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Why did the Jews leave Israel in the first place?

and why, if they've been around for 4,000 years didn't they form a Jewish country before? - somewhere else if Israel was out?

I had a Jewish friend at school who used to talk about 4,000 year thing very proudly.

by Anonymousreply 46January 5, 2021 6:07 PM

Why did black people leave Africa in the first place?

You see how stupid you sound, OP?

by Anonymousreply 1January 5, 2021 1:12 AM

Ummm... majority of modern Jews (Ashkenazi) descend from Southern Europeans who converted at the height of the Roman Empire.

Also Pagan Europe was Christianized through force by the Roman Empire. Christianity was spread through the world by colonization.

Modern Israel was founded by the West as a reparation for the Holocaust. Christians founded Israel because Christianity believes that Jews were the "Chosen people" and Protestants especially support Israel due to being heavier on the Biblical inerracy.

by Anonymousreply 2January 5, 2021 1:12 AM

Are you so dumb or lazy that you can't look up some basic history online, OP?

by Anonymousreply 3January 5, 2021 1:12 AM

I wouldn't know. Butter wouldn't melt in my mouth.

by Anonymousreply 4January 5, 2021 1:13 AM

There have been several diasporas of Jews from Israel over time.

This article provides some good basics.

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by Anonymousreply 5January 5, 2021 1:13 AM

[quote] Are you so dumb or lazy that you can't look up some basic history online, OP?

Why don't you explain, bet you can't.

by Anonymousreply 6January 5, 2021 1:14 AM

We wanted to go to Florida, stupid goy!

by Anonymousreply 7January 5, 2021 1:15 AM

Also Israel was a kingdom and it was not a country. Countries with borders are a modern concept.

by Anonymousreply 8January 5, 2021 1:15 AM

The stupidity of this thread is beyond belief, especially R2.

by Anonymousreply 9January 5, 2021 1:15 AM

[quote]Ummm... majority of modern Jews (Ashkenazi) descend from Southern Europeans who converted at the height of the Roman Empire.

That is a theory that was promoted by white supremacists. ANd has been disproven by scholars and DNA testing.

If you repeat it you are no better than Neo Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 10January 5, 2021 1:16 AM

To answer the OP's ignorant question, Jews were expelled from Judea (why they are called "Jews") , which is what Romans referred to the area as.

by Anonymousreply 11January 5, 2021 1:17 AM

Many Jews remained in Israel and many others continued to return there over the centuries. The Jews had no intention of "forming a country". They wanted to 1. Survive. 2. Return to their OWN COUNTRY.

by Anonymousreply 12January 5, 2021 1:18 AM

Because Joseph and Mary called too late for reservations.

by Anonymousreply 13January 5, 2021 1:18 AM

R10

Jews during the Ancient Roman occupation of the Near East did proselytize throughout Rome. Many Romans converted to Judaism and also many Jews and Romans mixed.

Israel is a modern day country created in 1948. Majority of Jews are European and they do have some Levantine DNA.

And also Christianity is just a sect of Messianic Judaism.

Religion in general is an outdated thing and the no religion should have it's own country.

by Anonymousreply 14January 5, 2021 1:18 AM

[quote]To answer the OP's ignorant question

The whole point of questions is that they're ignorant. You sound GHASTLY.

by Anonymousreply 15January 5, 2021 1:20 AM

R14 None of which answers anything in OP's post. And it's pure bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 16January 5, 2021 1:21 AM

The Jews were expelled from Judea by the Romans after a failed war of independence in 70 A.D. They kept alive a dream of reclaiming their homeland for centuries and did not want another country. They believed the land of Israel was sacred to them and not just a country to live in. Many of them continued to immigrate back into Israel over the centuries.

by Anonymousreply 17January 5, 2021 1:29 AM

Why did the gays leave Sodom and Gomorrah in the first place?

by Anonymousreply 18January 5, 2021 1:34 AM

Nearly every fact given in this thread about the diaspora of the Jews is completely wrong. It's kind of astounding how completely wrong it is. It's not like everyone needs to be some expert on Jewish history, but the ease with which people post completely ignorant, wrongheaded things is really awful. If you don't know, just admit you don't know. It's okay.

by Anonymousreply 19January 5, 2021 1:52 AM

Thread closed.

by Anonymousreply 20January 5, 2021 2:25 AM

Really, OP?

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by Anonymousreply 21January 5, 2021 3:03 AM

R6, It's called history. It comprises, like, at least a couple books.

by Anonymousreply 22January 5, 2021 3:23 AM

There sure has been a lot of talk about Jews lately. Is there a new (or returning) Nazi troll around here?

by Anonymousreply 23January 5, 2021 3:51 AM

To get to the half off sale in Paramus.

by Anonymousreply 24January 5, 2021 4:13 AM

Israeli Jews in America are a little too exclusive for my taste. They don’t even try and mix with other kinds. Very insular. And the men are uneducated misogynists. And they all vote Trump. It’s ridic.

by Anonymousreply 25January 5, 2021 4:50 AM

Because Miami has all-you-can-eat buffets.

by Anonymousreply 26January 5, 2021 4:54 AM

No seasons.

by Anonymousreply 27January 5, 2021 4:54 AM

Another thread full of posters proudly displaying their complete ignorance, stupidity about bigotry.

by Anonymousreply 28January 5, 2021 4:55 AM

^^^ and, not about ^^^

by Anonymousreply 29January 5, 2021 4:55 AM

A bad case of diaspora rash.

by Anonymousreply 30January 5, 2021 4:57 AM

Someone dropped a quarter in the desert?

by Anonymousreply 31January 5, 2021 4:59 AM

[quote] Christianity believes that Jews were the "Chosen people"

That’s probably less important than God believing it.

by Anonymousreply 32January 5, 2021 4:59 AM

OMG, r19's pretentious, condescending, know-it-all attitude has me creaming my jeans!

by Anonymousreply 33January 5, 2021 5:03 AM

Dumb OP picked the worst website for factual information.

But if you’re so ignorant and lazy, you can thank empires like Egypt, Babylon, Rome, Arabia, Russia and more for forcibly relocating the Jews from Israel constantly throughout history.

by Anonymousreply 34January 5, 2021 5:14 AM

“Religion in general is an outdated thing and the no religion should have it's own country.” R 14

Amen to that. 56 Muslim countries and Pakistan specifically for Muslims agree with you!!

by Anonymousreply 35January 5, 2021 8:03 AM

Why are Jews so disliked? My best friend growing up was Jewish. I genuinely don't understand why they would be so hated.

by Anonymousreply 36January 5, 2021 11:08 AM

The gays who hate Jews, or ‘Zionists’’ as they prefer to label it, don’t realise that their fellow Antisemites hate them as much if not more than they hate Jews.

by Anonymousreply 37January 5, 2021 12:07 PM

Agree with R23 and R37.

It seems as though every couple of weeks someone, like OP, wakes up and thinks how can I smear Jewish people today?

by Anonymousreply 38January 5, 2021 12:17 PM

What religion was Jesus Christ's mother?

by Anonymousreply 39January 5, 2021 12:18 PM

The Romans were no better than the Nazi’s and drove many Jews out of Israel through threats and persecution.

by Anonymousreply 40January 5, 2021 12:20 PM

r10 Saying Jews are white makes you akin to a Neo Nazi now? I thought trying to prove Jews were NOT white was the Nazi's schtick.

by Anonymousreply 41January 5, 2021 3:47 PM

R16

I did some research and you're right. Ashkenazi Jews are distinctive ethnic group and genetically distinct from other European groups due to centuries of isolation and endogamy but they are a mix of Levantine and European (particularly Italian) DNA which explains the wide array of phenotypes that can range from dark to fair. I really am not trying to be anti-Semitic. I understand why Israel as a modern country was created.

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by Anonymousreply 42January 5, 2021 4:01 PM

[quote] What religion was Jesus Christ's mother?

Did she just belong to one? Many people convert during their lifetimes.

by Anonymousreply 43January 5, 2021 5:36 PM

[quote][R10] Saying Jews are white makes you akin to a Neo Nazi now? I thought trying to prove Jews were NOT white was the Nazi's schtick.

Some people think it's dreadful that anti Jewish cunts like you feel free to share their views so openly.

I think it's a good thing, to know that one of the oldest hatreds in the world is still around and the new forms it takes.

by Anonymousreply 44January 5, 2021 5:47 PM

From Wikipedia:

The first exile was the Assyrian exile, the expulsion from the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) begun by Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria in 733 BCE. This process was completed by Sargon II with the destruction of the kingdom in 722 BCE, concluding a three-year siege of Samaria begun by Shalmaneser V. The next experience of exile was the Babylonian captivity, in which portions of the population of the Kingdom of Judah were deported in 597 BCE and again in 586 BCE by the Neo-Babylonian Empire under the rule of Nebuchadnezzar II.

A Jewish diaspora existed for several centuries before the fall of the Second Temple, and their dwelling in other countries for the most part was not a result of compulsory dislocation.[5] Before the middle of the first century CE, in addition to Judea, Syria and Babylonia, large Jewish communities existed in the Roman provinces of Syria Palaestina, Egypt, Crete and Cyrenaica, and in Rome itself;[6] after the Siege of Jerusalem in 63 BCE, when the Hasmonean kingdom became a protectorate of Rome, emigration intensified.[citation needed] In 6 CE the region was organized as the Roman province of Judea. The Judean population revolted against the Roman Empire in 66 CE in the First Jewish–Roman War which culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE. During the siege, the Romans destroyed the Second Temple and most of Jerusalem. This watershed moment, the elimination of the symbolic centre of Judaism and Jewish identity constrained many Jews to reformulate a new self-definition and adjust their existence to the prospect of an indefinite period of displacement.[7]

In 132 CE, Bar Kokhba led a rebellion against Hadrian, a revolt connected with the renaming of Jerusalem as Aelia Capitolina. After four years of devastating warfare, the uprising was suppressed, and Jews were forbidden access to Jerusalem.

by Anonymousreply 45January 5, 2021 5:51 PM

I love DL . You can get some of the smartest answers for some of the dumbest questions. OP-If your not a troll, you should probably get off DL and read a few books. I should also. It's true there have been a lot of threads that are almost beyond the pale.

by Anonymousreply 46January 5, 2021 6:07 PM
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