Just to piss off everyone who hate that we keep talking about this.
"They're Playing Our Song" Thread #2: Shh, shh, shh. Don't say a word.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||Yesterday at 4:34 PM|
I love that logo. Not ashamed to write that....
|by Anonymous||reply 1||01/19/2021|
Same here. It's got the totally right personality. Kind of the graphic counterpart to this classic at exactly the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||01/19/2021|
Here you go..
|by Anonymous||reply 3||01/19/2021|
Lucie said in an interview during the run that she and Klein have different styles of working. She plays to the other actor while he plays to the audience. Ouch! Hence the friction.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||01/19/2021|
Was there much friction between them? They seem so pals-y now doing reunions etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||01/19/2021|
That logo looks cheap. Just like the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||01/19/2021|
They had a weird relationship. They worked very well together but Klein was unhappy doing the same thing over and over again and it affected their relationship. However he showed up at her final performance and they’ve been good ever since.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||01/19/2021|
"Neil Simon has a new hit. Go see it" at OP is the epitome of "damning with faint praise."
|by Anonymous||reply 8||01/19/2021|
Does anyone know where the car ended up after they closed? And what's with the Tiny pianos curtain call?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||01/19/2021|
I saw the show, it was fine, but I’m astounded by the life of this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||01/19/2021|
[quote] She plays to the other actor while he plays to the audience.
Boy, if that's not the pot talking to the kettle.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||01/19/2021|
When you watch Lucie in "Here's Lucy" -- a mostly painful exercise -- you can tell Momma made sure EVERYONE was standing straightforward and TALKING so they can be HEARD. Lucie could never change that...
|by Anonymous||reply 12||01/19/2021|
I watched Here's Lucy on Hulu a few years back because I'd never seen any episodes. No it wasn't great, but it went down easily enough- except for Lucie Arnaz, who has got to be the first ever example of awful showbiz nepotism. She was so fucking annoying and terrible, mixed with a sense of entitlement and self satisfaction. I would have paid anything to see Gale Gordon kick her in the cunt bone.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||01/19/2021|
But Lucie is actually quite talented, and a MUCH better singer than either of her parents.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||01/19/2021|
Those two quotes in the TPOS ad -- if the best you can do is Gene Shalit and the AP, how do you run for several years?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||01/19/2021|
I keep waiting for the actual evidence that Lucie is so talented. I've never seen any actual proof.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||01/19/2021|
[quote]I saw the show, it was fine, but I’m astounded by the life of this thread.
I saw the show, completely forgot about it five minutes after the curtain call, and am even more astounded. Gee, I can't imagine why it's never been revived in New York.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||01/19/2021|
I saw Lucie in one of those STAGE benefit concerts in LA a couple of times and she was EXCELLENT.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||01/19/2021|
"Just to piss off everyone who hate that we keep talking about this."
"Hates," OP, not " hate." " Everyone" is singular.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||01/19/2021|
She was terrific in "Witches of Eastwick" in London. The show was bleh but she was delightful. I was surprised. "Another Night with Darryl" stopped the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||01/19/2021|
Why does this have a 2nd thread? Why?!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||01/19/2021|
Okay, here’s a TSOP story similar to the different performance styles of Arnaz and Klein:
After the show closed on Broadway, Marsha Waterbury (nee Skaggs) did a little summer stock tour in the summer of 1982 with Timothy Bottoms as Vernon. During their two week run at Traverse City’s Cherry County Playhouse, Bottoms wouldn’t even look at her on stage and delivered all of his lines to a sight line just to her left or to the right of her, just to torture her. Waterbury, though always a professional, found this so distressing and likely disappointing, that she would often break down during her delivery of I Still Believe In Love, for which her powerful delivery was already a signature of her performance as Sonia.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||01/19/2021|
^^dyslexia strikes again
Should be TPOS not The Sound of Philadelphia
|by Anonymous||reply 23||01/19/2021|
It's easy to remember that initials. Just think, "That Piece of Shit."
|by Anonymous||reply 24||01/19/2021|
I saw Waterbury in a regional production of "The Heidi Chronicles." She was great.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/19/2021|
I wonder why Bottoms was such an asshole.
No pun intended.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/19/2021|
Geez, OP, ain't ya forgettin' something? Like....a link to the *first* thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||01/19/2021|
r13 - She really wasn't very good. But I think that stemmed from inexperience. It's obvious that she worked at it and improved enough to get the Seesaw tour and TPOS...finally finding her niche (independent of Mom's).
|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/19/2021|
Would seesaw be a good Encores show? I don’t know it at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||01/19/2021|
For Thread #2, reposting clips from "TPOS" with Stockard and Tony, plus clips from Reprise! with Stephanie J. Block and Jason Alexander. More footage to come.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/19/2021|
I don't know, r29, it didn't come to Denver.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||01/19/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/19/2021|
And ya know...Seesaw *was* listed on the Robert S. Garner Season mailers. I was told Lucie didn't want to play Denver.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||01/19/2021|
Do we know what Lucie thought of today's inauguration?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||01/20/2021|
Timothy Bottoms was an asshole. He walked out of Fifth of July on broadway and left everyone hanging. Producers brought his more talented brother Joe in to replace him. And please don’t judge Lucie by Here’s Lucie. Not fair. Viv Vance encouraged her to do theatre if she was serious about acting and Lucie took her advice. She’s terrific.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||01/20/2021|
I would not say Joseph Bottoms was more talented than Timothy. Timothy was the talent in that family, asshole or not. He could outact both Joe and Sam put together.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||01/20/2021|
Why'd Timothy walk out on Fifth of July?
I remember seeing on TV a feature about a production Timothy did of TPOS where he had has three brothers as the voices of Vernon.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||01/20/2021|
Joseph Bottoms is really amateurish in Holocaust with M.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||01/20/2021|
Perhaps the first complete bootleg (everyone knew they were taping) was "Over Here" starring the Andrew Sisters and featuring John Travolta, Ann Reinking, Marilu Henner and Treat Williams. Janie Sell won a Tony for her outstanding turn as a Russian spy. The scenery looks amazingly like Follies (knew we could get them in another thread) and the staging by Patricia Birch is great. The set had a lift where the entire orchestra was raised onto the stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||01/20/2021|
The Andrew Sisters came out after the show and did a so-called third act where they did a concert of their hits. It was a huge deal at the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||01/20/2021|
[quote] During their two week run at Traverse City’s Cherry County Playhouse
I may have seen this. I know I saw Arte Johnson in Stop the World... there.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||01/20/2021|
R39 Re the "Over Here!" complete video (recorded at the final matinee): It's unfortunate that the first 15-20 minutes of the tape are scrambled and virtually unwatchable. Perhaps it was recorded on 3/4" videotape and the master could not be successfully transferred in full when VCRs appeared.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||01/20/2021|
I remember that day r39. It was a Sunday, kind of cloudy, I wore green socks to the theater.....
|by Anonymous||reply 43||01/20/2021|
They didn't do it after every performance, r40.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||01/20/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 45||01/20/2021|
Yep, r45. 1977 season.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||01/20/2021|
Didn't Robert Klein say that Lucie Arnaz did not like him at all when they did the show together but then ended up marrying a man who looked like him? I think Klein and Arnaz made up later.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||01/20/2021|
R47 Yes, he absolutely did say that. And we know that they made up because they performed a 40th anniversary reunion concert two years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||01/20/2021|
r46 - I noticed that Miss Nancy Dussault got her act together and took it on the road in 1984.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||01/20/2021|
Nancy was no Libby Wolfson.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||01/20/2021|
How could we have missed Jamie Farr in My Fair Lady?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||01/20/2021|
[quote]But Lucie is actually quite talented, and a MUCH better singer than either of her parents.
It's not hard to be a better singer than Lucille Ball.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||01/20/2021|
Reinking, Travolta and Henner are not in that bootleg. They all left before it closed. Maxine said in an interview that they did their sister act after every performance even though it wasn’t in their contract. Audiences expected it and they felt obligated.
Klein told that story about Lucie on The Tonight Show. I remember it well.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||01/20/2021|
I recall a rumor that Lucie Arnaz was not a fan of her "Witches of Eastwick" leading man, Ian McShane.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||01/20/2021|
The feeling was mutual. McShane loathed Lucie. She said in an interview that she had no idea who he was. He ended up leaving Eastwick before his contract was up. Prior to that he and Lucie has a head on collision and she called in sick until he was gone. Not pretty.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||01/20/2021|
Good stuff r55. That’s what the Gossip thread is missing. Just sayin’.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||01/20/2021|
You mean actual theatre gossip?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||01/20/2021|
Does anyone have the inside gossip as to why Over Here never toured? It seems like a natural show for touring.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||01/20/2021|
'Tis said that Patty and Maxene were not getting along well by the time the Broadway run ended. And the show really only existed as a vehicle for The Andrews Sisters. In fact, the plot revolved around the search for a third voice for the act, just as the actual sisters were now without their third voice.
Of course other performers could have tried it, including several who would soon be seen in "Four Girls Four." But in those days they knew better than to send out an iffy tour of a semi-hit.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||01/20/2021|
^^ The Andrews Sisters, Patty and Maxene, loathed each other. Their Broadway success only worsened their long-time sibling rivalry. (The third Andrews sister, Laverne the peacekeeper, had died years before.)
|by Anonymous||reply 60||01/20/2021|
Maxene Andrews was one of the first name entertainers to live openly as a lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||01/20/2021|
The tour was booked and set to go. Patty refused to sign. Maxine gave a scathing interview to Rex Reed at the time blaming the amateurish producers for the tour not happening. Maxine did a production with Margaret Whiting but it wasn’t the same.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||01/20/2021|
R43 I got you and LOVE you!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||01/20/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 64||01/20/2021|
Laurence Luckinbill was the star of Simon's Chapter Two when Lucie was appearing in TPOS. That's how they met.
Seems like a happy marriage. I saw her in concert once and she kept looking at me and smiling a lot. Sort of made me self-conscious. When it was over I stood up and turned around and noticed Luckinbill was sitting right behind me so it was him she was looking at a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||01/20/2021|
It was a complicated situation. The two remaining Andrews Sisters didn't negotiate or sign together, they negotiated separately. Patty had a much better agent and got a slightly better salary and all kinds of perks that Maxene didn't get (limo service to and from the theater, dinner delivered from a good restaurant, etc.). Maxene resented it all very much. Then during the run of the show, Maxene quietly came out as lesbian, going to girl bars after the show and hanging out with people like Patsy Kelly who was in No, No, Nanette. Fundie Christian Patty was horrified and the two sisters didn't speak for years, although they did have a reconciliation before their deaths.
Sorry, too tired to write more details but back in the 90s the National Enquirer did a full exposé of the situation and got most of it right.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||01/21/2021|
I saw the show and Patty was the star. Maxine was good but Patty had the ‘it factor.’ She nailed every laugh and the audience loved her.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||01/21/2021|
Meanwhile, back in Quogue....Does anyone know of any songs "cut" from TPOS? Were any of the songs in TPOS Hamlisch "Trunk" songs...
|by Anonymous||reply 68||01/21/2021|
Luckinbill was in the middle of divorcing Robin Strasser who he was co starring with in Chapter Two when he met Lucie.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||01/21/2021|
Do we need a separate "Lawrence Luckinbill" gossip thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||01/21/2021|
very impressed by the Cherry County Playhouse...Abe Vigoda! Never knew he did theater.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||01/21/2021|
A short but interesting Broadway resume, r71.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||01/21/2021|
So Luckinbill and Strasser were divorcing but still starring in the same play together?
|by Anonymous||reply 73||01/21/2021|
Maggie Smith and Robert Stephens were embroiled in a very nasty and vicious divorce while performing Private Lives in London. Those must have been interesting performances. When Smith did the show a year later on Broadway, Stephens wasn't involved.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||01/21/2021|
[quote]Do we need a separate "Lawrence Luckinbill" gossip thread?
No, but we could have a LAURENCE Luckinbill thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||01/21/2021|
John Standing was opposite her when I saw it in Denver, r74.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||01/21/2021|
[quote]John Standing was opposite her when I saw it in Denver, R74.
He also co-starred with Maggie when I saw "Private Lives" on Broadway in 1975 at the 46th Street Theatre.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||01/21/2021|
Wasn't she fabulous, r77? So adept at at Coward...and Shaw...and Shakespeare...
|by Anonymous||reply 78||01/21/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 79||01/21/2021|
I saw Maggie in "Private Lives" when the production was still on in the West End, and by the time I caught it (summer 1973) John Standing had already replaced Robert Stephens.
Angela was starring in "Gypsy" just down the road---good times.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||01/21/2021|
Angie got to Denver as well, r80. Yes....very good times.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||01/21/2021|
[quote]Wasn't she fabulous, [R77]? So adept at at Coward...and Shaw...and Shakespeare.
Fabulous indeed. I remember her performance in "Private Lives" as being quite broad. Her vocal delivery at times almost reminded me of Paul Lynde. And yet it all worked wonderfully.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||01/21/2021|
I should have worn green. Oh. I wore green the last time.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||01/22/2021|
So back to TPOS... Did anyone ever wonder what "Leon" was like?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||01/22/2021|
Well, r82, I wouldn't say Paul Lynde (that would be Alice Ghostley). I call it more quintessential Maggie Smith broadness that she alone possesses. And such timing. I still remember how laugh out loud funny she made the line: "I believe there was a stillborn one in 1902". I mean, how do you do that???
|by Anonymous||reply 85||01/22/2021|
Don't know about Leon, but I do remember that a Natalie Klein saw the show and threatened to sue.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||01/22/2021|
[quote]So back to TPOS... Did anyone ever wonder what "Leon" was like?
Not for a moment. For some reason, every mention of "Leon" annoyed me. I guess we were supposed to find the name funny in and of itself. Typical lazy Neil Simon shtick.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||01/22/2021|
There’s only one performance of “They’re Playing Our Song” that matters, and it’s MINE!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 88||01/22/2021|
As long as he needs Ellen...
|by Anonymous||reply 89||01/22/2021|
R85, lets not forget that Maggie Smith and Alice Ghostely were lifelong friends. They appeared together in New Faces.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||01/22/2021|
Alice accepting Maggie's Jean Brodie Oscar...
|by Anonymous||reply 91||01/22/2021|
Can someone answer the question about cut songs/trunk songs? I'm actually interested in that -- with all due respect to Dame Maggie.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||01/22/2021|
Leon/neon/Freeon/be on/pee on/Dionne... The possibilities are endless.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||01/22/2021|
[quote]lets not forget that Maggie Smith and Alice Ghostely were lifelong friends. They appeared together in New Faces.
They both appeared in "New Faces," but not together. Alice was in "New Faces of 1952" (which was filmed, as "New Faces"), and Maggie was in "New Faces of 1956."
|by Anonymous||reply 94||01/22/2021|
[quote] Can someone answer the question about cut songs/trunk songs?
If you check out the Reprise! L.A. video at R32, you'll see a song called "If You Remember Me" performed in place of "I Still Believe in Love." It's possible that that was a song cut from the original.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||01/22/2021|
Alice Ghostley was said to be heavily influenced by the style of Paul Lynde. Maggie Smith often mentioned famed UK comic Kenneth Williams as a major influence on her comic delivery.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||01/22/2021|
I saw a stock production of TPOS that had a different ending. Instead of Sonia saying ‘I’m so lucky’ the phone rang and it’s Leon who ended up becoming friends with Vernon. Leon is going through a bad breakup and Vernon says ‘I’ll be there in half an hour’. Blackout. A friend told me that’s the ending they used in London.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||01/22/2021|
[quote]Alice Ghostley was said to be heavily influenced by the style of Paul Lynde.
And Paul Lynde was said to have been heavily influenced by the style of Alice Ghostley. They were in "New Faces of 1952" together.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||01/22/2021|
I had a friend who had a theory that Leon was actually dead, and it was all in Sonia's crazed mind. Seriously...
|by Anonymous||reply 99||01/22/2021|
Over Here was enormous fun. I enjoyed it tremendously and it was staged better than Grease. Janie Sell was wonderful.
And it is the only thing I ever saw John Travolta in. Seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||01/22/2021|
Our own Erna was in the chorus of "New Feces of 1973."
|by Anonymous||reply 101||01/22/2021|
Birdland posting Lucie now
|by Anonymous||reply 102||01/23/2021|
Those Over Here clips looks wonderful and Janie Sell was just great.
I always thought Leon was some big black guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||01/23/2021|
I guess he thought Quogue was funny because it has a “k” sound
|by Anonymous||reply 104||01/24/2021|
It wasn't. The K sound thing had died out by then...
|by Anonymous||reply 105||01/24/2021|
Just how much did this show break out into the public consciousness? I noticed in the Tony Roberts-Stockard clips, the title song gets applause as soon as the chorus begins, as if it's a familiar hit song. That surprised me.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||01/25/2021|
I found that curious too, r106. My guess is its because they saw it on the Tony Awards broadcast. It never made Top 40, or anything like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||01/25/2021|
Lucie can’t even hang on to her own thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||01/25/2021|
[quote]Lucie can’t even hang on to her own thread.
Well, to be fair, it is Part 2 of a thread from 2015 about an inconsequential musical from 1979 that has never been revived on Broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||01/25/2021|
OMG. Those Tony Roberts/Stockard Channing clips are gruesome! They look totally trapped in this shit show. I'll bet they still have nightmares about matinee days during their run of TPOS. Fucking awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||01/25/2021|
Speaking of Tonys, I think that they are not having them this year in order for the whites in theater to deny me my numerous Tony awards!
|by Anonymous||reply 111||01/25/2021|
Just so you will STFU already.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||01/25/2021|
I wish Terence McNally was still here instead of Jeremy O. Harris.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||01/25/2021|
R106 and R107, the show got lots of exposure on local TV shows and it was usually the title song which was featured. More importantly, it was featured in the TV commercials which were run constantly in the NYC area. I think there was more than one version of the commercial but am open to correction.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||01/25/2021|
^ Like I said I think were other versions and some were longer. Still open to correction.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||01/25/2021|
I would love to see some Brit director have a go at it, and re-invent it, ala Cabaret or Carousel.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||01/25/2021|
That tv commercial plays like a SCTV parody of a Broadway tv commercial...
|by Anonymous||reply 117||01/25/2021|
That tv commercial doesn't mention Neil Simon. What was that about?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||01/25/2021|
How would TPOS be different if it was directed by Jeremy O. Harris?
|by Anonymous||reply 119||01/25/2021|
r199,. may I have your babies?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||01/25/2021|
And now for a word from our sponsors...
|by Anonymous||reply 121||01/25/2021|
The audience is eating it up in the Roberts/Channing clips. Seems like a crowd pleaser of a show.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||01/25/2021|
Only in the hands of engaging performers, r122.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||01/25/2021|
Whatever Happened to Rhonda Fherer?
|by Anonymous||reply 124||01/25/2021|
What ever happened to class?
|by Anonymous||reply 125||01/25/2021|
I'm always shocked that Stockard Channing has done as many musicals as she has. Her voice is tolerable in the right role, but she's never been much of a powerhouse singer. She managed to replace roles originated by Lucie Arnaz and Liza Minnelli on Broadway. How did that happen?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||01/25/2021|
No mention of Neil Simon in that commercial? Was he not box office at that point?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||01/25/2021|
Well, she seemed to display a lot of verve in TPOS that compensated for her lesser vocals, r126.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||01/25/2021|
r126 Stockard actually started in musicals. He first job was Two Gentlemen from Verona.
She was a big star from Grease when she replaced Lucie. She had been groomed for two sitcoms both of which flopped. She did TPOS on her hiatus but then the sitcom got cancelled. She still left though. Lucie was supposed to return after Stockard's run but for some reason didn't hence them putting understudy Rhonda Farer in (she's listed as Ronnie Farer on imdb and seemed to work a little bit after the show.)
Lucie was actually the first choice to replace Liza in The Rink but she wisely decided not too. Stockard was in a rough period around The Rink. She had two plays flop that season that were thought to be hot properties. Then she went into The Rink and it quickly closed without Liza there to sell tickets. Who knows why she accepted The Rink. May have needed the money or thought it would continue on because of Chita's Tony win.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||01/25/2021|
[quote]I would love to see some Brit director have a go at it, and re-invent it, ala Cabaret or Carousel.
Good luck, is all I can say. "Cabaret" and "Carousel" have depths to explore and first-rate scores. "They're Playing Our Song" has Neil Simon one-liners and songs that go in one ear and out the other.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||01/25/2021|
You don't think "Fill In The Words" is first-rate?
|by Anonymous||reply 131||01/26/2021|
for Gawd sake folks, it's a minor musical entertainment, not even close to Cabaret or Carousel....
|by Anonymous||reply 132||01/26/2021|
"Fallin'" is a very good song, and very good first number in a musical. Not a classic "I Want," but the want is implied. And the notion of starting with a ballad was smart for a small musical. Again, before the nay-sayers pounce, I'm [italic]not[/italic] saying the show is in any ways a masterpiece, but it's better than haters say.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||01/26/2021|
Was "Fallin" in the LA production, or was that written for New York?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||01/26/2021|
I think a director could "Meta" the show, and expose its emptiness as sort of a new dramatic fuel.
Or at least, eliminate the car.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||01/26/2021|
How about TPOS...on Ice!
|by Anonymous||reply 136||01/26/2021|
[quote][How about TPOS...on Ice!
How about TPOS -- ALL NUDE!
|by Anonymous||reply 137||01/26/2021|
Having done the research, not sure I need to see Rhonda Feher nude...Nor Tony Roberts.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||01/26/2021|
They could set it in the frigid tropics!
|by Anonymous||reply 139||01/26/2021|
LUCIE ARNAZ SEESAW AUDIO
|by Anonymous||reply 140||01/26/2021|
Can you imagine how great TPOS might have been if Cy Coleman wrote the score? Wonder why Simon asked Hamlisch...
|by Anonymous||reply 141||01/26/2021|
My memory is the idea for TPOS came from Simon listening to Hamlisch go on and on about his relationship with Carol Bayer Sager, and it struck him to write the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||01/26/2021|
Simon should have been less impulsive, R142.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||01/26/2021|
It was their story not Simon’s
|by Anonymous||reply 144||01/26/2021|
On a hot summer day in 1978, Neil Simon called. He had his sights set on turning his play “The Gingerbread Lady” into a Broadway Musical. (An unlikely idea, but who was I to argue with Neil Simon?) He had already written hilarious books for the musicals “Sweet Charity”, “Little Me”, and “Promises, Promises.” It never dawned on me that my stories about Carole Bayer Sager and me had started the Simon creative juices flowing. I was puzzled when one day, a few months later, Carole and I received a brown envelope from Neil. I couldn’t figure out what was in it, since by then we had abandoned “The Gingerbread Lady”. We found a typewritten manuscript inside…
|by Anonymous||reply 145||01/26/2021|
It's a much more entertaining show than the "Let's take a movie we've all seen 10 times and put some songs in it and call it a musical" thinking that has become what Broadway is.
Keep it closed. We aren't missing much.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||01/26/2021|
Oh Dear....Robert Klein going solo. How could anyone watch this? How could anyone do this 8 times a week. WTF?!
|by Anonymous||reply 147||01/27/2021|
It will take a few years for broadway to rebound. I predict very few shows will reopen but off and off off broadway will thrive thanks to smaller theatres and crowds. The era of the big glitzy overpriced musicals is over for now. Time to revive Same Time, Next Year and (dare I say) TPOS.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||01/27/2021|
I think its the exact opposite. The big ones will return and thrive; the smaller, independent will wither.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||01/27/2021|
Who "choreographed" that Tony Randall video?
|by Anonymous||reply 150||01/27/2021|
I haven't seen mugging like that since Dana Plato held up a video store.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||01/28/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 152||01/28/2021|
the closed caption in that Tony Randall video labels Robert Klein as Richard Kline (Three's Company)
|by Anonymous||reply 153||01/28/2021|
Elaine Zayak skated to They're Playing Our song..
|by Anonymous||reply 154||01/28/2021|
God bless Elaine Zayak. God bless.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||01/29/2021|
More Hamlischian skating
|by Anonymous||reply 156||01/29/2021|
Here's Tom Conti on the London cast...He makes Klein seem like Hugh Jackman.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||01/30/2021|
I've generally heard people liked Conti in the show
|by Anonymous||reply 158||01/30/2021|
How could they like any musical with that voice in your leading man...
|by Anonymous||reply 159||01/30/2021|
Conti and Paulette Collins did the West End production of Romantic Comedy in the '80s. Anthony Perkins was in the Broadway production (of RC) and had musical experience. He'd have been rather old for Vernon, but maybe it could have worked opposite Anita Gillette?
|by Anonymous||reply 160||01/30/2021|
And now that I've looked it up, Anthony Perkins was 48 in the fall of 1980. Anita was 44. Tony Roberts was 41.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||01/30/2021|
Any relation to PauLINE Collins, r160? Who, by the way, turned 80 this past year.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||01/30/2021|
D'oh! Speaking of older actors joining established shows, did I Love My Wife do any sort of adjusting when the likes of James Naughton, Joanna Gleason, Ilene Graff and Lenny Baker and their replacements (30ish or thereabouts) were succeeded by the Smothers Brothers, Barbara Sharma and Janie Sell (~40)?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||01/30/2021|
Miss Barbara Sharma!
|by Anonymous||reply 164||01/30/2021|
Romantic Comedy should have run longer. Perkins and Mia Farrow were great together but business fell off sharply during the run. Karen Valentine and Keith Baxter played the final month on broadway then took it on tour where it flopped.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||01/30/2021|
Sharma was obviously a good Fosse dancer. I wonder why she didn't do Chicago. I could absolutely imagine her doing Roxie. It would have been the right time in her career as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||01/30/2021|
I also wonder why Romantic Comedy didn't have a longer run.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||01/30/2021|
R116, have you lost your mind? Trevor Nunn is just what this show deserves.
Besides, it was revived in London about 10 years ago or so at The Menier Chocolate Factory with some reality tv star. It got TERRIBLE reviews.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||01/30/2021|
R168 I had quite forgotten about that revival. Connie Fisher won the TV competition "How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria?," which got her the star part in Andrew Lloyd Webber's 2006 London revival of "The Sound of Music." She won acclaim for that, but had much less luck with "They're Playing Our Song" in London and "Wonderful Town" on a UK tour
|by Anonymous||reply 169||01/30/2021|
[quote] D'oh! Speaking of older actors joining established shows, did I Love My Wife do any sort of adjusting when the likes of James Naughton, Joanna Gleason, Ilene Graff and Lenny Baker and their replacements (30ish or thereabouts) were succeeded by the Smothers Brothers, Barbara Sharma and Janie Sell (~40)?
Yes, Rose, the two male characters no longer kissed each other because they were brothers.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||01/30/2021|
Did anyone see Donna as one of the Sonias?
|by Anonymous||reply 171||01/30/2021|
Donna is one of the Sonias in the footage at R30. But the photographer didn't know that Donna would become a two-time Tony winner, so he never zooms in on her.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||01/30/2021|
You sure? I tried to recognize her
|by Anonymous||reply 173||01/30/2021|
R173 Donna is in the cast list as a Sonia in the Playbill for the TPOS performance captured in that video. Of course, there's always the possibility that a slip announcing a swing on for Donna could have fallen out of the program. But I think I found her among the Sonias.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||01/30/2021|
Around the 4:25 part in the video at r30 it sort of sounds like Donna when the backup singers come in really loud.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||01/30/2021|
Tom Conti sounds awful on the London cast recording. Did they change the nationality of the characters in the London version or was Conti's ghastly performance his dreadful attempt at playing an American? He should have been slapped viciously and prevented from singing or playing an American ever again.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||01/31/2021|
And it doesn't seem that Gemma Craven had much of a West End career after TPOS either...
|by Anonymous||reply 177||01/31/2021|
R177, according to Wiki she won an Olivier for TPOS. Wtf?
[quote] In London's West End, she starred opposite Tom Conti in the musical They're Playing Our Song for which she won a Laurence Olivier Award for her performance, the lead role in South Pacific, and in Noël Coward's Private Lives opposite Marc Sinden, Tony Anholt and Anholt's wife Tracey Childs which toured throughout 1991 and into 1992. She also played Josie in Boy George's Taboo and features on the OCR singing "Independent Woman".
|by Anonymous||reply 178||01/31/2021|
Craven will always have a place in American filmgoers hearts for her performance in Slipper and the Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||01/31/2021|
Oh, R175, did you hear someone singing flat?
|by Anonymous||reply 180||01/31/2021|
[quote] Craven will always have a place in American filmgoers hearts for her performance in Slipper and the Rose.
Honey, even Richard Chamberlain doesn't remember that movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||01/31/2021|
R181, that's funny. A good friend was working for William Morris and was making a delivery to his house. She broke protocol and asked him to reenact the last scene from Slipper and the Rose. He laughed, rolled his eyes and said that was 20 years ago, how did you expect me to remember that.
How could anyone think someone named Gemma Craven could have a career in showbiz. Maybe porn.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||01/31/2021|
I saw The Slipper and the Rose at Radio City the week it opened. My partner and I thoroughly enjoyed it and applauded at the end with the rest of the audience. Not a great film but a real audience pleaser. Gorgeous physical production and cinematography with a cute Sherman Brothers score and such likeable performances.
I'm probably overpraising it but Gary and I had such a nice afternoon. I miss that Manhattan.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||01/31/2021|
Old show queen
|by Anonymous||reply 184||01/31/2021|
I saw Donna as one of the Sonia’s. Very round face and a little chubby. I think she either dropped out of college or had just graduated when she got cast. Andy Roth who played one of the Vernons was adorable.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||01/31/2021|
You type that like it's a bad thing, r184.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||01/31/2021|
Murphy is in the clip at r30.
Someone asked her on twitter and she said yes.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||01/31/2021|
R187 Love it! Thanks for letting us know.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||01/31/2021|
Donna as Sonia would actually make me sit through the show again...
|by Anonymous||reply 189||02/01/2021|
I worked with one of the musical directors from TPOS and he thought Anita Gillette was the best “Sonia” of the bunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||02/01/2021|
Well, r190, Anita has *verve*. You can never go wrong with *verve*.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||02/01/2021|
Anita morphed from leading lady on stage to character actress in film and tv beautifully. She doesn’t have a lot to do in Moonstruck but she makes every second on screen count.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||02/01/2021|
I love that TPOS was a WALLOPING hit... We really don't use the word walloping enough, I think...
|by Anonymous||reply 193||02/01/2021|
Watched an old L&O with her the other day, r192. She really is a fine actress...
|by Anonymous||reply 194||02/01/2021|
Well, it *can* have a negative connotation, r193.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||02/01/2021|
"Walloping" from Gene Shalit didn't mean much to anyone with a brain...
|by Anonymous||reply 196||02/01/2021|
Serious question: Whatever happened to Robert Moore? Who was he that he was directing such a high-profile musical? I'm new to musical theatre history, but I have never heard him mentioned anywhere in the books I've read.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||02/01/2021|
R197 Robert Moore was first a Broadway performer then a terrific director of such hits as "The Boys in the Band," "Deathtrap," and Neil Simon's "Promises, "Promises" and "Last of the Red Hot Lovers," all prior to "They're Playing Our Song."
|by Anonymous||reply 198||02/01/2021|
R197, Robert Moore also directed a few movies, including Neil Simon's "Murder by Death." His acting roles included Phyllis's gay brother (who she thinks is dating Rhoda) on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show." He also played a disabled gay man opposite Liza Minnelli in "Tell Me That You Love Me, Junie Moon." Moore died of complications from AIDS in 1984. He was 57.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||02/01/2021|
Here he is!
|by Anonymous||reply 200||02/01/2021|
He looks like one of Vernon's "boys"
|by Anonymous||reply 201||02/01/2021|
Here's Gemma in "She Loves Me"
|by Anonymous||reply 202||02/01/2021|
Murder By Death gave us this very useful gif, r199...
|by Anonymous||reply 203||02/01/2021|
Lorna and Richard can be yours for $9...Which is probably what a ticket cost on their tour....
|by Anonymous||reply 204||02/02/2021|
His name was "Dick Ryder"? I guess that makes him a bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||02/02/2021|
Why is Tom Mallow the producer and Manny Azenburg?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||02/02/2021|
R205, I knew Richard Ryder. He always went by "Richard" and not "Dick."
R206, Tom Mallow produced tours.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||02/02/2021|
There’s Ellen Greene, Lorna, Rhonda… How many tours were there?
|by Anonymous||reply 208||02/02/2021|
According to IBDB (which is getting better at this sort of thing), two. Looks like the first one, which started with Victor Garber and Ellen Greene, had more extended engagements. Also, Victor did the tour for more than a year longer than Ellen. He ended up acting opposite Marsha Skaggs. Anita Gillette ended the tour, opposite Ray Buktenica and then Dick Latessa. The second tour, with Lorna Luft and John Hammil, ended up with Richard Ryder and for Sonia, June Gable and Dawn Wells.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||02/02/2021|
Wow...Two tours for a mid-level show? Did the turntable tour?
|by Anonymous||reply 210||02/03/2021|
It obviously was a cheap show to tour, r210. O/T, but it just struck me that I saw the Raisin tour and remember absolutely nothing about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||02/03/2021|
I saw the tour with Lorna and Ryder at the Milwaukee PAC. I remember the papers made a big deal that one of Vernon's boys was from Milwaukee. Those were the days...
|by Anonymous||reply 212||02/03/2021|
is it too boring to cast a new production here? How about Michael C Hall and Danielle Brooks?
|by Anonymous||reply 213||02/03/2021|
Someone must have broken into Elaine Joyce's house. Simon's original script is on eBay.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||02/03/2021|
If you're looking for musical tour info, this is a great site.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||02/03/2021|
Have we talked about how there was supposedly going to be a movie adaptation (produced by Ray Stark, natch) in the early 80s with John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John? They ended up making Two of a Kind instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||02/03/2021|
[quote]They ended up making Two of a Kind instead.
Apparently they were holding out for even worse material.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||02/03/2021|
The script read like a talky musical that two Jewish New Yorkers like Elliott Gould and Barbra Streisand might have been cast in if it had been produced in the early 60s.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||02/03/2021|
I saw Susan Anton as Sonia in stock. She looked like Malibu Barbie.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||02/03/2021|
I think "With One Look" is one of us! The Australian TPOS just posted to youtube! Thank you "With One Look"!
|by Anonymous||reply 220||02/03/2021|
My pleasure. Not the greatest recording. LP is a little scratchy. Not sure if there’s a cd out there. Enjoy :). And thank you to whoever posted the 1980 video clips. I enjoyed them very much.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||02/03/2021|
If anybody’s the real star of the show, it’s Ralph Burns.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||02/03/2021|
Really great work
|by Anonymous||reply 223||02/03/2021|
It had a summer stock tour starring John Hillner and Lauren Mitchell.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||02/03/2021|
[quote]It had a summer stock tour starring John Hillner and Lauren Mitchell.
And I missed it!?
|by Anonymous||reply 225||02/03/2021|
they were understudies who got promoted to the leads for the tour. He was actually very good. Went on to do a number of shows. She became a producer briefly. (must have married money.)
|by Anonymous||reply 226||02/03/2021|
I think some regional should run "TPOS" and "The Last Five Years" in rep with the same actors. It could be a whole neurotic jewish composers season!
|by Anonymous||reply 227||02/04/2021|
What was the deal with Carole Bayer Sager first getting hitched to Marvin Hamlisch and then to Burt Bacharach? She was a mediocre lyricist, so was she just fucking name composers to get herself nominated for awards and earn royalty checks?
|by Anonymous||reply 228||02/04/2021|
Marvin never married Carole.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||02/04/2021|
Up next: A massive thread about Barnum.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||02/04/2021|
Thank god I'm old. Count me in..
|by Anonymous||reply 231||02/04/2021|
Teri White in TPOS. I'd pay premium.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||02/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 233||02/04/2021|
Paul Simon as Vernon and Carly Simon as Sonia in "They're Playing Our Retirement Song" for nostalgic New Yorkers.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||02/04/2021|
And it is interesting because Neil Simon also collaborated with a woman lyricist, the much more talented Dorothy Fields, on [italic]Sweet Charity[/italic] and collaborated with Burt Bacharach on [italic]Promises, Promises[/italic].
|by Anonymous||reply 235||02/04/2021|
Carole Bayer Sager has written some very good songs including the Gay anthem Come In From the Rain
|by Anonymous||reply 236||02/04/2021|
Carole Bayer Sager is painful to watch in interviews she's had so much plastic surgery. Anyone read her book?
|by Anonymous||reply 237||02/04/2021|
Her book is very entertaining, and she is honest about all the surgery and more...
|by Anonymous||reply 238||02/04/2021|
[quote] What was the deal with Carole Bayer Sager first getting hitched to Marvin Hamlisch and then to Burt Bacharach? She was a mediocre lyricist, so was she just fucking name composers to get herself nominated for awards and earn royalty checks?
It worked. She won an Oscar for the Theme from [italic]Arthur[/italic].
|by Anonymous||reply 239||02/04/2021|
She sure didn't fuck me, r239.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||02/04/2021|
[quote] It worked. She won an Oscar for the Theme from Arthur.
Thanks to my one line!
|by Anonymous||reply 241||02/04/2021|
Ha-ha, beat ya to it!
|by Anonymous||reply 242||02/04/2021|
"Honest about all the plastic surgery"? What's honest about plastic surgery?
|by Anonymous||reply 243||02/04/2021|
And Peter Allen at R241, you stole that line from an announcement made by the pilot of one of your flights. Four damn writers to compose one song and the only good thing about it was still something that someone else came up with.
This is like "Queen Bey" grabbing songwriter credits for just adding vapid lines such as "Ooh yeah" or "Fuck me boo" to her songs.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||02/04/2021|
How cute is this, they're doing the logo!
|by Anonymous||reply 245||02/05/2021|
[quote]How cute is this, they're doing the logo!
The guy appears to be a little reluctant to get too close to someone named Gaby Gasser.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||02/05/2021|
What about his juhnke, r246?
|by Anonymous||reply 247||02/05/2021|
Is there a Harold Juhnke cast recording? Bootleg?
|by Anonymous||reply 248||02/06/2021|
R248 Never fear---there is indeed a German cast recording. I have the LP!
|by Anonymous||reply 249||02/06/2021|
So you have Juhnke in your trunk, r249?
|by Anonymous||reply 250||02/06/2021|
Happy Birthday, Robert Klein.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||02/08/2021|
I miss this thread. Anyone have any stories of doing the show in their high school?
|by Anonymous||reply 252||02/08/2021|
Don't high schools usually like to do shows with bigger ensemble casts, so everyone gets to be on stage?
|by Anonymous||reply 253||02/08/2021|
I suspect Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School staged it with Timmy as Vernon and Lourdes Leon as Sonia.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||02/08/2021|
[quote]Don't high schools usually like to do shows with bigger ensemble casts, so everyone gets to be on stage?
Yes, sometimes even adding walk-on characters not in the original script. "They Playing Our Song" would have no appeal for high schools.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||02/08/2021|
I'm now imagining a high school production where there's an absurdly high number of Voices.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||02/08/2021|
OMG - I'm the original OP. I'm a DL LEGEND!
|by Anonymous||reply 257||02/08/2021|
Not until you hear from Blackglama, r257.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||02/09/2021|
[quote] Have we talked about how there was supposedly going to be a movie adaptation (produced by Ray Stark, natch) in the early 80s with John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John? They ended up making Two of a Kind instead.
Meanwhile, Stark gave musicals a rest after [italic]Annie[/italic] and collaborated with Neil Simon on the megabomb [italic]The Slugger's Wife[/italic] instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||02/09/2021|
I think there were 10 seconds where Lucie was mentioned as a possible Grace Farrell in the ANNIE film. Marilyn Beck or someone like that printed it, I think...
|by Anonymous||reply 260||02/09/2021|
What about Klein as Warbucks? THAT I'd pay to see...
|by Anonymous||reply 261||02/09/2021|
This thread has finally run out of gas. Like Lucie's career 40 years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||02/09/2021|
Let's stop the Lucie bashing....She made choices...
|by Anonymous||reply 263||02/09/2021|
Almost all amateur and some regional productions have added the chorus to the title number which takes away a lot of the charm. Being a voice must have been the easiest job on broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||02/09/2021|
[quote]This thread has run out of gas.
Then may I present something different. This has been posted at DL before, but for those who haven't seen it, here is Divine in Peter Pan Live! at the Melonville War Memorial Auditorium.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||02/09/2021|
It doesn't run out of gas until *I* say it runs out of gas, r262.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||02/09/2021|
Helen Lawson had an entire chorus line of hunky, high-kicking gas jockeys in her Gulf ads.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||02/09/2021|
Can someone please fill in the words?
|by Anonymous||reply 268||02/10/2021|
The toy piano idea was simple and smart.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||02/10/2021|
R269 = Schroeder
|by Anonymous||reply 270||02/10/2021|
If I had the words, I'd have a song ...
|by Anonymous||reply 271||02/10/2021|
Do you think Marvin ever tried that when he and Carole had a fight? He'd just whip out the toy piano, play a few notes and down come the panties? ("I think I'll wear black now!"
|by Anonymous||reply 272||02/10/2021|
I picture them writing songs with the ease of Ann Sothern and Robert Young in Lady Be Good.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||02/10/2021|
r 273, will you marry me?
|by Anonymous||reply 274||02/10/2021|
Francine and Rodney sing "Right."
|by Anonymous||reply 275||02/10/2021|
I'm obsessed. Who and where and when are Francine and Rodney?
|by Anonymous||reply 276||02/11/2021|
"They Playing Our Song" opened on Broadway at the Imperial Theatre exactly 42 years ago today, Feb. 11, 1979.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||02/11/2021|
^^ Make that "They're Playing Our Song." ^^
|by Anonymous||reply 278||02/11/2021|
Burn Brae Dinner Theatre, 1987 Ran for 5 months!
This is the understudy Sonia. And apparently they had a matinee Vernon.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||02/11/2021|
For the real obsessives (apparently a lot here) there's a script signed by Simon and Hamlisch available on Ebay.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||02/11/2021|
Well, we could all chip in and buy it for the DL performing arts library.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||02/11/2021|
Let our Troupe entertain your Group!
|by Anonymous||reply 282||02/12/2021|
Some performances sold out!
|by Anonymous||reply 283||02/12/2021|
That's the thing about TPOS....It's a nothing show that, during its day, really sold tickets. Who can figure?
|by Anonymous||reply 284||02/12/2021|
I saw The Slipper and the Rose at Radio City as well. It was the Christmas movie. Yes I miss that New York too.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||02/12/2021|
How about doing it gay with Jonathan Groff and Neil Patrick Harris. They can alternate roles. Vernon and Sonny.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||02/13/2021|
This thread is ovah...
|by Anonymous||reply 287||02/14/2021|
Then, r287, like the phoenix...
|by Anonymous||reply 288||02/14/2021|
They need a sequel where Sonia ditches Vernon and marries a philandering narcissist named Burt.
"They're Playing His Song"
|by Anonymous||reply 289||02/14/2021|
WithOneLook (who obvsly is here) just post full audio of the original Broadway cast
|by Anonymous||reply 290||02/15/2021|
YES! YES! YES! Don't say a word now...
|by Anonymous||reply 291||02/15/2021|
Can't wait for the audio of the burn brae production!
|by Anonymous||reply 292||02/15/2021|
Are there really "People who are not afraid to die"? What was Carole Bayer Sager thinking?
|by Anonymous||reply 293||02/15/2021|
she was wishing Marvin Hamlisch's cocklet stretched between the moon and New York City.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||02/15/2021|
I'm afraid to fly. And I don't know why.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||02/15/2021|
r295 = Erica Jong
|by Anonymous||reply 296||02/15/2021|
Miss Ellen Greene
|by Anonymous||reply 297||02/15/2021|
I want to have "With One Look's" babies...
|by Anonymous||reply 298||02/15/2021|
Did Ellen Greene play the part in any other city but Chicago? Lucky Chicagoans...
|by Anonymous||reply 299||02/17/2021|
Ellen only played Chicago. I believe it was a 6 month engagement.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||02/17/2021|
I'm amazed it could sustain a six month run...
|by Anonymous||reply 301||02/17/2021|
...not to mention 1.5 DL threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||02/17/2021|
Rewinding to the Simon production before Song, anybody have strong feelings about Chapter Two?
|by Anonymous||reply 303||02/17/2021|
Ask that cunt Anita Gillette.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||02/17/2021|
I saw Chapter Two with Larry Luckinbill and then wife Robin Strasser. I believe the marriage ended during their run. I thought she was quite good. He was fine. The play is too long but it’s not the worst thing he’s written. Anita, btw, replaced Pamela Bellwood during rehearsals.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||02/17/2021|
Sounds like Anita made a career of replacing much younger women in roles she was too old to play.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||02/17/2021|
Maybe Anita's preparing to play Elphaba?
|by Anonymous||reply 307||02/18/2021|
In Carole Bayer Sager's autobiography, she points out that by the time the show was written, she and Hamlisch were essentially over as a couple. She also writes that she thought he was bi-polar.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||02/18/2021|
She also admits because the show was so cheap to produce, it had recouped before they left L.A. Those were the days...
|by Anonymous||reply 309||02/18/2021|
I imagine a lot of those Neil Simon shows recouped quickly.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||02/18/2021|
It's sad that Simon's reputation has diminished so much. Yes, the shows are jokey but funny is funny and no one has really shown up who can write funny for the theater. Most of what passes these days has nowhere near his level of craftsmanship, even if the result is dated or out of fashion. And now with general anti-old-white-man backlash, he may never come back into fashion. Pity.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||02/19/2021|
I think you're right r311, and one of the reasons for maintaining this profoundly interesting thread on TPOS is to keep a public celebration and examination of Simon alive!
|by Anonymous||reply 312||02/19/2021|
Sid Caesar was on Dick Cavett last night. He was doing the national tour of Last of the Red Hot Lovers with Elaine Hyman, Jill O'Hara and Doris Roberts. I saw a summer tour of it with George Gobel. The only performance I really remember is Jane Curtin's.
|by Anonymous||reply 313||02/19/2021|
Manny Azenberg and Morton Gottleib were classy producers and made their investors lots of $$$. Same Time, Next Year has recouped by opening night.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||02/19/2021|
Really, r314? With that enormous cast?
|by Anonymous||reply 315||02/19/2021|
Jane Curtin did Last of the Red Hot Lovers opposite George Gobel?
|by Anonymous||reply 316||02/19/2021|
1972, r316, she played Bobbi Michele. I saw the production here...
|by Anonymous||reply 317||02/19/2021|
R315. LOL. Yes it was cheap to produce but that would not happen today.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||02/19/2021|
I NEVER miss a Jane Curtain comedy!
|by Anonymous||reply 319||02/19/2021|
r319, you ignorant slut.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||02/19/2021|
sic transit gloria mundi...
|by Anonymous||reply 321||02/22/2021|
[quote]sic transit gloria mundi...
Also Gloria Stivic.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||02/22/2021|
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|by Anonymous||reply 325||02/22/2021|
Gloria Mundy's pussy stinks!
|by Anonymous||reply 326||02/22/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 327||02/23/2021|
Interesting the orchestration is different than Broadway.
|by Anonymous||reply 328||02/24/2021|
That's what tryouts are for, r328.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||02/24/2021|
They released a single of "Falling"....What could they have been thinking? Wasn't Casablanca primarily a disco label? Maybe the Coke was flowing...
|by Anonymous||reply 330||02/25/2021|
Bump. This. Thread. Not just for tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||Yesterday at 4:34 PM|