Lauren Graham must HATE Melissa McCarthy, right?

Yeah, she probably does. But the tragedy of it for her is that nobody cares.

Because I was never a GG fan, Lauren Graham has always been kind of inexplicable to me. I remember seeing her on PARENTHOOD and now ZOE'S PLAYLIST (or whatever) and thinking she always plays these angry, charmless characters. She's not ugly, but no great beauty either--was she considered "hot" on GG?

I never knew Lauren Graham was that big of a cunt

I always figured Jenny McCarthy must hate Melissa. She was the one who gave her a big break when she let her work on her crappy show on MTV. Then when Melissa made it big after Bridesmaids I bet ol plastic tiddies was green with envy. She was probably thinking that she is pretty and thin, she should be the famous one and not her fat cousin.

Graham could have gotten away with being a cunt had she not shown it so often in interviews. I remember one or two interviews for Evan Almighty being posted here on DL and she was complaining bitterly in both of them.

She also derailed the whole storyline of GG because she didn't like Scott Patterson, which is probably justified, but people don't like working with actors who are going to cause that big of a fuss. There are other ways to deal with bad coworkers besides forcing the show to make stupid writing choices.

I thought Jenny wouldn't help Melissa and was kind of a bitch about her weight

I’ve heard from former Parenthood crew members that Lauren Graham is great to work with. That was ten years after GG so maybe she was a cunt when she first got famous?

Either way, Melissa McCarthy rules.

Graham shouldn't be selfish. McCarthy has surpassed her for sure, but Graham gets to sleep with Peter Krause every night.

You can't have everything.

Not as much as Lauren would have hated it if Scott Patterson had become a movie star.

There's much much less competition in the niche that McCarthy occupies in the industry.

Peter Krause is a gigantic douche.

What was Graham's problem with Scott Patterson?

[quote]She was probably thinking that she is pretty and thin, she should be the famous one and not her fat cousin.

Well, Jenny was/is thin, anyway. So there's that.

Melissa has more comic and dramatic talent in her pinky than Jenny will ever possess. The fact that Jenny is still "a thing" at all over the years is shocking.

The industry is very random. Lauren Graham may have been a bitch on ‘Gilmore Girls,’ but the business is full of assholes; wasn’t Helen Hunt known to be a nightmare on ‘Mad About You?’

She’s about the same age as Graham, less talented and attractive, but did make it inexplicably big for a few years.

LG’s current career slump may be due to her not aging particularly well. At times, she looks like a brunette Amy Schumer.

She's definitely put on some post menopausal weight (but who hasn't?). I never thought she was a raving beauty and could be really irritating on GG. Plus her hair was SOOOO bad on that show, especially the hair extension years.

I loved the Gilmore Girls. I've watched it back and it doesn't hold up as well as I'd hoped. The limited series reboot on Netflix was an utter disaster. That's the last thing the show needed after it went down the shitter in its last two years and had a not-so-memorable series finale.

When I watch the series back, I trace its decline to the addition of the character Jess played by Milo Ventimiglia. From then on they insisted that the grounded, sensible Rory always fall for the bad boy. Logan was next. I found that change in her character very annoying.

I've heard that Lauren Graham felt strongly that the character of Lorelei should end up with her ex-husband, and Rory's father, Christopher. Almost every fan I knew wanted her with Luke. Christopher was a spoiled, impulsive baby who refused to grow up. Luke was the stable guy who would always be there for you. I hate when actors think they know better where their characters should go when it's so obvious from a fan standpoint that's not the right direction.

I love Melissa McCarthy. I'm glad her talent was recognized. I used to tell my ex she was one of the best things on the Gilmore Girls series.

[quote] She's definitely put on some post menopausal weight (but who hasn't?).

Not me

R14 Funnily enough, Lauren Graham only got the Parenthood gig because Helen Hunt turned it down.

Helen Hunt turned down a regular role on a network show? To do what instead? What a nut.

At least she gets Peter Krause's massive dick and hot tall body.

If she cold have set Scott on fire with her eyes, she would have. Those two hated each other like crazy, yet the audience saw it as sexual chemistry.

Melissa McCarthy stole every scene she was in. The amount of dialogue that Lauren Graham had to learn was incredible. But that's what I liked about it. You had to listen carefully but there were some gems in there. Some of the characters were annoying but they were meant to be. I wasn't a fan of Luke. I didn't think the character of Lorelai should have ever married. She declared her independence as a teen and marriage just didn't fit her character. She was meant to be alone. Dating - but taking life on by herself. I also liked most anything Paris said.

That's the thing. It was really a different show than the typical tv show back then.

As the poster said above, it’s aged incredibly poorly. It used to be one of my fav ever shows. I own the DVDs. Yet tried to watch one of the Original episodes earlier in the year and found it super tedious.

Gilmore Girls remains the whitest show in the history of television. I hate this show so much.

I loved the Paris character.

Saw her in a late ‘90s indie called WHATEVER that I recall liking.

Rewatching Gilmore Girls, you realize what a smug little ninny Rory is and that Lorelei is basically a slurry of cliched Gen X affectations (“I hate my parents because...reasons...but I love sarcasm, coffee and Turner Classic Movies!) Emily is the only Gilmore Girl that counts for anything in my books.

i think these relational issues are more in the mind of fans (and celeb watchers) than the actors in real life. People move on. If they got along and she likes Melissa, I'm sure she is happy for her.

What are Michael Heizer feelings about Lauren Graham?

A Facebook thread from when the revival was announced. Lauren...and most of the cast, were not well loved.

[Quote] The industry is very random. Lauren Graham may have been a bitch on ‘Gilmore Girls,’ but the business is full of assholes; wasn’t Helen Hunt known to be a nightmare on ‘Mad About You?’

I wonder what it was like working on this movie with these two 🤔

r26 Funny in the end Rory who used to be a promising intelligent girl in the series crawled back to Stars Hollow jobless and pregnant to repeat the same cycle as her mother who is also remain in the same town doing the same thing.

Yet Emily the supposedly stuck-up WASP old woman moved out of her home, left her DAR and become a guide in a museum. She really have the best character development among all the Gilmore girls.

Emily and Paris were the best of what was truly a cast full of awful characters. Most of the residents of Stars Hollow were assholes, and I say that as a huge fan of the show.

[quote]Lauren Graham must HATE Melissa McCarthy, right?

She's a woman. Why wouldn't she detest another woman?

A classic example of a show that thought it was way more intelligent than it actually was. More dialogue does not necessarily mean better dialogue.

It was the quirkiness of the satellite characters that made the show. Kirk and his film transcends time and taste.

In the early years of the show, Lauren Graham was cute and perky and I really liked her. As the show went on, however, her character started to grate on me. Paris, OTOH, was a wonderful character who stole every scene she was in and was deserving of an Emmy for her performance.

Was anyone here on the GG boards on TWOP?

Do you remember how a bunch of those ladies were plotting to take a studio tour, get off the bus at the Stars Hollow set during filming, then wander onto the set to be extras? They got the idea into their heads that extras were simply people found randomly here and there and anyone could do it.

I got banned almost permanently because I said that's not how extras worked. That Miss Allie or however you spell her name banned me and sent me a cunty message saying I didn't know anything about filming and I was probably wrong.

I only got unbanned because I replied back with links to my memberships in several mid-level film writing organizations and my published articles showing that yeah I did in fact know what the fuck I was talking about, and that if anyone involved in the show found out TWOP was encouraging these ladies to thwart studio security to hassle the cast and crew, they would not be pleased.

Suddenly my account came back and those ladies stopped plotting to sneak onto the set.

Years later I happened to see Miss Allie on Twitter had preemptively blocked me, which gave me a good laugh.

Jane Levy must be so relieved! I know I am.

Maura Tierney was first offered the LG role in Parenthood, not Helen Hunt.

I never watched Gilmore Girls.

Yet somehow, I feel whole and life is good.

Don't know if it's true, but I read that Melissa was snubbed by her cousin, and did not receive an invitation to the McCarthy/Wahlberg nuptials.

R41 what a classy affair she missed

[quote] Maura Tierney was first offered the LG role in Parenthood,

She filmed the pilot too - before she was diagnosed with breast cancer. She would have been so much better.

Or she is happy for her. Not everyone is a miserable, envious shitbag.

R44 Well hello little miss prissy goody goody shoes, why not go to the Hiliaria Baldwin thread and spread some good cheer how’s she just a misunderstood señorita.

Maura is a terrific actress and a lovely person

I've always loved MM and will watch her in just about anything. She did some good movies but also some terrible ones. Yet I just could not watch her in Mike + Mollie. She just looked bored by it all and she did not have her usual spark in that show. I thought that having a morbidly obese man (Billy Gardell) as her leading man certainly did not help. He must be one of the most unappealing actor to have a staring role in a sitcom in recent memories.

Sally Struthers and Rose Abdoo became best buds on Gilmore Girls (which I love and makes me laugh) and we're friends with Rose.

Word on the set was that Lauren was very territorial in her professional life and not very approachable. Melissa's storyline was getting too much attention and Lauren bristled at that, so there was tension when the show ended. Flash forward to the reboot and the power-career dynamic had changed completely and the showrunners did not think they could get Melissa back. She didn't want to do it, but realized she HAD to so there is this half-hearted bit shoe-horned near the end of the run. You can see no love lost between Suky and Lorelei in their scenes.

A great, big, fat (( AHEM! )) to R24.

The guy writing in the link in 29s post refers to Alexis Bliedel as " the biggest asshole I ever worked with".

I never trust someone with an extreme baby face. They tend to be spoiled and narcissistic.

Why do people watch and comment about shows they claim to hate? Don't you realize how pathetic you sound?

Oh, I’ve never hate watched it, I’ve just hated it from afar without any justification.

r47, I feel the same. I have watched anything MM is in, even the crappy movies, but I just could not bring myself to watch Mike & Molly. Probably due to my disdain for all those terrible, yet popular, CBS sitcoms.

I like Alexis Bliedel, so I can only conclude that the poisonous nature of Lauren Graham warped her.

It is fascinating how Parenthood had so many similar plots to GG, so you got to see LG play the same thing again in a different key.

I did love PARENTHOOD even though I was exhausted by the end by their refusal to have Miles' character come out. Least believable straight teen on TV ever.

I thought GG was reserved for Golden Girls? This is all getting very confusing.

Gilmore Blacks

R58 Lol, it went to a page saying “nothing here!”

R59, I googled and found the page to post here.

But going back now, only hours later, it seems to have disappeared.

I am sorry.

One more try for Gilmore Blacks. I found it again and went to multiple pages of Gilmore Blacks.

I bet Lauren Graham is a very sore loser, just a hunch.

[quote] Melissa's storyline was getting too much attention and Lauren bristled at that

I was a huge fan of the show and I cannot for the life of me remember any storyline of Sookie's that got much attention at all. She always felt like a character that the show had no idea what to do with outside of being an ear for Lorelai, in the same way Lane was for Rory.

I bet Lauren Graham had a very heavy flow before the menopause settled in.

This is the only Gilmore Girls I ever liked.

I bet Lauren Graham cheated at cards, and Monopoly too, ever noticed how she always insisted on being the banker?