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Celeste Holm, Grade A Cunt

I don't think she gets enough credit or is in the spotlight enough for her A level cuntery.

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by Anonymousreply 17501/14/2021

On her first day, on the set of “All About Eve”, she said “Good morning, Miss Davis. Bette responded: “Oh shit! Good manners!” It seems Bette read her beads and thought she was phony. Celeste refused to talk to Bette off the set, during the entire film.

by Anonymousreply 112/30/2020

The Backstory video of All About Eve is a great, short doc with a lot of fun commentary from Celeste Holm.

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by Anonymousreply 212/30/2020

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^***

You know, not for nothing, but if that story is true, then fuck Betty Davis right up her ass. How snarky and rude. Davis is clearly the cunt for creating this unnecessary scene....

by Anonymousreply 312/30/2020

R3, what's it like not being able to attend your Altar Guild functions because of the pandemic? Does your work at the library fill your time enough?

We're a little worried.

by Anonymousreply 412/30/2020

Grade A Cunts have a way of hiding their cuntry so that clear sighted truth tellers get blamed for calling a spade a spade.

by Anonymousreply 512/30/2020

Is it “cuntry” or “cuntery”?

by Anonymousreply 612/30/2020

I'm on Team Bette is this bitch fight.

Celeste thought her shit didn't stink because she was raised as the only child in a wealthy New York home. Hard-scrabble Bette tested her with the wisecrack, and instead of laughing it off Celeste took offense. And it lasted her entire lifetime.

At 87, Celeste married a 41-year-old opera singer. They sued her son to break a trust fund so they could have access to the cash. She lived to be 95.

by Anonymousreply 712/30/2020

It just sounds like Bette didn't get along with anyone, except Livvie and Livvie was faker than fake.

by Anonymousreply 812/30/2020

R3 this unnecessary scene....

Davis made 120 movies full of unnecessary scenes

by Anonymousreply 912/30/2020

R6 Yes!

R7 You are so right. Some of those East Coast debutantes who made their way to Hollywood had a rude awakening.

by Anonymousreply 1012/30/2020

R6 Cuntery has a better flow to it.

by Anonymousreply 1112/30/2020

Read “All About ‘All About Eve’ “ by Sam Staggs. Therein you will find good tea about Celeste and all the other players.

by Anonymousreply 1212/30/2020

I saw a few comments on social media by some eldergheys that worked for Celeste and the cuntery is CONFIRMED.

by Anonymousreply 1312/31/2020

She was an amateur.

by Anonymousreply 1412/31/2020

I agree, Bar. She doesn't even register on the Richter scale of cuntery.

by Anonymousreply 1512/31/2020

She was friendly with Jane Wyman, who gave her a role on Falcon Crest.

by Anonymousreply 1612/31/2020

She was the ORIGINAL Karen.

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by Anonymousreply 1712/31/2020

R6, I think it's generally spelled 'cuntery' except when Aretha sang about her own Grand Canyon and the album song listing had it as "My Cunt-ry 'Tis Of Thee".

by Anonymousreply 1812/31/2020

And people thought *I* was a cunt ! Trust me, that bitch Celeste definitely earned her rep. She made me look like fuckin Mother Teresa.

by Anonymousreply 1912/31/2020

Maybe Celeste should have just said "Good morning, Bette".

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by Anonymousreply 2012/31/2020

Bette feuded with everyone, regardless. Maureen Stapleton was disgusted by the way Bette treated Angela Lansbury when they all did a movie together. She was also awful to Lillian Gish on Whales of August.

And to think Bette wanted to star opposite Lucy in Mame. The woman who managed to reduce Crawford to a sobbing mess in her dressing room? They would have been wiping the blood off the walls of those sets every day.

by Anonymousreply 2112/31/2020

So....Celeste was a çunt?

by Anonymousreply 2212/31/2020

thanks for starting this thread. long overdue.

by Anonymousreply 2312/31/2020

Jealous, bitches?

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by Anonymousreply 2412/31/2020

[quote]And to think Bette wanted to star opposite Lucy in Mame. The woman who managed to reduce Crawford to a sobbing mess in her dressing room? They would have been wiping the blood off the walls of those sets every day.

Lucy would have sliced and diced Bette, blamed Gary for it, and kept on going.

by Anonymousreply 2512/31/2020

I met her a couple of times, had lunches with her. She was lovely to me.

by Anonymousreply 2612/31/2020

Qui etait cette cunt?

by Anonymousreply 2712/31/2020

"Maureen Stapleton was disgusted by the way Bette treated Angela Lansbury when they all did a movie together."

What movie was that?

by Anonymousreply 2812/31/2020

R21 are you thinking Death on the Nile? Maureen Stapleton wasn’t in that. Bette Davis was quoted as saying how much she enjoyed working with Angela Lansbury, perhaps the feeling wasn’t mutual?

by Anonymousreply 2912/31/2020

Angela speaks highly of Bette here

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by Anonymousreply 3012/31/2020

[quote]She was also awful to Lillian Gish on Whales of August.

Pardon me. Someone around since the time of Georges Méliès should know how to act. My God, the ice floe from Way Down East emoted more.

by Anonymousreply 3112/31/2020

Here's a fun article in Page 6 you might enjoy. Holm's & DiCaprio's paths cross in the Russian Tea Room, circa 1994. Neither have heard of the other. Both being cunts.

[quote] She asks: “What’s he do?” Leo is sitting right. Staring. I whisper: “He’s nominated for an Oscar.” “As what?” “Supporting Supporting Actor. For ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape.’ ” “Lord, I wouldn’t see that. Sounds like a pie-eating contest.”

[quote] Leo, still staring, wonders who’s this old bird. He asks who she is. Told, “Celeste Holm. Famous actress.” Silence. Nothing. Nada. Niente. Then I quietly offer: ‘All About Eve’ with Bette Davis, ‘Gentleman’s Agreement’ with Gregory Peck.” ... Celeste snaps: “Learn your industry’s history.” Leo: “I won’t lie to you. I never saw you, either.”

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by Anonymousreply 3212/31/2020

It's true. Never "meet" your favorite stars. I wish I hadn't read this thread.

I adore Holm as the Fairy Godmother in "Cinderella".

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by Anonymousreply 3312/31/2020

Well, regardless. She has her place in show biz history.

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by Anonymousreply 3412/31/2020

Stapleton, Davis, and Lansbury were all in the mini-series "Little Gloria ... Happy at Last".

by Anonymousreply 3512/31/2020

According to director Lindsay Anderson, one day while filming The Whales of August he said to Lillian Gish, "Miss Gish, you have just given me a perfect close-up." Bette Davis remarked: "She should. She invented 'em."

by Anonymousreply 3612/31/2020

Not much evidence of cuntery on this thread. What is Celeste supposed to have done?

by Anonymousreply 3712/31/2020

So sad when you’re a complete cunt but no one remembers who the hell you are

by Anonymousreply 3812/31/2020

[quote] It just sounds like Bette didn't get along with anyone,

I’m very suspicious of people who get along with other people.

by Anonymousreply 3912/31/2020

In Bette's defense her cuntery with Hayes and Gish happened at the end of her life when she was seriously ill, felt like complete shit and her daughter had deserted her. She was not pleasant to be around in her final years, but before that her disposition was better.

by Anonymousreply 4012/31/2020

She hit me in the head with a fondue pot, r37.

by Anonymousreply 4112/31/2020

Holmes behavior at the end of her life was sad. Bette was in pain and cranky at the end but she wasn’t conned or so narcissistic to believe a man in his early forties wanted a woman nearing 90.

It’s so delusional. It reminds me of our dear Olivia de Havilland saying that she should’ve won best actress for gone with the wind since many people preferred Melanie to Scarlet and they were practically Co-leads.

She admits she didn’t raise her children because it interfered with her career. I would say there was bad blood long before that piano player showed up.

by Anonymousreply 4212/31/2020

She kicked me in the cunt bone.

by Anonymousreply 4312/31/2020

She stepped in when Gertie died.

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by Anonymousreply 4412/31/2020

Celeste/MAME opted for pink!

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by Anonymousreply 4512/31/2020

[quote] According to director Lindsay Anderson, one day while filming The Whales of August he said to Lillian Gish, "Miss Gish, you have just given me a perfect close-up." Bette Davis remarked: "She should. She invented 'em."

Sounds more complimentary than cunty. Was it a way of saying Gish was old?

by Anonymousreply 4612/31/2020

She was a cunt who cain't say no.

by Anonymousreply 4712/31/2020

Maybe it was intended, Holmes' and Anne Baxter's characters (and portrayals) were so blah. Possibly, that was the ideal woman's personality at the time. Similar to Melanie in "Gone with the Wind." Blah & boring.

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by Anonymousreply 4812/31/2020

The cunty story about meeting Bette on the set the first day was never mentioned until Bette died. Nobody had a problem with Bette on that movie. As Anne Baxter (someone who would have been an obvious choice for Bette's rage but instead became fast friends) said, everyone kenw how lucky they were to be filming that amazing script and Bette and her leading man fell in love... it was a very happy set. So yes, Celeste was a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 4912/31/2020

I seem to remember seeing Bette saying something to apologize to Lillian Gish (who wasn't present) on The Tonight Show, I think.

by Anonymousreply 5012/31/2020

A crew member on one of her later TV movies, "Skyward", said Davis's fridge was well-stocked with Belle vodka and Bell's scotch and that she was either "gracious or terrifying", as many alcoholics are...

by Anonymousreply 5112/31/2020

At least Joan always remained a elegant and a lady.

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by Anonymousreply 5212/31/2020

[quote] At least Joan always remained a elegant and a lady.

Except when she was beating her kids and sucking strange cock in her foyer.

by Anonymousreply 5312/31/2020

This was posted on a DL thread (2012/R198):

I'm the guy who posted earlier and knew Maureen Stapleton. Like I said in an earlier post - Maureen knew Joan Crawford socially, and liked her. She never believed the rumors about Crawford regarding alleged child abuse, and told me me that she strongly believed that Christina Crawford was "doing it for the money."

She didn't know Bette Davis socially, but worked with her in a made for television film based on the life of Gloria Vanderbilt called "Little Gloria - Happy At Last." She said her experience with Davis was not pleasant. Maureen was close to Angela Lansbury, who also starred in the film, and she said that Davis was "mean - a real bitch" to Lansbury - which she was not happy about, since she really liked Lansbury. She was ready to pick a fight with Davis over her behavior - that's how upset she was about Davis's treatment of Lansbury. Lansbury stepped in though, and told Maureen to not let it bother her since Davis is "just that way - a bitch - and don't pay attention to her..." Something like that.

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by Anonymousreply 5412/31/2020

Maureen was a loudmouth drunk, so she has no room to talk. She was also a fucking nutjob- terrified of everything from airplanes to elevators. And an overrated actress who gave the same shanty irish performance in everything.

by Anonymousreply 5512/31/2020

Celeste manages to make that pink version of the Mame costume look matronly.

by Anonymousreply 5612/31/2020

[quote]A crew member on one of her later TV movies, "Skyward", said Davis's fridge was well-stocked with Belle vodka and Bell's scotch and that she was either "gracious or terrifying", as many alcoholics are...

I was not a crew member, I had a SPEAKING ROLE in that film!

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by Anonymousreply 5712/31/2020

But she sure could cut a rug (at 14:40), r55!

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by Anonymousreply 5812/31/2020

"Maureen was a loudmouth drunk, so she has no room to talk."

Maureen was not only a drunk and a drunken slob, but she was proud of her alcoholism and has no intention of ever stopping - HER words.

by Anonymousreply 5912/31/2020

Celeste wasn't a cunt!

Bette was the Cuntress of Cuntery! Never was a CUNT more cuntastic!

by Anonymousreply 6012/31/2020

Celeste was divine on the soap Loving opposite her real life husband Wesley Addy. She even got a daytime Emmy nomination. Where's the daytime nomination that Bette ever got?

by Anonymousreply 6112/31/2020

I have a real Emmy! Not that daytime crap. Fuck you!

by Anonymousreply 6212/31/2020

[quote] Celeste was divine on the soap Loving opposite her real life husband Wesley Addy.

I hated the cunt, too.

by Anonymousreply 6312/31/2020

The other All About Eve Celeste vs Bette story has not been mentioned. The one about the teapot that Celeste tells on the DVD audio commentary.

by Anonymousreply 6412/31/2020

She would have been perfectly cast as Lillian Farmer in Frances but knucklehead Graham Clifford chose Kim Stanley. Lillian Farmer was a health nut and slim but Stanley was much too fat to play her.

by Anonymousreply 6512/31/2020

There is a great story about a young woman approaching her at a party and asking her if she knew the apartment and where the powder room was..She replied "I am Celeste Holm" The person replied. "I am a great admirer of your work, Miss Holm, but you see I am pregnant and need to pee." Miss Holm just walked away. The host witnessing this ran over and tried to salvage the situation and called Celeste back over and introduced them. "Celeste, this is Mrs. so and so. Her husband might be backing your new play." The pregnant woman replied ."Probably not"

by Anonymousreply 6612/31/2020

Celeste had a very educated and "to the manor born" look and air about her, which a more working class looking woman like Bette probably resented.

by Anonymousreply 6712/31/2020

No Bette just didn't like anyone. Whether it was to the manor born or fake to the manor born or whatever. She was just a miserable cunt.

by Anonymousreply 6812/31/2020

Bette also knew Celeste didn't deserve the Oscar she won.

by Anonymousreply 6912/31/2020

So whom did Bette loathe most? Celeste, Crawford, Gish or Miriam Hopkins? Who else was on her shit list?

by Anonymousreply 7012/31/2020

Sorry to be cunty, but it's "to the manner born," comes from Hamlet.

by Anonymousreply 7112/31/2020

Wouldn't you be a cunt if you looked 50 through your 20's, 30's and 40's?

by Anonymousreply 7212/31/2020

During the filming of The Whales of August, director Lindsay Anderson was talking Gish through the filming of Gish's big close ups. Bette, who was on set, interrupted to tell him that Miss Gish didn't need direction on her close ups, that she had invented them. Neither Anderson nor Gish appreciated the interruption.

by Anonymousreply 7312/31/2020

I'm curious, does anyone know if Lillian Gish invented close ups?

by Anonymousreply 7412/31/2020

Gish's frequent collaborator and director D. W. Griffith didn't invent invent them but he was the first to use them effectively and extensively and so is often credited with having invented them.

by Anonymousreply 7512/31/2020

The only thing remember about Celeste Holm was some commercial or PSA she did in the 70s that ran on local nyc television. It’s telling that on her thread half the posts are about Bette, Joan & Lillian fucking Gish. Celeste is a big yawn.

by Anonymousreply 7612/31/2020

Celeste became very friendly with George Sanders. They were allies on the AAE set.

by Anonymousreply 7712/31/2020

[quote]So whom did Bette loathe most? Celeste, Crawford, Gish or Miriam Hopkins? Who else was on her shit list?

Faye Dunaway, Susan Hayward, Glenn Ford, Marilyn Monroe, Olivia Hussey, Helen Hayes, Oliver Reed, and Alec Guinness.

She didn't hate Katharine Hepburn, but admitted to being jealous of her. She told Tallullah Bankhead that she copied her style, to which Bankhead replied that she did and did it better than Davis.

by Anonymousreply 7812/31/2020

Girls of a feather flock together, r77.

by Anonymousreply 7912/31/2020

R74 - Lillian was the first real star of the first silent films that were feature length and made use of cinematic techniques that built the language of filmic storytelling that is largely still used today. And for her era she was a performer who was subtle and know how to use the power of the close up effectively.

by Anonymousreply 8012/31/2020

R74 - Lillian was the first real star of the first silent films that were feature length and made use of cinematic techniques that built the language of filmic storytelling that is largely still used today. And for her era she was a performer who was subtle and know how to use the power of the close up effectively.

by Anonymousreply 8112/31/2020

I saw her in The Irregular Verb to Love with Mr. Addy in Central City. Also in the cast, a certain Mr. Christopher Reeve.

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by Anonymousreply 8212/31/2020

At 82 posts, I still don’t see any examples of her actual cuntiness. I think maybe it is more of her manner and roles rather than any actual conduct. She was kind of an Mrs Howell type onscreen but not as likable.

by Anonymousreply 8312/31/2020

I also have a signed photo of Lillian Gish. Jealous, bitches?

by Anonymousreply 8412/31/2020

[quote]Celeste had a very educated and "to the manor born" look and air about her, which a more working class looking woman like Bette probably resented.

Bette Davis was not from a working class background. She was from an old New England family that was upper middle-class and she was educated in private schools.

by Anonymousreply 8512/31/2020

[quote] I also have a signed photo of Lillian Gish. Jealous, bitches?

No.

by Anonymousreply 8612/31/2020

So whom did Bette loathe most? Celeste, Crawford, Gish or Miriam Hopkins? Who else was on her shit list?

R70 Faye.

by Anonymousreply 8712/31/2020

She campaigned to play Ado Annie in the B'way revival of Oklahoma!.

In 1979.

She was 62 years old.

by Anonymousreply 8812/31/2020

R69 - re her Oscar. Gentlemen's Agreement is one of those preachy message films that Hollywood made for a while but I think Celeste is good in it. She is certainly better than the lead actress Dorothy McGuire whom I find sexless and dull dull dull. Celeste plays a likeable society woman who reveals her true feelings of being in love with Gregory Peck, knowing he wants Dorothy. And it helps that her character is not as prejudiced as Dorothy is revealed to be.

by Anonymousreply 8912/31/2020

[quote] So whom did Bette loathe most? Celeste, Crawford, Gish or Miriam Hopkins? Who else was on her shit list?

That husband she shoved down the stairs and died a couple of weeks later from a brain injury?

by Anonymousreply 9012/31/2020

r90 Davis's husband was a raging alcoholic and had several falls before the fatal one.

by Anonymousreply 9112/31/2020

But Davis never drank and never had drunken brawls with any of her other husbands?

by Anonymousreply 9212/31/2020

Bette was a drunken bitch. And I loved her. Hepburn was too, but so phony people only remember her as "real." Barf.

by Anonymousreply 9312/31/2020

The Tender Trap

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by Anonymousreply 9412/31/2020

[quote]But Davis never drank and never had drunken brawls with any of her other husbands?

Of course she was and of course she did. That doesn't mean she was responsible for her husband's death. He was walking down the street in Hollywood and collapsed.

by Anonymousreply 9512/31/2020

High Society

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by Anonymousreply 9612/31/2020

She was just a girl who couldn't say no.

But she could say "No, you cunt, no you asshole, NO, NO, NO! Get the fuck away from me!"

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by Anonymousreply 9712/31/2020

R75, Griffith is often credited as inventing the close-up with a shot of Pickford. But that is BS. Griffith and Pickford were tireless self-promoters, so they told the story of how they invented the close up and met with resistance. ("We're paying for the whole girl and your're only filming a part of her.")

by Anonymousreply 9812/31/2020

[quote]He was walking down the street in Hollywood and collapsed.

And the Coroner testified it was from a skull fracture suffered at least two weeks earlier. Davis testified tearfully at the inquest she had NO IDEA what could have caused it.

by Anonymousreply 9912/31/2020

From what I've read, they weren't even together when he had the previous fall.

by Anonymousreply 10012/31/2020

Agnes tried hard to get Celeste to repeat her role in the film of Oklahoma! but she was already considered too old by Dick and Oscar in 1955.

Gloria is very wonderful in it.

by Anonymousreply 10112/31/2020

Thanks R2...really interesting video

by Anonymousreply 10212/31/2020

Read more.

by Anonymousreply 10312/31/2020

Celeste was suffering from dementia when she was with that 41 year old guy. I saw them together and he pretty much had to respond for her she was so out of it.

by Anonymousreply 10412/31/2020

Too old to be convincing as a teenager after Gentlemen's Agreement and All About Eve?

How heartless!

by Anonymousreply 10512/31/2020

Leo doesn't sound cunty in that r32 anecdote at all. They weren't both being cunty.

by Anonymousreply 10612/31/2020

Honestly, Celeste!

by Anonymousreply 10712/31/2020

[quote] Too old to be convincing as a teenager after Gentlemen's Agreement and All About Eve?

Not all of us can be as fresh and dewy as the day our careers started!

by Anonymousreply 10812/31/2020

R73 here. I've reread the thread and I swear that half the posts before mine weren't there before I posted my comment about Davis, Gish, Anderson and the Whales in August close ups. It they had been, I wouldn't wouldn't have posted mine since the subject had already been mentioned.

I blame DL. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

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RF87 I recall Bette said the only actress she thought was a real bitch that she worked with was Faye Dunaway, who was very unprofessional and kept Bette waiting for hours when she was late, etc. A good story about Bette: she was the ingenue in George Cukor's stock company in Rochester, NY, which starred Laura Hope Crews (Aunt Pittypat in GWTW). When LHC was cast in The Man Who Came To Dinner, and their situations were reversed, apparently Bette was very kind and respectful (her scenes were cut so don't look for her in it).

by Anonymousreply 11112/31/2020

Who is Joan, r110?

by Anonymousreply 11212/31/2020

Another Davis-Holm story was that Bette and Gary Merrill convinced Celeste there was a wonderful shampoo called F. A. G. and apparently Celeste went around to drug stores asking for it.

by Anonymousreply 11312/31/2020

Turn in your gay card, r112.

by Anonymousreply 11412/31/2020

R24 No, I'm not jealous, I have a photo of Bette Davis signed to me.

by Anonymousreply 11512/31/2020

I don’t care about her cuntery. She gave terrific support in every movie she appeared in.

by Anonymousreply 11612/31/2020

Bette wasn't fond of Miriam, r111.

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by Anonymousreply 11712/31/2020

R117, that wasn't acting.

by Anonymousreply 11812/31/2020

Bette on Faye Dunaway

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by Anonymousreply 11912/31/2020

Well, have to tell ya, r115, that's one I regret not getting. I do have a Joan, however. Plus....I was an extra in The Disappearance of Aimee. I can attest to everything Bette said about Faye.

by Anonymousreply 12012/31/2020

My uncle was also an extra on Aimee, and he said Faye was horrid - shockingly so.

by Anonymousreply 12112/31/2020

I read that on the Aimee tv movie, a whole churchful of extras were sweltering in the heat because Faye was nowhere to be found, so Bette got up on the pulpit and sang "I've Written A Letter To Daddy" for them while they were all waiting.

by Anonymousreply 12212/31/2020

The Temple scene was shot in a Masonic Temple in Denver. It was sweltering hot and Faye took FOREVER to come out of her trailer, r122. And yes, Bette came out in pin curls and spoke to us and then sang Daddy. She was wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 12312/31/2020

Nevah.

by Anonymousreply 12412/31/2020

HRT wrote about how Celeste came in for the Dukakis role in "Steel Magnolias" (to meet, not to read) and Herbert Ross refused to consider her because she sat there and bitched about how bad the Oscars ceremony had treated her the night before and then trashed every director she had ever worked with. Herbert didn't want to be next on the list. His quote was "Life's too short for Celeste Holm". (That was the Oscar year young Leo did not know who she was when they met and she scolded him to learn his film history).

by Anonymousreply 12512/31/2020

Oh, oh! And we had to come up with our own costumes that were hopefully somewhat period. They probably had costumed SAG extras in the first couple of rows, but they wanted the Temple to be filled. I went for Bette, not the box lunch.

by Anonymousreply 12612/31/2020

Who's HRT?

by Anonymousreply 12712/31/2020

R122 That's why I posted the clip of Bette saying that.

by Anonymousreply 12812/31/2020

At about 17:45, Carol Kane talks about meeting and becoming friends with Bette Davis, I think around 1980.

Davis was completely uncunty to a much younger actress.

I think Celeste Holm had it coming.

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by Anonymousreply 12912/31/2020

OK, cue Misfit Girl and her tales about Marilyn and Clark.

by Anonymousreply 13012/31/2020

Kathy Bates once told me a story of Celeste auditioning for Dolores Claiborne and whining so much to Taylor Hackford, she lost the jrole to Judy Parfitt. Thank god!

by Anonymousreply 13112/31/2020

Judy Parfitt was fantastic in that film and should've won the Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 13212/31/2020

I read that Celeste campaigned for the lead in Norma Rae and the Cher role in Silkwood.

by Anonymousreply 13312/31/2020

[quote] HRT wrote about how Celeste came in for the Dukakis role in "Steel Magnolias" (to meet, not to read) and Herbert Ross refused to consider her because she sat there and bitched about how bad the Oscars ceremony had treated her the night before and then trashed every director she had ever worked with. Herbert didn't want to be next on the list. His quote was "Life's too short for Celeste Holm". (That was the Oscar year young Leo did not know who she was when they met and she scolded him to learn his film history).

No it wasn't. Steel Magnolias filmed right after the ceremony for the 1988 Oscars and released in late 1989. Leonardo DiCaprio wasn't nominated until early 1994.

by Anonymousreply 13412/31/2020

WTF is HRT??

by Anonymousreply 13512/31/2020

Celeste became nearly impossible to listen to later in life because something happened with her voice and it was pitched so high, every time she asked for another cup of coffee, every dog in the neighborhood would be in her front yard. And Joni Mitchell.

by Anonymousreply 13612/31/2020

Ya gotta be tough, baby. So what if she wasn't Miss Congeniality?

by Anonymousreply 13712/31/2020

The Herbert Ross Troll, FFS! Calm your tits, R135

by Anonymousreply 13812/31/2020

All of them bitches, including Anderson Cooper.

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by Anonymousreply 13912/31/2020

Getting back to the Bette killing her husband story I thought the version was that they had a shoving match on a train and he hit his head which caused the problem he would later die of. I think that's what she told Vincent Sherman who recalled the story.

by Anonymousreply 14012/31/2020

Ok, since we apparently have to pry every little bit out of you stupid bitches, who the fuck is the Herbert Ross Troll, FFS! We aren't all 1,000 years old, and haven't been here since you had to chisel on stone tablets to post.

by Anonymousreply 14112/31/2020

Is the husband Bette killed the same husband she named the Oscar for?

by Anonymousreply 14212/31/2020

Bette Davis liked Carol Kane because CK resembled Bette Davis, physically. CK's voice was all wrong, though (to play Davis).

I still think it's weird that Susan Sarandon didn't even try to get Davis's voice.

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[quote] Faye was nowhere to be found, so Bette got up on the pulpit and sang "I've Written A Letter To Daddy" for them while they were all waiting.

Ten times she sang it. TEN FUCKING TIMES.

by Anonymousreply 14412/31/2020

Celeste once again performing the song she introduced:

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by Anonymousreply 14512/31/2020

The one and only woman I ever slept with was also an extra in that DOA temple scene. She told me that Bette/Faye story thirty years ago.

by Anonymousreply 14601/01/2021

Bette auditioned for Magnolia in the original production of Showboat. She had to sleep with Oscar Hammerstein to get an audition. When she saw the naked statue she said it had Oscar's ass. If she had slept with Ziegfeld it would have been called the Florenzzzz.

by Anonymousreply 14701/01/2021

I had the same thing happen to me yesterday r109, I thought I made a keen observation on a thread and when it reloaded 25 comments showed up, all making the observation hours before me!

by Anonymousreply 14801/01/2021

[quote]I still don’t see any examples of her actual cuntiness.

Refusing to tell a pregnant woman where the powder room is surely counts as cuntiness.

by Anonymousreply 14901/01/2021

Bette's husband Arthur Farnsworth died after they had been seen fighting in a club one night, which started rumors. I know it makes a good story but I doubt that Bette was the cause of his death.

by Anonymousreply 15001/01/2021

I thought Bette pushed Farney down some steps in their farmhouse, Butternut, in New Hampshire.

Another bit of trivia, Celeste lost the role of Milo Roberts, suntan oil heiress, to Nina Foch, in An American In Paris. CH was an Oscar winner and had just been nominated again for All About Eve, vs Nina, who wasn't especially well known, but everyone agreed Nina was better.

by Anonymousreply 15101/01/2021

Bette said Farnsworth had fallen down the stairs at Butternut two months earlier when he went to answer a phone call.

[quote]A rumor persisted that his wife, in a rage, had pushed him down the stairs. It probably isn't true. Farnsworth had other head injuries and collapses that were symptomatic of a neurological problem that eventually caused his untimely death.

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by Anonymousreply 15201/01/2021

Damn so much of these posts are 100% made up. Some are funny, but totally false.

by Anonymousreply 15301/01/2021

[quote]It's true. Never "meet" your favorite stars. I wish I hadn't read this thread

If Thelma Ritter was a “Grade A Cunt” keep it to yourselves because I don’t want to know.

by Anonymousreply 15401/01/2021

Don’t fret R154, Thelma Ritter was Jesus with a Brooklyn accent.

by Anonymousreply 15501/01/2021

She used to come stay with Helen Hayes at her home Pretty Penny in Nyack, I met them bot several times. She could not have been nicer. Two lovely ladies.

by Anonymousreply 15601/01/2021

The story on Twitter is that Celeste was a grade A cunt to everyone when she appeared at a Princess Grace tribute years ago (after Grace's death). Jimmy Stewart was pleasant but apparently Celeste was a total cunt to everyone, and looked at the people riding the elevator with her as if they stank. How dare they ride with HER!

From that thread: "I was *Celeste’s* usher and was to escort her to the stage when her tribute came. I walked to her aisle seat as rehearsed, spotlight firmly on us, when she flailed her arms, shoved me aside and ran down to the stage while I was still in the spotlight. What a bitch."

by Anonymousreply 15701/01/2021

[quote] It's true. Never "meet" your favorite stars.

One of the artists I love, and who is a very big part of my life, is Joni Mitchell.

But I *already* know from interviews that she is, let's say, not the warmest person in the world. Meeting her would wreck me. I'd also probably slap that old cunt in the face. So yes, I have no desire to meet her. Never witness how the sausages are made.

by Anonymousreply 15801/01/2021

R156, I am not sure if this is a joke, but Helen Hayes seems to have been universally despised (in NYC at least). Read memoirs of the period and you can see the bitter feelings toward her even when masked with period propriety.

by Anonymousreply 15901/01/2021

Helen Hayes was unpleasant? I didn't know that. She seemed like such a nice old lady.

by Anonymousreply 16001/01/2021

The whole "First Lady of American Theater" thing really rubbed her peers the wrong way. And she started playing grande dame at a young age around people who knew her too well.

by Anonymousreply 16101/01/2021

How in the world did they think of Gloria Grahame for the film of Oklahoma?

by Anonymousreply 16201/01/2021

Listen, this thread is fine. But there will absolutely be no dragging of the great Gloria Grahame in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 16301/01/2021

Who?

by Anonymousreply 16401/01/2021

How dare you R164.

by Anonymousreply 16501/01/2021

[quote]she flailed her arms, shoved me aside and ran down to the stage while I was still in the spotlight.

No cartwheels? She always did cartwheels at the Golden Globes. Before the show, she'd be at the Beverly Hilton tumbling up and down the red carpet in her rehearsal sweats. Then about about fifteen minutes before the press arrived, she'd go into her RV parked in the Robinson's May parking lot and change into her outfit.

by Anonymousreply 16601/01/2021

What was her first name, r146?

by Anonymousreply 16701/01/2021

[quote] I had the same thing happen to me yesterday [R109], I thought I made a keen observation on a thread and when it reloaded 25 comments showed up, all making the observation hours before me!

Same here, too. A couple weeks ago I posted about the death of someone in the Theatre Gossip thread, shocked no one had beaten me to it, and then it refreshed and there had been a two hour long discussion on it.

by Anonymousreply 16801/01/2021

This happens all the time on DL. It's happened to me, too. Like I respond to the comment above me without quoting it and by the time it goes online there's six comments between mine and it, and mine sounds like I'm the lonely ninety-something DL schizophrenic.

by Anonymousreply 16901/01/2021

Celeste Holm on Fresh Air:

So I - we were all sitting there, and I said: Did you know that the man who made the wonderful glass teapot, Pyrex, when he found out they were using it to make martinis, he stopped making them?

And Bette drank more than she should, I thought. And so she looked at me and she said: I don't know how I've lived this long without knowing that.

(lol)

by Anonymousreply 17001/14/2021

More! This is a great thread. Thanks OP!

by Anonymousreply 17101/14/2021

I met Celeste Holm at a backer’s audition for a musical that never got produced. She told us she was going to recreate her role of Ado Annie in a revival of Oklahoma. In fact, the producers offered her the role of Aunt Eller, and she turned it down. She was in her early 70s.

by Anonymousreply 17201/14/2021

I forgot until just now I saw her in a play, Habeas Corpus. I was a little kid, it was the first play I went to, my parents took me, I have the program, and she was in it though I don't remember her. I remember Rachel Roberts (though I had no idea who she was, then) because she was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 17301/14/2021

It's a shame Celeste never played Aunt Eller in an OKLAHOMA revival on Broadway. What a casting coup and she could have been brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 17401/14/2021

R174 How? She was totally wrong for it.

by Anonymousreply 17501/14/2021
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