Courtney Love implies Sam Lutfi and actor Ross Butler pilfered her bank account while keeping her isolated and doped on Xanax

More namedropping...

R1 it is her favorite pastime, but I love her anyway

I can't with this fucking loon. She could tell me Biden won and I'd have my doubts.

What does she mean by 15 bars a day? Sorry but I'm not familiar with drug lingo

Wow she's been spilling the tea lately. I'm glad she's getting out of the mess she was in.

I tend to take a lot of what she says with a grain of salt because she often contradicts herself. I believe that Lufti is trash and a thief but I don't believe that he forced her to take Xanax, took ALL her money, was tracing her calls, or that Marilyn Manson saved her.

[quote]What does she mean by 15 bars a day?

Xanax bars. They're segmented so you can break them up for smaller dosages.

R6 I doubt all her money, but I bet it happened only because Sam Lutfi was involved. Courtney has claimed in that past that millions upon millions were siphoned out of the money she and Frances got from the Nirvana estate--she talked about it publicly for years, though her vague references to lawyers and "finding shoeboxes of credit card receipts" under her bed never really made complete sense.

That being said, she IS an easy target to be exploited in the sense that she's an extremely emotional, neurotic addict with a huge bank account. She's got a target on her back.

Didn't Ross Butler just recently discuss how much he loved Courtney and that she was the main reason he was where he is today?

Is this the same Sam Lufti that was drugging Britney during her crazy phase and taking all her money?

R9 There was an interview where Ross said that Courtney was like a "big sister" and mentor to him and that she was big factor in him wanting leading man roles and giving him confidence in himself.

A couple years ago Courtney,Ross and Sam were accused of vandalism and allegedly threatening to kill daughter Frances Bean's ex-husband.

No way she’s sober now.

This all sounds very Von Trapp family escapes from Austria to me. Is she pushing to play herself in the Lifetime movie?

How can anyone feel sorry for her when she was stupid enough to hire him AFTER we all saw the drama that played out when he was managing BS?

Well I’m sure Ross has thirteen reasons why, and I for one am looking forward to hearing them.

For a manipulative sociopath, she's kinda weak.

Or perhaps she's faking. People who used to shoot-up drugs with her said she'd fake it. But no one said anything.

Now she's a billionaire.

Stevie’s selling off her musical rights for million, meanwhile Courtney’s being pushed around and exploited by her drug handlers.

Doesn't Kurt's estate still make tens of millions a year? Off topic, I know, but no I'm curious...

R17 Stevie is sitting at home writing rambling low iq nonsense on her iPad about 9/11, the Gulf War, and Harry Styles and doing skype calls with end stage Alzheimer patient Linda Ronstadt while the rest of Fleetwood Mac is not talking to her for making them fire Lindsey and then refuse to make new music. She'll pull a Leona Helmsley and leave her money to her dogs. At least Courtney has a somewhat stable child and heir.

[quote]What does she mean by 15 bars a day? Sorry but I'm not familiar with drug lingo

One bar of Xanax is 2mg.

A typical therapeutic dose is .25 to .5mg. She was taking 30mg per day, which is anywhere from 60 to 120 times a typical therapeutic dose. That is insane. It's possible to die from withdrawal at those levels.

Well, I guess she need one kind of bar or another?

The guys need to be prosecuted and put away. Hope Love has the receipts.

She’s back on the wagon again.

R16 she use to fake shooting up?

She pretended that her lawyers, managers, whatever-staff stole all of her money and Frances Bean's money too. Actually, Courtney blew through all of her own money and then blew Frances' money too. She has lots of stories of how everyone steals from her but it's all her.

🎶The 'gram is aliiive, with the signs of relapse🎶

Oh, please, who ever had to force or trick that woman to take drugs?

I love Courtney and she may or may not be telling the truth, but she always thinks someone is stealing her money, especially when she is fucked up. She was on Howard a few years back talking about Dave Growl taking her money and hiring a forensic accountant. The world would be a lot less interesting without Courtney Love.

Xanax, R4. That's a FUCK TON of drugs to consume on the daily.

Don’t do drugs, kids. Or at least don’t let them do you.

Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.

Damn. Just read the Frances gets over 95k a month from Kurt! Fuck. I assume Courtney gets the same.

And my dad, who also killed himself, left me a used TV and some fucking journals.

She quit using 2.5ya?

That seems low, R32. That's getting less than 1.2M a year.

[quote]Courtney Love implies Sam Lutfi and actor Ross Butler pilfered her bank account while keeping her isolated and doped on Xanax

I hope they did. She's vile.

She's the Blanche DuBois of the 1990's recherché à la mode drug set.

Courtney, less time planespotting and more time checking bank statements.

R34 Who needs more than that? Sounds like the interest on the capital inherited.

R34, Courtney gets the same amount (I assume). Plus, who knows who else gets part of his estate?

My guess Kurt makes, what, 10 million a year?

R39 I remember reading/hearing somewhere that Courtney had part of the publishing rights to Nirvana, while Frances had all of Nirvana, LLC, which accounts for all Nirvana merchandise, logos, etc. I believe Courtney sold off some of the publishing rights some years back, but I don't know if she's retained what she had left.

Does that much Xanax have physical effects like constipation for opioids? Obviously tapering off of that daily dose would require close medical supervision.

I think it’s very weird how social media has created a genre of expression in which one purports to be addressing an individual (in this case Courtney to Marilyn) while in fact they’re addressing their followers, who in turn pretend to “eavesdrop.” It reminds me somewhat of a eulogy. In any case, it’s clear that Courtney is batshit as ever. Drug people are boring.

Courtney was doing this namedropping stuff back when she first got on the internet on AOL, and then she would give interviews bragging about the namedropping she did online. Tiresome.

[R43] It’s because she’s a nobody and knows it deep down.

She shouldn't get any of that money or Nirvana rights anyway, since Kurt was planning on divorcing her. It should've all went to the remaining band members and their daughter.

Ross Butler - the Asian kid from 13 Reasons Why and Riverdale?

The ‘90’s music scene was notable for producing a dazzling array of no-talents like Courtney, Marilyn Manson, Billy Corgan, et al. It was an era in which, if he’d come of age in it, Mick Jagger would have stayed at the London School of Economics and become a wealthy stock broker. Courtney and her ilk all seem poorly educated with little musical talent or facility with instruments.

It’s clear that personal responsibility isn’t one of Courtney’s hallmarks.

Sociopath Cunt. She’ll rot in hell when she’s dead.

R47 Courtney and Manson are marginally talented but Corgan was the best guitarists to come out of that era. And the so called talent of Mick Jagger? He's cut from the same cloth as Courtney and Manson. They are all flashy front(wo)men with insipid lyrics who ripped off more talented people.

R42 Bret Easton Ellis is that you?

R50 "Corgan was the best guitarists to come out of that era" Lol, no.

R27 MARY!

I remember way back (before music stars were rich, but not MEGA RICH like they can be today) that Courtney said it was Madonna's fault that Courtney was so poor, because Madonna wouldn't recommend or give the name of her accountant (or something equally bizarre and specific) or give Coutney any information on how to manage her money.

Frances Bean is surprisingly stable considering she's the offspring of Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain. It might have something to do with in part with being raised by Kurt's mother and sister.

R54 Constants in Courtney's narrative are "everyone want to fuck me", "people are stealing my money", "X is obsessed with my daughter", and "I am clean now" (lol).

R56, and "I have lots of celebrity friends" (evidenced by her compulsive namedropping)

Yes R46

Stevie Nicks and Courtney Love certainly share a fame addiction.

R59, leave Stevie out of this. She can write her own songs.

The miles of rock star dick between these two is marathon length.

This from Vulture:

Who Hasn’t Stolen From Courtney Love?

Courtney Love desperately needs an alarm system attached to everything she owns — people won’t stop robbing her! At least that’s the impression we get from the Hole singer, who seems to hand out larceny accusations like Santa Claus hands out presents. Earlier this month, Love claimed her ex-boyfriend Edward Norton stole $300,000 from her and her daughter, Frances Bean. Then last week, she issued the most confusing apology ever: “I have the greatest respect for Edward. He could be the President of the United States. I could be his drug czar.” One mea culpa down, only 4,238 to go! Below, a brief history of the accused:

2005: Love accuses Dave Grohl of “taking money from my child, Frances Bean, for years.”

2007: Love claims that $100,000 diamond earrings — a Christmas present for Frances — have been stolen from her hotel room. Later, said earrings mysteriously reappear at the hotel.

2008: Love insists that someone has stolen Kurt Cobain’s ashes. German artist Natascha Stellmach claims she took the ashes and plans on smoking them. Love’s publicist later denies that the ashes were ever taken.

2008: Love accuses Victoria Blake and Lester Knispel, two members of her management team, of stealing millions from her.

2008: Love accuses her ex-housekeeper, Miriam Torres, of stealing from her collection of designer dresses.

2008: Love accuses Ryan Adams of stealing $858,000 “straight out of Frances’s trust fund” in order to fund his album Rock N Roll.

2009: Love accuses fashion designer Dawn Simorangkir of stealing two bags of clothes from her while they stayed at L.A.’s Chateau Marmont. (The accusation came after Simorangkir sued Love for defaming her on Twitter.)

2009: Love accuses Gossip Girl’s Taylor Momsen of stealing her overall “look.”

2009: Love accuses pop duo the Veronicas of wearing dresses stolen from her closet.

2010: Love accuses Lily Allen of stealing Frances’s sunglasses.

Look out, Billy Corgan: She’s watching you.

I used to love her for sentimental reasons. I was a huge fan of Hole when I was a gayling. Now I just think she is most of the terrible things people have always accused her of being. A liar, a star fucker, a junkie, a sociopath, a manipulator, a grifter, I could go on and on with this broad. She is clearly batshit. That’s why her own daughter has had numerous failings out with her over the years. I don’t believe 99.9% of the crap that comes out of this woman’s mouth.

Anyone who would dare to touch Sam Lufti with a 1000 ft pole after the publicized ways that he isolated, manipulated and abused Britney Spears, is a criminally fucked-up, self-loathing hopeless maniac.

Oh, wait, yeah. That all checks out. Ok, carry on.

R47, Corgan is a total douchebag who can't sing, but the man can write great songs. Most consider him second to only Kurt for 90s songwriters...

God I hate her. How is she still alive?

Wake me when she admits to killing Kurt.

Courtney using the N word.

This makes Ross Butler slightly interesting. Someone get his publicist on the phone.

I was supposed to see Marilyn Manson and Hole on that '98 tour that she makes reference to. But Courtney dropped out before it got to my city. I was pissed too because I loved (and still love) "Celebrity Skin" which had just come out. The Marilyn Manson show was still great, though - insanely theatrical and weird, and that was when he was still making decent records.

Courtney and Marilyn were saying terrible things about each other publicly at that time. They must have re-bonded over drugs. I assume she's speaking up on his behalf now because he's getting hit with a new round of #MeToo shit (but mostly making it abuot herself, natch).

I wonder if Courtney will accuse her TV son Nico Tortorella of something... He's always wanted his name in the paper.

Wait, was Ross Butler her fuck boy? Boyfriend? I’m confused

Lufti =dealer. She needed a lot of RX from him. I believe what she says. Hollywood is rotted and people are pigs.

AFAIK no r72. Ross supposedly has said that hasn't had time for a girlfriend because he's been focused on his career but there has also been rumors claiming that Ross possibly isn't straight.

I'm a... Slave 4 lUtfi.

Well, all I can say is thank god for fine people like Marilyn Manson.

How does she still have money?

I'm team Lufti and Butler for imprisoning Love and I'm now anti Manson for freeing her.

I don't care if Nicks eats live babies for breakfast (you know for that delish adrenochrome) because I fucking love her 80s solo work alone more than Love's empty Hole.

R77 Are you serious?

R77 R79 She was obviously lying about being broke. Both her and her daughter receive stipends from Kurt's trust although FB is the trustee.

Well if Johnny Depp can be broke, I'm sure crafty Courtney can find a way.

Courtney can never truly be broke. It's more like "I can't pay back this $80,000 for two months until my check comes in"

Has Courtney commented on Marilyn Manson current troubles?

To Courtney Love being "sober" only means "not shooting heroin". I've seen her discussing her "sobriety" in person while drinking red wine. She's actually a dear girl, but a determined mess. I'd take anything she says lightly.

One day her life is going to make one hell of a movie.

Not sure what to make of Manson these days. I've enjoyed his music over the years, but Reznor of all people recently pointed out that he's had nothing to do with him for over 25 years now because of his behavior.

Evan Racheal Wood MeToo'ing him these days seems bizarre. If a couple is consensually into extreme kink, it seems a bit disingenuous for one of the two to do a180 nearly two decades later.

Courtney is clearly unhinged and I really don't trust much of what comes out of her mouth. It's always been a mixture of a few facts and drugged induced fiction.

I hope she at least got some dick from Ross Butler.

After what my cousin told me. A friend had to deliver a script, to her at house. Her house was stacked with garbage everywhere. Bags of junk, trash almost to the ceiling. Nasty hoarder. I realized she is not all there.

Wait! This is SO weird! They did the SAME thing to EVERYBODY in my building! Rully (sic)!

Her and Manson both belong in a mental ward.

Kurt Cobain's telltale heart is beating behind the walls.

Marylin Manson has always been more well spoken than Courtney.

I think with the upbringing she had, she never had much of a chance in life. I salute her for making it big against all odds (even her level of fame before Kurt). She seems to be in a decent-ish place at the moment, but her brain is so wrecked from all the prescription meds that I don't think she'll ever recover and her everyday speech does have an irritating 'rambling' quality to it that I don't think she can help.

I also believe her 100% about this (which isn't hard, given the men at play here). As much as she stretches the truth and LOVES namedropping, she knows where a lot of the bodies are buried in Hollywood and has been the sole whistleblower on a lot of issues. From warning us about Harvey Weinstein back in 2004, to her lecture about Napster and music piracy in the late 90s, and her telling the truth about Fred Durst before it all came out. There are a lot more too. Crazy, but crazy like a fox.

Ross Butler? What kind of random bullshit?

Also? No wonder Barrymore dropped her. She sounds like the most exhausting person EVER.

Bling Ring catnip

R88 That's punk rock.

Sam Lufti did the same to Britney

Lutfi is scum. Britney and Courtney were easy targets due to their drug abuse and emotional immaturity. Lutfi is an opportunistic predator that swooped in at their lowest and took money. I don't think he was orchestrating these advanced plans and mind control tactics like some movie villain. Love and Spears were mentally fucked drug addicts with tons of money and it was just easy to grift from them. Johnny Depp and Michael Jackson were also targeted by similar grifters due to being dumb drug addicts as well.

I will day one thing, Courtney is never ever boring!

I was going to say - wasn't Sam Lufti the boyfriend and only companion to Brittany Spears for many years?

This is some unbelievable shit - it has to be made into a film. And some of these people need to be in jail for what they've done.

The interesting thing about Courtney is that she owns zero real estate. She just blows through her money renting houses, buying couture and jet-setting. Frances Bean has a modest $2.9 million home. So where is all this alleged Nirvana money ($10 million per year)going? I suspect theses ladies are getting significantly less than is being reported.

I am curious how the hot guy from all those shitty teen shows got involved with Sam Lufti and Courtney Love.

.....

.,.,

Ross is going to be a presenter on tonight's Sag Awards.

R50 Corgan's guitar playing is so lame and forgettable.

She doesn't deserve that money anyhow.