Debbie Reynolds Is A Cunt

She's dead, OP, so "was" would be a more appropriate verb.

Shelley drove Debbie crazy when they filmed What's The Matter With Helen, so I suspect Debbie was just paying her back.

She knows why.

Actually what Deb says are statements of fact. Shelley was fat, old and by her own admission (read her autobiographies - though I think half of what is written is pure fantasy) a slut.

I'm surprised at how Debbie tore into Shelley and Shelley just lets it go.

But evidently Shelley Winters and Lauren Bacall used to rip into each other every chance they got, pelting each other with truly vicious one-liners. I guess after Bacall, Debbie was a cream puff.

Poor Shelley got neither hearts nor diamonds, just blintzes.

R5 Lauren Bacall was having an affair with Shelley's husband Tony Franciosa and according to Shelley's bio Lauren was growing impatient waiting for him and called up Shelley and wanted to know where Tony was!

Is there anything more tiresome than an aging actress talking about her past? Abba dabba dabba ...

R8 Yes, aging queens obsessing over dead actresses.

Poor Carrie. (Debs was a narcissist)

Quite nice tits.

OT, but I was having breakfast at a BH deli, Nate n Als next to a table of about ten with Shelley holding court. She was so funny, wild and fun. Suddenly, she jumps up...literally doubled up in laughter and YELLS...”I gotta tingle” and races to the ladies room. Such a cute moment and everyone in the restaurant is laughing.

Ok, I guess you’d have to have been there.

^^ I wish I had been.

Shelley should’ve launched into an anecdote about fucking Eddie Fischer while his then wife was promoting “Tammy and the Bachelor.”

Didn't Debbie play in the "lady pond"?

I used to be on her side but now I see why Eddie dumped her.

Here's her TV show theme, the whole show was STOLEN from "I Love Lucy."

Debbie was always a cunt. She destroyed Carrie. They waited to pull the plug on the old bitch until Carrie was dead, so Debby would grab all the headlines. Even in death, she was a cunt.

In the water I'm a very skinny lady.

And so was Shelley.

DR sounds like the ultimate FRAU.

I like her (& Merv) less after watching this.

I took an acting class at the Debbie Reynolds rehearsal studio taught by Charles Nelson-Reilly.

R20 Did you get any work from that experience?

But who has the Oscars, bitch?

R21, I got work on Mork & Mindy, Angie, Charlie's Angels.

They both gave ALOT of blowjobs. So much cum in their tummies.

R24 You're talking about SW & Merv aren't you?

R10 and R17 She was portrayed exactly like this in Postcards From The Edge. Everything was about Debbie.

When the show came on, Debbie Reynolds did a big interview in the TV GUIDE. She was very dismissive of Lucille Ball and her show, and began to list of the differences..... Debbie is this....Lucy is not.....she listed about six things.

The next week TV GUIDE printed a letter from a viewer in that section that read:

"She forgot something in her list....Lucy is funny.....Debbie Reynolds is not!"

R8 Yes, most of today's vacuous, personality and talent deficient actor/activists talking about themselves.

I always felt bad for Shelly in Debbie’s work out video.

R16 If Amazon can dig up the whole run of Jim Nabor's short-lived 1978 talk show (about 75 episodes total), why can't they bring back Debbie's sitcom.

Beneath the fluffy blonde wigs and ingratiating smile, Debbie was hard as nails. Shelley came across as a tough dame but inside was quite vulnerable and needy. Interesting contrast.

Oh please, Debbie sold herself to a fugly millionaire for $ecurity (though Carrie said he had a big cock). As (her) luck would have it though, he spent her money on hookers- then died heavily in debt.

Debbie had wanted to be a gym teacher before she became an actress...

OP, that's Merv Griffin, not Mike Douglas.

What happened to all of the movie costumes Debbie owned and had on display? Were they auctioned off to whoever could buy them? I hope not.

R32 How distasteful.

r35 Debbie sold off her vast collection of movie memorabilia in 2011, including a pair of ruby slippers from the Wizard of Oz. She made a fortune -- and I assume her talentless son Todd received most of it.

One of my uncle said he saw Debbie and some other old time actors out to dinner once in Las Vegas once. He described Debbie as foul mouthed. Wasn’t it Liz Taylor who called her a football player?

Does anyone else remember the LARRY KING LIVE episode right after Sinatra died, in which Larry gathered the likes of Don Rickles, Vic Damone, Steve Lawrence and Our Debbie?

I'd kill to see it again -- specifically the moment when Rickles (uncharacteristically, though understandably, subdued throughout) talks about how Sinatra wasn't particularly warm/affectionate, only to be interrupted by Debbie, who chirps something like "Well, Don, I always found Frank very friendly with women, and with some male friends like Steve -- maybe he just didn't like YOU."

After a beat, Rickles smiles grimly and says, "Thanks, Debbie. God bless."

Dear OP, I have no interest in this woman at all but I do dislike your use of the four letter word in your headline.

I recently watched an interview with Tab Hunter, and when he was asked about Debbie Reynolds, he described her as "off the wall" and "pretty out there"; "she called a spade a spade." I imagine that people who knew Debbie knew exactly what they were going to get--direct and to the point snarkiness.

Oh please, she was a decade OLDER than young Tab!

Debbie gave good blowjobs.

So did Nancy Ray-Gun!!!

^Peter Lawford

When anyone in Hollywood died, Larry King had Debbie on his show that night with her memories, even if she didn't know them.

Courtney Love,Madonna, Barbra Streisand....these wonderfully generous,gifted, u-n-c-o-m-p-l-i-c-a-t-e-d women

Well, she's no Shirley Temple.

Yeah, Bacall fucked Shelley's husband (one of them). Shelley never had a wife, so Debbie couldn't fuck her.

Yeah, Bacall fucked Shelley's husband (one of them). Shelley never had a wife, so Debbie couldn't fuck her.

[Quote] I'd kill to see it again -- specifically the moment when Rickles (uncharacteristically, though understandably, subdued throughout) talks about how Sinatra wasn't particularly warm/affectionate, only to be interrupted by Debbie, who chirps something like "Well, Don, I always found Frank very friendly with women, and with some male friends like Steve -- maybe he just didn't like YOU." After a beat, Rickles smiles grimly and says, "Thanks, Debbie. God bless."

Rickles comes off worse in that anecdote. Someone just died and your impulse is to say on national television: "He wasn't warm. Well, not to her. Well, not to us."?

[Quote] I'd kill to see it again -- specifically the moment when Rickles (uncharacteristically, though understandably, subdued throughout) talks about how Sinatra wasn't particularly warm/affectionate, only to be interrupted by Debbie, who chirps something like "Well, Don, I always found Frank very friendly with women, and with some male friends like Steve -- maybe he just didn't like YOU." After a beat, Rickles smiles grimly and says, "Thanks, Debbie. God bless."

Rickles comes off worse in that anecdote. Someone just died and your impulse is to say on national television: "He wasn't warm. Well, not to her. Well, not to us."?

[Quote] I'd kill to see it again -- specifically the moment when Rickles (uncharacteristically, though understandably, subdued throughout) talks about how Sinatra wasn't particularly warm/affectionate, only to be interrupted by Debbie, who chirps something like "Well, Don, I always found Frank very friendly with women, and with some male friends like Steve -- maybe he just didn't like YOU." After a beat, Rickles smiles grimly and says, "Thanks, Debbie. God bless."

Rickles comes off worse in that anecdote. Someone just died and your impulse is to say on national television: "He wasn't warm. Well, not to her. Well, not to us."?

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The Mary Wickes character in Postcards pretty much gives you the "why" of Debbie.

Mary Wickes practically stole that movie.

Debbie never really was able to overcome the stigma of being dumped by Eddie for Liz. She was the Jennifer Anniston of her age.

Talented to be sure but with a goody-goody image. When I was in Las Vegas years ago I found her costume museum in the phone book. It was in an old 50s era hotel near the Visitors Center. The patrons looked to be old glam pots in their 90s but no museum. It had been closed for several years but for some reason still had a listing in the phone book.

I don't remember the name of the hotel at the time but when she was the owner it was the Debbie Reynolds Hotel.

This is a good article from Vanity Fair 2016. It features a video of her collection before the auction, which earned her $25 million, and a gallery of photos from her life.

She sounds like she was a typical DLr then, lol

R57, I remember staying at the Debbie Reynolds' Hollywood Hotel with my parents back in the '90s. It was on Convention Center Drive, and was formerly The Paddlewheel Hotel & Casino, which was a kid friendly establishment that my parents tried to book, only to find it had been bought by Debbie. There was indeed a costume museum, which we toured, and the night's entertainment was Debbie herself, who sang and cracked corny and suggestive jokes and regaled us with anecdotes from Hollywood's yesteryear. My parents loved her, but to me, she was a lady past her prime still trying to be sexy in sequined gown much too tight for her plump frame.

[R51]/[R52]/[R53], I certainly didn't say that that was the only thing Rickles said. I was zeroing in on a particular moment. It was very obvious throughout how deeply saddened he'd been by his friend's passing.

I saw Debbie Reynolds open for Don Rickles in some casino Resort an hour or so from San Diego. One of my high school friends who lives in San Diego saw an ad for it, called me cause she knew I’d love it, and I was on the next plane there!

It was wild. We were the youngest people there by decades. It happened to be the night that Carrie had a psychotic break while performing on a gay cruise and Debbie sent a plane to fetch her. Coincidentally, another good friend was on that cruise and was in the audience when Carrie flipped out.

Anyway, Debbie didn’t let Carrie’s breakdown keep her from the stage!

She was a complete whack job. And her act was completely canned with zero sincerity. Loved every minute!

Afterward, a couple of guys from Don Rickles band asked us to hang out so we spent the night at the casino bar with them. They told us great stories about touring with Rickles. They had been with him for years.

Sorry but I try to wedge this story in every chance I get...

Someone upthread said that narcissist Debbie ruined Carrie's life. I bet a lot of children of Narcs end up damaged. And a lot of ppl in show biz are narcs.

Vanessa Redgrave was one, I think. I always remember this story about her and her daughter Natasha Richardson: At a dinner they both attended, someone asked Vanessa what it was like for her to have dinner with Bill Clinton – Vanessa said, "The real question is what it was like for him to have dinner with ME!"

Natasha deadpanned, “See what I’ve had to live with?”

Carrie has talked about being the child of two stars and feeling she came up short. With all the pressure of having success in Hollywood and having those problems it isn't the least bit surprising she was dulling the pain with drugs and booze. She wasn't as attractive as her parents and didn't have half their talent. Still she could come up with a funny line and seemed like a pleasant amiable individual who had a lot to deal with.

It sounds like Natasha was funny. Carrie's funny. I think growing up with narcissistic parents makes you funny. (John Cleese once said his mother was the most hateful person he'd ever known and she lived to be 100 or whatever and said he thought she'd never die - he was in therapy for years, trying to get over her - even married his psychiatrist, and his first wife became a psychologist - Connie Booth, who he co-wrote Fawlty Towers with....

Sorry.... many many stories of comedians and their creepy mothers. David Letterman said his mother came to his standup when he was starting out - she went back stage and told him, "Dave, you're just not funny."

Sorry Connie - she became a psychotherapist! Whoa. That's the psychobabble big-time!!

I say that with love - I've spent 50 years trying to get over my own Narcissistic single mom. (I don't recommend having one if you can avoid it)

Debbie was a sucker who acted haughty when she was in the mood, but would turn to mush if you challenged her. She saw herself as a brave victim with a lot of talent. She was very needy, and would have strangers over and get clingy because she hated being alone. But she was, in her own way, honest and a good fried. It was good to stay away, though, when she was drinking too much.

I know.

As for Shelley, she always was a blousy, vague, exuberant and easily depressed person. Up and down. She developed the persona more as she aged and finally it was just the way she always was. I wouldn't have wanted to work with her. As a friend she was absolute gold - a very early supporter of gay people, a defender of Marilyn at her worst, generous, silly, unexpectedly thoughtful. "Slut" is a shaming, sexist term. It wasn't Shelley's fault that she liked sex and enjoyed it (and played with it for her career, especially early), while Debbie was a lesbian at heart who never really came to terms with herself fully.

Yes, I'm R67 and, again, I do know.

Do you want a parade or something, R67?

Nobody can be more ingratiating than a narcissist - when they want to be, when they want something from you, want attention, yada yada. Try turning on one though. Or even just wait till they see something better come along.

Maybe she was drunk, like everyone else on the show.

I saw her on a chat show once and she said her problem was her name. Had she been "Deborah" Reynolds instead of Debbie, she would have been taken seriously. Ah, poor dear.

Blowsy wowsie

Mike Douglas was super gay