Wizard of Oz questions

Gale, wasn’t it?

Gale... One is never quite sure if it was a dream or real

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2. Ovaltine.

I thought Gail was her middle name?

No, her middle name was Maydeson

The flying monkeys makes me think she was into Angel Dust.

R5 source?

The flying monkeys makes me think they were Republican

No, Gale was definitely her last name. She was conked in the head during the tornado, according to her aunt, and that is the reason given for her imagining Oz. And the Scarecrow, etc. in her “dream” represented her family members. Although she is seemingly convinced she really went somewhere else.

also, did the 3 farm hired hands gangbang Dorothy after she fell of the pig pen fence?

@r7, My ass

R10 Only after Miss Gulch violated her with the handle of her whip.

I’m watching it right now on TNT.

wait a minute....wait a minute....it was a DREAM??

@r10, Yes, the pig pen is very symbolic of the kinky shit they were into

Were they hired hands? Thought they were relatives for some reason.

It was based on a book.

They were nasty farm workers hired to toil on the farm while lusting over teenaged Dorothy

@r16, No, they were hired hands who passed Dorothy around like she was a sex doll

Toto was a damned good lover

Toto too?

Yes, it was a dream. Dreams happen in movies and TV shows (I should know).

She was hooked on Chinese tobacco, aka opium, represented by the poppies conjured by the Wicked Witch of the West.

😂😂😂 You all are awful and also fucking hilarious.

Sometimes I see a thread and almost skip it because I think I don’t care about the subject, but often I am rewarded with unexpected laughter. Thank you, guys! You’ve dispelled my maudlin Xmas mood. 🤣🤣🤣

So, didn't Dorothy have the same problem at the end of the movie? Wasn't Miss Gulch still going to have Toto put down?

A dream? Yeah, sure, that's what the movie wants you to think, but the real story is that 9 months later Dorothy gives birth to a flying monkey made of tin stuffed with straw. That little slut got around

@r25, Auntie Em becomes Miss Gulch's lesbian lover to save Toto and they all lived happily ever after

R25, I think while Dorothy was out, the hired hands mutilated, murdered and dismembered Miss Gulch. They left her bicycle near Professor Marvel’s wagon and since he was basically a drunk, unknown drifter, he was arrested, convicted and executed for the shocking crime.

They cut some backstory from the film. Auntie Em and Elvira Gulch roomed together at a girl's school, and munched one another's clams for years. Elvira is jealous that Em is into Uncle Henry's thick, uncut cock,so she takes it out on Dorothy.

Dorothy’s last name was Petrillo. She was on Mescaline. Auntie Em was a street name for mescaline in the 1930s.

Was Miss Gulch killed when The Witch Melted and Toto saved ?

The farm hands were all friends of Dorothy.

... and don't EVEN get me started on those kinky little midgets. The Lollipop Guild started that whole "Free Candy" in a white van shit

In the book she has no last name, and Oz and her experiences are real. The last name is "Gale" in the 1939 & 1985 films. In the 1939 film, she was injured, and almost died in the tornado, and Oz & her experiences were all a dream/product of injury.

^^ I'll bet you're fun at parties, killjoy

I always confuse Toto and Tootie.

^^ A common mistake

[quote] Was Miss Gulch killed when The Witch Melted

Miss Gulch was the Witch's sister from the East, the one who was killed from the house. Remember when the house was up in the tornado and Dorothy saw Miss Gulch bicycle by and turn into the witch? Look closely and you can see that witch wearing the ruby slippers -- which only the Witch of the East wore.

Here’s an important question. What did Professor Marvel use for a bathroom?

R39, Danny Thomas’s glass coffee table.

We know the hired hands were white and there were "little people" in it. Were there any black people in the 1939 movie?

Hers the alternate ending OP...it answers your question

It was all the Tin Mans dreams OP ^^^

What about trans people R41?

Toto caught a big whiff of Miss Gulch’s cunt then ran away.

[quote]Wasn't Miss Gulch still going to have Toto put down?

Tornado got her and her little bike too.

Oh don’t it feel like paradise?

LSD trip

Easy enough to check. When she woke up, was she wearing the Ruby Slippers? I don’t think so.

When she woke up she found that Debbie Reynolds had the fucking slippers.

Dorothy's last name isn't anywhere in "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" (1900) by L. Frank Baum, but it first appears in the 1902 hit stage musical show based on the novel, for which Baum wrote the book. This bit of dialogue ensues when she first meets the Scarecrow (keep in mind that Baum loved terrible puns):

DOROTHY: "My name is Dorothy Gale. I'm one of the Kansas Gales."

SCARECROW: "Well, that accounts for your breezy manner."

Dorothy doesn't appear in the second Oz book, "The Marvelous Land of Oz" (1904), but she does in the third book, "Ozma of Oz" (1907), where she is reunited with the Scarecrow, the Tin Woodman, and the Cowardly Lion, and where her last name is first mentioned in the books and established as canonical.

In all the books her experiences in Oz are real. She moves to Oz permanently (with Uncle Henry and Aunt Em) in the sixth book, "The Emerald City of Oz" (1910).

Isn't there a dead body hanging in the background in one of the forest scenes?

You do know the Blair Witch is based on the Wizard of Oz, right?

Heather's snotty tears weren't original.

No, that's an urban legend, r52. In one scene in the Forest (when Dorothy and the Scarecrow first meet the Tin Man), you can see a strange blue bird walking around in the far background, but that was a crane MGM had brought in for the film and had dyed blue. People have mistaken the large bird for a hanging corpse.

Nobody who ever lived was as stupid and ignorant as Dorothy.

r55, in the original book, she's only six years old. They had to age her way up for the movie so they could get a great singer for the part. (Originally they wanted Shirley Temple, but her studio wouldn't lend her out.)

Dorothy may not have been on drugs. Instead, consider that she wanted Miss Gulch to die, and then she saw Miss Gulch actually killed by the tornado... so Dorothy Gale entered a dissociative fugue state in order to escape her feelings of subconscious guilt, as if she had willed the death of Miss Gulch into existence. Oz is a trip through Dorothy's subconscious mind, and once Dorothy has "earned" forgiveness by destroying the evil plaguing Oz, she gives herself permission to go home again, to lead a guilt-free life.

If Dorothy goes to live in Oz permanently with her Aunt and Uncle, I suspect that the Aunt and Uncle were already dead, and Oz was Dorothy's go-to coping mechanism.

When Dorothy tried to blow the Scarecrow, did she get a mouthful of straw, or did he have a stick or something down there for her to jaw on?

And when the Tin Man woke her with surprise anal after the poppy sleep, was he shoving a shiny steel dildo in her fartbox, or did he somehow have his original man meat still attached to his steampunk innards?

Poppies (opium) put them all to sleep and snow (cocaine) work them right up.

Auntie Em makes that obscure reference to a contraption that Hunk (Ray Bolger) has set up in the barn, which I'm now convinced was a meth lab.

Actually Maggie Horton had the ruby slippers.

[quote]Dorothy Gale entered a dissociative fugue state in order to escape her feelings of subconscious guilt

Nothing that a little ECT can't fix!

You can certainly tell r58 is gay!

Lamour, and fermented hog manure.

[quote] You can certainly tell [R58] is gay!

Not that there’s anything wrong about that.

Tornado. Dorothy’s last name was Tornado.

Dorothy Tornado.

R59 nailed it. I just found this thread and was going to post the same. Ever since college and this movie came on - we all laughed at the obvious symbolism. Can't say that I know anything about heroin (and don't way to), but "poppies" will make them sleep? "Snow" to wake them up?? LOL Couldn't be more obvious - at least to anyone who has ever snorted a line or two at a party.

How clever you all must be to see a field of poppies putting creatures to sleep and think “opiates.” That’s what’s so marvelous about symbolism. Layer upon layer of subtle meaning.

Next I suppose you’re going to tell me that the Yellow Brick Road and the Emerald City are also symbols. Do go on.

[quote]They left her bicycle near Professor Marvel’s wagon and since he was basically a drunk, unknown drifter, he was arrested, convicted and executed for the shocking crime.

Wrong! He foresaw the approach of the constabulary in the same, genuine, magic, authentic crystal used by the priests of Isis and Osiris in the days of the pharaohs of Egypt, in which Cleopatra first saw the approach of Julius Caesar and Mark Antony, and, hitching up his trusty horse Sylvester, got out of Kansas ahead of the law.

I heard that Almira Gulch left Kansas, changed her name to Cora, and began hawking coffee. That nasty bite on her butt when Toto bit her before jumping out made her decide she's had enough. On her way out, she shared a train with Mae West and W.C. Fields.

It was well known in Kansas that the Tin Man and the Scarecrow were in a same sex relationship. The Scarecrow, unsurprisingly, had issues with ED.