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Mitch McConnell is pro impeachment

Wow!

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by Anonymousreply 22901/13/2021

Then call the senate back tomorrow and get it the fuck done.

by Anonymousreply 101/12/2021

I just heard that reported on MSNBC. But McConnell hasn't called the Senate back into session. He's just glad it will make it easier to purge remaining Trumpidiots from the GOP

by Anonymousreply 201/12/2021

Will he follow through and hold a vote to convict?

by Anonymousreply 301/12/2021

Why does he think impeachment alone would make it easier to rid the GOP of the Trumpies?

by Anonymousreply 401/12/2021

This means absolutely nothing.

by Anonymousreply 501/12/2021

If Mitch is for it then he will be convicted. But it sounds like this is more about preventing Trump from holding office again. Unless he agrees with Schumer to bring the senate back into session ASAP this is all about Mitch.

Corporate America has them all spooked.

by Anonymousreply 601/12/2021

No, R3. He's saying it "privately". It may make it easier for the House to get some Rs to vote for the article of Impeachment. But it still won't come up for a Senate conviction vote until after Biden's inauguration unless McConnell calls a special Senate session before then

by Anonymousreply 701/12/2021

Journalist claiming it means nothing. Call me when Mitch McConnell makes a public statement. I am not holding my breath.

by Anonymousreply 801/12/2021

If we're lucky, McConnell is deliberately not calling a special session prior to the inauguration, so that way he can hold a session after the new Democratic senators have been sworn in, then he can let the Senate convict and "blame the Democrats" for it.

Like any Democrat is going to be wounded by such an accusation! But it's politics and Mitch is nothing if not a man who panders to his grotesque Repug base.

Still, I think any scenario where the Senate convicts is a longshot.

by Anonymousreply 901/12/2021

Can someone explain how there can be an impeachment trial after Trump is out of office? What’s the point of it?

by Anonymousreply 1001/12/2021

R10 to barr him from holding office ever again

by Anonymousreply 1101/12/2021

Impeachment is the indictment. That happens in the House.

The Senate convicts or doesn't convict once a president is impeached.

An impeachable offense is a crime, hence the indictment and conviction. There is no statute of limitations that says a president's crime is no longer punishable once he's no longer in office.

by Anonymousreply 1201/12/2021

History will show that Trump's actions lead to him being impeached r10. That is important, actions have consequences.

If you can actually get a conviction, you could prevent Trump from ever being President again. Of course I think it is unlikely you get enough Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 1301/12/2021

The article says he blames him for losing the senate. Says now is a good time to move quickly. So who knows what the fuck is going on

by Anonymousreply 1401/12/2021

Thanks, R11. That makes sense.

Yeah, but isn’t the reason impeachment exists because a sitting President (supposedly) can’t be indicted?

And yes, I know how impeachment/conviction works.

by Anonymousreply 1501/12/2021

Also McConnell probably freaked out when he heard of the multiple violent acts planned for the coming days and wants to attempt keeping additional blood off his hands.

by Anonymousreply 1601/12/2021

If this comes to fruition, this would be the first thing McTurtle has ever done that I approve of. I won't hold my breath though.

by Anonymousreply 1701/12/2021

Mitch McConnell is pro Mitch McConnell and nothing else, it has finally donned on him what a monster they have embraced and wants Trump neutered. Moscow Mitch won't do much to help but he will be happy to let the Democrats take out the Republican trash.

by Anonymousreply 1801/12/2021

He'll be impeached while still in office, r15. That doesn't suddenly disappear when he leaves office. The impeachment and conviction process continues.

by Anonymousreply 1901/12/2021

Could be another signal being sent to trump that he needs to resign

by Anonymousreply 2001/12/2021

Yes, R19, but I didn’t know what a Senate conviction could do besides remove him from office.

by Anonymousreply 2101/12/2021

He isn’t going to resign. I don’t know why people think he would. If he won’t concede an election, he sure as hell won’t resign.

by Anonymousreply 2201/12/2021

McConnell needs to fucking drop dead. He's done far more damage to America over his decades in office than Dump has done in his four years.

by Anonymousreply 2301/12/2021

Actually, it's not the worst scenario if the Senate conviction vote is delayed by a week or two. The downside is that it plays into McConnell's evasion of responsibility. The upside is that every day it becomes clearer just how extreme the capitol insurrection was -- how dangerous to congressional members/staff, how pre-planned by the scum of the Maga slimepool, how complicit some upper echelons of law enforcement. The more that garbage becomes public, the more Senators will vote to impeach.

by Anonymousreply 2401/12/2021

[quote]The article says he blames him for losing the senate. Says now is a good time to move quickly.

I figured this would happen once huge organizations started, not threatening, but ACTUALLY pulling their money away from Republican candidates.

Messing with the one thing they love is a no, no.

by Anonymousreply 2501/12/2021

In the article it says McCarthy has been asking around to see if he should ask Trump to resign.

by Anonymousreply 2601/12/2021

Then why is he delaying it until Jan 20?

by Anonymousreply 2701/12/2021

House coon Tim Scott is against it

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by Anonymousreply 2801/12/2021

Because he doesn't want the chant at the Kentucky statehouse riot to be "hang Mitch McConnell", R27. They're all still terrified of Trump's rabid base.

by Anonymousreply 2901/12/2021

This is all about corporations cutting the GOP off

by Anonymousreply 3001/12/2021

Still. In. Shock.

by Anonymousreply 3101/12/2021

I don't see it mentioned a lot, but without impeachment, this asshole will still get daily security briefings. Tell me he hasn't already auctioned them off to the highest bidder.

by Anonymousreply 3201/12/2021

I agree this is ALL about the backlash coming from the corporations. It seems that that is the only think that gets movement these days. The corporations were a huge help with getting gay marriage moving among the States before the Supremes jumped in and resolved it.

by Anonymousreply 3301/12/2021

I think many Repugs are afraid of the Deplorables now. They're kind of hostages: if they badmouth Turd then they get phones call hissing, "We know where your daughter goes to school".

by Anonymousreply 3401/12/2021

The answer seems obvious. Tell Trump that Pence will give him a full pardon if he resigns.

by Anonymousreply 3501/12/2021

R34 I know where you live, but I don’t know what a toothbrush is!

by Anonymousreply 3601/12/2021

CNN hasnt reported it yet

by Anonymousreply 3701/12/2021

They are right now.

by Anonymousreply 3801/12/2021

Tim Scott is a GOP Senator from SC. He is not in the House.

by Anonymousreply 3901/12/2021

Oh damn they just did

by Anonymousreply 4001/12/2021

Those deplorables are monsters if the GOP's own making. Very fitting.

by Anonymousreply 4101/12/2021

I'll believe it when I see it, otherwise, don't believe anything he says

by Anonymousreply 4201/12/2021

r39 You've never heard the expression "house n***er?" I assume that's what the poster was going for here-- not suggesting that he was in the House of Representatives.

by Anonymousreply 4301/12/2021

Dump...

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by Anonymousreply 4401/12/2021

Liz Cheney is on board now too.

by Anonymousreply 4501/12/2021

Liz Cheney is the #3 Republican in the house, so that’s big

by Anonymousreply 4601/12/2021

The money train from Mitch's corporate donors must be drying up. That's the only thing the old corrupt fuck cares about.

by Anonymousreply 4701/12/2021

Fuck McConnell. He's spent the past four years being Trump's quisling. Now, with Trump leaving the party in shambles after all this damage, NOW, he wants him to be impeached? Pussy-ass weathervane!

by Anonymousreply 4801/12/2021

Conviction would also mean Trump loses Secret Service protection. He might even be put on the Do-Not-Fly list (which would be perfect).

by Anonymousreply 4901/12/2021

It sure is, R47!

by Anonymousreply 5001/12/2021

Forgot the link (R50)

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by Anonymousreply 5101/12/2021

Is it just me or is anyone reminded of Susan Collins abs her “concern”?

by Anonymousreply 5201/12/2021

Jesus, that should read “and” not abs.

by Anonymousreply 5301/12/2021

This brought tears to my eyes.

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by Anonymousreply 5401/12/2021

I've heard Charles Koch wants Trump gone. Mitch takes his calls. He funds near all Republicans including many on the state levels.

The enemy of my enemy is at play.

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PS: Is the photo at R51 real? It looks like Trump was having a stroke/coronary.

by Anonymousreply 5601/12/2021

R47 Is right. The rich donors own the GOP. They have received their orders, end of. This is not over. They have left us in a dangerous state. But their us hope as long as we have rule of law. I felt certain we had . Just a relief that we have hope.

by Anonymousreply 5701/12/2021

Dammit. That means I have to agree with Mitch McConnell on something. Day made & ruined at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 5801/12/2021

If ever there was any doubt as to who is in charge and running everything, we all have our answer. Loud and clear. The 1% rule this country. Everyone higher up from us takes their orders and does their bidding.

by Anonymousreply 5901/12/2021

Liz Cheney to vote for impeachment.

Not sure who wins, but it all reminds me of this...

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by Anonymousreply 6001/12/2021

[quote] History will show that Trump's actions lead to him being impeached

Oh, dear!

[quote] it has finally donned on him

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 6101/12/2021

Lead pipes and darkest before the don.

by Anonymousreply 6201/12/2021

I love you, r62!

😂

by Anonymousreply 6301/12/2021

From AL.com (Alabama)

They are after Mo Brooks and that old coach, Tommy Tuberville.

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by Anonymousreply 6401/12/2021

Lady G wakes up early every morning to worship at the crack of Don.

by Anonymousreply 6501/12/2021

Don 'Ho.

by Anonymousreply 6601/12/2021

McConnell wants that corporate America money and he can’t get that with Trump not being impeached and convicted

by Anonymousreply 6701/12/2021

R62- 😆

by Anonymousreply 6801/12/2021

R65, that explains her brown teeth.

by Anonymousreply 6901/12/2021

McConnell needs to announce this if he really means it.

by Anonymousreply 7001/12/2021

I expect this will lead to a resignation with a Pence pardon.

Not ideal but better than nothing, and let us hope NYS etc throw the fucking book at him.

by Anonymousreply 7101/12/2021

[quote]No, [R3]. He's saying it "privately". It may make it easier for the House to get some Rs to vote for the article of Impeachment. But it still won't come up for a Senate conviction vote until after Biden's inauguration unless McConnell calls a special Senate session before then

There's a mechanism that's been in place since 9/11 that allows either the Majority OR Minority leader to call the Senate back into session in times of national emergency. Schumer has been exploring it, even before he takes over next week.

by Anonymousreply 7201/12/2021

R71... I think it may. His first instinct is self-preservation, as much as it can be.

Today shows it's out of control and how it ends is nobody's guess.

As much as Trump might love another go at sedition, he love his own fat ass more.

I think.

by Anonymousreply 7301/12/2021

I’ll believe it when I see it.

by Anonymousreply 7401/12/2021

Mitch McConnell just won re-election and will be 84 when his term is up. He will probably retire then.

by Anonymousreply 7501/12/2021

This:

[quote]Corporate America has them all spooked.

by Anonymousreply 7601/12/2021

Lawmakers voting against certifying Biden are receiving backlash from their home states and districts.

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by Anonymousreply 7701/12/2021

Trump is a series. He was number one for a few years. Now the ratings have declined and the show is about to be cancelled. In a few years, there will be barely any fans left.

They are all fucked. The momentum is swinging back toward sane.

by Anonymousreply 7801/12/2021

You’re in the shithouse now pal!

by Anonymousreply 7901/12/2021

[quote]Mitch McConnell is pro impeachment

What the? I'm truly surprised. Wonders never cease. They are all making sure Dump can never run again. This is a great thing.

by Anonymousreply 8001/12/2021

If it is as it appear, it makes sense. It had to collapse spectacularly.

Take that Cruz and Hawley and little Marco.

by Anonymousreply 8101/12/2021

Trump has never been held accountable for his atrocious behavior and crimes. He must be about to stroke out.

by Anonymousreply 8201/12/2021

The walls are closing in, Boris!

And your “Bombshell Montage” won’t save you or Wussolini.

by Anonymousreply 8301/12/2021

Do you remember where we parked the car R79?

by Anonymousreply 8401/12/2021

The Trump name is so toxic now

by Anonymousreply 8501/12/2021

I've said this before but it's worth saying again - This is all so fucking delicious that it must be fattening!

by Anonymousreply 8601/12/2021

[quote] No, [R3]. He's saying it "privately".

[quote] Journalist claiming it means nothing.

If McConnell didn't want the media to report on it, it wouldn't be out there. This is a very significant development.

by Anonymousreply 8701/12/2021

I don’t believe worthless McConnell.

by Anonymousreply 8801/12/2021

Yes it is R87. Let's hope there is follow through because that cunt McConnell lies for a living. Every time he opens his mouth he's lying.

by Anonymousreply 8901/12/2021

Think of how furious Mitch is about losing the senate too. They thought they were 100% going to win, until Trump fucked it all up. I’m not surprised he’d want to be rid of Trump forever. Corporations are fleeing, the public is outraged, and they’re finally realizing that the cult only cares about Trump, not the Republican Party.

by Anonymousreply 9001/12/2021

Lisa Murkowski openly talking about leaving the Republican Party probably plays into this too. Mitch doesn’t need trump anymore.

by Anonymousreply 9101/12/2021

[quote] The answer seems obvious. Tell Trump that Pence will give him a full pardon if he resigns.

That would be cool. As long as Pence doesn’t ACTUALLY pardon him. No fucking way should that monster get to skate on all federal crimes. NO FUCKING WAY.

by Anonymousreply 9201/12/2021

🐞 🐞 🐞 🐞 🐞 🐞 🐞 🐞

She tweets about her trip to Texas with Trump:

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by Anonymousreply 9301/12/2021

Disgusting little troll. No dignity.

by Anonymousreply 9401/12/2021

[quote]Liz Cheney is the #3 Republican in the house, so that’s big

I guess that's appropriate since her father is the biggest piece of #2 that's ever existed.

by Anonymousreply 9501/12/2021

Kinzinger will now also vote to impeach.

by Anonymousreply 9601/12/2021

[quote]Think of how furious Mitch is about losing the senate too.

He will be. He won't get it back. That's gonna grate. It's the only thing that mattered to him slightly more than being heartless.

by Anonymousreply 9701/12/2021

Miss Lindsey needs to be dragged in front of a senate ethics committee for a public hearing in her role in trying to overturn the results in Georgia. She shouldn’t be let off the hook because she gave a drunken floor speech about how “enough is enough”

by Anonymousreply 9801/12/2021

So it's looking like impeachment! What happy news!

What reaction/consequences do we think this will provoke with the MAGA cult members?

by Anonymousreply 9901/12/2021

The entire GOP has blood on their hands.

by Anonymousreply 10001/12/2021

I just remembered: that crazed fucker doesn't have his Twitter to fight back with.

God, I almost feel sorry for Melania tonight.

by Anonymousreply 10101/12/2021

[quote]Mitch McConnell just won re-election and will be 84 when his term is up. He will probably retire then.

That's nonsense. No need to retire.

by Anonymousreply 10201/12/2021

Were I scripting this, R92, Pence offers to pardon Trump if he were to resign. Trump, knowing that the odds are not in his favour, reluctantly accepts.

But then, in the dramatic season finale, Trump resigns and Pence - in a final act of cunning vengeance - rescinds his offer and refuses to grant the pardon.

Trump is jailed. Ivanka is ruined forever. Trump Jr dies from a coke-induced heart attack. Pence is somewhat redeemed. The GOP is thwarted. Joe and Kamala reign supreme.

by Anonymousreply 10301/12/2021

Kinzinger was way ahead of the rest of the Republicans on this.

[quote] Let's hope there is follow through because that cunt McConnell lies for a living. Every time he opens his mouth he's lying.

McConnell is an intellectually dishonest weasel, but he doesn’t usually lie about things he intends to do or not do. If he’s for something, or against something, what you hear from him is what he typically ends up doing, if I’m not mistaken.

by Anonymousreply 10401/12/2021

[quote] So it's looking like impeachment! What happy news!

Impeachment was NEVER in question! The issue is how many House Rs will join in (not that they need to in order for it to be an actual impeachment; the Ds have the votes), and will he actually be convicted. Major question mark after the latter. Don’t hold your breath.

by Anonymousreply 10501/12/2021

[quote]McConnell is an intellectually dishonest weasel, but he doesn’t usually lie about things he intends to do or not do. If he’s for something, or against something, what you hear from him is what he typically ends up doing, if I’m not mistaken.

Agreed but we haven't actually heard it from McConnell yet R104. Here's hoping it all checks out and they follow through.

by Anonymousreply 10601/12/2021

R103- Ivanka becomes a hopeless alcoholic, forced to give blow jobs to deplorables for a cheap bottle of vodka.

by Anonymousreply 10701/12/2021

[quote]Trump is jailed. Ivanka is ruined forever. Trump Jr dies from a coke-induced heart attack. Pence is somewhat redeemed. The GOP is thwarted. Joe and Kamala reign supreme.

Well, we were promised.

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by Anonymousreply 10801/12/2021

FOX News reporting that McConnell is "furious" and "done" with Trump

[quote]Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell 'is done' and 'furious' with President Trump a source familiar confirmed to Fox News.

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by Anonymousreply 11001/12/2021

3 Senate Republicans come out for impeachment

We also know Romney, Murkowski are on board, too.

McConnell is ready. There are others who will follow.

This is it folks.

Endgame.

He will either resign or be thrown out.

by Anonymousreply 11101/12/2021

Thanks R109. It's all over the Internet so it seems to be true and have come directly from him.

Dump is so fucked. So fucked. It's the end. I love it.

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by Anonymousreply 11201/12/2021

McConnell hasn't made an announcement yet because

1) he's still working other Republicans in Congress

2) he wants to minimize angry MAGAT calls as much as possible

But the mere fact that he has allowed word of his "pleasure" about impeachment to leak publicly is the writing on the wall that Trump's political career is over.

by Anonymousreply 11301/12/2021

Where does Miss Lindsey end up in the fallout of this delicious implosion?

by Anonymousreply 11401/12/2021

*rubs hands together*

by Anonymousreply 11501/12/2021

Lindsey?

Queen Quisling?

I think she will, like the lamprey she is, shift to the newest power to suck off.

by Anonymousreply 11601/12/2021
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Wth will Trump and his cult try to pull after this?

by Anonymousreply 11801/12/2021

Hasn't she already done this many times?

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by Anonymousreply 11901/12/2021

This too?

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by Anonymousreply 12001/12/2021

She likes to stay busy, R119.

by Anonymousreply 12101/12/2021

Didn't Lindsey travel on Air Force One with Dump to Texas today?

by Anonymousreply 12201/12/2021

John McCain, I need a hug!

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by Anonymousreply 12301/12/2021

Whoever is blackmailing Miss Lindsey, whether it's Trump himself or whether it's Putin... they must have some truly awful shit on her.

by Anonymousreply 12401/12/2021

R123- I don't know her. JM

by Anonymousreply 12501/12/2021

She sure did. Last stand at Alamo. Not everyone's happy about it.

"City officials in Alamo, Texas, say they’re in the dark about President Trump’s visit to the city today and relying on news reports to try to discern what Trump is doing and where he is going,"

by Anonymousreply 12601/12/2021

I would much prefer Trump be impeached and convicted or 25th rather than he resign, because if he resigns he retains Secret Service detail and the other perks.

That's probably petty of me, but it's true. I want him humiliated and inconvenienced. If he resigns out of spite to prevent the Senate from convicting him, I'll be disappointed.

by Anonymousreply 12701/12/2021

[quote]That's probably petty of me, but it's true. I want him humiliated and inconvenienced. If he resigns out of spite to prevent the Senate from convicting him, I'll be disappointed.

If so, then we are ALL petty and we will ALL be disappointed R127. We all feel the same.

by Anonymousreply 12801/12/2021

I’ll believe it when I see it

by Anonymousreply 12901/12/2021

R124 How do you know?! Who told you shit was involved?!?

by Anonymousreply 13001/12/2021

Lisa Murkowski will probably switch to Independent. To the poster upthread, Trump can be deny briefings by claiming he is a security risk. As I recall Trump did that to Hillary.

by Anonymousreply 13101/12/2021

If Trump is truly perceived as a millstone around Repubs necks now and going forward, they will do what they have to to make sure he is nullified. And by all accounts, between his 2024 ambitions, his drain on funding, his dragging down of their numbers, and with public opinion against him, now would be the time.

by Anonymousreply 13201/12/2021

*denied

by Anonymousreply 13301/12/2021

If he's impeached and convicted (which looks actually possible now), he is stripped of all of the presidential perks.

Security briefings, pension, secret service detail, that $1 million travel budget and probably other "goodies" that I'm not aware of.

Plus, he will be forever disgraced. No talk show circuit, no foreign speaking engagements, no boards of directors, no invites to Broadway, no commencement addresses and no "honorary degrees".

He will never be consulted for anything. He won't even be permitted to attend state funerals.

The only people who will want anything to do with her m are the people who disgust him - the neckbeards, white trash, methed out losers dressed like refugees from a homeless shelter. To everyone else, he will be toxic AF.

by Anonymousreply 13401/12/2021

No Vairst Letty either! Hev clause. And claws.

by Anonymousreply 13501/12/2021

They will need 17 republican votes to convict. Good luck.

by Anonymousreply 13601/12/2021

My understanding is that a pardon would be for criminal charges after he leaves office. I don’t think it applies to any of the impeachment proceedings.

by Anonymousreply 13701/12/2021

Fasten your seatbelts things may move very quickly now.

by Anonymousreply 13801/12/2021

I just want him shunned and poor. Miserable.

by Anonymousreply 13901/12/2021

There’s about 20 who are flirting with convicting

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by Anonymousreply 14001/12/2021

Pence just sent a letter that he will NOT be invoking the 25th and used the “unity” talking point.

by Anonymousreply 14101/12/2021

R141 thanks, Cocksucker Mike... but we’re all uniting around impeachment.

by Anonymousreply 14201/12/2021

The 25th was never gonna happen. Too many moving parts and unclear protocols. And he probably didn’t even have the votes in the cabinet.

At least he finally referred to Biden as “president elect Biden”

by Anonymousreply 14301/12/2021

Fucking Joe Manchin is going to be trouble throughout the 117th

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by Anonymousreply 14401/12/2021

Congress, or some legal or oversight entity, needs to do something about Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch. The damage they have thrust upon the U.S. for years has been immense. Their greed, and the propaganda they promote, is appalling. Send them back to Australia and confiscate their ill-gotten assets.

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by Anonymousreply 14501/12/2021

We need to primary Joe Manchin

by Anonymousreply 14601/12/2021

And give up a democratic seat R146?

by Anonymousreply 14701/12/2021

The guys at Pod Save America talked about Manchin. We are not going to primary him. We’d lose a seat. He has become very powerful.

by Anonymousreply 14801/12/2021

West Virginia had the highest percentage of pro-Trump votes. Manchin is needed for Democrats to control in the Senate. Lose one Democratic seat, then Mitch is back in charge.

Hope that no Democratic Senator dies or leaves office early, and the Governor of the state is Republican.

by Anonymousreply 14901/12/2021

R149, I think if Manchin defects, Lisa Murkowski will go independent and caucus with the Democrats. She was pissed off enough two days ago to say she no longer recognizes the Republican party and isn't sure it's the right place for her.

by Anonymousreply 15001/12/2021

Murkowski said she would never caucus with Dems

by Anonymousreply 15101/12/2021

When Liz Cheney announced her support for impeachment, she said there will be info about the insurrection coming out soon that will make her decision crystal clear. As an NPR commenter said, it's almost like Trump's habit of saying "wait till you see the info that'll break tomorrow -- which never does -- except that Cheney wouldn't say it without rock solid knowledge of the damning info that's coming.

by Anonymousreply 15201/12/2021

R150 she is a snake

by Anonymousreply 15301/12/2021

A friend on facebook is claiming that McC's support for impeachment is a cunning plot to pave his way back to the leadership, because impeachment is uniting Republicans and distracting Democrats from policy, resulting in a 2022 defeat.

What the hell is he talking about?

by Anonymousreply 15401/12/2021

Yep. Ol’ Mitch now believes Trump committed the Impeachable Offense of making him (Mitch) Senate MINORITY LEADER. 🤣

by Anonymousreply 15501/12/2021

iHe is another Republican dreamer wishing aloud as he strokes his penis.

His party is in ruins because of self-deception like that. Keep it up, Nazis. Tee-hee! 😄😅🤣😂😄

by Anonymousreply 15601/12/2021

Yes, compounding Mitch's newfound opposition to Trump is the fact that Trump cost McConnell his Senate leadership on the same day he incited a riot against his workplace.

by Anonymousreply 15701/12/2021

[quote]Murkowski said she would never caucus with Dems

The analysis from Vox was, "Murkowski’s response indicates that though she would call herself an independent, she would likely still caucus with Republicans in order to maintain her positions on Senate committees. [bold]She’s currently the chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, [/bold] a powerful assignment for a senator from a state dominated by oil and natural resources. [quote]Going independent without caucusing with either party would likely see her lose that assignment.[/bold]"

So there's no way she can do anything other than go Independent Republican and continue to caucus with the Republicans.

[quote]When Liz Cheney announced her support for impeachment, she said there will be info about the insurrection coming out soon that will make her decision crystal clear.

The FBI today made it clear there are things we don't know that would "shock" us. Being that they know what we already know, it must be bad. My guess is, there were people in Congress who helped plan the whole thing out and all lines go back to Trump.

by Anonymousreply 15801/12/2021

[quote] McConnell is an intellectually dishonest weasel, but he doesn’t usually lie about things he intends to do or not do.

Exactly. He can't put something out there that's not true because it could backfire by confusing the congressional Republicans who watch his every move.

by Anonymousreply 15901/12/2021

This has been an exhausting road.

I would like to enjoy some edibles, a long shower, and then an afternoon of fucking to the sounds of Trump's impeachment conviction. Another shower, a G&T, and falling asleep to the sounds of Trump's collapse.

I don't think I'm asking for too much here.

by Anonymousreply 16001/12/2021

[quote]My guess is, there were people in Congress who helped plan the whole thing out and all lines go back to Trump.

That's already known. There are three Reps that were in communication with the rally organizers, as was the White House political director.

There will be members expelled from at least the House before this is over.

by Anonymousreply 16101/12/2021

[quote] She’s currently the chair of the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, a powerful assignment for a senator from a state dominated by oil and natural resources.

However with the Democratic Party in control of the senate Murkowski will nothing but the ranking member and in the minority with no power if she stays with the Republicans.

by Anonymousreply 16201/12/2021

The “unity” line people like Miss Lindsey are using is so that if there is more violence they can say it’s the dems fault for impeaching and being political instead of “healing”

It’s also a threat. Don’t do this or there WILL be violence.

I’m glad dems are pushing ahead and not giving into these terrorists

by Anonymousreply 16301/12/2021

And [bold]ALL[/bold] of this internal Republican civil war could've been avoided if Dump had simply just conceded that he lost to Biden, fair and square. 😂

by Anonymousreply 16401/12/2021

It also could have been avoided had the GOP not backed a dangerous criminal.

by Anonymousreply 16501/12/2021

To be clear, this friend is anti-Trump, but is basically a contrarian. He seems quite serious about impeachment backfiring on the Democrats and leading to Trump's and the Republican's victory. Is he reading something I'm not? I feel like asking him whether he's posting from Dec. 2019, and if so, letting him know he turned out to be wrong. But I think I just won't engage.

by Anonymousreply 16601/12/2021

Lucian Truscott says McConnell got intelligence that Trump was complicit enough that when all comes out, he'll be completely toxic. That's why he's ready to cut all ties now.

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by Anonymousreply 16701/12/2021

You might want to like to a reputable site R167. Everybody's got a friend of a friend of a friend.

by Anonymousreply 16801/12/2021

Notice how no republicans are actually defending trump against the accusations. Their argument is the “unity” bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 16901/12/2021

I actually believe the substance in the story at r167. This makes sense. R169 is right, no one is defending Dump, they’re just talking about how we should just let his term end. They DID have a briefing today, and the FBI guy today also said details would be coming out that would be shocking. I think Dump discussed and planned this in advance, and they (FBI, etc) have the goods on him because they’ve been tracking and listening in on him since his derangement syndrome about the election began in November.

by Anonymousreply 17001/12/2021

R168, Lucian Truscott is a respected commentator who's been around for decades and knows the scene.

Axios now thinks McConnell leans toward voting for conviction (whereas the NYT story earlier made it sound like he was just pleased with the House's impeaching Trump).

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by Anonymousreply 17101/12/2021

Asking for a friend, does anyone know what Lucian Truscott has to say about all of this?

by Anonymousreply 17201/12/2021

McConnell probably knows that this was his last election (he will either retire or die by 2026) and wants to at least not seem he supports the perpetrators of coup-de-etat on the fucking United States Congress.

He's still a vile piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 17301/12/2021

Why do we, the American public, not know this other damning information? Why are we being kept in the dark? Did this involve the Ark of the Covenant? Is it now forever hidden in a top secret government warehouse?

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by Anonymousreply 17401/12/2021

They’re waiting until trump is gone so he can’t fuck up the investigations or go more nuts as the truth comes out.

by Anonymousreply 17501/12/2021

Speaking of Trump going nuts, how do you think he is doing right now? Slapping Lindsey around in a homicidal rage?

by Anonymousreply 17601/12/2021

^Miss Lindsey is screaming with pleasure as she likes it rough.

by Anonymousreply 17701/12/2021

That hussy would!

by Anonymousreply 17801/12/2021

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by Anonymousreply 17901/12/2021

Trump cut Mitch McConnell out of his life the day Mitch proclaimed that Biden would be the next POTUS. Since then, Trump has refused to take Mitch's calls. Trump then let his MAGAt Army know that there was a bullseye on Mitch's forehead.

The reason Mitch is done irrevocably with Trump is that Mitch was made to pull into his carapace in fear on Insurrection Day. While other Congress members (those part of the MAGAt Army) knew what Trump was planning, Mitch did not. He was caught unawares, and he later discovered that Trump gave the MAGAts his blessing to make turtle soup. This alone fuels Mitch now. More than losing the majority leadership, McConnell knows full well that he almost lost his life that day thanks to Trump. This is why he "hates" Trump now (wouldn't you?), and why Elaine Chao promptly resigned.

As for Lindsey, my guess is that Trump loathes him but tolerates him because he's a sniveling snitch and Trump is using him as his Senate eyes and ears. But Lindsey is done. He'll be ostracized by many of his colleagues once Trump is impeached and convicted.

by Anonymousreply 18001/12/2021

I like how both Herrera Beutler and Cheney before her make a point of saying "Trump's actions are impeachable just based on what we already know" as if there's worse t ocome.

by Anonymousreply 18101/12/2021

[quote]They DID have a briefing today, and the FBI guy today also said details would be coming out that would be shocking.

I think this has to be one of them from the Boston Globe:

[quote]As people rushed out of other buildings on the Capitol grounds, staffers in [Ayanna] Pressley’s office barricaded the entrance with furniture and water jugs that had piled up during the pandemic. Groh pulled out gas masks and looked for the special panic buttons in the office.

[quote]“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said, though they could come up with no rationale as to why. She had used them before and hadn’t switched offices since then. As they were escorted to several different secure locations, Groh and Pressley and her husband tried to remain calm and vigilant — not only of rioters but of officers they did not know or trust, she said.

So they couldn't even use their panic buttons because at some point they were torn out!?

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They all deserve a hard pounding!

by Anonymousreply 18301/12/2021

Anybody seen Former Congressional Intern?

by Anonymousreply 18401/13/2021

[quote]“Every panic button in my office had been torn out — the whole unit,” she said

Considering how Trump and his clan and the Repugs we know who were in on it thought the coup would work, it was guaranteed there would be other bits of sabotage revealed as the investigation continued. The Gizmodo article yesterday also shows what looks like people inside White House offices posting about the insurrection to Parler as it was ongoing.

I'm betting this was their Plan B for months.

I don't buy that McConnell had no knowledge of this. He may have thought that Trump wouldn't go through with it, and maybe he even told Trump to not do it and thought Trump would agree. That may have been why he started speaking out about Biden being the winner a few days before the insurrection, his way of alerting the Repugs who knew this was coming that they had a choice to make, either stay with the GOP or fall with Trump.

by Anonymousreply 18501/13/2021

We aren't being told R174 because it's an active investigation. We already know a lot and it's still early days.

by Anonymousreply 18601/13/2021

r184, I don't think his contributions have ever the least bit consequential unless you just need some familiarity right now or something.

by Anonymousreply 18701/13/2021

Several GOP sources tell CNN that if McConnell supports conviction, Trump almost certainly will be convicted by 67 senators in the impeachment trial. "If Mitch is a yes, he's done," said one Senate GOP source who asked not to be named.

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by Anonymousreply 18801/13/2021

Mitch is signaling that he'll vote to convict once the truly damning evidence (that he has foreknowledge of) comes out.

by Anonymousreply 18901/13/2021

Maybe already stated upthread, wouldn't Congress senior leadership like Mitch be privy to more information to intelligence sources that have yet to be disclosed, and therefore, signaling approving ouster?

by Anonymousreply 19001/13/2021

Mitch has a good working relationship with Biden built over decades in the Senate. Mitch knows he’s going to have to compromise with Dems on some things if he wants to get any of the GOP’s agenda advanced, now that Democrats effectively control the Senate. Squashing Trump and his entire family right now via Senate conviction is probably the smartest way forward for Mitch.

by Anonymousreply 19101/13/2021

Yes R190. They know a lot more than we do.

It’s says Mitch believes Trump committed impeachable offenseS. The house is only charging him with one offense.

More will come out including Trump coordinating with the proud boys to plan this. The goal was to stop certification which is why he didn’t call in the guard because the plan was working.

by Anonymousreply 19201/13/2021

Technically he did say it, but he whispered it in Chinese into the cat's ear.

by Anonymousreply 19301/13/2021

[quote]The guys at Pod Save America talked about Manchin. We are not going to primary him. We’d lose a seat. He has become very powerful.

Manchin is the Dems’ version of Susan Collins. Always concerned and trying to play both sides, but usually votes with their own party.

by Anonymousreply 19401/13/2021

Yup, 4194. He’s not going anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 19501/13/2021

Oops, r194 at r195.

by Anonymousreply 19601/13/2021

A reporter on MSNBC just said McConnell’s team was very purposeful in getting the word out that he supports impeachment and is glad the Ds are doing it. So, it’s not bullshit. He really is for it, and he wants people to know it.

by Anonymousreply 19701/13/2021

But he won't vote to convict.

by Anonymousreply 19801/13/2021

Yeah if they didn’t want this out there they would have issued a swift denial

by Anonymousreply 19901/13/2021

On twitter people are like, yeah as soon as trump causes donors to pull out then suddenly Mitch is for impeachment.

by Anonymousreply 20001/13/2021

I hope they do a quick trial and vote to convict this week.

by Anonymousreply 20101/13/2021

Keep up, r201. They’re not even in session and McConnell has made it clear he will not call an early session. So it’s not going to happen.

Besides, the House has said they may not even bring it to them until Biden’s first hundred days in office.

by Anonymousreply 20201/13/2021

House says they will transmit immediately after the impeachment passes.

by Anonymousreply 20301/13/2021

Good! Albeit to an empty Senate chamber, but it’s better than nothing.

If anything else happens, they have the “hey, we sent the Article over. Don’t blame us for those rotten assholes sitting on their hands” defense.

by Anonymousreply 20401/13/2021

There’s reporting now that senate trial could begin as early as Friday

by Anonymousreply 20501/13/2021

Keep up R202, everything is moving rapidly and plans can change. McConnell is meeting behind the scenes with members of his caucus and with Biden. If he has the votes, he’ll call the Senate back and get it done quickly. He wants Trump erased.

by Anonymousreply 20601/13/2021

I hope it's true McConnell is in touch with Democrats on this but I don't trust that old snake. I won't believe anything decent of a Republican until they vote to impeach or convict, depending on where they sit.

by Anonymousreply 20701/13/2021

Remember how it was said that McTurtle wasn't going to floor the impeachment until one hour after Biden takes the oath of office? (No idea if that's still the plan.) But I think I finally grasp the mentality of the Sith Lord in this matter, maybe. Consider:

If Trump is removed immediately, then Pence becomes the 46th president for however much time remains between then and the afternoon of Jan 20. This permits him an opportunity to pardon Trump, the same way Ford pardoned Nixon. This isn't a desirable outcome. Trump needs to answer for his crimes.

But if the Senate floors the argument and convicts just 𝑎𝑓𝑡𝑒𝑟 the inauguration, then Pence will not be able to pardon Trump, since both of them will no longer hold office.

I've no idea if that comprises part of McConnell's reasoning, but it seems to make Senate conviction after Biden is sworn in a good idea.

But the House needs to impeach him 𝑟𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑛𝑜𝑤.

by Anonymousreply 20801/13/2021

R208, I have a hard time assigning that kind of integrity to McConnell. He's up to something, but I do not believe it was he appears to be up to. Not without a vote in the Senate to convict.

by Anonymousreply 20901/13/2021

An hour after the inauguration, it’s Chuck Schumer’s call.

by Anonymousreply 21001/13/2021

Good point, R210.

by Anonymousreply 21101/13/2021

Mitch called Schumer and said no special session will be called

For Mitch this is about preventing Trump from running again, not removing him from office. So he feels no need to rush it.

by Anonymousreply 21201/13/2021

He isn’t clear he has the votes is what I’m getting from that

by Anonymousreply 21301/13/2021

If Trump is convicted, he's not eligible for a pardon. Nixon resigned so he was never convicted. And my guess is that Pence, who was almost hanged because of Twitter, would never pardon him.

by Anonymousreply 21401/13/2021

[quote]And my guess is that Pence, who was almost hanged because of Twitter

Hanged? Possibly. Hung -- no.

by Anonymousreply 21501/13/2021

Anticipating my soon speech in the Senate defending my daddy and my President has my clit stiff and sweating.

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by Anonymousreply 21601/13/2021

Apparently not all that "pro."

[quote]Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has rejected holding an emergency session for a trial in the Senate if the House votes to impeach President Trump, making a delay until the Biden presidency all but certain, according to a spokesman for McConnell. The Senate is in recess until Jan. 19, the day before Biden's inauguration.

by Anonymousreply 21701/13/2021

Mitch only cares about himself, not the country. There’s no doubt in my mind he wants to convict Trump and bar him from ever holding office again. But he’s in no rush because he doesn’t care if Trump is removed from office.

by Anonymousreply 21801/13/2021

McConnell only has to wait a few days for this conviction thing to be off his desk and passed on to the next Majority Leader, of COURSE he was going to let that happen.

He's still making it known that he thinks Trump committed crimes, so that's something. Not much but it may help.

by Anonymousreply 21901/13/2021

My fear is once Trump is out of office the repubs will say why convict him since he is not in power.

by Anonymousreply 22001/13/2021

[quote] Nixon resigned so he was never convicted.

I know you know this, but for the young ‘uns out there, Nixon wasn’t even impeached.

by Anonymousreply 22101/13/2021

[quote][McConnell’s] still making it known that he thinks Trump committed crimes,

I can’t stand this fuck. He thinks trump committed crimes but let’s not convict him or anything.

What a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 22201/13/2021

R168, Lucian Truscott IV comes from a long & prominent military family (he also graduated West Point) and is a direct descendant of Thomas Jefferson. If he says his sources are reliable, I'd tend to trust him.

by Anonymousreply 22301/13/2021

McConnell wants him gone, but he doesn't want to do it on his watch as Senate Majority Leader. He gets what he wants, plus keeps his hands somewhat clean.

by Anonymousreply 22401/13/2021

But he is going to have to vote R224.

by Anonymousreply 22501/13/2021

Why do the Dems always have to clean up the Repug's shitty messes?

by Anonymousreply 22601/13/2021

So McConnell is chickening out, right? Of course.

by Anonymousreply 22701/13/2021

R220 is right.

by Anonymousreply 22801/13/2021

I can’t believe people fell for this obvious PR stunt. They aren’t going to convict him. Tom Cotton is already saying he doesn’t thinks it’s constitutional to hold a trial after the president leaves office. He’s wrong, of course, but it’s a talking point they’ll be able to use to avoid accountability. If Mitch wanted trump convicted he would have called the senate back into DC tonight

by Anonymousreply 22901/13/2021
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