back in for several weeks (and it will take at least weeks because the character is a lead)— and that’s after quarantining, that’s after sorting out scheduling conflicts, that’s after making sure you can secure the the locations. Then there’s all the post production work to be redone, the adr, the marketing materials to be changed, etc.

It’s be easier for Disney to just dump it quietly on Hulu and take the loss than reshoot.

R105 There is something seriously wrong with you.

Was not expecting this tiny nugget of levity

Oh hell no 😂

Bitches be like “call me by your name” and the name be Hannibal lector #ArmieHammer

It won't matter that he's in any of these films lbh he's thoroughly wooden, no one will notice him or recognize him as the alleged cannibal/rapist unless he tries to self promote like he usually does. Then the people will let him have it.

He’s not the lead in Death on the Nile.

Can someone summarize what happened on LSA regarding the rape allegation? I’m not fishing through a million pages there and it looks like the original post about it is gone.

Someone posted a rape allegation about Armie Hammer back last summer on LSA. The post was removed by that board’s moderators.

R132 The person on LSA alleged that her friend was raped by Armie after he met her on tinder. Yesterday a woman on instagram said that she was the woman who allegedly got raped, but the tinder story was fake to hide her identity. Her account is "milkandhoneyroses"

“That’s what we’re doing. And then we’re highlighting the little, like vein-like things that are in the cabbage print ...”

😂🤣😂🤣😂

Um, I hadn’t read them...

Omg I'm crap and can't link but the Daily Mail coverage of Paige's story has a ghoulish AF photo of her with Mommy Dru and Armie with a douchebag mustache. I guess Dru got over her exorcism phase...

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I wonder how Dru will show her face in Dallas society again.

R138 Turns out the rumor that Armie was riding around with a topless woman was true.

Also his mother seemed awfully fine with his new girlfriend even though the divorce isn't even through. Great Christian values.

Jesus.

Effie appears to be implying that GQ Jonathan Heaf was abusing women and sharing photos of it

Wonder how long will Mrs hammer stay away from her Instagram for. She’s probably dying being unable to remind everyone every day how perfect her life is

This thread stinks of cunt. Pearl clutching. Fucking idiots.

JFC!

Who gives a flying fuck about thos douche bag or his BDSM shit?

Never get tied up by a stranger, ladies. Unless you hire a dom, do NOT get into this shit before three months of dating. This is shit you do with someone you trust, not some random heir/movie star.

If he raped her, she needs to file formal charges. Period, end of. This is a SERIOUS crime, not some shit you post on social media.

R142 Why is she going after this unimportant GQ typist instead of going to the fucking police because of Hammer???

Honestly I'm calling fake until she moves her ass to the police. This shit is all for attention now.

R143 While I see your total lack of compassion, I am here to tell you that today is some sort of custody hearing. Who knows what the outcome will be, but you may get your Liz update today.

R142 Or she might be implying TD sent him pictures? Its not clear.

He's still private lol

R142 is that you Chanel?

I don’t understand why they don’t press charges. And they don’t respond when someone asks them if they are going to press charges.

They’re all out of their minds, him, them, the ex wife, the family

Apparently Armie’s aunt wrote a memoir and accused her brother (Michael Hammer) and her father of rape.

I don’t even think Robert Towne could have come up with these plot twists.

did she file police report ? or is she waiting for a payday?

[quote] This thread stinks of cunt.

😂🤣😂🤣

Ugh, I've never understood the endless threads about this man on here. Guess he's like D'onofrio, or Gyllenhaal.

Armie is a good looking man of mediocre talent. At least Vincent and Jake can act.

I'm not a fan of Hammer, but just reading the thread titles it's clear he has mental health and addiction issues that he desperately needs to address.

Hope he gets some help.

Guess she’s waiting for him to pay her so she doesn’t go to the police

Did Dru meet BP ?? At this point then I'm really on Liz's side. I have never liked her but it is now clear that the whole TD family is not on her side. I hope that the divorce will be able to take away all of them as much money as possible.

R146 You're calling it fake.

Wow. Pretty definitive. CASE CLOSED.

If only you were someone of power and influence instead of a just a basic bitch on a gossip site lol.

The screenshots from the book are posted in the above link now, she accuses Michael Hammer of making her masturbate him when she was a child.

This is like a horror movie unfolding in real time.

I’m falling down this rabbit hole:

The interview was packaged as a rare, candid conversation with a movie star about his mental health struggles. A man who supposedly had it all—looks, breeding, a successful career on the silver-screen—was admitting that appearances can be deceiving. And he wanted the whole world to know he was having a hard time. Why? So that others in a similar position would feel inspired to seek help.

So humble. So brave.

Looking back, it's clear the interview represented a calculated attempt by a well-oiled publicity machine to prop up the 6'5" oil heir as a hero, lest he be exposed as a monster.

By September 2020, many of Armie's alleged DMs were already ricocheting across social media. In fact, they'd gone somewhat viral on July 15, following his divorce announcement.

What Armie's reputation needed, asap, was a good old-fashioned scrubbing—something to show that, whatever his demons, he was addressing them. Armie was doing the work.

And boy, did GQ UK come through for our leading man. It even put him on the cover of the November 2020 issue, all broody and soulful and wanting to open up about his pain, man.

But why did Armie's team go all the way to the United Kingdom in search of the ideal publication through which to launder his image?

This is where things get interesting.

Armie's mental health cover story was written and packaged by GQ UK's Chief Content Officer, Jonathan Heaf. It marked the second occasion both men worked together in less than two years: Armie had graced the March 2019 cover of the magazine—the accompanying profile of the actor was written by Heaf.

It's not exactly unheard of for celebrity coverage to be cloyingly sycophantic. But Heaf's 2019 article? Never before had a glossy magazine printed a rim job quite like this one.

He takes great pains to let the reader know that he really likes Armie Hammer:

[quote]It’s easy to want to be friends with Hammer. You can kind of tell, right? I swooned, plus he’s terrific company.

He really, really likes Armie Hammer:

[quote]"Did I tell you how much I like Armie Hammer? Well, let me tell you again: it’s very easy to like Armie Hammer."

It's a familiar experience—you become infatuated with someone, and you want to talk about how great they are to anyone who will listen.

[quote]"I am compelled to tell Chalamet what I feel compelled to tell you: about the sheer decency of Hammer as a human being."

Anything else you told Armie's co-star about Armie, Jonathan?

[quote]"I tell him that I believe there is something noble about his friend, mentor and colleague. Not noble as in a sense of hierarchy or blue-bloodedness, but more in a decent, gallant, chivalrous way."

Geez, man. It sounds like you started to worship Armie Hammer. I hope you didn't go even further overboard with the compliments, because they might look embarrassing in retrospect.

Ah, well. Nevertheless.

You should've listened to your role model, Jonathan. He wasn't wrong.

The question is, Why? What the hell happened to make a journalist become so chummy with his interview subject? (Beyond the obvious lack of professionalism, of course.)

Unfortunately for Jonathan, he might not be in a position to answer this. There's that pesky lack of professionalism, for one. While the interview with Armie Hammer was technically supposed to be a "work" thing, Jonathan ended up getting drunk. Very, very drunk. So drunk he doesn't remember how he got home. So drunk he barely recalls the evening he spent on the company dime, "interviewing" Armie Hammer.

I'm not making this up. Jonathan Heaf, Chief Content Officer of GQ UK, spent half the article talking about how hungover he was the day after the interview. Half the article. Surely, nobody who leafed through the March 2019 issue of GQ UK looking for the Armie Hammer profile gives a rat about Jonathan Heaf's hangover. I'm not sure anybody in the world would be interested in reading these many words about Jonathan Heaf. Not even his mother. Yet here we are.

There's another reason we are unlikely to ever get an answer for why Jonathan Heaf loves Armie Hammer so much. The reason is because the two men share a secret. A salacious secret. A secret so juicy and hilarious, the two men can't help joking about it on Twitter.

Oh man, you really had to be there. It was a bonding moment between two dads. (Yes, both men are fathers.) It even got immortalized in a very funny photo! Jonathan loves talking about "THE PHOTO." But he won't let you see it. No, sir. It's a secret photo. A secret photo related to an even secreter secret shared between Jonathan Heaf and Armie Hammer.

And let him tell you, Jonathan Heaf is very, very relieved that his secret is safe with Armie Hammer. So safe he can play coy about it in the pages of the magazine that employs him.

If you see Armie Hammer out on the street, looking tall and noble, ask him. Ask Hammer the actor what happened to him and the British journalist after the Martini session in the Sunset Tower Hotel bar in November last year. Walk up to him. Say hi. Smile. Wave. Talk. Engage in a conversation. He’ll like that. Be nice. Be civil. Be a bit more, well, be a bit more Armie. I mean, he probably won’t tell you. Why not? Well, he’s Armie Hammer, isn’t he? It wouldn’t be gracious. It would make you laugh like hell, sure, but it wouldn’t be loyal. It wouldn’t be decent. And, you know, we could all do with being a bit more Armie Hammer sometimes. Right, Armie?"

If you've made it this far (first of all—thank you), you may be wondering whether I'm being too harsh on poor old Jonathan Heaf. How was he supposed to know his utterly decent, supremely loyal friend Armie Hammer would turn out to be a sadistic psychopath? Jonathan Heaf is probably just as freaked out as we all are. Right?

On Thursday, Heaf uploaded a photograph to his Instagram grid, of himself wearing a flashy tracksuit. If the tracksuit looks familiar, it's probably because you've seen Armie Hammer wear it on the pages of GQ UK.

And in the comments of his dapper tracksuit insta pic, Jonathan Heaf, Chief Content Officer of GQ UK, wrote, "cut me, I bleed breakfast wine 🍷"

[Damning links at Reddit below]

These Hammer folks are all fucked up in THE HEADS. 🧠🍆.

This is obvioulsy a case for Columbo and his pal, Baretta's bird.

R152 the more I think about this they shouldn't do anything yet. Keep him and his fans sweating the outcome.

Honestly I don't really care if Hammer suffers so much as his fans. I love their pain.

R160 He's on their payroll. The Hammers own the mag in some clandestine way. Dylan Jones is also a minion.

So Armie could have conceivably been molested by his father and grandfather and Dru turned a blind eye to protect a meal ticket.

You bitches probably know all about this Reddit but I am neither a fan nor a frequenter of these threads, so it’s all new to me.

What a fucking rabbit hole...

Armie Hammer Receipts

Have you found a receipt that they're going to the police and press charges, or is this just for the lolz again?

I don’t think any of them want to press charges and some still seem to want him to love them. They’re like the NXIVM girls in a cult

How are the tapatalk assholes fairing? Any suicides?

R168 who knew you could get such willing harem with a micro dick.

R168 The operative word being [italic]some[/italic]. There’s obviously a mixture of true victims, liars, those that want to move forward legally, and those that don’t want to move forward due to trauma. This is a complex situation and in the end, American Psycho has money, some level of power, and dedicated sycophants, I’m sure, that are willing to appease him however he sees fit.

What a fucked up story. I won’t be surprised if the details that continue to emerge from this only get worse.

Why are they calling Dru Paige’s mom? Lol

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[quote]What a fucked up story. I won’t be surprised if the details that continue to emerge from this only get worse.

I think he molested his children.

R173 you’re like two weeks late 😂😂😂

R175 Yeah. where did all these locals come from?

R176 end of constant prime time ? Reddit? I dunno but it makes for a tiring shit show

Is he gonna get blacklisted like Kevin Spacey?

Nope because he’s not a gay man nor a man who has been proven guiltily in court like Weinstein or Cosby. Only gays get thrown to the wolves over unprovable baseless gossip even if it is 3+ decade old!!

I go away for like a day and Hammer fangirls almost take over his dl thread 😂

R175 I just fell down this rabbit hole but have gripped the vines running down the side of it and am climbing back out.

As I was wrapping up my little perusal of that Reddit I posted above, I stumbled upon his dance scene in [italic]Call Me By Your Name[/italic] and I was suddenly struck by the strangest combination of melancholy, disgust, and certainty; a certainty of the fact that darkness truly exists and slinks and lurks all around us without the slightest notice.

R179 the fan girls, and the “no he IS CLOSETED” troll 🙄

R181 the whole cast came back today. I wonder what set them off😂

R178

Well Spacey made the mistake of apologizing i.e. admitting guilt. Hammer did none of that and since no woman is pressing charges his career is fine.

R183, Kevin Sapcey did not admit guilt because he (according to Rapp’s story) was blackout drunk at the time 34 years ago and couldn’t remember it.

His statement was similar to James Franco’s. Only Franco’s was praised as being genuine. Clearly that’s because he’s straight.

R181 I must ask, what is the basis for your certainty that he is not in the closet? I am really curious.

And this is just China 👇🏼

Jfc.

Just food for thought...

Effie's dad is coming for the cannibal.

R182 it must be everything they’ve wanted to say the last two weeks but couldn’t bc prime time, (instead of, you knowing, just paying for a month, so they didn’t have to repeat shit that’s been discussed for days already)

R188 yes we know lol

R187 Hammer walks like he's had miles of cock up him and is clearly repressing something. He also hates women and stalks Henry Cavill. Closeted? You don't say.

R188 Is her dad a cop or a lawyer? If not maybe he can convince her to go to the police and turn a rape allegation into something real.

R192 I think she said Marines. He's going to beat the fug to a pulp.

Ha now Courtney's implicating the Fat One in her stories as 'an enabler'. At least it's an upgrade from handler!

R166 Hell I just read Reddit from your link. Michael Hammer accused of raoing his own sister? Wtf! I always thought he was an only child though? Also accused of almost raping a 12 yo when he was 18, tho obviously nothing proved, everything is allegedly 🤮

Frau Cunts love to ruin men on Twitter because their histrionics can run wild without being subject to the scrutiny of a court of law, where they would have to stick to the facts. Nuance of confusion is the name of the game.

Armie you're not supposed to use a thesaurus on every single word. It doesn't sound human.

R196 Exciting isn't it?

R196 Armie that's the third or fourth time you've posted here today. Just tell us your side of the story, man!!

Effie is also piling on the Fat One and claims he helped Armie get random BJs behind dumpsters (I guess the Fat One was allowed to watch?)

I mean why go to the police when you can talk shit about his friends and entertain your newly gained audience?

R200 Or was she referring to that other a**hole, Tyler? His literal married brother.

R202 it has to be Tyler lolz

Lol Charmie simpi needs to calm down and then get a real job with real people who work in a real team setting

Timmy only came to protect the children from being eaten alive. Btw where is the other screenshot about the fat one?

I am horrified and sorry for these women - but the daily drip drip drip of salacious details, offered up to us random people in the world for shock and awe, is starting to feel attention-seeking rather than constructive. I’m glad we all know what we know now, because maybe it will hamper his ability to harm new unsuspecting victims. But at some point enough is enough, go to the police. Or file a civil suit. We the public now know every gory detail. Anything née is a variation in existing themes. It’s time for either legal action, or private healing. Or a combination of the two. At this point, I’m much less shocked by the newest gnarly screen grabs of the day, than I am by the lack of constructive action.

Use the Reddit link at R166. They are saying J Heaf is deleting Armie related tweets. Some say something else might be about to come out and JH knows ??

R206 You don't know every gory detail.

There's much more to come yet.

The fact that she hasn't gone to the police yet is very suspicious. Either she has been complicit in doing something illegal like drugs, or a threesome with a minor or she isn't the person in the DMs.

He should post the DMs so we can finally see her messages that she carefully deleted in her screenshots.

The Hammer family is turning out to be a Raymond Chandler novel.

Or, she has and it is for something much worse.

Remember the voice message where Armie said "you have to have skin in the game too". He knows all about Russia and how they gather Kompromat so they can blackmail people. Maybe he has shit on her so she can't go to the police.

I wonder what she's done that's so terrible.

Everything is SOOOOO suspicious lol

R212 Maybe because she said he had photos of minors obviously she's known about that for a while if it's true, which makes her an accomplice

R214 Stop trying to scare her. She didn't say they were definitely minors and she might have already reported it if they were. Are you Charmies going after the fake beards? This is PR going wrong, eh Charmies?

My question is how they could have been this messy during a pandemic.

The fat one running a brothel? Is that what she means? And was Ashton giving Armie up?

Oh wait. The fat one is trying to intimidate her?

R215

This could only scare her if she had something to hide. Wouldn't you want to know about it if she was complicit in some of these horrible acts? I want to know everything and not just if it damages Hammer's reputation.

It's worse R210

They are turning out to be a James Ellroy novel.

So the latest victim is black. Is Effie black or mixed race as she looks like she has black features, anyone know? I was just wondering is he just victimising and or abusing only black girls?

R221 no Effie is not, the Russian girl is not, Paige is not, Courtney is not, etc. What exactly is your point?

R222 My SIMPLE point is what I said above. Is he just abusing black girls? Or didn't you get it? Paige, Courtney etc were girlfriends for 5 minutes not subs/slaves, Effie has black features. The Russian said she never met him in person

R223 he is clearly not. Why are you making this into a race thing? 🙄

R224 I'm not making it in to a race thing. I was just asking in case he has a vendetta against blacks, despite him publicly defending them. Nothing he says is the truth. I was wondering because he's such a twisted sadistic fuck.

R225 ah interesting. That would be interesting.

If Effie's father doesn't destroy him, Cavill's fans might. They're not keen on him talking shit about Henry.

On Reddit they are saying he killed a woman on june 16 in the Twentynine Palms area. But the thing is he was in the Cayman Islands on that date

R228 😂 they desperately want him to be a murderer, don’t they? Jfc

R228 why such a specific day? Did someone go missing that day?

Did it get deleted? I can’t find it

R225 someone should ask Effie. She's in contact with the other victims.

These Reddit people are just as delusional and hysterical as charmies now lol. I mean. Someone needs a new hobby

They posted this:

"TWENTYNINE PALMS — Deputies are looking, on the ground and from the air, for Erika Ashley Lloyd, a 37-year-old Walnut Creek resident who was reported missing on Wednesday, June 17.

Her vehicle was located abandoned near Twentynine Palms Highway in the Twentynine Palms area on Tuesday, June 16." [....]

Anyone with information regarding this case is asked to contact the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department, Morongo Basin Station at the (760) 366-4175.

It was posted here:

Thanks found it now. Is this a bunch of hysterical true crime fans? They continue saying he did it after it is noted multiple times he was still in CI 😂 I can’t.

R236 maybe Ashton did it.

Wow Armie was originally named Alexander but batshit crazy Grandpa Mobley flew to LA and told them that God told him to change it to Armand.

LOL! And now the Armand Hammer named is ruined forever because of Dru’s father. I bet Liz will even end up changing the children’s names.

Can we please go back to 24/7 prime time? Ugh.

So we have learned that Armie's aunt Casey Hammer wrote an autobiography. Here's a review from a customer on Amazon:

"We think of the super-rich as living lives of perfect happiness and unbridled pleasure. If I ever thought that, then Casey Hammer’s searing book shattered those notions for all time, The granddaughter of tycoon, Armand Hammer, she was born into a live of unimaginable wealth and privilege.

Yet, as I read this account of her childhood and growing up, [bold]I don’t know what stunned me more - the unimaginable cruelty of those around her or her endurance in the face of it. That she is still standing, seems to me, to be something of a miracle.[/bold] That she should be as full of the joy of life as she is, is a monument to her extraordinary strength and resilience and optimism."

She’s been posting pictures tagging him lately. And visiting the Hammer museum and other things in LA. Not sure if I’d randomly tag him on my selfies right now, even as a family member, but ok. Guess you gotta get that promo out somehow

"My wife says I have a frontal lobe issue. Your frontal lobe controls your danger response, like, 'Whoa, I shouldn't be doing this.' But she says it's okay, because your frontal lobe doesn't fully develop until around 30, so I have until then to get all this shit out of my system and then I need to calm down.” -AH

At first he was distracted by the L.A. party scene. "It was like a—" He pauses, for a brief moment visibly uncomfortable. "I picture my grandparents reading this article," he explains before continuing. "I'd grown up in a household of so much love and so much good, everything just felt wholesome. Once I was on my own, I was like, Let's see how hot this candle can burn." For three or four years, there were drugs and drinking and staying up for days on end and a lot of girls who were, in his estimation, "bad, bad news.”

All old news and all been discussed at length before

R233

Reddit falsely accuses people of things all the time using their so-called "investigative skills". There was an incident where they falsely accused someone of being the Boston bomber ending in the victim's suicide. /r/armiehammerreceipts is going to get very toxic very fast.

He lies so much. I don't believe anything he says. Wholesome? His grandparents would be upset? His grandad was a crack head who killed someone and cheated on his grandma with many women including his own daughter. Or is he talking about the fundie psychopaths that probably taught him to eat people.

Oh jfc (again). The drama queens in this thread 😂🙄😂🙄😂🙄

R246 agreed. Pretty sure they are already well on their way. Same with these threads as prime time is over and more and more people come here from Reddit.

Sure he is 😂

Go take a look @armand.hammer.fc. He put it all out there years ago! Look at the highlights on CMBYN meme. "Is it better to speak or die" on the main page too.

You really think that lame fan page is his! You are such a tool. And learn how to link.

The woman who refuses to go to the police is telling women to speak up. That's rich.

I guess she has ran out of victims to post about. Is this thing officially over?

R252 There's no contradiction. She is telling people to speak up. She is not telling them to go to the police.

She should be, because "speaking up" on social media does nothing. Wasn't she talking about 200 victims?

Unpopular opinion, but the longer this goes on and the more information hits the news, the more suspect it becomes. Braces for attack......

You’re not wrong r255. I said it earlier but it’s the same small group of people cycling the same screenshots on the same three or four sites.

Ah good, the charmies are here e.g. R252 with their smear campaign and their shit grammar. I think it's your "thing" that's "officially over", petal.

As everyone has gone quiet on social media I suspect a mainstream news article is in the works. Given that Mia has commented, it’s likely Ronan Farrow.

R257 I've said it before but it amazes me how prepared his stans are to have their personal morality dragged into the gutter with this man.

And that was before all of this 'business'.

I don't see the attraction? - as milkandhoney said- he's a selfish man child/energy draining vampire, every conversation is me me me

Resentful and jealous of everyone he works with.

Now Effie posting messages about how armie got aroused by her teeth

He has an obsession with keeping parts of women as mementos... this is serious serial killer Silence of the Lambs territory

Poor Archie, he is forced to play the role of “Darla”

Sorry Darla was the name of the actual dog, the name in the movie was Precious

Just more crimes she didn't report to the authorities, because she was in love with him. Probably still is.

How does this woman still have stans who are defending her inaction?

HE ABUSED ARCHIE

Errrr 'stans who are defending her inaction' R263 WTF are you talking about? You're the only one who's locked into a cult here.

Also, don't you have even a rudimentary understanding of the nature of abusive relationships?

They aren’t saying he killed a woman...

They never said he killed a woman.

R265

I'm talking about people like you who are defending her for not doing the right thing and reporting him to the police.

What cult? The cult of justice? The cult of calling people out for doing nothing besides posting screenshots?

I'm proud member of that cult.

They did say he killed the woman, lolz. Even after they figured he was in CI at the time. Collective iq of 90.

R268 You honestly can't conceive of any reason why rape/sexual assault victims might not report to the police? Do you live under a rock? Or in some alternative universe where reported rapes are investigated fairly (let alone prosecuted) without revictimising the complainant? Or maybe just a universe in which any whiff of criticism of Armie Hammer is attributed to a conspiracy to cover up his secret relationship with etc etc.

I think posting ss is not nothing. Without these women we wouldn't know the extend of his...troubles. sure we thought he was a loser before, but now it's out in the open. I just hope a legit article is coming.

I guess some people might start to believe once some sordid video drops.

So how long before he's found either dead or OD'd ?

No, I can't think of a reason why rape victims don't go to the police. Even if he doesn't get convicted it is still on his criminal record. I read about 100 legit articles in the last two weeks and nothing happened. Wait... he apologized to Miss Cayman.

'I can't think of a reason why rape victims don't go to the police.'

Wow.

Effie confirms that Armie moved her into a house near his home 4 years ago, which is what the poster on Datalounge revealed in 2018

Hmmm then I think the 2018 poster is Effie, not AH.

Or someone very close to her.

R277, I wish I could send Armie to beat you.

R274 You didn't read the alleged threat to take her head off her shoulders if she told his wife then?

I mean those kinds of threats might well put someone off going to the police no?

R274

R281 Brilliant link, thank you. And yes, SHAME is very disabling.

r 264 Yeah. Now I'm done. If he's been bragging about torturing and killing animals since he was a child, this is one sick fuck already in Ted Bundy territory.

Actually torturing and killing a woman wouldn't surprise me at this point. We know he wants to do it. Fucking jesus. The reasons for any disappearances in the area of the Hammer Hotel may not turn out to be as outlandish as we think. Can someone bring this motherfucker down, please?

R281 She has already come forward. She has been posting screenshots and talking publicly about their relationship for the last two weeks. We just want her to do the exact same thing at the police station.

R284 Going to the police - in person - may still be beyond her abilities, right now. As you can see, saying something as an anonymous person on-line is pretty easy to do.

Pedophile, rapist, torturer of animals....sounds like psych 101 textbook definition of psychopath. Read and repeat or truth?

Pack up your things everybody. Alleged victim of Armie Hammer leaves social media after a hissy fit.

This alleged victim does not want to be questioned. Neither by you, journalists, or by the police.

Can totally understand, don't see it as a hissy fit. you seem to be desperate to discredit her. whatever the reasons are she's going about the things as she is, she gave plenty proof by now that what she's claiming is legit. if it wouldn't be Hammer's legal team would have shut it down already and sued her to the moon and back.

Oh they will sue her. Don't worry. They're just waiting for her to stop posting so they can build a case. Now that there's no sign of her going to the police they have all the time in the world.

She should have had a better end goal besides wanting an apology from her favorite dom.

R287 So you're just going to ignore what Paige, Courtney and Jess have said then?

R289 Sue her for what?

Are you saying the DMs were fake?

R290 What did they say besides that he's a fucking weirdo? They all said they consented to his crazy shit after being "love bombed". Whatever that means...

R289 Why would they have to wait for her to stop posting..? If she just pulled these allegations out of thin air or wouldn't even know him, as some psychos claim, they would just threaten to sue immediately. they don't need to wait for her to stop posting "to build a case" gtfo

I can’t even imagine the levels and degrees of hate - and threats - she’s been at the receiving end of. I’m sure she’s no saint but I do believe that she was traumatized and that part of her coming to terms with that, healing, and moving on has compelled her to come forward.

I’ve been in traumatic situations I can be blamed for having placed myself in, especially as a drug addicted whore desperately seeking to escape my own pain and childhood trauma; it didn’t make those situations any less wrong, traumatic, or dangerous, quite frankly. I’ve seen and had perpetrated upon me some pretty dark and painful shit; and I’ve managed to escape some close, dangerous calls. (A sharp intellect, an eerily accurate intuition, and a belief in the power of prayer - not based in religion but on a deep and constant communion with life and the Light - are strengths I always possessed and which aided me in my escape from so many things and in so many ways.)

I always question - as everyone should - people who are quick to criticize, shame, insult, and blame a victim. Some of those people are victims themselves and can’t help but reflexively suppress someone else’s pain as they do their own. Others are just scarily apathetic and damaged in other ways. And then, of course, others are or have been perpetrators themselves. (You know who you are.)

Sometimes, like Dorothy or Alice or Little Red Riding Hood, we go deeper into the darkness than we should have or even intended to and the way back home is both rigorous and overwhelming. But home we must go if we are to survive and we each do it in our own way.

His amazing fans have started to racially abuse the other woman now.

Same stuff about sleeping with a married man so you got what you deserved too.

Great people.

I fear that the children are still in danger because now they are around Michael Hammer. Liz should leave the Caymans and go back to her family in Colorado, but I think she is too arrogant to do that.

R291

Blackmail and libel. She published the DMs with a clear intent and she never gave any evidence for the pedophile allegation.

R297 Lol. His team will want this to just go away.

She has 4 years worth of material remember.

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This isn’t going away soon. Effie is just one of many. I can only imagine the bravery to be the first to speak up. She doesn’t have to finish it.

In a statement to DailyMail.com, Hammer's lawyer said: ‘These assertions about Mr. Hammer are patently untrue. Any interactions with this person, or any partner of his, were completely consensual in that they were fully discussed, agreed upon, and mutually participatory'

Sooo....

"Hey, can I carve my initial into your groin with this rusty knife?"

Armie uses LOVEBOMB

It is very effective.

"Sure, Armie. Why not?"

This is the sickening scar left by Hollywood star Armie Hammer on his young lover after he branded her just millimeters away from her private parts.

Using a sharp knife Hammer cut his first initial 'A' into her skin during a kinky sex game, which ex-lover Paige Lorenze insists got out of control.

Seconds later the 6ft 5' inch screen idol - who has claimed he's '100% a cannibal' in vile Instagram messages to other women - then ‘licked the cuts' from the wound.

Lorenze shared the exclusive image with DailyMailTV as a stark warning to other women who might be seduced and manipulated by Hammer.

The 22-year-old former professional skier turned Instagram model is speaking out about the ‘deeply traumatic’ four month relationship, which left her emotionally and physically scarred.

And Lorenze exposes Hammer as an out of control narcissistic sexual deviant, whose wild fantasies and BDSM fueled desires which she says could ‘seriously injure another woman.’

The blond beauty reveals that Hammer was fixated on biting her body, begging that she allow him to take lumps of flesh from her arm, before consuming them.

Father-of-two Hammer, 34, urged his lover - 12 years his junior - to participate in ‘role play’ sex.

Even on their first night of intimacy, Lorenze revealed Hammer insisted: ‘You can either call me daddy or sir.’

The actor often tied up Lorenze, hit her with paddles and planned out ‘high protocol nights’ of painful sexual moves, which often left her covered in bruises.

Lorenze described their time together in Los Angeles as ‘like a real life 50 Shades Of Grey without the love’.

Laying out more of his sick fantasies, Hammer begged the Instagram model to have her ribs removed, so that he could barbecue them.

Even with his family at Thanksgiving, Hammer took along his leather bound BDSM case for kinky sex games.

In a photo shared exclusively with DailyMailTV Hammer is seen posing with Lorenze and his mother Dru Ann during the holidays, which they celebrated in Dallas, Texas.

In another exclusive photo the former couple are seen shirtless on a moped in the desert, Hammer smiling and wearing a cowboy hat.

Lorenze told DailyMailTV: ‘I want Armie to address his demons, see the pain and trauma that he has caused me and other women.

‘He told me there’s a whole community that will do this stuff, that it was not criminal.

'He really thought that his fantasies were normal behavior in the BDSM, non-normative, sexual kink community. I thought that this is what it was. I thought I was safe.

‘But any man who is fantasizing about crushing bones, eating them, having sex with female limp bodies is a danger to all women.

'And this is not me kink shaming, I want that to be clear.

‘His actions and behavior are dangerous and emotionally and psychologically damaging.

‘He is saying people are kink shaming him and should not comment on his sex life, but BDSM is a smoke screen for him wanting to hurt women.

‘You can be just as traumatized by consensual sex. It’s unacceptable that he coerces women into agreeing to let him hurt them.'

In a statement to DailyMail.com, Hammer's lawyer said: ‘These assertions about Mr. Hammer are patently untrue. Any interactions with this person, or any partner of his, were completely consensual in that they were fully discussed, agreed upon, and mutually participatory.'

R301 I’ll trust the crying women with scars and nothing to gain from this over the proven and privileged douchebag with a penchant for abhorrent “kinks and fetishes.”

Well at least they finally got it right that Dru is his mom, not hers.

He finally got sober enough to contact a lawyer?

Anyone defending this pervert is as vile as he is. Just stop. Get help. Consent or partial consent does not make him any less of a sadist freak.

That blanket assertion by his lawyer is quite something.

I'm guessing the DMs were bullshit then?

R308 *weren't bullshit

Someone has reported him to the Cayman authorities for animal cruelty.

Imagine being told by that sack of shit that you'll never meet anyone better

The audacity

R310 Jesus. Is he hurting animals too?

His dog isn't even in the Caymans. Redditors are so stupid.

R313 I know

I expect they'll get to California in time.

ELIZABETH HAS GOT IN TOUCH WITH ONE OF THE GIRLS

What’s up with the yelling? Have we been invaded by teen girls? Lol

R315 Oh noooeesss....

So this isn't just going to disappear like the loons on here think now they've bullied effie off Instagram?

R315well don’t just sit there, tell us more!

She's back !!!!

House of E just posted the Daily Mail article so I guess this is only a partial ceasefire.

Effie is back

R320 Oh hell no. This is going to get worse - the revelations, that is.

R320 She's back and better than before!

His statement was always going to difficult or him to pull off.

If he lies, he'll be called on it.

Are the 15 year olds why he’s called a pedophile then? When will these people learn what a pedophile actually is?

And before you all go insane, no I’m not in any way defending or ok with a grown ass man and 15 year olds, but I’m tired of people screaming about pedophiles any time someone is younger than 18. It takes focus away from actual pedophiles.

[quote]I’m not in any way defending or ok with a grown ass man and 15 year olds

Call Me By Your Name!

R323 'not ok with a grown ass man and 15 year olds'

Did you miss the rape allegation part?

Jesus

R324 no 15 year olds in CMBYN lol

R325 that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said m, sweetie. But I know reading comprehension is very very difficult

So how long did Effie’s IG break last? 10 minutes? Lol

R328 Every time he lies, she'll issue a statement.

Guess his lawyer will have to try harder.

Why don’t you just admit you are here Effie? And have been since 2018. Or “Effie’s friend”..

R327 Oh I think you're quite easy to read babe.

R330 Why do you want her to reveal herself to you if she's her?

Do you want to bully off this platform too?

R332 i haven’t bullied anyone off from any platform lol. But it is very obvious she is here, why not own up to it?

Someone has hacked milkandhoneyroses Instagram so it's down

She didn't take it down.

R333 Erm. Because its none of your fucking business?

Plus everyone would go digging through her posting history.

Nice try though

R335 lol

Are there still any charmies left? Or have they realised they have dedicated their lives to a delusional fantasy for three+ years?

Effie has posted a countdown on her story for about twenty minutes from now with warning "MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING"

R338 I wonder if Jonathan is wearing brown tracksuit bottoms just in case?

Statement from Paige

R340 Good for her. You can tell she’s been through a confusing and hellish experience.

Jesus. Are those minors.

I’ve been wondering why he’s been following these very young looking girls. Now I guess I know. 😔🤢

So maybe 'go to the police' isn't the way to get justice after all.

Awkward.

R344 yeah let’s stop going to the police. Good idea. 👍

Effie posted three conversations with three girls who appear to have had relationships while the girls were underage

'clean little kitten'

I know calling someone Daddy during sex is pretty common, with him though and his 24/7 obsession with sex and submission i just find it.... creepy. His kids probably call him that all the time. Most people i think can separate this word in a sexual and non-sexual situation, he's too fucked up though.

Someone asked what 'love bombing' is. For everyone who wants to learn about Narcissistic Abuse, imo this is the best place to start:

R348 if Michael Hammer did indeed molest and abuse Armie then the daddy obsession would make sense. “Obedience to Daddy” and anal sex seem to be the recurrent motif in Armie’s encounters.

Man, the posts in r346 are heartbreaking.

New details in the DM from Paige and a photo of the carved "A" if anyone's interested. Also a statement from TD lawyers. I can't link the article for some reason.

Just to shut up some of the wiseacres on here saying "stfu" if you aren't going to the police: on a recent AMA, Effie answered a question as follows:

Q: How far are you willing to go with the case?

Q: All the way

So just because she's not sharing the details with us, the unwashed masses, doesn't mean she doesn't have her shit together on lock. She seems FIERCE and fiercer every day. I actually got an optimistic feeling tonight as I read through all of her IG posts. It's ON.

Sorry that second Q should have been the "A"!

What is really upsetting is how many 15/16/17 year olds are coming forward now. It just gets worse. And worse. And worse.

One of his first jobs was as a guitar teacher...

And after cmbyn he had much more access to young girls.

In one of the 2018 Datalounge posts, look how the poster freaks out when someone suggested Armie let Kevin Spacey grope him:

“@173 Fuck off. i’ll fucking rip Kevin Spacey’s fucking hands off and skin him alive if i ever found out he so much as thought of doing something to Him.”

So we see, the trigger is an older man touching him. All signs point to Michael Hammer.

Unfortunately, Elizabeth has delivered the children into Michael Hammer’s reach for nearly a year now.

R358 Sorry if I seem obtuse -- are you implying that was Armie Hammer here on DL in 2018? Eek!

[r359] Yes, that's what some of us think.

Yes, the posts actually started in 2017. It’s broken down here.

R346 Jesus! Those girls really need to get together and take this cunt down. I know it's easier said than done but, hell how much longer is he gonna get away with this?

Lol

I do appreciate the way switchy-poos always covers TD's face with the clown emoji.

some of the LSA crowd is legit calling the cops on Armie Hammer after the minors ss

R365 Reddit too.

I love how other people have to call the cops because this cunt who has apparently held back evidence for years is still refusing to talk to the cops.

C O M P L I C I T

We know you lurk here Effie and I hope the cops will seize your laptop and phone as well.

R367 you're dumb. She's been contacted since she started this. She didn't know for years.

Stick the dumb troll on ignore it makes the whole day better

r370, I did that a couple of threads ago, and it made the thread glitchy for me.

In answer to Deuxmoi's post saying Armie and his team won't speak unless something big comes out, Emily Giffin, novelist and former lawyer answered: "Something big has already come out but more evidence and victims are forthcoming. Trust and believe that justice will be served and you can quote me on that."

Charmies always doing the most will lead straight to his jail time. Haven't those idiots learned that they are the reason people hate him and don't ignore him before this happened and that they are pissing Effie off and motivating her to reveal more? Why are they so nuts?

R373 Poetic isn't it?

R372 well if he wasn't done before, being a confirmed predator of children,if true, will be the end for him.

I have to say, not in all my years thinking this scum was actually scum and wondering how a man can be so gleeful playing a child groomer, did I suspect he could actually be one. Just in shock.

Oh no. Charmies please don't piss off Effie.

Can you imagine what she might do?

She might even do the right thing for once in her life and go to the police!

That would be so terrible.

R374 very. They have been doing this for years. It's the same thing he does. Trying to bully people into submission has always backfired on him.

He is such an asshole. He should have made the apology and paid them off quietly. What an asshole.

I'm in shock.

You don't pay off people that blackmail you publicly. He can thank god that she's so incredibly dumb.

R379 That's what happens when you have convinced yourself he's a closeted bottom I guess,

R362 bet the Caymans are looking into unsolved crimes and wondering if the authorities there have been keeping their eyes on him. Are any of these abused kittens, Caymanian?

I can’t believe I used to almost be a fan (that ended years ago but still)

Is the “he’s closeted” troll still claiming this is all done to cover up for him being gay but in the closet?

R378 Why on earth would you want him to pay them off?

So he could continue?

R383 those cannibalistic teeth always creeped me out, I hated that he ruined CMBYN but never was I driven to detest him until his trip to Saudi Arabia and when his fucking asshole fans started harassing fans, girlfriends, ex co stars, with their delusions.

R385 not at all. That's just what a smart criminal minded predator would have done. He always makes things dumber trying to get the upper hand. When you're wrong just take the loss. Fuck.

Milkandhoneyroses is back

Has she said why she stopped posting screenshots of DMs as prove?

R389 as what sorry?

You can't convince me that some of those fans don't work for him. That simp chick has committed actual crimes for this man. She must be the one hacking their accounts. And how is rmk holding up? Has she offed herself yet?

R391 Nah.

Simpi is a crackpot

I've taken much delight in poking the bear with her and the other loons over the past year.

I told them he was into knife play and weird shit probably 6 months ago but no I was the idiot.

I can't imagine any of this is untrue. How could they blatantly defame him like this if it's not true?

R392 but hasn't the Charmie stuff been being used as a smoke screen? His buddy Tyler is still leaking them the hot tub clues (that means Charmie is alive and well) so they are still trying to promote that defense.

Wait. Weren't all these women beards to hid his Charmie love? They veered off script, huh?

R394 Yup. I told them ages they were all being played by Tyler but I think I was told to ride a donkey's dick.

Rude!

The Charmies are Armie's greatest mindfuck.

Armie Hammer you are under arrest! You have been accused of rape in a text message that was posted online. Admittedly we don't know their names, their gender, their age, where they live, we don't even know they exist, but you're time is up buddy boy.

Once again reddit has saved the day.

R396 suddenly his emoji meltdown, him repeatedly mentioning his friendship with Timothee seem more sinister. Did he actively encourage the Charmies so they wouldn't listen to rumors he was a pedophilic abuser and be distracted with shipping him they would ignore major red flags?

Tyler knows where the bodies are buried. Hopefully not literally.

Are some of these young girls CMBYN fans?

R397 you need to stop. You're just encouraging them to really find shit.

Always wondered why they posted here. Now I know. Bait the gays so they won't believe the abuse of women rumors?

R400 I bet. He was into communicating with fans a lot. I even have some DMs. But mine are just PG.

R402 I think he’s in the closet - either gay or bi (probably the latter) - and that he abuses, mutilates, and fantasizes about killing women, though with his money and level of protection, who knows how far he’s already gone.

R401

Don't worry, they don't have to find shit. I'm sure Effie is already hard at work. The next text message will conveniently mention why she can't go to the police.

[quote]You can't convince me that some of those fans don't work for him. That simp chick has committed actual crimes for this man. She must be the one hacking their accounts. And how is rmk holding up?

She is saying that those women are 'in panic' and 'not mentally stable'.

R405 the pedo story isn't hers to tell and maybe she can't go to police but others might. Seems like a lot of potential people.

The police wouldn't do shit. She is ruining his life and career and this is much better.

R408 It had to work this way. Only by creating public interest will the authorities have to take action.

Always the case in Hollywood.

R406 not stable? All of them? How does she explain his beards turning crazy on him too?

R410 Last time I checked this was all a sting operation organized by Armie to catch Liz doing illegal things to keep his kids away from him.

R409 Yeah, Effie is not so manic afterall. Girl is formidable, organized and might actually take this MF down. She's a bad bitch.

R411 wtf? So all the conspirators turned against him? Idgi.

R409

You know when authorities take action? When you go to them and report a crime.

You know when journalists write about it? When you go to them and report a crime.

R414 yeah somehow someone might have to report a crime eventually but so far this looks essential for making the story known. I am glad she took this approach. At least we get the full story. The police might try to silence her until the case is heard. I don't really know.

I've been going back through DL threads (Armie Hammer 4, 5, 6, 7 etc) and it's just fascinating to watch little pieces of the puzzle unfold over the course of those threads. Little observations people would make. The odd "Wow he just liked this japanese girl who shmooshes bread with her face" followed by "wait, so that's different than the other BDSM stuff, hmmm." etcetc. And LOTS of speculation about Luca (director of CMBYN) and his seeming erotic and ego influences on Armie during the making of that film It's just so interesting.

The impressionistic sense that unfolds through hundreds of posts, is that Armie made that movie (2016), and it unlocked certain things in him. With Luca serving as lover/father/shaman/guru/sherpa, guiding Armie to explore repressed and undiscovered parts of himself. Luca also sought Armie out, made him feel desired, special, faultless, fascinating, erotic, curious, romantic, dangerous, edgy. And Armie was devastated when filming ended and actually missed his first Father's Day with Ford to be in Italy with Luca!

Other theme; 1. "Why does Armie seem so detached from his son?" 2. "Boy Elizabeth sure seems nervous like she has to watch Armie like a hawk. Wonder if she's just jealous or if she has a reason to be concerned??" 3. "Well it's well known that Armie has daddy issues..." 4. "I think he's a pretty heavy drinker, check out his IG, you'll see he drinks a lot. And eats a ton of meat."

I could go on. Anyway, this was one of this interesting "likes" that someone had commented on in 2017

^^ they might also be still gathering evidence. Getting all their ducks in order. Effie is fierce.

That's interesting [R270]. Something is up. I didn't want to believe the trolls at first but it seems that marriage is tumultuous.

Is Armie questioning things in his life?

—Anonymous reply 271 11/22/2017

My guess-- She feels threatened by something or someone, maybe nothing's happened yet but she's sensing that it will.

—Anonymous reply 272 11/22/2017

[bold]But when does Armie get time to cheat on her? He's constantly working, filming, promoting films or with Luca or with Timo……[/bold]

All this talk about Armie's wife, I'm wondering if her insecurities are based in reality. Meaning, I'm wondering if the poor girl truly has a reason to put on such a show to have her time in the spotlight and remind everyone that she's Armie's wife and the mother of his children. Maybe she has legit concerns, or feel threatened by the people who are very close to her husband and his success.

—Anonymous reply 331 11/23/2017

R414 You really don't know what she's reported or not, but you seem really eager to criticize Effie. I think a public outcry might sway law enforcement to take action, as R415 said. As for journalists, she's already got Ronan Farrow and best-selling novelist Emily Giffin on her side. I'd say she's doing great.

R312 Yes. There is an unverified DM in which he admits he nearly strangled Archie, his dog, while fantasizing about strangling his girlfriend. Do they have cliffs in the Cayman Islands? I'm hoping he stumbles off of one. Perhaps while taking his favorite drug. Fingers crossed.

R416 Lmao it was clear as day.

Wonder why Luca's partner left him. Wonder why Luca can't make a film or show with a healthy age gap.

But what about Tyler? The man us nearly 50. He avoided anything to do with CMBYN, almost like a scorned lover. Is he Armie's lover, confidante, conspirator?

What about the Ramsey/Hammer lifelong connection? Are their families linked with some sick shit?

What was the purpose of the Saudi trip? What the fuck happened in the desert? What the fuck does Hammer do on all those solo and entirely unnecessary road trips?

WHERE THE FUCK IS HIS CELLPHONE? AND HAS HE HARMED THOSE TOE SUCKING KIDS?

R418 Maybe Liz isn't so dumb. Maybe she recorded the toe sucking on purpose and the hashtag wasn't about the son, but Armie's foot fetish.. ew.

Record, just in case you need evidence.

R420 Anyone following this knows some evil shit went down in Saudi and the 29 Pervs Motel.

R421 Oh my...you might be onto something there

Some of you sound like the crazy ones from reddit. Don´t turn this place in redditcrazyland, please

Puts the toe sucking and sexulaizing the daughter's art work into new light. What was that Hammer said in his last post about looking out for their wellbeing while posting images like this of his kids.

On reddit someone just posted a thread about speculation that Armie's dad Michael may have killed Armie's grandfather, Armand, to gain control of the inheritance. Because Armand's will was originally spread out far and wide with bequeathments to charities, mistresses, museums, education, relatives....And then suddenly he died, and it all went to Michael.

On top of that, Armand's brother Julius had a history of mental illness, drug addiction, and was charged with manslaughter at one point.

Michael Hammer also being accused by his sister Casey Hammer (Armie's aunt) of incestuous acts (he was several years older than her). It's all in her book, a scathing expose about her family, the Hammers. It's called "Surviving My Birthright." Part of an amazon review of the book: "...as I read this account of her childhood and growing up, I don’t know what stunned me more - the unimaginable cruelty of those around her or her endurance in the face of it. That she is still standing, seems to me, to be something of a miracle..."

And let's not even get STARTED right now with Father Mobley!

If Armie was indeed raped and abused by Michael Hammer as a child, then it would be understandable why the attentions and inappropriate flirtations along with Luca’s apparently alternating cruelty (I believe he slapped him even at one point) would have been so triggering within Armie.

Wow on one of the older Armie Hammer threads, regarding the adorable sexy japanese girl who smooshed her face into cupcakes for videos to post on IG, someone had made the connection that "this is what Armie really thinks of his wife's precious bakery items" or something to that effect. Thats intsense! Hiding his scorn in plain sight, perhaps?

Oh jfc go back to Reddit. This is almost as bad as being invaded by charmies

Paige’s confirmation that Dru attempted an exorcism on Armie made me think back to this analysis of the 1973 horror classic and how the movie’s demonic possession storyline was actually a supernatural parallel to the subtext that Regan was being molested by Burke Dennings. So maybe Dru’s own extreme religiosity have been a willful blinding, a kind of self-delusion, to the horrific abuse that her husband was doing to her child.

Why does everyone assume something in him got "unlocked" while filming CMBYN or by being in the proximity of Luca? Isn't it known that he and his useless friends already did a "documentary" and "long-term project" about cutting and blood play in 2013? And didn't he say that he was a "dominant lover" before his marriage, but thought he can't disrespect his wife like that? The fact that he equals being a dominant lover with disrespecting and objectifying the woman and feels he has to repress those urges with someone he values already says a lot, I think.

Anyway, this goes WAY back and is not something that started in 2016 with a gay movie and a few drug trips, even though the drugs certainly didn't help with the unhingedness.

R431 one doesn’t exclude the other. There was a definite shift after filming CMBYN. And no, he didn’t suddenly realise he was gay (although I could imagine Luca seducing him also ew).

R430 ... or Armie Hammer is just a rotten apple. Maybe he's just the product of too much privilege, wealth, boredom and apparently bad genes. Sure, the family doesn't seem all that healthy and especially his aunt's book is grisly. But in regards to Armie himself there's a lot of kitchen sink psychology and wild speculation so far, not much else. Let's not paint him as a victim as well, before there's any indication he actually is.

R422 What went down???

Sorry but everything about Hammer’s alleged behavior is consistent with a childhood abuse victim who turned into an abuser.

There’s going to be a Patrick Bateman calling from an empty office at night scene by the time this is over, isn’t there?

What is most striking to me, is this story of a restless, hedonistic man (Michael Hammer) privileged beyond measure, but himself the product of stern cold domineering fathering, exploring vices and pleasures and drugs and sex. And then finding Dru Ann and leaving all of that behind. Accepting Christ as his lord and savior and finding the "peace that passeth understanding." Then raising a family in the most moral, whitewashed overtly Christian context you could imagine. Cayman Island is Christian to the core. And The Hammers actually even started a Christian school there which Armie went to. Ok so the theme is...darkness and debauchery in the family history - and an about-face towards religosity and piety and straight-laced values. Michael spoke in interviews of wanting to raise the children in a "wholesome" environment. Armie talks about his childhood being so "wholesome" and "good." I dunno....methinks they doth protest too much. Could it be that what seemed wholesome on the surface was catastrophically oppressive and confining? And even brainwash-y or cult-y? Armie said that when he moved to LA he was ready to "see how bright this candle can burn" and he wasn't referring to stardom but rather indulging in vices previously off-limits. It's a tale as old as time, when there is so much repressed content in families, that soften there is that one family member, usually a young person, who becomes the scapegoat. The one who acts out the dysfunction and secrets and horrors and brings it all out into the open. Seems like Armie could be that person, embodying all of the unspoken, disowned cruelty, psychopathology, and misogyny in the Hammer lineage, in much the same way that his aunt Casey was the whistleblower of the family, raising the curtain on all manner of unpleasantness that was papered over when Father Mobley and his daughter Dru came in and cleaned up the narratives.

R437 ever thought about starting a blog? Lol

Paige in the comments (and these pathetic Liz hate accounts by Charmies 🙄🙄🙄)

Not trolling, just asking for clarification because there's so many threads now.

Didn't this all start after Effie - she's the 'Michael Phelps of Fucking', right? - want an apology from AH and he had 24 hours or something to do it before she started releasing screenshots? Or am I completely on the wrong track and misremembering?

Someone's gonna write a book about all this. "We Need to Talk About Armie"

R440 pretty much. She did say some negative things before that, but also talked about how amazing he was in bed (in private dms) and how nice and kind and good person he is (in dms, to me included).

r441 Thank you.

So, if he HAD apologised, would we know of the extent of his depravity? Would other victims have come forward?

I have no doubt he's a dangerous, sadistic psycho who should be in jail - and his Hollywood career needs to disappear asap - but why are we only seeing edited DMs? I think, in the interests of full disclosure, we need to see what she said to him too.

And I say that - to be clear - NOT to excuse his behavior or shame/blame her. But we're obviously not getting the whole story.

R442 You can see -- and I am pro-Effie -- but you can see in some ss where the girl's responses are there, and a lot of it is placating his creepiness. A lot of lol's and haha's. I think we've seen ss from a lot of different girls, too and some of them adhere with the whole "yes daddy" and "sir" stuff. I didn't get the sense that Effie was complying with that to the same degree as the Russian gal did. But even when we couldn't see her side of the convo, it seems she was at least pretending to be receptive or she was curious enough to play along because he offered up SO much seemingly unimpeded crazy content. We've all been there, where you are crazy about someone, but then you learn more about them and your heart maybe isn't in to some aspects of their personality or lifestyle... but you try to stay open-minded, or you placate and indulge. So the exchange looks mutual -- but the reality is, that you are thinking "aghghgh I hate it when he acts like _______. Why can't he just be cute and not say/do ________!?"

Sex creates major intense addictive, intoxicating hormones. You can get so dickmatized so fast that the idea of rocking the boat feels wrong. You wish all of that weird stuff would *poof* disappear so you could just have a nice relationship.

Eventually Effie's ss show a woman totally at her wits end and no longer playing along with his game.

R443 maybe you should start a blog

Someone should explain to Effie what a pedophile actually is

Michael and Dru Hammer = the parents from Prince of Tides

“Tom recounts his sad and horrific childhood for Susan in hopes that it might help her save Savannah. We learn that Tom and his siblings, twin sister Savannah and their elder brother, Luke, were the offspring of an abusive father and uncaring mother. Their father, Henry, a WWII bomber crewman who survived being shot down and managed to evade capture by the Nazis, thought that the best way to raise a family was by beating them, and did so regularly. He was a shrimp boat operator and, despite being successful at that profession, spent all of his money on frivolous business pursuits. One business attempt was a gas station that he advertised with a live tiger, which became the family pet, Caesar. These attempts leave the family in poverty. Their overly proud, status-hungry mother, Lila, was only concerned about the family's public image and would not let her children say a word about their father's abuse.”

Effie has posted screenshots from another girl who had a relationship with Armie when she was a minor. The girl lived in Italy so probably happened during CMBYN filming. The texts are recent and show Armie’s responses when asked about the scandal. He sounds completely psychopathic.

“Their overly proud, status-hungry mother, Lila, was only concerned about the family's public image and would not let her children say a word about their father's abuse.”

This is also Elizabeth Chambers. She knows more than she’s letting on.

Even if Elizabeth did not know the extent of Armie’s depravity, which seems unlikely, the extent to which she pushed the family man image to elevate her own status makes her the perfect unwitting accomplice.

r443 "So the exchange looks mutual ..."

See, here's the problem. Building a case against him is going to be hard if it DOES look like a mutual convo. He could argue that this was just bullshitting and fantasizing, talking dirty in what he thought was a consenting adult relationship. It won't be clear that she was "pretending ... just playing along."

Because what do a whole lot unhinged DMs mean at this point? That he's just a fucking creep. Plenty of them around. No one has complained to the police and that's why he's so cocky. The Cayman Island pageant people got an apology instantly when they made a complaint. May be that has to happen here now. And not for an apology but for sexual assault charges laid, court proceedings, and - hopefully - jail time.

Also despite Elizabeth’s apparent hovering and following him all over the globe, the incredible amount of philandering he was able to get away with suggests this was all for show and not out of any interest in protecting her marriage. She may have simply enjoyed the perks of celebrity life. If the poster from 2018 was to indeed have been Armie, then they were not even sexually compatible, and Elizabeth “laughed and mocked” Armie when he told her about his kinks.

R451 I think we can reasonably conclude that Armie and Elizabeth were never sexually compatible. Remember those couple interviews he gave where he talks about them cracking up in the middle of sex? Like they would just start laughing hysterically? Yeah that doesn't sound to me like to mature, connected people coming together at a deep level.

R451 the poster from 2018 is Effie or her friend, not Armie.

R453 keep tellin yourself that hon

R447 Honestly that dm exchange at R447 is probably one of the most eerie reveals we've seen yet. Because this exchangedhas happened recently, after allllllllll the shitttttt that's been coming out. The word "rape" is getting batted around a lot, "non-consent" is in da house....cannibal urges....knife stuff, juggling multiple women at the same time. You name it, it's been revealed. And he is acting so spooky-calm, he's totally unfazed. He wants this girl to shush her trap so he can move the conversation to how he can get this exchange to lead to an outcome where he get's to fuck someone. He doesn't care if it involves planes, or what. "But Armie, I'm extremely young; I have a boyfriend, and I think you are a creepy man." "Oh yeah right....well anyway, I'm horny, I'm lonely, I'm bored. Let's fuck, wanna fuck? When you gonna fuck me? "

r451 Not a fan of hers. Maybe she stayed for financial gain after ten years of marriage?

We can't blame her for staying when other women stayed in their relationship with him even when they knew he was a violent sadist. They are all victims.

If the criticism of his wife is that she knew and didn't say anything, well, so did a lot of other people.

Charmies have now doxxed Effie. They are complete scum.

Like I said in that other thread. TD fans suit him perfectly.

Did E just unfollowed Tyler R?

Looks like it

R459 Yes she did. Look on switch_ga. He supports TD and is basically saying there's a deliberate smear campaign because of the impending custody case. He said unfollow him if you don't support TD

What hot tub stuff from Tyler?

R455 Agreed. Imagine your response to being asked if you're a rapist is "having fetishes is not a crime".

I will admit though, there is a funny part here - you just know the Charmies are in tears that this guy was responding to DMs from so many people, and yet never responded to any of them (because if he ever had you just know they would've told everyone).

E also unfollowed Ashton R. Ramseys are fully team TD.

"Remember we talked about you having aspd?" This little gal he was seeing in Italy had to have a talk with Armie about Anti-Social Personality Disorder? Sounds HOT.

Antisocial personality disorder -- Also called: [bold]ASPD[/bold]

Those with antisocial personality disorder tend to [bold]lie, break laws, act impulsively, and lack regard for their own safety or the safety of others.[/bold] Symptoms may lessen with age. People may experience:

[bold]Behavioral:[/bold] antisocial behavior, deceitfulness, hostility, irresponsibility, manipulativeness, risk taking behaviors, aggression, impulsivity, irritability, or lack of restraint

[bold]Mood:[/bold] anger, boredom, or general discontent

[bold]Also common:[/bold] physical substance dependence or substance abuse

R444 “Call Me By Your Blood and Bones”

The statement is gradually getting longer:

Following these most recent accusations, an attorney for Mr. Hammer told The Sun US: “These assertions about Mr. Hammer are patently untrue. Any interactions with this person, or any partner of his, were completely consensual in that they were fully discussed, agreed upon, and mutually participatory.

"The stories being perpetuated in the media are a misguided attempt to present a one-sided narrative with the goal of tarnishing Mr. Hammer’s reputation, and communications from the individuals involved prove that.”

But then the write up says:

Armie was accused earlier this month of sending disturbing messages about cannibalism, rape fantasies, having "slaves" and "drinking blood."

He has denied sending the messages or engaging in those acts.

Had he denied sending those messages?

Meant for R440

R468 I think the “denial” they are referencing is likely him calling them “bullshit claims” in his original statement.

Luca Guadagnino’s partner left him? I thought they were still together?

Elizabeth has unfollowed the Ramsay brothers but not Armie? Lol

R471 yes some time last year.

Luca cheated on him all the time, so good on Ferdinando for having left him

Is Fox News considered serious or mainstream media?

Why is everyone ignoring the 15 year old who said he raped her?

R476 what 15 year old?

Effie published stories yesterday with the dms of a girl who told her how armie raped her when she was 15. This girl went to therapy after and even reported it but not much happened.

Maybe because there aren’t any proof? Anonymous messages from someone don’t count as proof no. Especially not when Twitter and Ig girls have a history of piggybacking on these stories and lying their asses off.

Apparently some of them have voice messages and pictures from him.

Also I guess by deleting all the screenshot from/about the girl who never had sexy with him, Effie messed up, and people don’t see her as reliable now. Or something.

R480 well as long as they don’t post that, we won’t know, will we? 🤔

R476 but I think it has been somewhat discussed in the other thread before it turned into a shit show with two people arguing for 100 posts

So legally, such a claim shouldn’t even be investigated?

Well they’d have to go to the police then, yes?

Nothing is (legally) investigated by being discussed here 🙄

His lawyer is Andrew Brettler

Previous clients Chris Brown, Brian Singer, Danny Masterson

Seems excessive for a defamation case against a couple of thots and their bullshit claims right?

Have the crazies made a manip of Armie and Timmy using the scooter pic yet? Lol

But the picture confirms the message sent in to deuxmoi about them driving around topless that no one believed

R487 no one listened to you in the other thread so you are trying here? Lol. How do you know who his lawyer is?

R488 Yup. They were wrong about that like they have been wrong about EVERYTHING for five years but they KNOW TD!!!!

They change their story every five minutes. Believing your own lies has got to be a head rush?

R489 Its called research dumbass

So you can’t say how you know? Is it public knowledge? 🤔

It is in Fox News

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ok

"These assertions about Mr. Hammer are patently untrue. Any interactions with this person, or any partner of his, were completely consensual in that they were fully discussed, agreed upon, and mutually participatory. The stories being perpetuated in the media are a misguided attempt to present a one-sided narrative with the goal of tarnishing Mr. Hammer’s reputation, and communications from the individuals involved prove that," his attorney, Andrew Brettler, told Fox News in a statement.

That’s a very contradictory statement

R496 Yup. Statement is a hot mess.

"assertions ... are untrue"

"communications from the individuals"

Soooooo - the DMs are real or not then?

It’s on Foxnews

Do people just post without reading the previous posts?

R499 They might have people on ignore.

I certainly do

It’s just a bunch of words

Have the lawyers booked the Weinstein Zimmer frame for him yet?

Can someone tell me what the hot tub thing is? I saw that the Charmie queen & insane person ™️ Has a hot tub pic in her IG account

R503 Its supposed to be a special bat signal that Tyler gives to the Charmies to tell them when something is a 'sham' and nothing to worry about.

Normally a supposed PR girlfriend etc.

Lmfaooooooooo It’s like the ‘elephant’ symbol that Sherlock production was giving johnlockers to signify that Sherlock and John were going to end up together 😂😂😂😂😂

R503 See also post of models doing cat walks - supposedly to warn of a forthcoming pap walk.

And Larries with their “warming selfie” theory

R506 but he posts those like every other day 🤔

R505 The difference is that I do actually think Tyler did this at times.

If TC was seen with a girl it would start - got to keep that Charmie myth going to keep the loons loyal to TD.

All these people are insane

The Charmies have been manipulated by Armie via Tyler for years. You should see the Jolene series of posts lol.

I initially thought they were just trolling at TC's expense but as someone else has commented - being thought to be a tormented closeted homosexual is a pretty good cover for being a tormenting heterosexual sex pig.

Plus the Charmies are the attack force that goes after any women who claim to be involved with TD. They did a number on Russian kitty and now they're going after these new women.

Tyler has also befriended one of the main IG Armie stans/Charmies, and gives her “inside information”. That Donna something something.

Christ.

Meanwhile AH’s aunt just reposted on IG the tiktok about her book and tagged AH

WTF

She’s been doing that for a while now.

Tagging him I mean. I have no idea what the new TikTok is about. But she was bragging about visiting the Hammer museum not too long ago.

Effie is very quiet after she deleted all the screenshots from the 17yo

Didn’t someone on here say she was gonna post something about the gq dude? 🤔

R507 Remember a lot of Charmies are former Larries - CMBYN came at just the right time for them as the Larry ship was obviously sunk. There was a brief period where they jumped to Ronaldo, and then the story about him being a rapist (of women) came out...they sure know how to pick them. Probably come out Harry Styles is a sex pest next.

Also, Charmies demanding proof is hilarious.

Larries?

R520 1D fans who think Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson are secretly in a relationship/married/etc. Worse than Charmies.

R517 Well she did get doxxed.

R517 R520 Not so much...

Not so much part 2

Kevin the peeping tom guy

TD still follows him on Instagram

R523 what does have to do with larries? 🤔

R525 how about posting a newer update on that case if you’re gonna post about it? 🤔

Sorry that was meant for R522

R523 Oh I see I hadn't checked Twitter. Revealing someone's personal information like their name is considered doxxing but if she doesn't care that's good I guess.

AH has a bit of a Jian Ghomeshi vibe, remember Big Ears Teddy?

Will his career be dusted off and refurbished after this humiliation ritual? Worded for Depp, of all people, for quite a while, made heaps of cash for Disney.

So the girl whose ss Effie posted still talks to AH????

R531 yes the 17 yo she posted yesterday does

The one she claimed got molested

The one who told him to fuck off and blocked him? And she’s 17 right now? Thought she was 17 when it happened

I have no idea how old she is now.

New “blind” on deuxmoi saying Armie hooked up with three co-stars. Lily, Gal, and?

Effie follows Tessa Thompson (sorry to bother you)

Yes R530 Jian Ghomeshi is the Canadian Armie Hammer. Equally defiant.

R536 Dakota.

R539 based on what?

I can pretty much guarantee Effie won’t be touching TC in real life, too bad about her dreams.

R541 huh?

R542 effie was making a joke about sex dreams and some people are triggered by the mention of TC lol.

OP what happened to milk and honey?

R544 she deleted her account according to someone

R544 there is update on r/armiehammerreceipts

TD just outted Effie as Efrosina Angelova via one of his fake Twitter accounts.

The third co star might be Emma Mackey. Look at deathonthenilebr on IG. Only 2 posts but both snarky

R547 you’re funny

R547 Effie is about to release some more ss, so I guess whatever people thought they were achieving they didn't.

Are we done claiming she is black then?

Is she only posting on Twitter now?

R547 If its true he has doxxed her then that's going to play very well in the courts?

Believing it was him and that he posts here and has fake Twitter and IG accounts besides his finsta is just as fucking delusional as charmies thinking he has charmie accounts on IG tumblr and Twitter. Come on.

R546 I hope all the Charmies and idiot stans are really pleased with themselves.

R553 Why wouldn't he have fake fan accounts? So he's been abusing women for years but he wouldn't have his own fan accounts to feed his own narcissistic ego? He's a fucking psycho, he loves himself more than anything ofc he has his own fake fan accounts dedicated to himself

R555 uh-huh sure Jan

So EC gets in touch with the black girl, and now she has deactivated her IG and has attempted suicide. Paige Lorenze is basically retracting her words.

AH’s lawyer is doing his work I see

R557 Paige hasn't retracted shit. She just said the Christian Gray quote wasn't her words.

Where does it say that she was specifically referring to the Christian grey quote?

R559 she said it herself of her insta story.

R550 I wasn't claiming she was black. I ASKED if anyone knew if she was. 🙄

Now we know she's another Russian calling herself an actress and model

R561 Armie is a Russian who calls himself an actor (as if)

What's your point?

R561 she isn't Russian, she's Bulgarian, nitwit

The xenophobia is strong here.

R559 she specifically underlined the quote. Are you blind?

R565 Just wilfully stupid I think.

Tea on Dru and Michael

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Someone said Effie was about to post a lot of screenshots. Did she delete them?

R569 Don't think she's posted them yet.

She said on her Twitter account that she was going to.

Yup, Charmies are making her do it.....

The third co-star isn’t Emma M btw.

Why would anyone think he had an affair with Gal Gadot? Besides being married with children, she's a fucking badass who doesn't seem at all the type to get entangled on set with this kind of motherfucker. I am not buying that even a little bit.

Lily James Dakota Johnson Tessa Thompson??

Ummm Tessa a big ole dyke.

R574 Thought Tessa was bi?

Lol at upset Gal fans 😂 Tessa Thompson considering Effie and one of the girls who deleted her account follow her makes some sense. The Wounds girl too

Effie is not above tossing some shade toward people apparently not even involved in her situation is she?

LOL at the Charmies here trying to cast doubt. You're so transparent, no-one's falling for it. You've spent so much time in your little Tumblr bubbles you have no idea how to sound like normal people

Is it known at which friend's house was he staying while in LA?

R578 They're not even worth engaging with these days.

The hive mind has run out of new crackpot theories so its just 'go to a lawyer' or 'its suspect af'

Lol.

R579 According to Deux Moi, he lives next to where Erika James was living last summer

R581 When did DM say this?

Was this his last known address before going to CI?

Interesting, EJ was rumoured to be his domme lol

Its no wonder he never had time to learn how to act

Ok I take back what I said about Armie and typos and language. Jesus.

Is that DM post from his finsta old or is he back in the States?

Loud outdoor sex at your friend's house!?!??!

Has anyone checked he doesn't have a brain tumour?

This was the day who wouldn't get naked on CMBYN

R587 when you are drugged up 24/7, on a shit ton of drugs, you don’t think about stuff like that I would assume...

Curious who this friend is though

That finsta is the gift that just keeps giving!

I guess the mole is still in place?

Unless this was an old leak that DM just decided to publish from the summer.

Property records are public

He's like a 13 year old boy bragging to his mates that the fit bird next door slid into his DMs cos she heard how much BANGING he was doing.

Its pathetic.

Effie posted old clip of Armie yelling at Archie and telling interviewer he was going to “beat the shit out of his dog.”

New thread

He’s not back in LA

So he’s sent pics of Paige which he took without her permission to his friends

Currently three active threads.

Two is enough

One would be sufficient

Closed