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Eldergays, can you explain The Prince of Tides to me?

I'm watching it on The Criterion Channel. What a piece of sappy, cloying, sentimental shit. Nick Nolte is AWFUL. And there are no words for Streisand. How did this thing get good reviews and seven Oscar nominations?

by Anonymousreply 71December 26, 2021 9:40 AM

That’s the Prince of Tide, stugots

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by Anonymousreply 1January 17, 2021 11:13 PM

I take it that you haven't seen "The Mirror Has Two Faces,' OP?

by Anonymousreply 2January 17, 2021 11:15 PM

Barbra- shopping for a man on TV and movies as usual- used the film as a casting couch. Unfortunately for her, Nolte (and others) were uninterested.

She turned the film into a soft-focus vehicle to showcase her deluded belief that she is a hot mama. Expanding the tole of the Psychiatrist til she was a co-star, then changing the plot so that the male character couldn't resist her sexiness.

by Anonymousreply 3January 17, 2021 11:41 PM

I remember lol in the theater at the ending.

by Anonymousreply 4January 17, 2021 11:50 PM

The worst movie of Streisand's career. Laughingly bad. The acting is some of the worst I've ever seen. "Showgirls" bad. Especially by non-talent Kate Nelligan, who sported hilariously bad wigs and makeup, and who was NOMINATED for this shit. But Jennifer Lawrence has an Oscar, so...

"Showgirls" is better. Because it at least it manages to entertain. I wish "The Prince Of Tides" had never been made. It's that bad.

by Anonymousreply 5January 18, 2021 12:03 AM

It's long, it's boring, but Barbra's nails were like buttah.

by Anonymousreply 6January 18, 2021 12:05 AM

Like 10 sticks of buttah.

by Anonymousreply 7January 18, 2021 12:08 AM

Like 10 sticks of buttah lashed together in a roughhewn manner.

by Anonymousreply 8January 18, 2021 12:10 AM

I thought Kate Nelligan was superb.

by Anonymousreply 9January 18, 2021 12:14 AM

I was verkempt!

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by Anonymousreply 10January 18, 2021 12:19 AM

Isn’t Barbra’s character committing some ethical violations in this movie? Shouldn’t she have had her license revoked?

by Anonymousreply 11January 18, 2021 12:19 AM

I'm not sure anyone can explain The Prince of Tides.

by Anonymousreply 12January 18, 2021 12:21 AM

At the end of every day I drive through the city of Charleston and I cross the bridge that will take me home. I feel the words building inside me, I can't stop them, or tell you why I say them, but as I reach the top of the bridge these words come to me in a whisper. I say these words as a prayer, as regret, as praise, I say: Lowenstein... Lowenstein...

by Anonymousreply 13January 18, 2021 12:29 AM

The book is very good, extremely moving and well written by Pat Conroy. The movie is all about her Nails.

by Anonymousreply 14January 18, 2021 12:31 AM

Like [italic]The Color Purple[/italic], the book was way better than the movie. Both directors made too many compromises with both films. The screenplays for both films were mere shadows of the novels on which they were based. Spielberg pandered to the mainstream audiences, eliminating a lot of the racial and sexual elements that made the novel so engrossing to read. Streisand's ego expanded her part, reduced Tom Wingo's sister's role and completely eliminated the older brother, who was so important in Pat Conroy's novel. I liked Nolte in TPOT; Kate Nelligan was the terrible one.

by Anonymousreply 15January 18, 2021 12:32 AM

I'll tell Nick Nolte, 'Stand there!'

Tight on my legs, nails, and hair!

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by Anonymousreply 16January 18, 2021 12:35 AM

Agree with R15 in the book being WAY better than the film.

In fact, the film is a maudlin piece of shit. And without the character of the brother, it makes little sense.

In contrast, I think the novel is wonderful. But then I'm a huge fan of Pat Conroy (The Lords of Discipline, The Great Santini, The Water Is Wide).

by Anonymousreply 17January 18, 2021 12:47 AM

I don't remember it getting particularly good reviews, aside from Nick Nolte's performance.

by Anonymousreply 18January 18, 2021 12:48 AM

It’s a very embarrassing film. She sleeps with her patients brother, who she had been counseling. She is also very ugly and it’s full of weird closeups of her.

by Anonymousreply 19January 18, 2021 12:54 AM

Or sister? I can’t remember

by Anonymousreply 20January 18, 2021 12:54 AM

Pat Conroy's a hack. He had one theme: I LOVE my mother I HATE my mother I LOVE my mother I HATE my mother I LOVE my mother I HATE my mother I LOVE my mother I HATE my mother and Beach Music is the worst book I've ever read.

by Anonymousreply 21January 18, 2021 1:01 AM

I physically cringed when Nolte's character breaks down and cries in Streisand's arms. No such moment happened in the book, and rather than being cathartic, it just showed how cheap and shallow the movie was in comparison.

by Anonymousreply 22January 18, 2021 1:23 AM

I found a copy of it in one of those portable libraries everyone has in their front yards.

by Anonymousreply 23January 18, 2021 1:27 AM

It's my dream to go play football in the park with a hot guy/father figure -- pathetic, at my age, but...they call it getting 'stuck' for a reason.

I thought the relationship between Babs' son and Nolte was sweet.

by Anonymousreply 24January 18, 2021 1:30 AM

At the time, I thought it was hideous and wondered if her nails would be nominated for an Oscar. It was one of a series of movies in which she tried to convince her audience she was attractive.

by Anonymousreply 25January 18, 2021 2:10 AM

Lol!

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by Anonymousreply 26January 18, 2021 2:17 AM

The book was sublime, one of my all time favorites.

by Anonymousreply 27January 18, 2021 2:21 AM

Someone jumps off a pier, right?

by Anonymousreply 28January 18, 2021 2:29 AM

As a gayling, I was obsessed with this movie. I was also sleeping with a married man at the time, so... Rewatching it recently didn’t do much for me. It has an absolutely gorgeous score, though.

As many have already said, the book is infinitely better than the film.

by Anonymousreply 29January 18, 2021 2:32 AM

Another movie about sodomy rape. How many are there now?

by Anonymousreply 30January 18, 2021 2:45 AM

And I remember people (mostly female) were dismayed that Babs wasn't Oscar nominated for Best Director! I'm shocked that it was a Best Picture nominee. Melinda Dillion who plays Nolte's suicidal sister is tossed aside for various subplots and character conflicts and flashbacks and a romance between Babs and her nails. Awful, unwieldy script made me fast forward on VHS.

by Anonymousreply 31January 18, 2021 2:46 AM

The ending when he hears her name called to him is so cheeeeezy

by Anonymousreply 32January 18, 2021 3:36 AM

The Prince of Tides is the Braveheart of Yentls.

by Anonymousreply 33January 18, 2021 3:40 AM

Barbra has a big nose.

by Anonymousreply 34January 18, 2021 4:25 AM

Oh good, I'm glad I'm not crazy. It's so fucking horrible. And the southern fried accents (especially the dreadful Blythe Danner) are painful.

by Anonymousreply 35January 18, 2021 5:30 AM

She had other priorities while making that movie.

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by Anonymousreply 36January 18, 2021 5:39 AM

Is this the one where people said she screamed at Jason, "Act like a man!"?

by Anonymousreply 37January 18, 2021 5:46 AM

No, that was Tuesday.

by Anonymousreply 38January 18, 2021 5:50 AM

Remember when Babs played a high class prostitute? I mean when she opened the door whose dream fuck is that? Maybe if she answered backward and naked because she does have the best ass...

by Anonymousreply 39January 18, 2021 5:51 AM

Lowenstein was simply the poor man's Bob Newhart. Now do you understand?

by Anonymousreply 40January 18, 2021 5:52 AM

It got Jason Gould his SAG card.

by Anonymousreply 41January 18, 2021 10:40 AM

It really is a self-indulgent, alternate reality shitfest. Barbra as a shrink and a sex-kitten. LMFAO.

by Anonymousreply 42January 18, 2021 10:52 AM

R26 that’s how my shrink & I usually end our sessions. What’s so funny, is that not normal?

by Anonymousreply 43January 18, 2021 12:46 PM

I didn't read the book, so no frame of reference. I thought the best parts were the flash back scenes with Wingo as a child. And yes, the scene where he breaks down in her office was Very cringeworthy.

by Anonymousreply 44January 18, 2021 1:57 PM

Who's the fucking elderly ham they cast as the Wingo father? Jesus, all the actors to choose from and Streisand picks THAT guy??

by Anonymousreply 45January 18, 2021 5:00 PM

Mama promised me it would be my star turn. What happened?

by Anonymousreply 46January 18, 2021 5:05 PM

You couldn't act like a MAN!

by Anonymousreply 47January 18, 2021 5:05 PM

"Nick Nolte is AWFUL"

I saw the movie again recently and couldn't get over what a scenery-chewing HAM Nolte was in it.

by Anonymousreply 48February 2, 2021 2:12 AM

I don't mind the breakdown scene. I thought Nolte was good in that scene.

The problem with the movie when I watched it recently was that everyone acts like they're in a play or '70s sitcom. Everybody is shouting at each other or talking at a high pitch. They're all playing to the back row.

by Anonymousreply 49February 2, 2021 2:18 AM

Nick Nolte was excellent, OP.

by Anonymousreply 50February 2, 2021 2:22 AM

Streisand's outfits when she's seeing the suicidal sister in the hospital are just ludicrous.

My brother in law trains psychologists. I can remember him discussing how they had to have a woman teacher tell a trainee that she was dressing too provocatively for the job. You are dealing with troubled people. You don't need to make them feel worse by coming in all glammed up.

And what annoys me about the film also is the comic "sounds of New York" you hear in street scenes. Always someone yelling or honking horns. Arguing constantly.

by Anonymousreply 51February 2, 2021 4:45 AM

Glamour is the best medicine.

by Anonymousreply 52February 2, 2021 5:38 AM

George Carlin’s one note turn as a Homo-Sexual was as bad as Greg Kinnear’s.

by Anonymousreply 53February 2, 2021 12:28 PM

Kids being raped made it a great film.

by Anonymousreply 54February 2, 2021 5:16 PM

I love the scene where NOLTE throws a football at BABS and she catches it (barely) with her talons. THAT SCENE IS LIKE BUTTAH

by Anonymousreply 55February 2, 2021 6:23 PM

"Eldergays, can you explain The Prince of Tides to me?"

Here he is. No explanation needed.

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by Anonymousreply 56February 2, 2021 11:06 PM

Nolte was gorgeous and he never looked that hot again.

by Anonymousreply 57February 2, 2021 11:17 PM

I thought the film was well directed.

But Barbra should never have cast herself. She was wrong for the part and her narcissism made the role too big.

I did laugh at the "love montage" that looked like an ad for Ralph Lauren Interiors.

As others have said, the book was much better. Although it wastes too much time on the other brother. That part bored the shit out of me.

by Anonymousreply 58February 2, 2021 11:30 PM

She shouldn't have cast herself, R58. But it was the only way to get financing for the film, and even with her it wasn't easy.

"The worst movie of Streisand's career. Laughingly bad."

Um, are you familiar with Funny Lady? For Pete's Sake? The Main Event? A Star is Born?

by Anonymousreply 59February 16, 2021 10:26 PM

One rainy afternoon in 1991, I theatre hopped and saw "The Prince of Tides", "Bugsy" and "JFK" for the price of one admission.

by Anonymousreply 60February 16, 2021 10:30 PM

People really thought Nick Nolte was going to win the Oscar for this. But as Oscar night approached, I think it became less likely.

by Anonymousreply 61February 16, 2021 10:41 PM

I was mad that Streisand's nose did not receive any notice in the cast listing.

by Anonymousreply 62February 16, 2021 10:42 PM

Was that Jason Gould's only mainstream film?

by Anonymousreply 63February 16, 2021 10:47 PM

I was a teen when I saw it but I loved it, thought Barbara was beautiful and was mesmerized by her nails.

by Anonymousreply 64February 16, 2021 10:59 PM

R16 it didn't deserve the 7 nominations and probably would have been better if it had directed itself

by Anonymousreply 65December 26, 2021 6:39 AM

It stinks! It's an onion peel movie. Keep peeling the layers till you get to the truth.

by Anonymousreply 66December 26, 2021 6:42 AM

I watched it for the first time a few months ago and I was stunned by the "raped by escaped convicts" plot. You have this incredibly sentimental, hallmark channel movie and BAM an entire family is getting raped by escaped convicts. It was so over-the-top brutal it felt like it was in the wrong movie.

by Anonymousreply 67December 26, 2021 6:45 AM

R23, I love your comment!

by Anonymousreply 68December 26, 2021 7:03 AM

We need more entertainers like Billy Crystal in his prime.

by Anonymousreply 69December 26, 2021 7:10 AM

Impartial critics.

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by Anonymousreply 70December 26, 2021 9:31 AM

I still haven't recovered from seeing Leslie Nielson in bikini briefs in Nuts. And I don't think I ever will. She was really stacking the deck against him.

by Anonymousreply 71December 26, 2021 9:40 AM
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