Condoms

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HIV has affected gays physically and psychologically.

I complete understand the backlash against condoms in the naughts and am thankful for PrEP and the understanding that U=U.

Sex is a natural part of our lives and being constantly reminded that it will kill us is a doozy

I know at least two guys who felt bottoming was the essence of their being and got HIV, not on purpose exactly, but because they knew it would be inevitable.

They seem to be living normal lives now (thanks, science) but people made choices.

Condoms, Rose, condoms!

I'm 46. I've never fucked without one either.

We need a complete evaluation of how HIV has affected the gay community—and it’s not just those who got it.

As a bottom, it never felt any different with or without a condom so have always demanded one—but thankfully now with PrEP, the spontaneity and the intimacy is so much stronger—the sex flows so much better

R5, I fucked wearing condoms too until I got into a relationship. But then he cheated and it freaked me out. I don’t think I’ll ever fuck without a condom again

I would like for my tops to wear condoms, but so few do nowadays that I felt somewhat forced to start PrEP.

I don’t get that guy who will only be sucked if they’re wearing a condom. Do they still exist? Rubber tastes nasty

For me it's basic hygiene. I don't buy for a minute it feels worlds better without a condom and I don't care. You wanna fuck, rubber up.

Same as r7 here. Only relaxed my condoms-always rule in a LTR, then found out he'd cheated. This was back in 2004 or so, pre-PrEP. Dumped him, and went back to condoms 100% of the time. There's other nasty diseases out there from anal sex anyhow. Plus I like longer sessions, and condoms keep me going longer (especially once I discovered the larger ones).

PrEP is a fantastic achievement, but it doesn’t protect against other STDs.

When I was with my long term boyfriend we almost always used condoms simply for the fact it was "easier/cleaner". Pre-lubed/easy to take off/wash, etc.

Do you boys ever think about anything other than satisfying your base sexual needs? Now I'm not one to judge, but I have to say that it comes off as an addiction.

Not just the gays! The fear of God was placed in me as I saw MANY of my close friends die of AIDS, including my best male friend since childhood. His bf died first, and he died a few years later.

Condoms are like wearing a seatbelt, as far as I’m concerned. And I’ve never had an STI or unwanted, unplanned pregnancy, either.

So there’

Seriously though, everyone on NYC was vanishing back them. I don’t blame your friend for being extra careful.

This scares me. People Prep is not a cure for HIV and you can STILL GET IT. Wear the condom.

I’m of a different generation (millennial [31]} and have also never barebacked. I’m with R10- I never got its appeal and can’t fathom it being worth the risk. Sure, my refusal to bb has cost me some hookups with insanely hot guys, but at the end of the day, health is more important. PreP isn’t magic, and there are STDs other than HIV.

Condoms are so unsexy; a huge turn off. My dick deflates when I see one.

get over it, r18.

PrEP doesn't protect against other STIs.

If you BB regularly and have a lot of partners you will almost certainly end up with HPV and one or both types of Herpes after a while. The thing about PrEP is--did they refine it after the lawsuit? Do you still run the chance of it slowly killing your kidneys?

There's also the usual gon/syph/chlam, which are developing strains that are harder and harder to cure, resisting the antibiotics.

And does "weekend PrEP" really work in any way other than an "better than nothing" way?

[quote]Now I'm not one to judge

Why bother saying that when it clearly isn't true?

Judging is underrated. I'm not being facetious. It's like not "judging" someone for mask use. These are contagious diseases you're spreading. I know a guy who got throat cancer from HPV.

I wonder what HPV means.

HPV=HIV plus venereal disease. It's a medical term.

R24 and R25

HPV = human papillomavirus

[quote] Sex is a natural part of our lives and being constantly reminded that it will kill us is a doozy

No it’s not unless you’re a whore hun. You don’t need sex to survive personally.

HPV = more commonly known as genital warts, there are many different strains, and some of them ultimately lead to cancers in different areas of the body, i.e. anal/rectal cancers, throat cancers, penile cancers. If you're having that sex where the man go up into the other man, particularly if you're on the receiving end, you should be getting anal pap smears every so often.

Condoms help quite a bit but do not totally eliminate risk.

Especially now that you can get the larger British/European ones online, there's really no excuse. One brand goes all the way up to 69mm diameter which, with ~15% stretch, should accommodate anyone.

It is still bonkers though that the FDA requires an opening of 57mm maximum, LAID FLAT, which is only 36mm rounded

Skyn Large is the best No odor, great sensation

[Quote] And does "weekend PrEP" really work in any way other than an "better than nothing" way?

Apparently weekend PrEP seems to work just as well as taking PrEP daily

Condoms? Get out of the kiddie pool. Take a dip in the danger zone.

[quote]Apparently weekend PrEP seems to work just as well as taking PrEP daily

It's called PrEP-on-demand, and it's legal and accepted by health authorities in many other first-world countries. What do you think the hold-up is in the US?

“Natural sex”, OP says as he puts his dick in another guy’s ass.

R34 you do realize anal sex was not invented at Stonewall, right?

[Quote] It's called PrEP-on-demand, and it's legal and accepted by health authorities in many other first-world countries. What do you think the hold-up is in the US?

There isn’t a hold up in the US, it’s accepted by health authorities here as well.

Condoms are so 2005. I'm a very active power bottom, and I haven't asked my tops to wear them in years. I'm on PrEP, and haven't had any STIs. It's so liberating to fuck as nature intended.

R37 is a proper whore darling... I’m going to faint

[quote] He says he’s so used to it and fear of HIV is so ingrained, that he never wonders about it.

You know what else he never wonders about? How dying of AIDS feels!

I’m. DDF

This thread types old. Anyone *actually* getting fresh hot dick on the regular switched over to bb w/PrEP ages ago. I fuck once or twice a week usually - and no matter which city I'm in, the vast majority of guys on the apps (who aren't on the DL from their wives) are happily, safely fucking bare, either through PrEP or TasP. Took me a while to get over my initial fear of bb at first, but R37 nailed it - it is BLISS to fuck without a balloon on your dick. Feels so wrong and yet so right, lol!

And aren’t other STDs generally on the rise, esp among young gays?

[QUOTE] “Natural sex”, OP says as he puts his dick in another guy’s ass.

One man sticking his cock into another man’s ass IS the most natural thing in the world and has been going on since the dawn of time. You sound very tired.

Oh, and that’s not where the comma goes in that sentence. Where did you receive your education?

Much respect for those who keep it wrapped. If you lived through AIDS you’d understand. Much like wearing a mask now. I think many will wear masks for years to come. Especially in winter.

R44 types "old bitty"

Man, I dislike the gay on here who think "old" is the smartest insult they can hurl. Especially when they don't know that it's "biddy" and not "bitty."

As long as they’re Magnums it’s all good and he better fill out those babies right!

Do SKYN Large count? 😘 I prefer the non-latex, but they're a little snug.

I was at a bathhouse last year and this guy put a condom on me before he gave me a blowjob. I was going to say to him - I only like to get sucked with a condom but then I said to myself - Let's try something different. So I did.

Ugh Like animals. The fact you have those complaining about having to put on a condom and wanting all the pleasures proves how humans are no different than animals. I hope the minutes of pleasure is worth the cost.

I was going to say to the guy who put a condom on me- I only like to get sucked WITHOUT a condom. My post above was a typo.

[QUOTE] I hope the minutes of pleasure is worth the cost.

There is no cost; we’re all on PrEP now. Do keep up.

[quote] Do you boys ever think about anything other than satisfying your base sexual needs? Now I'm not one to judge, but I have to say that it comes off as an addiction.

What other topics would be discussed on a thread entitled “Condoms”?

I say perform public castrations to those caught having sex During this pandemic!

[quote] There is no cost; we’re all on PrEP now.

r52, you need to keep up: [italic]Although rates of syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia have increased in recent years, the numbers are “nowhere near” the historical peaks that were seen for the rates of syphilis or gonorrhea in the early to mid 1970s in the U.S., according to Christopher B. Hurt, MD, associate professor of medicine and director of the North Carolina HIV Training & Education Center and principal site investigator for the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program Part D at the University of North Carolina Infectious Diseases Clinic. The steep decline in the rates of gonorrhea and primary and secondary syphilis in the 1980s and 1990s were due, in large part, to action in the gay community, and then in the general public, to “normalize” condom use before effective HIV treatments were available, Hurt said.[/italic]

I also wonder/worry about the long-term cost of PreP on kidneys and other organs. Seems like a lot to subject the system to for so many years just to avoid condoms

And another thing (sorry for ranting) but has this year taught us [italic]nothing[/italic] about the potential of a virus or its variant wreaking havoc?

They say Truvada has the potential for long-term liver/kidney issues, but Descovy doesn't. The replacement co-molecule doesn't have those side effects.

No one is even taking Truvada anymore.

People taking PrEP have their livers and kidneys checked every three months.

My doctor has said that mine are in excellent shape and I’ve been on PrEP since 2013, the last year having switched to Descovy.

Good news, r60. Although long-term effects are TBD.

all condoms seem too tight girth-wise

I wouldn’t do anyone who was positive but “undetectable “. No device or pill is going to change that!

I always use condoms for safety and to avoid the dreaded Shit Dick.

R62 are you seriously saying 69mm diameter (2 3/4 in) is too tight?

If you're gonna love it, you'd better glove it.

r65 I haven't measured the diameter of the condoms, I just know they feel constricting around me. But still wear one always for fucking.

Just because this thread seems like the place to share this. While checking out at my local Duane Reade last night, a handsome, lanky guy, mid-20s, got in line behind me, apparently a friend of the checkout crew. They all started joking with him about what he was buying, so I turned to look—and he's holding the biggest box (36?) of Magnum condoms. "He expecting a big night," they shouted. It took all my self-control not to more fully check him out myself.

Celibacy is vastly underrated.

R68- I thought you were going to tell us that this good looking lanky guy was checking you out or started flirting with you.

Condoms are for preventing *pregnancy*. They don't belong anywhere near an asshole. #RawIsLaw Get on PrEP you cheap 'MARY!' bitches...

You can avoid warts with the HPV vaccine

PrEP is so important a step that it should go over the counter. We can stop HIV altogether this way

There's really not much of a difference in feeling. Wear one ffs.

r71 the only asshole who doesn't get it is YOU

I barely wore condoms even before PrEP. My motto used to be "if you ask me to bag it, see ya later, faggot". But now that's mute, because no one even requests to wear condoms anymore. And if they do, I wind up giggling. These days with PrEP there's absolutely no reason not to go raw. I'm vers, leaning toward bottom. My ass gets a ton of play. Yes I am a whore but whatevs. Even with the pandemic, my hookup count is nearly on par with 2019, and they've all been bareback.

For R67

It’s so weird and strange and funny hearing men talk about this. For a woman it is never a choice and never will be, until enforced male birth control becomes mainstream.

Thankfully I’m a goldstar and I’ve had a safe fortunate life so I’ve never had to think about it, but if I went anywhere near a guy sexually by choice (ugh, perish the thought) he would have to double-wrap or nothing. I don’t want a disease, much less a damn kid!

As for munching, well, a dam is fiddly, gloves make you feel like a serial killer, wrapping a dildo looks so silly, and lesbians tend to lower rates of STD transmission. All the same, that’s no excuse and we should be more vigilant. I wonder if there’s a way to make protection more of a thing in the lesbian community.

r76 it seems like you can fit more nonsense in a post than you can fit cocks in your gaping ass. Thanks for likely spreading syphilis, gonorrhea, and COVID. And for being why they hate us.

Plus it's "moot" not "mute" you frigging ignoramus.

thanks r77. Ever since I've started using SKYN Large, I've really come to enjoy non-latex better. The sensation and lack of latex smell outweighs a little snugness. A little lube inside is a good trick btw for everything to feel better.

You guys who still use condoms must be hooking up with fat old gay men, because nobody, and I mean nobody, hot and under 30 wears condoms.

I’m in my 60s and have never had sex without a condom. Looking back, I’m glad I was extra cautious.

I feel sorry for you, r83. You've missed out on so much pleasure. Condoms are nothing compared to raw.

I've slipped a few times but otherwise I only fuck with CONDOMS. I'm a top.

r83 I'm 64 and I've never worn a condom. And I was a whore. (A religion should start surrounding the miracle of me never catching any disease whatsoever.)

Like r86, I've also been a moistly condomless pig bottom whore my entire life and am miraculously still here to tell the tale. The few times my tops wore condoms, the sensation just wasn't the same as raw. Yeah I guess my sex life has been a little Russian roulette-ish lol, but no harm done.

I'm a big old slut

r87 I've only bottomed once. I understand how the feeling is different for the top, but is it really that different for the bottom?