Delivery driver on Long Island isn't happy with an $8 tip so she takes the food back

Completely understandable depending upon the neighborhood delivered in. Was it perhaps the Baldwin’s in exile house? Did she answer the door speaking Spanish pretending to be the help?

LOL, props to the bitch, she's DLer.

It is this type of moxie that will ensure that we win the coming economic war against the Chinese.

So now he’s jobless??

What a Karen. If she keeps this shit up, she's going to do it to the wrong person (male or female) one day and get her head punched in.

*She’s

I hope that customer asked to speak to the manager.

12 miles shouldn't be 40 minutes; with traffic? I don' t know, but don't take the order if it's going to be that long.

By the way, she's fucking lying. 12 miles is 20 minutes where I live (I live in a rural area and that's exactly how far the nearest big town is from me). I had it on my GPS multiple times until I learned how to get there by heart. I don't know how fucking slow she's driving for it to take her 40 minutes to drive 12 miles.

how much was the food?

She’s probably counting the wait time for the order.

There’s no way that customer didn’t call and complain about her.

My aunt was pulled over by a cop on the Belt Parkway years ago for driving too slow.

Even she could have driven 12 miles in less than 20 minutes

So when she brought the food back what was she going to do hand it to the manager and say she didn't give it to the guy because she didn't like the tip? And the manager is going to say 'Gee I'm glad you didn't give it to the guy so I'll just throw it out.'?

Why at the beginning does she say, "I can speak too, actually."

What a lousy gig. But yeah, how much was the bill?

$8 is a really shitty tip=, but she's full of shit too. I also have the same questions as R13. She cost that store money and caused friction with a customer. No fucking way did she lah-dee-dah back to the store with the food and get off Scott free. If anything she probably took it home with her and quit or ghosted her shitty gig.

She has had insufficient.

Why is this bitch ringing door bells and touching people's food without a mask on??

12 miles can easily take 40 minutes in traffic, especially on Long Island.

I think this is Long Island where it does take that long to drive 12 miles? But she does have a lot of balls and should be wearing a mask.

Maybe she walked.

Sorry r19, didn't see your post before I posted.

My question is, does the restaurant get a tip when you order from a third party delivery service?

Girl's got balls. I don't order delivery - do delivery people actually do things like that?

When I was waiting tables in college, I remember I had this impossible cunt at one table who complained about everything. She snapped her fingers at me all night long and ordered me around like a servant. She finally snapped her fingers one too many times at me, and I let her have it. Of course, she threatened to leave me no tip and complain to the manager. I told her I didn't want her damn money, and I'd not to bother because I'd tell the manager first. I just wanted her gone.

I told my manager about it immediately. She supported me, bless her heart.

How long should it take to drive from Commack to Smithtown?

How much would the food be if $8 could be considered a fair tip? We hear a woman in the background saying that's a lot.

Depends on the time of day. 347 can be a parking lot and it can DEFINITELY take 20 minutes to go 12 miles without a doubt.

She lies about the distance and even says that she got it to his house early. So which is it: the 11 miles took 40 minutes and OMG, you cheap bastard - or - the 11 miles took no time because I got it here early (!!) but I’m mad enough about the tip that I’m going to waste your time and mine and drive “40 minutes” back to the restaurant.

[quote] and get off Scott free.

Oh, dear!

$8 is a great tip!

$8 is 20% of $40

$8 is 20% of $40, and $40 of groceries would hardly need to be delivered. It's a shitty tip.

Delivery people aren't entitled to the same kind of tips waitstaff are. For one, you're not hustling like you would be if you were waiting tables. Second- you get paid a better hourly rate than waitstaff. There's no fucking way I would give my delivery person a 20-25% tip, especially if I'm paying a delivery fee on top of it. The ONLY exception I make is when someone has to shop for me, like on Instacart. I treat those people like gold, because they have to run around the store, they have to let me know if something is out of stock, find out what I want in lieu (and I make sure I'm right by the phone or laptop while they shop so I don't make them wait). I tip those people very well, especially having to shop for me during COVID. But some asshole who has to drive a mile after picking up a bag of food? Take what I give you and shut up.

R26 I just looked it up on Google Maps. Fastest route is 11 minutes via NY-24 E (5.5 miles) and the longest route is 13 minutes via Veterans Memorial Highway (7.3 miles). Thus I don't know where she's getting the 12 miles or 40 minutes from.

[quote] $40 of groceries would hardly need to be delivered.

I've ordered $40 worth of groceries many times.

This cuntiness is quite common for the trash of Long Island.

Travel time from Commack, NY to Smithtown, NY

How long does it take to drive? 6 minutes, 49 seconds

Find out how many hours from Commack to Smithtown by car if you're planning a road trip.

A bucket of water thrown out of the upstairs would have been an appropriate response.

Unless it’s a one story home. Then a hosing would have sufficed.

At the very least, turn the sprinkler on her.

What’s she going to do—return the food and demand the restaurant give the guy who ordered a refund?

The restaurant is going to say, uh no

[quote] it can DEFINITELY take 20 minutes to go 12 miles without a doubt.

Yeah but she's claiming it took 40 minutes, darls.

Okay, I just watched the video. She is a straight up entitled cunt and needs to be fired and never hired by anyone again.

Release the hounds.

We have no idea if it's a shitty tip or as someone said she's a DLer.

R41, thanks. My bad.

[quote] $8 is 20% of $40, and $40 of groceries would hardly need to be delivered. It's a shitty tip.

The bitch didn’t make the food, serve it and clean up afterwards. She picked up a bag from a restaurant and handed it to someone FFS. Plus, she took the job.

I don't usually believe in this, but I want this bitch to be doxxed so badly.

It should have ended with the door being opened and a solid object hitting her in the head and knocking her out as she walked off in a huff. This unmasked entitled brat needs to be dragged hard.

Commack to Smithtown isn't really that far unless you hit major traffic. Even so, bitch, you're so fired!

R35, I have no idea where you got your information from bevause 24 is nowhere near there.

Also, do you know where the customer’s house is because on Long Island you can’t just put in two hamlets and make the assumption.

And Smithtown is not only a town on Long Island but also a hamlet.

What is the generally accepted rate for delivery driver tips? I always do 20%, and I live in a town that the average distance to get anywhere does not exceed 15 minutes.

So did the restaurant get stuck with the bill for the order - or did the person who ordered the food pay the bill and got no food? Anything I order is take-out since the restaurants I frequent are so close to me.

The bag she took away didn’t look very big.

It also looked to be plastic, and aren’t those banned in Suffolk County?

I'm surprised that it only took 40 minutes to drive 12 miles in Long Island. People saying otherwise have never been to Long Island.

You don't understand. My dad makes me pay the insurance on my Benz and I'm doing this lousy job as a FAVOR to you. Pony up the bucks you cheap bastard!!!

[quote] Commack to Smithtown isn't really that far unless you hit major traffic.

Unless you’re way up north and the only realistically viable route is 25A. One lane each way. Fuhgeddaboutit.

[quote][The bag] also looked to be plastic, and aren’t those banned in Suffolk County?

Not for food takeout.

I gave the delivery guy a $7 tip on a $25 order tonight. That was on top of the $1 delivery fee.

He biked six blocks.

Unless you're hitting the 10 for $10 canned goods sale, $40 is about one large bag of groceries, or two medium sized ones if you got bulky items.. If you bought meat it's probably just one bag.

I grew up in Smithtown and an $8 tip is an insult.

I would have paid for her to get into a good college.

But, that’s me.

R50 No need to mansplain anything to me, cunt. I lived on Long Island for 20 years up until a couple of months ago. This bitch is a fucking liar and the video should have ended with her picking her broken teeth up off this guy's driveway.

[quote] He biked six blocks.

Mmmmmm. Did he have those spandex riding pants on?

Mmmmmmmmm.

Why couldn't you walk six blocks each way, R58? Or are you too obese to leave the house?

Who the fuck is mansplaining? And who the fuck says that but a woman?

If you lived on Long Island you’d know you’re way way off by suggesting 24, which isn’t even in the same fucking county!

You sound like a miserable bitch.

I call this ad, “Amy Fisher for Deliveroo”

R64 Shouldn't incels like you be on 4Chan?

Why was the food still on the outside if he had tipped her ?

I dont get it, dont the delivery people get anything from doordash, isnt it like uber but for food? They dont just rely on tips do they?

[quote]Why was the food still on the outside if he had tipped her ?

Contact-free delivery. She waited on his doorstep until she saw the tip on her phone.

I was on a conference call for work when I ordered, and I was hungry, R63.

I didn’t have lunch.

Don’t judge.

[quote] Shouldn't incels like you be on 4Chan?

What are you, 12?

Because nobody ever does that on here right, R70?

R71 Should I have called you a Russian instead?

The fuck I care?

A restaurant which I sometimes order from is 1 1/2 blocks away and a tip a minimum of $8 or 30%, whichever is more. The customer was super cheap but the delivery person was bad too. The restaurant should have a delivery fee if the order is not in the same town.

[quote] By the way, she's fucking lying. 12 miles is 20 minutes where I live (I live in a rural area and that's exactly how far the nearest big town is from me).

But not everyone lives in Dumbfuckistan like you do

No one knows if it is a good tip or not because we don't know how much the order was.

Until someone finds out that detail its all bullshit.

Why doesn’t she just sell her pussy like all the LI girls do?

Tips are getting out of hand : 30%?

Does the price of the order even matter when you’re tipping someone to drive it to you?

NO

Tip 30%???????????

Fuck the restaurant industry of it costs 30% even if they’re not even serving you

Because she would have gotten less than $8, R78.

Don’t be sending this one into the hood!

I’m guessing that like so many LIers, she’s a Republican

So she ultimately LEFT with the $8 tip AND the guy's food? Accept the "lousy" tip and move on bitch.

30% for a tip? No I don't think so.

People will just stop ordering delivery food and then they will all be out of a job. And they will all look shocked.

Maybe these people instead of complaining about a tip should be glad they have any kind of job during an economic depression and deadly pandemic?

Of course r80.

Tipping is still based on the price of the order. Open any delivery app, their suggested tip is a percentage of the total. Its the same as eating at the restaurant, where a fair tip is considered w0% of the total.

What pisses me off is that $8 was on top of probably a $3 delivery fee and a $3 “service fee.”

You’re $14 in the hole before you even add one thing off the menu.

20%*

Datalounge always melts down over tipping.

This isn't about tipping, it's about being an entitled, unprofessional cooze who should go live with mommy and daddy for the rest of her life.

[quote] should go live with mommy and daddy

She already lives with mommy and daddy who told her to get a job, for a little literary experience; this is all she could find, hence the hissy fit about the tip as she realizes just how little she is worth commercially.

This made me laugh. A delivery person can never demand a higher tip. That is why you are doing a delivery service. And asking to speak with someone with no mask ... fuck her. I hope she was fired.

The app suggests a number of tips eg $8, $9, $10. There is also an 'other' option. This is on top of all the extra charges to do with service and convenience etc.

[quote]$8 is a really shitty tip

What if the order was only 20 bucks? That's a 40% tip.

It’s not his fault she got lost for 40 minutes. Women drivers, yeesh.

Your goods cost $20. Service charge, convenience charge, tax etc: add another $10. Plus tip of $8. That's $38 for a $20 order: that is not a viable business model and will soon disappear along with said delivery drivers.

I’m assuming she gets a flat rate per hour from the delivery service and most likely a mileage rate as well right? Anyone know what they are?

[quote] But not everyone lives in Dumbfuckistan like you do

I may live in "Dumbfuckistan" but I love it here and have a much better way of life than I did in New York where I spent half my life. Bonus, I'm no longer surrounded by sneering cunts like you. So please do stay in the cities and continue to fly over us. We don't want your kind near us.

This is why I cook.

You Americans are so weird with the tipping thing. You have a boss. If you think you are not payed enough, go talk to your boss, don't expect others to give you your paycheck.

I fucking loath people who nickel and dime those on the lowest work rung! My food deliveries are always within a 4 block radius. I always tip $10.

R102 the delivery folk are usually self-employed.

R104 So the restaurant doesn't pay her anything? I don't get it.

Are you FUCKING kidding me with this? Bitch, you gonna give me the food that ordered.

The restaurant almost certainly pays her nothing at all R105.

R107 I don't believe that. So the only money she makes is from tips?

I would have ran after her, tackled her and said, "That's the food I just ordered and paid for". Then I'd never order from them again and trash them- and her- all over the internet.

Things are different here in Flyoverland.

She should’ve been tipped 10c

This video is sad because it makes me think of so many people who are under-employed. It must be hard to live at the economic margins and rely on apps like doordash, grubhub, etc. to get by financially. It seems like a rough, demoralizing way to earn a meager wage. I usually overtip drivers in this situation because I feed bad for them. This gal, less so. She might come from a culture of haggling and negotiation, and that’s a rough start in life. We might see more people trapped in shitty economic conditions in the gig economy.

R108 she's a freelance delivery person, using her own car, contracted on an ad hoc basis by DoorDash or PostMates or some such. I assume she gets a basic fee from DoorDash. She has no contractual relationship with the restaurant. So the tip is a big deal and heavy traffic slows her down. I don't know what precious fare she was carrying in that rather small bag but if it was worth $40 then the $8 tip is 20% which may or may not leave her any profit.

How about the people make a fucking sandwich and then you don't have to worry about any of this. Lazy idiots with too much money ordering the Typhoid Mary special don't get much sympathy from me.

Has she been cancelled yet?

This is why tipping culture is bullshit. It pits the low wage worker against the customer leaving the employer off the hook for paying starvation wages. This bullshit needs to end.

R111 What makes you think the customer is any better off than she is? He paid for the food (probably his one splurge of the week) and then the cunt runs off with it. I'm sure her boss was thrilled. Did the boss send someone else to deliver this customer the food that he fucking well paid for? This cunt is a straight up thief.

Before now I have never ever heard of anyone trying to negotiate an increased tip.

A tip is SUPPOSED to be optional. It has morphed into another fee that pays what should be WAGES from the employer.

She didn't have to accept the gig if it was too far.

I have a relative who was chased down in the parking lot by an unhappy waiter, R117. Somewhere expensive in Atlanta. It happens.

I tip differently based on what salary the employee gets (restaurants pay delivery drivers Federal minimum plus tips while wait staff get State minimum of $2.75 plus tips) and the cost of the food. More for people who do grocery shopping for me versus those who just drop the order off.

That said, on this order a 20% tip of $8 would have been food that amounted to $40, and that doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Our own delivery orders are rarely ever as much as $40, but no one spends more than 20 minutes on the road both to and from our house, it's not a large city. If I knew that the delivery driver would have to spend more than 30 minutes total on the road and they were third party, therefore not getting a wage from a restaurant on top of their tip, I'd have paid more.

I would not under any circumstances have put up with a delivery driver stealing back the food I'd paid for.

With her hustle she should be at the UN, not Grubhub.

R116 People are saying she has no boss and is self-employed

R121 many deliverers and shoppers are self-employed so min wage is not an issue.

Who gives a shit, R123? All that matters is that the customer paid for that food which the cunt ran off with it so now the restaurant has to make the food all over again and send someone else to deliver the fucking food. And this bitch is no doubt out of a job (self-employed or not) especially now that this video is out there.

R105, my understanding is that places like Door Dash offer something like $3 per delivery, plus you get the tip.

I found this out when a Hy-Vee delivery driver started yelling at me about not leaving tip. We had no option to leave a tip when we paid for the order, and when I'd called weeks earlier, I was told they were all Hy-Vee employees so they got their hourly wage, and employees couldn't take tips. Turned out they were actually third-party Door Dashers and got, I think, $3.17 per delivery plus whatever tip we left. I started leaving cash in an envelope at that point.

I'm sure this delivery driver had been through plenty of crap herself, and I sympathize, but not to the point of stealing someone's food out of spite.

[quote] I fucking loath people

Oh, dear!

[quote] Turned out they were actually third-party Door Dashers and got, I think, $3.17 per delivery

And the $3.17 is directly charged to you as a service or delivery fee when you order and before you tip.

If I lived in America, I'd avoid eating out or ordering in, your militant view on tipping is ridiculous.

In her section of the economy others will deliver for an $8 tip. Sounds like she learned a lesson about how much her labor is worth.

I must make sure to tip my shopper more generously than I tip the deliverer.

Since when is an $8 tip bad?

If the bill is $40...$8 tip is 20%

If the bill is $54...$8 tip is 15%

Delivery apps, like DoorDash, recommend 3 options 15%, 20% and 25%

So unless this was a huge order, $8 is appropriate.

DLers are so out of touch...and can't do math.

I can't stand the fact that every local establishment I go to now has a TIP jar on the counter- My health food store and my bakery. Why don't these places pay their employees a living wage. This TIPPING shit is out of control.

It was a small bag so I assume it was not groceries but food from a restaurant.

I thought tips in America are supposed to be 10% of the price you are paying. Now you are telling me they jumped up to 30%?

I don't know what service it was, grub hub or uber eats or what. The drivers get paid for their time etc. Typically with Uber or Lyft you don't rate or tip until after you are dropped off. WHy would she know how much her tip was before she delivered the food?

R136 Food delivery is different from Uber/Lyft.

Tips are shown so that drivers can choose if an order is worth their while.

I don’t know how true this is but someone posted upthread she made the delivery and didn’t leave until the tip came through.

[quote] DLers are so out of touch...and can't do math.

I was told there’d be no math.

That’s why I’m here.

It was her decision to keep doing the job.

Tips are optional and provided voluntarily.

She has no right to expect anything.

She's a thief.

She can be grateful for any tip and smile land be nice and deliver her food like she's told or she can get a new job.

^^^^^ So let it be written, so let it be done!

[quote] Tips are shown so that drivers can choose if an order is worth their while.

So the tip was worth her while then but not now because she decided to spend 40 minutes on a trip that should have taken 10.

A tip is optional. Always optional. Otherwise call it a mandatory fee. Or price the cost in. You may be an asshole for deliberately refusing a tip out of spite, but any kind hearted service worker I know, while highly desiring and often needing their tips for anything resembling a living wage, understand that others need services too - even poor ones that strain their budget greatly if they have to tip, but need to use a tipping-involved service at some point.

If you're chased down the parking lot by an angry server for leaving an inadequite or no tip, that's not your problem. You DO have a problem, but the problem isn't one requiring you to tip when you've decided not to. The wrong is being done by the server for harassing customers, and the problem itself is, if anything, with the restaurant owner refusing to pay to the level that would better avoid servers snapping and harassing customers. When you invest into tip culture, you get the good AND the bad.

No one should feel the need to tip 30%, 40%+. Ever. Supposed new 'standard' is 20% instead of 15% or 18%, but every increase is a systemic failure. Every increase is an indication that we do not pay service workers enough, and profits (acknowledging that there are hot-and-cold industries, especially restaurants) are filtering too much to owners and not enough to workers. They're pushing the costs to the customer, which isn't always an evil, but is probably too much, and they're not being up-front about it.

She should have taken that $8 and bought some Bitcoin, and now she'd have more than $8.

The trip should have taken ten minutes. What was she doing that she took forty minutes? Did she stop to take a shit? Do her grocery shopping? Get an abortion?

So won't she have the cost of the meal deducted from her pay? Neither the restaurant nor the customer should have to pay for the wasted food.

R143 here

Also, at least some food delivery services pay into what would be a 'tip' if the tip is absent or too low. The catch being that it replaces what a customer tips, and doesn't add on top. If more customers knew this, they're realize that by not tipping, the company is actually paying what they should have paid anyway. So when you tip for these (like Doordash?), the dashers don't even know what you tipped, so like, don't tip or don't give a small tip - only tip if its a rather large one. Because dashers get the money they should get anyway. Again, the companies are offloading to customers the proper pay for their delivery drivers. If we en-masse decided to not tip sit-in restaurants there would be months of struggle and propaganda to get us to revert, but then they would actually raise their pay averages. Whether that increase would be enough is another matter - high end places serving alcohol and hosting weddings would probably have disgruntled staff because they can rake in $100s on great days, but low end diners would have staff sighing in relief because they relied on good tip days to even survive, if they even manage that.

Fake

Hmm, I had a Dasher who definitely knew I hadn't left a tip, which I hadn't, because the option wasn't available on the grocery store's website. Sometimes they DO know what they've been tipped beforehand.

Honest question, but is an $8 tip bad? I usually tip like, $5 on these apps. It's a crap shoot and you have to do it in advance. I won't tip MORE than $8. Is that cheap? I always tip servers well, bartenders, hotel housekeeping, valet, concierge, tour guides, etc. Am I wrong here?

The old days were better, because I could tip on the receipt once delivered and feel generous in the moment and based on the actual service. Or if they're cute. ^_^

Instead now I tip up front and sometimes it's shit and other times it's great. No adjustment.

[quote] It seems like a rough, demoralizing way to earn a meager wage.

Oh come on R111. Someone can do that job in their pajamas. No, it's not tons of money but it affords you plenty of flexibility and it's also not meant to be a primary source of income.

Jesus fucking Christ there is an entire big world out there full of human beings that do legitimately demoralizing, rough jobs for PENNIES. Kids hocking fruits and vegetables on the sides of roads. In the Philippines we took a Grab (their Uber) that - due to REAL traffic unlike this cunt - took 1.5 hours for 15 miles. We were quoted about 750PHP for the ride ($15) and there the quote is locked in when you order the call and you pay CASH after so it's not even guaranteed for them.

We tipped 1,000PHP ($20) on top of that fare because it's an obscene time and distance. The driver looked at us like we were angels from heaven and kept saying god bless you. THOSE are people who struggle. No welfare, no stimulus, high risk, and long hours.

This cunt can take her $8 tip and fuck herself 50 ways from Sunday.

That bag she carried away was small and she never once said "your order was 200 dollars, why are you tipping me 8" she just complained about the distance. She drove 12 miles and was demanding more than 8 dollars for her time...time she was already being compensated for. She even said it took her 40 minutes to drive it. Okay so she has decided in addition to her pay for delivery she should get more than 12 dollars an hour for driving. Bitch it is a tip. I decide how much to give you ON TOP of what I paid.

I would hate to visit USA. I wouldn't know who should be tipped and who not. And how much. And all the weird taxes that differ from state to state and aren't listed on the price tag. Such a confusing country

R135 many DLers seem to overtip and think you should be paying 30% on the tax also.

They should have called the cops immediately when she started ranting. Keep her at the door debating the issue while the police walk up behind her. Then grab the bag as she screams and resists arrest saying, "There's your tip, BITCH!".

And what exactly would the police do? What would you even tell them is the reason you are calling them?

r152 I have UK friends who (when we could travel) would come travel with us in the US. They just looked to me to tell them what to tip - and every time i tried to explain the concept they would say "why not just pay them more and put the cost to the customer."

As someone who has door dashed to supplement my income $8 is a pretty good tip on top of your share.

I always tip $0

R159 must be British.

When you give a tip, remember it may also have to cover the 10 or 15 minutes the delivery guy takes to 'process' your ID in the event of booze in your order.

I got a food and booze delivery today via some guy who didn't speak much English. He didn't know what the fuck he was doing, couldn't operate his system. Told me several times my ID was "NO GOOD!" He phoned his boss in Ouagadougou with whom he spoke in tongues; together they couldn't work it out. He took several pics of said ID; then took a written note of said ID - I wouldn't be surprised if they attempt to hack my ID as a result. He didn't complain about the $9 (15%) tip, barely acknowledged it actually - captured ID is their reward it seems. I would complain but given the times we live in, won't be complaining unless I find any probs with my ID. The driver was delivering, as a third party, for a multinational household name supplier in which I am a shareholder, for now (until I sell my stock).

I trust you Emily a food taster, R159.

Emily a food taster?

Grubhub in CA pays 16/hr(looks like13 in NY). They also pay their employees 1.50 per delivery. If you did your job well and didn't get lost you could probably make 2 deliveries an hour. With an $8 tip plus the 1.50 times two plus hourly wage that's $30-36/hr. I was a librarian in SF in 2017 and that's about what I made! Delivery driver is an awful job and I wouldn't want it but with some hustle in the right area, you could make bank.

[quote] $30-36/hr. I was a librarian in SF in 2017 and that's about what I made!

For a short while, to fill a gap in my budget, I was a temp contract lawyer and made $50 per hour. There was no proof-reading: I was expected to conduct the cases with gusto (which I did) and appear in court. I would not do overtime and got my $350 per day. I was well-beloved by the firm (at $50 per hour) and they asked me to stay on a salary (no overtime, natch) but I had better things to do. But I was glad of the money at the time. Also some of the work was outside my beaten path so I learnt some stuff on the job: there is, regrettably, not much professional learning on food delivery (I imagine).

If ever I have to go back to the gig economy, I will do food delivery: much easier than worrying about what the judge is going to think and fighting with my (no so learned) opponent for $50 ph.

Aren’t you called solicitors over there?

Why do people believe that every video they see is real?