Is Traci Lords the only porn star to make it as a legit actor?

Sasha Grey had a few mainstream roles.

Didn’t Marilyn make a “blue movie” with a plug in vibrator which was shown at stag parties for decades?

Didn’t Stallone do crew for pornos, but stepped in for a scene or two?

I think she found Jesus and became a house wife.

star of Sylvester Stallone star of "Party at Kitty and Stud's" (1970).

Stallone did do a softcore porn film called "The Party at Miss Kitty and Stud's."

To a smaller degree, pornstar/singer Dennis Parker (Wade Nichols) had a role on the daytime soap "The Edge Of Night" for several years until his death in the Mid 80s. I have no idea how that was possible without causing a public scandal?

Wilford Brimley had an extensive porn career before hitting it big with "The Thing."

Sonny Landham , co star in Predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger . Prior films such as The Private Afternoons of Pamela Mann and Slippery When Wet

I don't think any real porn star has "made it" as a "legit actor" although some of them have found work outside of porn. People like Traci Lords only get cast for their novelty star value, not due to any acting talent because NO porn star has ever had any real acting talent.

David Taylor gay porn name, Greg Duke regular actor name

Greg Duke was born on August 6, 1978 in San Diego, California, USA. He is known for his work on American Sniper (2014), The Brides of Sodom (2013) and Ray Donovan (2013).

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In the early 1980s, after her career faltered, actress Angelique Pettyjohn, who played Shahna, started making softcore and then hardcore porn films. She stopped that when she realized she could make more money appearing at sci-fi conventions after the popularity of the Star Trek franchise grew due to the release of the films. As part of her appearances, she posed for and sold two versions of a poster as her Shahna character: One in her silver costume and one where she is totally nude.

I believe Belle Poitrine had some naughty photos in her past.

"NO porn star has ever had any real acting talent."

Not true, R10. A lot of those early porn actors like Jamie Gillis, John Leslie, Veronica Hart, etc were legitimate stage actors with real acting chops before their adult film careers! Porn was just something they fell into for various reasons.

In fact, a lot of those old adult films were released at the time with all of the nudity/sex cut out, and were quite charming.

Sylvia Kristel, who famously played "Emmanuelle" in the softcore porn classic of the same name, starred as a stewardess in "Airport '79: The Concorde."

SYLVIA KRISTEL: (seductively) "You pilots are such... [italic]men![italic]"

ARTHUR KENNEDY: "Hey, they don't call it a 'cockpit' for nothing!"

Well Traci is basically the only person in this thread anyone has heard of so...good luck next time, Blake Mitchell.

Don't forget about Brent C.

Dustin from Real World Las Vegas

R18 I've worked on his "films". He's better off forgotten.

What about the big boned goofy one with the chicklet teeth named Brad something or other. I think there was a vampire movie?

R21 he's mostly working behind the scenes these days, making Z list horror movies.

An actress in Bollywood has become a big celebrity over there used to do porn.

Stormy Daniels (a big name and fan favorite for many porn fans during her heyday in the 2000's and now world famous due to Trump) was in Knocked UP and The 40-Year-Old Virgin. Ginger Lynn (one of the top porn women of 80's) made appearances in mainstream films that you would recognize including Young Guns 2 and The Devils Rejects. Nina Hartley (another top billed starlet of the 80's) was given a very visible role in Boogie Nights. The infamous Ron Jeremy was not surprisingly chosen for a ton of parts in many indie flicks although I don't recognize any of them. Simon Rex (of MTV fame) was in the Scary Movie sequels. Veronica Hart (one of the most famous Golden Age ladies), like Nina, was in Boogie Nights and also Magnolia.

Marilyn Chambers made a couple of non-X rated films.

Rabid (1977) directed by David Cronenberg & Angel fo Heat (1983).

Lucille Lesueur, bitch burned the tapes....

Teri Weigel was a teen model, legitimate actress and Playboy Playmate who appeared in several low-budget flicks, music videos & episodes of 'Married With Children' before her adult film career.

Who was that escorted one with Margaret Whiting, I remember seeing him in a gay play in the 90s?

What about James Deen in that Lindsey Lohan Hollywood movie?

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Georgina Spelvin (best known for The Devil in Miss Jones) had a memorable small role in Police Academy (1984). She made a reappearance in Police Academy 3 as well.

Sibel Kekili has appeared in Game of Thrones as Shae and also on some good movies but they are mostly in Turkish and German. She has done a lot of porn before all this, and she is especially popular in Turkey as a porn star.

I act better, no?

"A lot of those early porn actors like Jamie Gillis, John Leslie, Veronica Hart, etc were legitimate stage actors with real acting chops before their adult film careers! Porn was just something they fell into for various reasons."

Yeah, they were SO talented. That's why they made porn their profession, because they had so much acting talent. What bullshit! No REAL actor, no actor with TALENT, ends up sucking and fucking for a living. And all this crap about Sylvester Stallone being a "porn star." He made ONE dirty movie; he obviously didn't make it his profession because he had more to him than that.

R34, you sound very sheltered and quite simple. Performing sex work DOES NOT mean that one has no other talents! It simply means that one has found a way to make money & achieve fame of some sort quickly.

Classic Adult Films (pre VHS/Internet) were actual productions with a story-line, lots of dialogue and good amount of acting involved. I stand by my statement that Jamie Gillis, John Leslie & Veronica Hart were all decent actors with stage experience, that could have made it in legitimate film/TV/stage, had they had the right breaks.

Actors were compared to prostitutes in the early days of stage. It was considered very lowly of a woman to do theatre. That's why they had young boys portray female characters.

Traci Lords is a fascinating case. She got away with doing so much porn underage and only one of her movies is legally available.

Traci Lords was lucky to have the mainstream career that she had. Her sheer determination to make it far outweighed any talent she had/has. The novelty of the "victimized" underage porn star got her foot the door and she ran with it.

I think the stigma around having done porn is ending. Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton made a career out of that. Plus all those actresses who got "leaked" yet still had film offers afterwards. And now we're seeing former teen stars doing OnlyFans and still getting work. Cardi B was as stripper and prostitute and got a record deal.

And apart from Traci Lords. You had Sasha Grey and James Deen do some non-porn work. Blake Mitchell and Sean Ford seem to be convinced they can do it too.

Traci was smart to turn of legal age, open her own production company, make a few movies, and then tell the authorities that she was underage in all the other porn she made for other studios. She made a shit ton of money and then got out of the business. She's a pretty good actress, too. She was in an indie horror comedy called Excision that I really liked and she was wonderful in it.

Ginger Lynn's also proven herself as being more than just a body and was funny in the Vice Academy movies and still shows up in small roles in lot of low budget movies. She has some comedic chops.

With Only Fans and the fact that just about everyone under 35 has their own nudes floating out there from various dating apps and DMs, there might start to be a lot less controversy about nudity and sex. I see people on Instagram who show people their ass or pose topless and they have normal, respectable jobs and no one seems to shame them or get them fired or anything of that sort. Things might be changing and I say it's high time it does. This country's weird puritanical ideas of sex and nudity have been dragging us down for ages.

OP, you're forgetting about Ethel Barrymore. Miss Barrymore paved the way for later porn stars who achieved success in the legitimate theatre, and her efforts should be honored.

It's weird how actors and models can sell an image of sexuality and be alright. But if they have done any work actually having sex it's an issue. Halle Berry shows her boobs in a movie and does ton of sex scenes and it's "artistic" but if she uploaded a video of herself stripping and having sex it's wrong?

The US has a weird puritanical view of sex. We sexualize everything and everyone but shame sex at the same time.

Helen Lawson did a number of “blue” scenes before she broke on Broadway. She can count her lucky stars no one had a kinetoscope to view them by that point.

[quote]Georgina Spelvin (best known for The Devil in Miss Jones) had a memorable small role in Police Academy (1984). She made a reappearance in Police Academy 3 as well.

Georgina Spelvin (Shelley Graham) actually started out on Broadway in the '50s. She danced in [italic]Cabaret, Guys and Dolls,[/italic] and [italic]Sweet Charity[/italic] and was Shirley MacLaine's understudy in [italic]The Pajama Game.[/italic]

Would “Traci” even have had a film career if it wasn’t for John Waters and his penchant for stunt casting?

Traci was cast in this movie before Cry-Baby. She actually took acting classes and went to auditions and the director for this liked her and cast her immediately.

She melted those cops with her lipstick in Tommyknockers

She was funny in her guest spot on [italic]Roseanne[/italic] as the chick who applied to work at The Lunch Box.

So to answer OPs question...yes.

[quote] Would “Traci” even have had a film career if it wasn’t for John Waters and his penchant for stunt casting?

Yep. She appeared on Wiseguy with Ken Waugh first. Had an affair with him for a while too.

[quote] Georgina Spelvin (Shelley Graham) actually started out on Broadway in the '50s.

Sounds like the career path of Dolly Sharp ( Helen Woods) discussed at some length on earlier threads. Cast in numerous Broadway hits, Vegas shows, and co starring with Debbie Reynolds. Then Deep Throat. Interesting lady.

I think there's been talk about a Helen Wood biopic.

Back in our day, the porn stars were really STARS!!

They were Method actors who'd studied with Strassberg and could light up a scene.

Not like these Only Fans Millennios!

Fergie singing Madonna.

Taylor/Duke has always fascinated me R11

He played D1 lacrosse at Syracuse, was in the Marines... and then wound up blowing Jake Cruise on camera for money.... only to return to a semiregular movie career. (Though DLers are convinced he was in American Sniper to service B Cooper.)

I wonder what the back story was

Wrong thread

James Dean

R57 ?

To follow up on R55, this truly warrants an "Ewwwww David!"

Can we just back up here please?

I would hardly call Traci Lords a legit actor.

I don't know why this stuff bothers me, but it does.

R55 "He played D1 lacrosse at Syracuse, was in the Marines... and then wound up blowing Jake Cruise on camera for money.... only to return to a semiregular movie career. (Though DLers are convinced he was in American Sniper to service B Cooper.)"

He didn't blow Jake Cruise. The thought of that image is disgusting. Cruise blew him. And the story about B Cooper is also the reverse. He wasn't there to "service" Cooper, he was there so Cooper could service him.

It totally blows the fantasy otherwise. It's also more believable.

[quote] He didn't blow Jake Cruise. The thought of that image is disgusting. Cruise blew him

Watch the video I posted at R59 and get back to me on that one R61

You can just fast-forward to the 00:45 mark R61

Duke basically just played bit parts in the mainstream work he's landed and bigger parts in z-grade horror films that probably most die hard horror fans haven't even seen.

Johnny Hazzard has landed some legit work here and there. He actually got quite a bit good reviews by critics for his acting performance in Tiger Orange.

Sasha Grey also wrote a terrible "book" that was like a bad retelling of EYES WIDE SHUT.

"I stand by my statement that Jamie Gillis, John Leslie & Veronica Hart were all decent actors with stage experience, that could have made it in legitimate film/TV/stage, had they had the right breaks."

If they had had the talent to be successful actors they would have gone that route. But being only good for fucking and sucking they decided to make porn their life's work.

Traci was great when she was cast: John Waters, Roseanne, and Amy Sherman Palladino made good use of her acting talent, and she does have some.

John Alderman was an actor who appeared in guest roles on dozens of TV shows from Gunsmoke in the 50s through Hunter in the 80s. He started doing porn in the late 60s and was able to make a career a career doing both mainstream and hardcore roles. His IMDB is pretty interesting to see how interlaced his porn and regular parts were over twenty years before he died at age.52.

That list at R12 is funny as shit! David Duchovny a porn star? Well, he's done some racy roles (and he had a fuck scene in "The Rapture") but by no stretch of the imagination is he a "porn star." Neither is Sylvester Stallone, who did one ill-advised blue movie, but that was it. And Cameron Diaz? Jackie Chan? They were PORN STARS? Yeah, right! And Ron Jeremy is a "movie star?" HAHA! That is REALLY stretching it.

Talent doesn't necessarily guarantee you a successful career as an actor. There are lots of actors working regularly that are moderately talented at best. Luck, connections and determination also play a big part.

R69 He never actually performed in any hardcore sex on screen, though.

No use trying to introduce R67 to common sense, R71. She's completely convinced herself that people only perform the dreaded........SEX when they have no talent & can't do anything else.

Chloe Sevigny, Mark Rylance, James Ransone, Eric Balfour, Kerry Fox have all done hardcore scenes.

The late Spalding Gray made some hard core porn flicks in the 70’s, though they are pretty hard to locate today. One was called “Farmer’s Daughters” which was directed by and co-starred Zebedy Colt. Colt, a former legit child actor called Edward Earle Marsh, was gay but somehow ended up in straight porn.

Then there was “Malo” discussed here a year or so ago. Malo was a classically trained New York stage actor named Arnaldo Santana. To make cash he did three gay porn flicks for InHand with Jack Wrangler as a sexy muscle power bottom. Then went on to supporting roles in two Al Pacino movies: “Scarface” and “Cruising”.

Zebedy Colt also did scores of musical theatre work as an adult, even when he was doing porn and afterwards. He even made it to Broadway briefly a couple times. He was using the name Edward Earle for that. He sure directed and starred in some odd porn movies. The Farmers Daughter is so bad, it's actually funny. He apparently wasn't

The Dolly Sharp story is fascinating. Someone should make a movie on her life

Zebedy apparently wasn't ashamed of his porn work and even kept his porn ephemera in same scrapbook with his mainstream work and would show it to friends that came over to visit him.

Someone was working on a documentary about Dolly Sharp but who knows that status of it now.

Actors were compared to prostitutes in the early days of stage. It was considered very lowly of a woman to do theatre. That's why they had young boys portray female characters.

R36 All actors are prostitutes like First Lady

r16 That was George Kennedy, big difference, and kinda the main guy of the Airport anthology.

Sibel Kekili has been mentioned, she e.g. played in German and international classic Gegen die Wand as female lead, I guess it is synchronized in English, Fatih Akin's most important work and art. Peter Bond was one of the two hosts of German Wheel of Fortune, I think he had fled from the GDR, had a pretty good career as host and other celebrity venues, and e.g. played a gay guy in German gay sitcom Bewegte Männer, which was made after the German movie Hit Der Bewegte Mann, gay story. Magdelene St Michaels was a stage actress and a bit movie and TV before becoming adult actress. That mom from That 70s Show, who had been on Charlie's Angels, had a pretty big softcore career in between, was a main competitor of Shannon Tweed. I guess most adult actresses who landed in the California porn scene had come to Hollywood with the dreams of becoming actresses or commercial models.

Kinda ridiculous that so many actresses have worked as prostitutes and strippers, yet being in adult movies is so much more of a hindrance also for actresses, when the former are much more degrading. Maitland Ward has become a kinda busy porn star. Sunny Lane was an Olympian ice skater in her youth, was en route to.

James Dean apparently has nudes. It's known he slept with men for money and for roles.

Ahem.

[quote]A lot of those early porn actors like Jamie Gillis, John Leslie, Veronica Hart, etc were legitimate stage actors with real acting chops before their adult film careers! Porn was just something they fell into for various reasons. In fact, a lot of those old adult films were released at the time with all of the nudity/sex cut out, and were quite charming.

Chuck Vincent filmed a lot of those really great porn crossovers. Like "In Love", and "Bordello: House of the Rising Sun". Both are technically hardcore movies, both with excellent production values and well-written characters. Beth Broderick stars in both In Love and Bordello in a non-sexual role. The structure of the films are more like European art movies, a world away from video porn. He also moved over to non-porn B-movies in the mid 80s like "Preppies" and "Hollywood Hot Tubs", which are actually better quality than they sound.

R81 Tanya Roberts didn’t do soft core! More like Bond girl and Sheena Queen of the Jungle, Beastmaster and more

I guess Tanya did do Skinemax.

"James Dean apparently has nudes. It's known he slept with men for money and for roles."

There have never been any verified "nudes" of James Dean. And it's never been verified that he "slept with men for money and roles", either. Are you saying he was equal to a porn star? That's SO stupid.

R87 I'm under the impression those nude beefcakes were sold for a profit. Obviously he wasn't porn star because that wasn't a thing back then. But posing nude for magazines and photos is still doing pornographic work. And they aren't verified but look enough like him. And many people who knew James Dean said he was involved with men, many of which were affluent men in the industry.

Here's a great example of the sort of well produced Classic Adult Films I discussed at R15, R35. "Wanda Whips Wall Street" (starring Veronica Hart & Jamie Gilis) from 1982 is hilarious and (minus the sex scenes) just as entertaining as any of the mainstream comedies of the day.

R84, I'm not familiar with Chuck Vincent's "In Love" but I enjoyed his "Bon Appétit" & "MisBehavin'".

[quote]There have never been any verified "nudes" of James Dean.

The photo at R88 has been around a very, very long time. I'm talking about Pre-Photoshop. The original photo print went up for auction years ago. However, the story the story surrounding it has multiple variations. We will never know if it's him, we just know it's someone at the least that looks like him. (But it's not photoshopped or anything of the sort.) I personally am split on it.

[quote]And it's never been verified that he "slept with men for money and roles", either.

I don't think that it has been verified that he slept with men for money and roles. However, there have been many accounts from men and women that slept with him otherwise. Elizabeth Taylor flat out called him gay on video (3:15) years ago and she had done so previously. A few of his former costars and friends that actually knew him said he was into men or into men and women.

[quote]Are you saying he was equal to a porn star? That's SO stupid.

I'm not the person you're talking to but I don't think he was equal to a porn star at all. His primary job wasn't having sex.

There was that "Tony Sinatra" guy who was on some soap for several years.

Veronica Hart did straight non-porn B horror movies for Chuck Vincent as Jane Hamilton. Hart also acted Off-Broadway and had done small parts in movies and television.

Then there is Jeff Griggs who after a stint as “Tony Sinatra” in gay porn got fired from a soap and has done all sorts of television and theater.

Jeff Stryker did some non-porn movies and television - mostly in Europe. “Zombie 4: After Death” he is the leading man. He is billed as Chuck Peyton his real name.

Gregg Araki likes to put gay porn stars in bit roles like Rex Chandler in “Doom Generation”.

Then there is Francois Sagat and his arty shit and his blink-and-you-miss-it cameo in “Saw 6”.

Colby Keller has had cameo appearances on non-porn TV shows.

I remember Jeff Griggs as Jude St Clair on Days of Our Lives. He is also a painter, and famous for the 9/11 memorial portrait of George W. Bush that he presented at the White House.

Jeff as Jude.

Tons of actors have worked as strippers and hookers on the way up or down in their careers. The thing with porn is that most of those people are so damaged that they literally get used up in that industry. Have severe addictions etc. It's no kind of life really.

Jeff Griggs is a total Trumper.

R85 I saw a film starring a 'Tanya Roberts' from the early 80's. It was a bizarre film called The Story of K. It was just continual shots of a woman (Tanya Roberts) loosely tied up in ropes having pegs attached to her body, then removed, then attached again, then removed.

I doubt it was the same Tanya Roberts though.

R51 You can't really blame Dolly Sharp for running. The makers of Deep Throat had both the mafia and the CIA circling, there was blood in the water due to it becoming the most financially lucrative film of all time. Not the kind of success she'd once longed for. Dolly looked bad in Deep Throat but she was still better looking than her co-star LInda Lovelace.

Linda had to practically sell her soul for the small amount of fame she experienced after Deep Throat. Her comeback movie "Linda Lovelace for President" was both a catastrophe and bizarrely prophetic.

I own this thread.

R99 He did a Club 1821 jackoff video and ended up becoming an MTV VJ and starring in 3 Scary Movies and the first season of What I Like About You. His porn past didn't seem to haunt him but I guess because the target demo for what he was doing was teens and college kids so they didn't care. Jenny Mccarthy and Carmen Electra were on MTV too and they were Playmates. Carmen even tried to do music with Prince of all people backing her.

Also Pam Anderson and Jane Seymour posed nude and had decent film careers. Jane played the lead in the super wholesome vaguely Christian show Dr Quinn

Aunt Zelda did softcore porn. She and Hilda were considered AILFs back in the day.

LOL @ R100

There is a huge difference between making a jack off video and posing nude for Playboy.

Especially when the jack off video is aimed at gay men.

Francois Sagat in Saw VI

R102 Yes and especially the homophobia double standard. I'm sure even Pam and Carmen could have gotten away with fingering themselves on video and been fine because straight men find them hot. Traci's film career was because of horny straight men and also gay men who liked her sluttiness. Simon is an exception but only because nobody knew until much later.

Vanessa Williams also got a film and music career even after photos surfaced of her ass getting eaten by a woman. But she was beautiful and sexy and actually had talent.

I thought Traci did an excellent job in Eastsiders

Tracy in GG.

R100 Wasn’t Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman about the triumph of science and knowledge over religion and tradition on the frontier setting? I don’t remember it being a veiled religious right show like Little House?

I dont buy that everyone who is promiscuous or is a sex worker is fucked up. There really exist people who have no shame about their sexuality and see it as a skill/talent to profit from. In some ancient cultures prostitutes were highly revered. Its this puritanical notion about sex and control over women's bodies that influences our perception that a woman has to be damaged to be sexually adventurous and engaged in sex work

Traci never seemed to be able to let go and look 'natural' on screen. It worked when she was playing campy, vampy characters like in Crybaby and some of her TV guest spots, but made her look awkward most of the other times. The recent podcast about her (Once Upon A Time… In The Valley) had a film critic that mentioned her similar affectations in her on-screen performances.

I've heard she was very good in the movie Excision, but I've never caught that one yet.

Didn't Sam Ritter get a little bit more work after going back to being Stephen Geoffreys?

Not great work, but... work.

R110 It took a while, but yeah he did get some low-budget mainstream work in more recent years.

R100, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE for me between a person simply posing nude, as apposed to someone performing in hardcore porn with partners! If everyone who posed nude before fame were considered a "pornstar", than Marilyn Monroe & even Lucille Ball (see attachment) were porn starlets before they made it big!

Also, Carmen Electra tried to do music and worked with Prince BEFORE getting famous and posing for Playboy. I actually liked her song 'Everybody Get On Up' at the time it was released. It got a little air play on MTV, etc. I was a young pre-teen at the time it was released and remember having a conversation with my sister about it. Ironically we liked Carmen's rapping a lot, but felt she was done in Prince's lackluster production. The musical track he gave her to work with didn't sound like anything that was popular at that time.

Carmen was no Vanity!

Prince had so many untalented protégés. He thought with his dick when it came to that or maybe he just wanted a female vessel for his latest sounds.

It's so funny how Britney can have a borderline orgy in Slave 4 U, Beyoncé can pretend to go down on Jay-Z in the Deja Vu music video or how Miley Cyrus can wear a top of fake naked boobs and a dildo but you can't do actual sex on camera without shame.

[quote]A lot of those early porn actors like Jamie Gillis, John Leslie, Veronica Hart, etc were legitimate stage actors with real acting chops before their adult film careers! Porn was just something they fell into for various reasons.

Andrea True earned a music degree from Peabody College (now part of Vanderbilt University) and had a cabaret act in New York before she started doing porn and subsequently hit it big with "More, More, More."

It's true that not everyone that does porn suffered sexual or the aftereffects of horrific emotional damage. The percentage is exactly equivalent to the percentage of strippers funding a law school education.

Melanija Knavs gave a pretty unremarkable performance in the role of FLOTUS. Not every pornie can transition successfully - some, like her, are just devoid of any convincing human emotions or charisma.

Thank you, R116. OP asked specifically about acting but you've reminded me that Andrea True probably (for a brief period) had the most successful post-porn career of any adult star.

Her first album was a masterpiece! She also had some great singles on her second project. Her rare 3rd album (only released in Europe) was a good, surprisingly socially-conscious collection of rock.

Wow. Not one of you cunts mentioned Joe Dallesandro? Datalounge is slipping...

Joe did have a pretty good acting career despite being completely wooden. His porn films are hot too.

I agree R109. I thought she was terrible in Gilmore Girls. Her posturing and speaking mannerisms were awful. She did have a fairly interesting Celebrity Ghost Story though.

What about Ryan Idol and Jeff Stryker and Matthew Rush and Sylvester Stallone?

I heard Alissa Czisny has also made porn videos. Only with those old enough to be her daddy.

There's an excellent podcast series on Traci Lords' life and career. Definitely worth a listen.

I remember when she was on Roseanne and she called out Bev for being a bitch because she never good sex! 😂

Traci is active on Twitter. She seems very intelligent, is vehemently anti-Trump (which makes me like her a lot), and is good about replying to tweets from her followers.

R7 Wade Nichols was actually quite a success story. Someone should make a movie of his life.

Was gay, started in gay porn, moved into straight porn as a "straight for pay" performer. Was actually a very good actor, managed to land a recurring role in daytime TV drama, and recorded an album in the 70s that produced two dance floor hits, "Like an Eagle" and "New York by Night."

Traci was best in Excision. Maybe because the role was so far removed from the sexpot roles she usually plays. I always liked her, but never thought much of her as an actress, but that performance made me sit up and think she might have more in her than we initially thought. She's funny, pathetic, and heartbreaking all at once in that movie. That's no easy feat and she really pulled it off. I recommend the film. It's pretty disturbing, but does have a sense of humor.

Betty White age 21.

R130 Please tell me you're not implying Betty White's nudes are equivalent to Traci Lords' porn.

R130, I'm not buying. That image looks fake. As if the head's been PhotoShopped.

R132 Betty did pose nude for pictures when she was younger. She's acknowledged it.

Wow, R133. I had no idea! This is a punch in the gut. Like finding your sweet little grandmother's old porn loops.

Doing her bit to keep up the morale of the troops

Nice 135 Nice muff.

"Betty did pose nude for pictures when she was younger. She's acknowledged it."

So fucking what? What's she doing in a thread about cunts who are on film fucking and sucking?

What about porn stars with famous children? The British porn actor Ben Dover's son is Tyger Drew-Honey, whose done quite a lot of well known British tv.

Thora Birch's parents were pornographers.

I always considered her recurring role on Melrose Place to be the pinnacle of Traci's bonafide acting career. The show was at its peak (season 3) and was hugely popular among young viewers. Melrose sort of embodied "must see TV" at that time. I doubt that she was ever seen on a screen by a bigger audience. That said, her acting was terrible and she comes off as a very cold, evil, creepy individual in basically everything that I have ever watched her doing (which was the only element that she brought to her MP role that actually worked). Even on Celebrity Wife Swap, she was genuinely CREEPY IMO.

[quote]Who was that escorted one with Margaret Whiting, I remember seeing him in a gay play in the 90s?

Jack Wrangler

The seductress of Steubenville...,

R27, is that George Clooney?

Here's a fun interview with Naomi Campbell & Cindy Crawford catching up and talking about old times. Traci Lords is mentioned briefly at around 20 / 21 minutes in, even though the girls can't remember her last name. Naomi remembers appearing in a Thierry Mugler fashion show with her, that took place the day before George Michaels' 'Freedom' video shoot. They refer to her as a "porno star" and "John Enos' ex". LOL

Up until a few minutes ago I had no idea who John Enos was. Fuck he was hot! Traci had good taste. They made a beautiful couple.

More Traci & John Enos

I've heard rumours that G. did appear in some super 8mm porn shorts in the early 1970s but I'd never heard of all those allegations against Harvey before they were public.

[quote] [R27], is that George Clooney?

Yes.

[quote] Up until a few minutes ago I had no idea who John Enos was. Fuck he was hot!

Really? Where have you been? He’s been in the business for years. Started off as a model in the 80s and has been acting in film and TV for years. He’s also a good friend of Mickey Rourke, and yes, he’s VERY hot.

I met Traci twice - once at a book signing and again a few years ago at a convention. The book signing was for her autobiography Underneath It All, a VERY good read where she delves into her turbulent childhood, her porn career and subsequent legit career as an actress and a recording artist, her romantic relationships and more. She even goes into detail about her years living with Enos. She’s very nice in person.

John Enos is very active on IG. A total guido who LOVES his little ankle biter dogs, who are hilarious btw.

I remember liking Traci’s techno song “Control.” It was used in some of the trailers for Showgirls and hit #2 on the dance charts. John Waters was even in the Bond-inspired video.

"I always considered her recurring role on Melrose Place to be the pinnacle of Traci's bonafide acting career. "

"Bonafide?" That's pretty funny. She's a novelty act. She gets hired to attract viewers who think it's delicious to see the porn girl doing something other than sucking cock and getting her pussy pounded.

R140 In that photo she looks like someone you'd expect to see in a cult. Wait. Wasn't that her storyline on Melrose Place? She lured Sydney into a cult or something?

There's some gay movie with a five dollar budget on Amazon Prime right now that "stars" Traci and she looks like absolute shit. Something about steam.

Stallone did a softcore low budget movie he had no hardcore scenes. Sasha grey and James Deen were supposed to be the new “mainstream crossovers” but it never really happened and Deen went back to porn and grey has mostly faded.

Most of the ones named were either just a slight a step above bit players or extras. Posing nude isn’t the same thing as fucking on film.

Sasha Gary is dead behind the eyes ..she is a no talent

As I recall Traci Lord incited a lot of rage when it came out that she did porn when she was underage. She lied about her age, therefore her movies were technically child porn. A lot of people got in serious trouble because of her. She was truly a cunt for that. She must have REALLY wanted to do porn. I guess she wanted the money., so she lied about her age to get into the business. What a cunt.

I don't recall anybody actually getting in much trouble over Tracy's porn career. Some money was lost in unsalable merchandise but I don't remember nobody who filmed or performed with her went to jail even with the explicit evidence of the crimes. Who would have looked at her and thought she wasn't what she said she was?

Of course that defense never works for ordinary men charged with a comparable crime.

Damn, those are some ugly tits. Those nipples are monstrous.

I think the only person that served jail time was a guy was a distributor that was caught selling her tapes after it was revealed she was underage,

Still many others lived in fear of serious jail time for months and paid out big bucks on lawyers. Ginger Lynn said one director that shot a lot of Traci's movies had a nervous breakdown and had to institutionalized for a while.

[quote] I don't remember nobody

That's what happens when you don't proofread.

[quote] I don't remember nobody

That's what happens when you don't proofread.

John Leslie actually did have some acting talent in his scenes, besides being handsome and looking good naked.

Traci Lords reminds me of the case of that underage boy who whored himself and other teens through an amateur porn site he ran. A journalist discovered his videos and wrote an expose. He made a deal with the feds to name the pedos he was working with and had them arrested and became a spokesperson for the danger of online predators. Like Traci Lords he played the victim card but willingly lied about his age for a long time and kept procuring other underage boys for his website even after he turned 18.

It's Franklin Mint.

Excellent podcast about the whole scandal and lies she gets caught in. Traci is clever, has always wanted to control the narrative. But she’s stupid in doing so, because she put the lives of hundreds of people in jeopardy.

Some caps of John Enos' naked butt on a related thread...

Hedy Lamarr ran around naked in her first film. I guess it wasn't exactly "porn", but it was probably seen that way in the US at the time.

R168 There's a difference between being nude on film and sucking cock and getting your pussy stuffed on film.

Sean Paul Lockhart tried to be the male Traci Lords and branched into acting but it didn't last long. Even had a similar issue with claiming to be underage in his first couple of films though the production company Cobra claimed he brought them proof of his birth year being 1985 not 1986. So we don't know what to believe in regards to that.

[quote]Traci Lords reminds me of the case of that underage boy who whored himself and other teens through an amateur porn site he ran. A journalist discovered his videos and wrote an expose. He made a deal with the feds to name the pedos he was working with and had them arrested and became a spokesperson for the danger of online predators. Like Traci Lords he played the victim card but willingly lied about his age for a long time and kept procuring other underage boys for his website even after he turned 18.

Justin Berry? Not unsurprisingly, he met a tragic end.

"Justin passed away on August 23, 2018 at the age of 32 in Mexico. Justin's cause of death was being murdered."

The problem with Traci Lords, is Traci’s own story about her years in porn. Claiming her coke addiction started when the man named Jim South, signed her to his porn modeling agency. She lied. Every single person interviewed who had South as a manager called her out as a liar, for the very fact that if he sent drugged out models to clients and they couldn’t perform? He was out money and fees owed to him. She says she can’t recall most of that time due to a cocaine addiction, which I don’t believe happened until her final few months before the story came out she was underage. The podcast “Once Upon A Time In the Valley” about the whole scandal, plays audio footage of her during that era, and she’s obviously not coked out. She’s discussing business plans for her own production company, why her films outsell everyone else, and what it takes to do the job she’s in. She’s as cool as a cucumber and doesn’t appear strung out at all. Traci forever wants to control the narrative of what happened, and that’s not possible. Hundreds of people and dozens of companies were affected by her dishonesty, and she seems unable to understand that even though she had a clean slate. All of her old films considered contraband (except for one film she owned the rights to that was legal, and she made a lot of money off of selling it) she nearly destroyed the heterosexual porn world. She had an affect on the lives of other people, of course they deserve to have their story told, and she contradicts herself every time. Her own sister even spoke out to a newspaper calling her sister Traci a liar, when her book was published. The industry was absolutely blindsided. The aftermath of what happened, is the EXACT reason why they never would have entertained the idea of shooting someone underage. What saved the industry was that she had a federally issued passport, and that proved she had also fucked over the feds, and when that came to light, the harassment of the industry ceased and was over because they had been fooled as well.

All Traci Lords needs to ever do, is admit she was a brilliant business woman who fucked over an entire industry, and GOT AWAY WITH IT. Clean slate, no taxes owed, no jail time. Clever, cunning and smart. But her own “recollection” is self serving and dishonest. Again, that podcast plays audio of a very intelligent woman before the bust. And she’s not coked up.

[quote]R16 Sylvia Kristel, who famously played "Emmanuelle" in the softcore porn classic of the same name, starred as a stewardess in "Airport '79: The Concorde."

Yes. She made a number of legit films. They often had erotic themes, but they were “real” movies.

R173 Sylvia Kristel was never a porn star. Her films were erotic, but not pornographic.

R171 I've never heard of this guy, but now I'm fascinated by his whole story. Looking online, I can find nothing about his death other than what's posted here.

I wonder if he's actually in the witness protection program these days.

I met Traci once and, while she was pleasant, I couldn't help but think there was a manipulative snake behind those eyes. She fascinates me.