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Actors/actresses and their social views.

I'm not a republican nor gratuitously cynical, but I think actors and actresses don't care about social issues as much as they let on. I believe most would work with Cosby/Weinstein types in a heartbeat if they knew the media would leave them alone about it.

Your thoughts on this subject?

by Anonymousreply 3702/28/2021

Being an actor/activist can keep them relevant and in the news and on social media. It's more about them than the issue(s). They're hypocrites for the most part.

by Anonymousreply 112/31/2020

Actors who will only work with decent, moral, non-criminal people won't get a lot of work outside of Indie films where they're paid scale.

The fact is that actors have very little power, compared to the upper-level producers, directors, and studio executives. Actors are all independent contractors and the suits are the ones that hire them, or refuse to hire them if they make trouble, and the power-hungry suits know it. Some of them take advantage of their power over actors and other people in the entertainment industry, and those that don't won't lift a finger against those that do, and if there's trouble they'll probably protect their fellow suit just to maintain the status quo. Really, the people who go around slamming actors wor working with the likes of Weinstein don't get it - if you want to work in Hollywood, that means working with scum artists. Even if the actors try to bypass the Weinsteins and produce their own films, they still need to work with these guys if they want financing and distribution.

by Anonymousreply 212/31/2020

Reasons why most would work with those types if they could get away with it:

-Some simply don't care

-Some think it's interesting/edgy/whatever to work with controversial/bad figures

-Some separate personal life (no matter how bad) from art

by Anonymousreply 312/31/2020

R2 well said. Now if only the cancel culture on twitter understood that.

by Anonymousreply 412/31/2020

Everyone in Hollywood is signed up to star in David O. Russell's new movie. Russell is even worse than Joss Whedon. You can't tell me they're forced to work with him. He's talented and as long as the media is quit about him, they don't care that he's a piece of shit.

by Anonymousreply 502/16/2021

Well dim Damon knew about Weinstein and Gwyneth and surely must have realized that if Harvey is going after upper eastside born Paltrow whose father was a producer and director and whose mom is Blythe Danner than imagine what he'd do to that prototypical wide-eyed starlet from Topeka. Kansas.

by Anonymousreply 602/16/2021

I don't think it's a case of "they have to work with scumbags or else they'd have no career." That's taking the easy way out Maybe for D-listers that's true, but not everyone else. They want to work with talented/powerful people and not think about the scummy part. They'll continue to do it until it gets bad for their image. Then they'll turn all righteous like they did with Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.

by Anonymousreply 702/16/2021

They're all whores darlin.

by Anonymousreply 802/16/2021

What people SAY and what people DO are often two different things.

Especially for neurotic people who get paid to pretend.

by Anonymousreply 902/16/2021

Most actors and actresses are dimwits, so you have to cut them some slack. There are exceptions, of course. I think Jodie Foster and Lisa Kudrow, for example, are probably pretty smart.

But, as a whole, they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

by Anonymousreply 1002/17/2021

The drama geeks in high school who went on to act weren't the popular, attractive people. They're desperate for love, attention, acclaim. A healthy person with normal self esteem probably wouldn't do what they do. I've done some modeling and hated it- it is dehumanizing. You are treated as an object. You have to really, really want fame (not really money because that's never as much as it seems) and eat so much pride to be treated like that. Or already be broken.

by Anonymousreply 1102/17/2021

I've never met an actor who wasn't basically a needy, power-worshipping, attention-seeking POS.

by Anonymousreply 1202/17/2021

There's a lot of interesting/complicated issues that everyone in the industry needs to have a conversation about, but most would rather not because they're afraid of finding out/admitting that they're hypocrites.

by Anonymousreply 1302/19/2021

They're cowards.

by Anonymousreply 1402/19/2021

Are there any actors who are decent people anymore? What happens to you when you get to Hollywood and become successful? Why are so many of them susceptible to corruption and in some cases, depravity?

by Anonymousreply 1502/20/2021

Most actors/actresses want to work, get famous and make money. They don't want to think about the dark side of the industry. They sure as hell don't want to think about their own hypocrisy/answer any tough questions.

by Anonymousreply 1602/22/2021

That's true of all women, OP.

by Anonymousreply 1702/22/2021

[Quote] They'll continue to do it until it gets bad for their image. Then they'll turn all righteous like they did with Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.

Of course there are exceptions e.g ScarJo.

[Quote] Why are so many of them susceptible to corruption and in some cases, depravity?

Hollyweird does seem to attract the mentally ill.

by Anonymousreply 1802/22/2021

Most actors/actresses (and most celebrities in general) are not evil, but they do want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to save the world, but they also don't mind working with scumbags to further their own career.

by Anonymousreply 1902/24/2021

Before social media, it was a lot easier for them to work with the (talented) scumbags and more or less get away with it. It's a whole different ballgame now.

by Anonymousreply 2002/24/2021

Most celebrities in general want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to save the world, but they have no personal qualms working with scumbags to further their career/bank account.

by Anonymousreply 2102/24/2021

This is why I can't stand the likes of Winslet. They are happy to work with Woody, Roman and Harvey until they cannot get away with it in the age of woke. Then they denounce them ipso facto as if they were conned.

by Anonymousreply 2202/24/2021


Please! Tell us MORE about your experiences with M.

by Anonymousreply 2302/24/2021

It was nice to have a legit reason to dismiss Emma Watson, after she endorsed Mermaids. Before that, everyone was just calling me a bitter jealous hater for saying she had no acting talent, no star power, and no other credential either.

Good for her making her money that young and taking it off the hands of nerdy weirdos; I really do respect the hustle, if nothing else. And she does seem a genuinely nice enough, sweet woman who is quite pretty. Bully for her.

All the same, she seems like she’s in the wrong business altogether. My imagination insists should work in a posh suburb somewhere, perhaps as a well-intentioned but clueless Nanny, or as a bookshop clerk, or as a local library assistant or primary school teaching assistant. She just doesn’t come over as someone who’s particularly creatively smart or dynamic or anyone to watch.

by Anonymousreply 2402/24/2021

Films are made by many people. The main crew of the film might be great and upstanding people, but what if they have a horrible producer like Weinstein? Does that mean everyone involved in the film is culpable? He was a piece of shit, but he did finance some good movies every now and then.

by Anonymousreply 2502/24/2021

Hollywood exposes the ugly, base natures in people.

by Anonymousreply 2602/27/2021

A lot of people in the industry just want to go for the low-hanging fruit and call it a day. They won't dare call out someone who is still relevant.

by Anonymousreply 2702/27/2021

I'd like to know how many of them screaming for 50% representation all the time would give up their jobs so a black person could take their roles? It's easier to push for over-representation when you know your job is safe, it also takes away some of the future competition that other white people working their way up could cause them.

by Anonymousreply 2802/27/2021

Even the most woke of celebs are not immune to hypocrisy. For example: I can't 100% prove that Jessica Chastain was aware of Matthew, but I do know his domestic violence record has been all over Wikipedia for years. Plus, articles and videos. Look, celebrities have armies of handlers. Jessica was even a major producer on this movie. The evidence suggests that it's practically impossible that she didn't know.

by Anonymousreply 2902/27/2021

*Matthew Newton

by Anonymousreply 3002/27/2021

[quote]OP: republican

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 3102/27/2021

Too many people in the industry put art, fame and money over decency.

by Anonymousreply 3202/27/2021

Okay, here's the deal:

Most actors/actresses are very ambitious and will work with awful people in the name of art/fame/money. Especially if the press isn't poking their nose around.

Some actors/actresses are awful themselves - so of course, they don't give a shit.

Then there's the Jessica Chastain types who will work with problematic people if they build enough of a personal connection with them.

by Anonymousreply 3302/28/2021


[quote] I'm not a republican nor gratuitously cynical,

Oh Dear.

FWIW OP, few today know how to tastefully utilize not ...or construction.

by Anonymousreply 3402/28/2021

Its all about the money, most will do anything to make money.

by Anonymousreply 3502/28/2021

R35 Including Harvey Weinstein.

by Anonymousreply 3602/28/2021

But Jessica didn't form enough of a connection with Matthew Newton not to force him to walk away from the director's chair when the media was just starting to turn up the heat.

by Anonymousreply 3702/28/2021
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