Hiring an escort

I did it once about 10 years ago when I was on vacation in Florida. I was looking online and saw some escort ads. One was a picture of an incredibly hot Italian guy. So I got the nerve up and hired him.

Very disappointing. I was under no illusion that this arrangement was anything more than a business transaction for him, but he didn't even make an effort to pretend it was anything else, either. He came in, asked for the money, I gave it to him, he got undressed and started jerking off and said, "What do you wanna do?" He was very cold. I'm pretty sure he was a straight guy trying to make a buck.

Anyway, his whole attitude was off putting and a boner killer for me. I told him I wasn't feeling comfortable and said he could keep the money, but that I didn't want to continue. He said, "whatever," put his clothes on, and walked out.

I could have just picked a bad apple as far as escorts go, but I wouldn't do it again.

Read all about it.

Well here's a topic we dont discuss every freaking week!

Word to the wise: Make sure they accept Diner’s Club. That screens out the riffraff.

I just returned from Brazil where certain saunas feature hot men for hire. Since 45 minutes with one is the equivalent of approx. $20 USD, it was fun to sample the wares. But where the going rate is $250/hour for decent quality guys here in the US or $150 for a great massage with potentially a happy ending, the cost here for me isn't worth shooting my daily wad.

[quote] Well here's a topic we dont discuss every freaking week!

I know there have been threads about it before, missy, but I couldn't find them in the horribly broken search function.

Anyway, I'm looking for a little more than just "he had the biggest dick ever!" I'm curious about the motivation and what the experience was like, if the buyer, so to speak, felt exhilaration or guilt or just was happy to have gotten off, etc.

The key thing, like finding a trainer or therapist or housekeeper, etc is finding someone who is a good fit for you. I've hired several. All were hot. Some I'd never hire again, some I'd max out my credit cards on if I were more impulsive.

Have done it a few times over the past 25 years or so. Mostly for saving time. Never had a bad experience. One in LA was sweet, sexy, and actually came twice. Best was the famous porn star, Casey Donovan, who was purchased as a gift. He was very nice, efficient, affectionate. He stayed afterwards a bit to watch a TV show he wanted to see. It was some Live from the Kennedy Center thing and he had been in the audience with a DC political bigwig. Didn't say who. He borrowed a book he never returned (big surprise)! Wish I recall what book it was.

As a former escort, chemistry is the key difference between a good experience and an unforgettable one. A good escort should be able to fake it enough that you feel like you had, at the very least, an enjoyable experience. Having a regular escort that you like and continue to hire is really where you can have some sort of continuity in your experiences. Sex to me is always better when you know the person, but anon sex does get a lot of people off.

Read the reviews but also look for patterns in the reviews. I can tell the reviews are fake if the writing style seems similar or if the same expressions or buzz words are used in multiple reviews. My suggestion in getting your feet wet with escorts is to start out with escorts that are rent masseurs. Start out with a relaxing massage and then decide if you want to go to further, you can feel if there is any chemistry. Book a 90 min so you have more options. As an escort, I would start with a massage, that maybe add some extras around the 45 minute mark if I felt it would be hot for the client and I could deliver the upcharge. If there is no chemistry, then at least you will have a massage and a happy ending, maybe a blowjob if you have a nice dick, even if you are not attractive. The pricing on a rent masseur is also 30% less than if you saw the same person's ad on rent men. You also get more dabblers in the masseur realm and they don't feel the pressure to perform as much as a "get down to business, let's fuck" escort. If the guy is hot sometimes I might have played around after the massage just for my own enjoyment. For an escort, regulars are what really provide both a mutually satisfying experience and is where the escort will make the bulk of his money if he is smart. One offs are more risky and can have a higher flake factor.

While Brazillian men can be especially alluring because they are hot, masculine, and usually have huge cocks but it seems like overall they are the least reliable, but I'm sure others will say they have had great experiences. I would say the same about black escorts. Daddy's reviews is like the DL of escort reviews. This is where you will get the full review, a rundown on detail of the experience, and genuine, vetted reviews of your city's top escorts.

Have fun!

There are escorts who will be more affectionate but you need to look at reviews, not just picking one because he was the hottest. Not surprised that ended up with a straight guy just trying to get through it.

To r1 of course.

This is true, R10. I provided the highly affectionate, BF experience. This is a skill you either have or don't. I like more sensual, affectionate sex in my personal life with a lot of foreplay and that was what my niche was with my clients. I'm was not the escort that could just fuck on command the moment a client walked into the room, but that is also a very special skill that not everyone has. Everyone is wired differently so you want to find the person that has the same ideas.

Thanks, R9. That was very interesting to read.

R9 - thank you for your perspective!

The massage experiences are too stressful and annoying. You never know if they are strictly legit and how much extra etc.

I just hire the real thing. The trick is to hire the escorts in the middle range. That is where I’ve had the best luck. Not the guys with 50 reviews and 10 videos under their belt and not the ratchet guys who look drudged up.

There is usually at least one clean cut discreet type of college or young professional. These guys don’t so drugs and they usually just need some extra cash. They can hold a conversation and are clean and safe. Usually less expensive than the stars and worth the modest cost around $200 or less and they don’t rush off because they don’t have a zillion clients.

R5. Where is Brazil? What sauna? Abrigado.

[quote] Casey Donovan, who was purchased as a gift.

Oh, my!

I had my mind expanded about escorts when I was about 30 years old. A few years back, a very sexy guy I knew from the Chelsea scene told me he was an escort. He didn't have a green card and needed to make money and that was his choice. I eventually dated him and had sex with him at no charge but I got to know a lot about his clients. There was one who was in his 80s who liked coke during sex. There was a 20 something male model who loved the convenience and sometimes would hire my friend. My friend said that he was the best looking guy he had ever been with and to get money for it was mind blowing. The gamut was pretty much nice guys to creeps. Not an easy business but everyone has their reasons for hiring an escort, and it has nothing to do with looks sometimes, but other times it does.

I am now getting close to the age when I can't just hop on Grindr and get my top choices so I am really considering hiring someone but I want to find an someone like R9 who is more connective to the person rather than strip and pose and get it done with. That would make me feel gross. I really believe when ready a little research like R9 suggested will help find someone decent. I have a good, secure job and have money to indulge or waste so I will definitely be giving it a try soon.

In 2007 I hired one 3 different times. With my then husbands permission as he had MS and wasnt able to function anymore . He was a very nice guy with a huge 9 incher and a deep southern accent (wich was why I hired him) and it was always an enjoyable time. But at $400 a pop (plus tip) it wasnt something Id do again .

R19 what did this guy do for $400 and how long did he stay? My there seems to be more competition these days because the prices aren't that high unless the escort is a celeb.

[quote]the fact that something could go off track or get weird

If you find someone who's really a professional, this won't be a problem. I assume you don't worry about this when you go to a barber to get your hair cut, but it's really not very different. As R9 says, Daddy's Reviews is a good resource.

R20 he did everything you asked except bottom . Wich wasnt my thing anyway . Each session was 2-3 hours . He was good looking and extremely talented in the sack wich is why he could charge the rates he did and get it. That cock of his was a thing of beauty . So big,so fat,so rock hard . Black hair and blue eyes ,claimed 35 but I think more 40 and that didnt matter one whit. He was on men for rent and had very glowing reviews . I think what I loved the most was how he'd be fucking you and make all kinds of noises. Discreet noises like grunts and moans ,not screaming and over emoting. When he'd mutter "throw that ass baby" in that southern accent Id lose it !

dont straight guys have to dine and wine girls so that they can get pussy. it is pretty much the same with escort but way cheaper and better.

[quote]Word to the wise: Make sure they accept Diner’s Club. That screens out the riffraff.

The truly exclusive ones only accept the AmEx black card.

I need to go on a pep regimen after reading this thread. Just ghastly.

This is all very helpful information.

I'd really just like to explore a roleplay fantasy with a guy, whether it's a uniform sort of thing, or 'daddy.'

Nothing too unusual, and I really want my role in it to be more of a voyeur. So it sounds like that's pretty attainable.

It's important to be upfront with your expectations OP. If you want to get pounded, kiss, rim him, etc., clear it up before you exchange money. Some guys will state their limits in their profile while others are more generalized.

Not a fan. Did it a couple times for convenience. No connection, mechanical, pointless - every time so it wasn't just bad picks. For me anyway. Seems like others find it useful. I couldn't suspend reality. I was paying for it and he was being paid for it. There was just nothing there except services rendered. Which they were.

Escorts are fun!

I've tried about 10 guys. I stopped a few years ago. II can't really justify it financially. Plus I'm almost at 60. Diminishing returns. Its even more dangerous and seedy if you get old.

I still have a couple fuck buddies.

I chose wisely 9 out of 10 times. HOT HOT HOT. And physically exceptional. 1 time I chose poorly a too young african dude with a ginormous but limp cock and no social skills. I gave him his money and said he was a rip off and walked out.

I hired one Turkish guy in his early 40s about 5 times when I was in my mid 50s. He charged top dollar and was a real PRO. Man that guy could FUCK. He looked like an engineer in the face, but his body was powerful as was his dick and his brain. I still exchange brief social greetings online about 2x a year. I wonder when he'll have to retire. Will people hire a 50yo daddy escort? Who knows. He travels around Europe then takes the money back to some shitty city in Bulgaria where he lives and probably supports who knows how many people.

When I was living in Los Angeles in the late 80's and early 90's, I hired porn actor Mike Henson. This was prior to his being diagnosed with HIV.

We agreed to meet at the Silver Spoon, a West Hollywood restaurant, to handle the transaction.

I paid him and suggested we get a bite to eat before heading to my place on North Larrabee, several blocks away.

We were having such fun talking that we ended up spending about 2 hours at the restaurant before walking to my place.

Sex was amazing. He was more beautiful in person than he seemed in his films and we did just about everything. He seemed in no hurry to leave and we talked afterwards for about an hour and then shared a shower and had sex again. That time I topped him as he had topped me previously.

After the shower we lay down and I dozed off. When I awoke about 3 in the morning, he was gone. ON the bedside table, he'd left all the money I had paid him ($ 250.00) and a note asking me to call him again sometime.

[quote] All jokes aside

Clearly OP you are a person with unrealistic expectations if you think no one is going to joke about this. Your unrealistic expectations would result in a unsatisfactory experience for you.

R31 I hate you! I've busted so many nuts to his hotel room scene with Kevin Williams

[quote]I need to go on a pep regimen after reading this thread.

Kellogg's Pep? I don't think they make it anymore.

I've hired many escorts through the years -starting in my mid twenties. I wasn't ugly -just deeply closeted with no way to host. I have met a few bad ones, of course, but most were lots of fun. Hot guys all. There have been a few that I saw regularly, and what the poster above said is true -it is better sex when you know him and he knows you. One loved how hairy my chest was, and he came multiple times, and even offered to return my money if I'd fuck him again. I know, that sounds like ES, but it happened. I did fuck him again, but I also paid him. I was too naive in those days to realize it, but looking back now he had to have been high on something. I have no moral qualms about trading money for sex, but keeping the cash because he's too stoned to care would be crossing a line. I hired one guy and we ended up dating for over a year. We were really sexually compatible, and he worked in pron as a top, but was a big ole' bottom in real life. I still hire a guy every now and then when I'm traveling -mostly for the convenience of knowing what I'll get, and when it will happen. Nothing more frustrating that sitting around in a hotel room alternating between A4A, Grindr, Scruff, etc. watching the clock tick by knowing you have to be up early for a meeting/flight/whatever.

For me, the key to a successful transaction is to remember that it IS a transaction. You both have needs, expectations, and limits. Talk about them up front -don't be shy, it's not like you're going to see this guy again. Many won't commit to specific things in an email or over the phone, so I just do most of the talking. I tell him what I'm looking for (and what I look like). Once I do that, they usually share a little of what they are into and we set a time. I always shower first, and refrain from putting anything on that has a fragrance or a taste. Nearly every single guy has told me how much they appreciate my being clean (which is a sad commentary about most of the men they meet). Once we're naked I treat him as if he were a guy that I had picked up due to mutual attraction. I try to make the pleasure mutual, and listen to his feedback (verbal, body language). I'm not into treating a man like a piece of meat to fuck and throw away. But if I were in that mood, I'd certainly tell the guy up front that that was my fantasy. Despite their hot bodies and big endowments, escorts are men, and men have fragile egos. Hiring one doesn't hurt my self-esteem in the least, and I'd never want a guy leaving my room feeling like a piece of shit.

[quote] The truly exclusive ones only accept the AmEx black card.

So I guess I’ll be out of luck with my Chalmer’s Big and Tall Man’s shop card.

[quote] The truly exclusive ones only accept the AmEx black card.

Most black card holders have “social secretaries” and “bodyguards” to meet their needs.

I like to go on rent.men and see what the talent is like.... there's a huge variety of guys out there selling their body. You can limit by physical characteristics to see if your fantasy fuck is out there. Have fun OP!

I hired an escort when I wanted to experiment with being a bottom. I tried bottoming a few times early in my adult gayhood but didn't care for it. I tried it off and for a while and still didn't like it that much. Still, I kept wondering why so many bottoms were eager to do it. Then I had a few encounters that I thought could have been more pleasurable had they lasted longer. Sometime after that I was looking hard to find, online and with apps, a compatible top. Being an average guy in Los Angeles, that was hard to do. It's a sea of bottoms out here and tops can have their choice of guys. After lots of frustration and curiosity I decided to hire an escort. I did what R15 suggested and picked a middle of the range guy. He didn't look drugged out or like he spent hours in the gym every day. He was just a normal, clean-cut guy. I ended up having a good time and happy that I finally had a good experience bottoming.

Before that, I was a little judgmental of people who hired escorts. Now, I get it. For some people it can be just completely transactional. As long as everyone knows what they're in for then I don't see the problem anymore.

Anybody with more to tell about the Sauna scene in Brazil? It must be Rio or Sao Paulo right?

Why not Colombia?

do people negotiate the cost?

You negotiate the cost up front -Before you do anything.

Yes, nothing ensures a good time like telling an escort you don't want to pay them their normal rate r42. You are guaranteed to have a fun session.

Trust me, an escort would rather you discuss fees before meeting you, rather than have you try to stiff him afterward.

It's not for me. I have to be in love to enjoy sex.

Why are prostitutes looked down on in the straight world, but practically deified in the gay lifestyle?

Gay sex is more likely to be transactional, whether with hookers or not. It is what it is.

OP, I highly recommend checking the reviews from a website like rentmen.com (which has the most current reviews, even though they don't tell you very much) or daddysreviews.com. Choose someone who has been well reviewed and has been doing this for a while. If you go to daddyreviews, read about the experience with him and see if he offers what you want: some escorts are highly specific in what they will offer. Do not choose based on photos alone, because oftentimes escorts will use outdated (or even someone else's) photos.

I lived in Knoxville, Tennessee for just a few years, and I hired one back then because I did not find the gay men in town very appealing, so i hired an escort whose services I checked out on the Internet. He was terrific and gave me exactly the experience I wanted, but I had done my research online first.

[quote] Why are prostitutes looked down on in the straight world, but practically deified in the gay lifestyle?

They're not deified in the gay world.

You could perhaps say that about the most famous gay porn stars, but that's only because they're especially well-built and attractive, and beauty is the currency of the gay subculture. But most prostitutes do not look like the most famous gay porn stars.

I'm surprised at how many escort profiles look like Scruff profiles. Spare me your glamour shots bitch, I want to see cock, ass, and kick the tires! This is not a love connection, I'm giving you money.

[quote]Why are prostitutes looked down on in the straight world, but practically deified in the gay lifestyle?

Virulent homophobe or clueless frau? You make the call!

[quote]Trust me, an escort would rather you discuss fees before meeting you, rather than have you try to stiff him afterward.

For those prices, he'd better be the one stiffing me!

Aside from rent dot men and jocks to go, are there any other reliable sites? Are there any for high end escorts?

Price is not typically a negotiable thing. The price set it the price they are willing to pay. It's in poor form to negotiate an escort's hourly rate for a short session. You can negotiate trips, extended weekends, and even sleeping arrangements up front. The more transparent everyone is while being respectful, the better the time.

It's something that I would like to do at least once in my life, I actually find it a turn-on the idea of paying for sex and ordering the guy to do everything I want them to do. They would need to be literally my physical ideal though, and a good 'performer'.

I have spent some time in an 'escort bar' in Prague (the regular clientele initially thought I was one of the escorts) but as the guys there skewed younger/twinkier I declined to indulge - I would have definitely had the bouncer though, although he was allegedly straight.

Me too, frequently mistaken for a hustler in Wilton Manors and Mykonos.

My type! But escorts don't look like him, sigh.

Don’t haggle with an escort over their hourly rate. Take it or leave it and include at least $20 of a tip.

The experience is already degrading enough for them.

58 you might find that on the Milan, Geneva, Zurich, Vienna circuit.

[quote] I'm surprised at how many escort profiles look like Scruff profiles. Spare me your glamour shots bitch, I want to see cock, ass,

There’s a reason they have a “private gallery” too.

Used to do it when you could find street hustlers for less than $100 after a night out at the bars that ended unsuccessfully. With the going rate of over $250 - and decreased libido -I can’t justify it. 10 mins of free porn saves me $300 which ic an spend on a weekend trip somewhere. I miss the days of street hustlers.

I don't understand the tipping aspect of this transaction.

As an escort you're working for yourself, so everything you earn goes to.....YOU! I can understand if you work for an agency or a pimp the tipping part of it, since you'd be giving a percentage of your earnings to someone else.

Can someone explain, please?

America is a tipping culture r63. If you enjoyed the service rendered it is customary to give a tip.

Make sure you specify "with release," OP.

R64 I get that, and I agree in the USA you tip everyone!

I get tipping waitstaff (because they're underpaid), salon workers (because they turnover a portion of what they make to the salon owners), massage therapists who work in spas, clubs etc. (because they also turn over a portion of their earnings to an owner etc. etc.

As a freelancing escort, you're keeping 100% of what you make; therefore, I still don't understand the tipping part.

Just don't hire a whore who thinks they're something special OP. At the end of the day they are mostly drug addicts with minimal education who come from broken homes, and if they had an ounce of self-respect they wouldn't be selling their holes for cash. Be sure to hide your valuables and prescription drugs before he comes over.

It's one thing to come in them, it's quite another to treat them like you would a normal person.

[quote] Be sure to hide your valuables and prescription drugs before he comes over.

Better: either find one that does an incall or get a cheap motel room. Don’t bring them to your house. I’ll save my story for another time, but suffice it to say I’m glad this guy didn’t know where I lived.

Also, OP, as others have said, if you’re looking for something particular, be sure to specify.

For example, if you’re a bottom but you also like getting head, be sure your gentleman caller is not a strict top who will recoil at that.

I’ll admit I use them every time I take a vacation. I find the rentmen site to be safe. Never had a bad experience.

I was a phone dispatcher for a gay escort agency in the early aughts. It was a great job if you didn't mind the pervert callers who were never going to hire a guy but still called every night. Then rentmen came along and rendered the agencies useless. The best part about it was working with all gay/bi men, I would love for that to be the case now.

[quote]At the end of the day they are mostly drug addicts with minimal education who come from broken homes, and if they had an ounce of self-respect they wouldn't be selling their holes for cash.

So much for buying the fantasy.

The hottest ones are the gay4pay go go boys who dance around town. Theyre straight but will still most anything for money.

R58, I've seen plenty of guys who look like that escorting in the LA area.

I have a friend I met on Grindr who wants to do a 3 way and when I asked him about hiring an escort he said that would be perfect. I will make sure the escort knows the deal upfront and see if there is a surcharge for 2.

Anyone ever hired an escort for 2 before?

A surcharge?

Try double the rate.

Do they charge by the inch?

Does one pay extra for foreskin?

Do they bring the condoms or does the customer supply them?

[quote]I get tipping waitstaff (because they're underpaid), salon workers (because they turnover a portion of what they make to the salon owners), massage therapists who work in spas, clubs etc. (because they also turn over a portion of their earnings to an owner etc. etc. ]

You have it reversed. Read R64 again: "If you enjoyed the service rendered it is customary to give a tip." That principle always applies. You don't tip wait staff because they're underpaid, you tip them because they're rendering a service. You tip massage therapists because they're rendering you a service, not because they have to give up money to the owners. The things you cite are what businesses do in response to tipping; they're not the reason for it. Escorts deserve a tip too.

Are there any twin escorts that work together?

R78, forget the tip give the escorts the full shaft!

Honey,as I laid there with my hole throbbing and thoroughly pounded out I was more than happy to throw an extra $50 in the cash pile !

R75 here. I bet ya I will find an escort willing to do a 3 way without doubling the price. Competition is still alive and well I believe.

I did not expect a tip when I was doing it. I made the hourly rate enough that I was happy regardless, so when I did get tips, it was always a nice surprise and I genuinely appreciated it.

R82 Not if they are both old and disgusting...

Yeah right, now way R82, not unless they were like smoking hot or a once in a life time celeb

I called a guy once and he sounded so gregarious and friendly and all 'buddy this' and 'buddy that' -- which is my type, my kryptonite. whatever the express is.

And I get there and he's all buddy this and buddy that. He got inside me head lighting fast. Summed up my daddy issues. We met a few times; once, when I felt really safe with him I said 'let's do it.' (meaning fuck me baby); he kind of chuckled a bit, kissed me on the forehead and said, as if he knew something I didn't, 'oh, baby. I'm not going to fuck you.'

I was relieved; just wasn't ready. He knew it and he took care of me.

No pun intended, but FUCK I miss him.

express = expression.

So you paid him NOT to fuck you? Multiple times?

Uh, when escorts talk about paid companionship, very often they mean it. Some men aren't that interested in fucking and just want somebody to listen to them and they'll pay big bucks for it.

I've never hired an escort because I have a strong feeling that if he was young and good looking, the sex was great and he was affectionate, I'd become hopelessly hooked.

R9, why did you leave the industry?

[quote]It's one thing to come in them, it's quite another to treat them like you would a normal person.

My exact words to Poppy about that dreadful, common Jennifer Fitzgerald.

R90 That is their goal, get a regular and bam, 5,000 year right there (not including christmas and birthday gifts).

[quote]I've never hired an escort because I have a strong feeling that if he was young and good looking, the sex was great and he was affectionate, I'd become hopelessly hooked.

I went through a phase where I hired a number of escorts...four, I think. The first one was so gorgeous, and also so loving, or else so into me—he stayed long beyond his appointed hour—that if I hired him again, I knew I'd be hooked. So I tried three more. One was too drunk to do anything. Another lied (it was before pics were as de rigeur as they are today). Another one was purely a masseur "with release." And none of them had that je ne sais quoi that is what you're really looking for, like the first one did.

So...what I decided was that hookers were just like real life. Every now and then you pick a winner. The rest, meh.

Still, I didn't want to fall in love with someone I was paying on a per-fuck basis. So I never called him again. I've regretted that every now and then. The name he gave me was Jason.

I've hired a fair bit of escorts, and I'm still young (under 40). Like R92 said, if they have a regular that is generous then they're set for a while because, like R93, you can get hooked. The lines can get blurred, especially when he stays extra, or you meet him at a particularly vulnerable stage in your life, or you two just (seemingly) click.

It's hard, but you have to remember that at the end of the day, he arrived into the situation expecting to leave wealthier. You may be nice, attractive, charming, whatever, but you're also a client. It's like going to your favorite coffee shop every week and expecting to get unlimited free coffee: It's a business, and your relationship with the business is fundamentally transactional.

Out of the fair bit I've hired so far, I can name three off the bat that I believe I fell for. It becomes especially complicated when they are your only venue for intimacy, or you meet them enough times that you two start to have inside jokes, automatically plan for the next meeting, or you stop looking for intimacy from other possible guys.

I have stories I can tell, but I think this post is dragging a bit. My suggestion is that you not meet the same escort more than about 2 times in maybe 6 months. Anything more and you may begin to "like" like him because by then you'll have a rapport, and just once may leave you with a tugging regret that you didn't do everything you wanted.

In the industry, Pleasure IS the business, but remember that the other half of the party is viewing it as just that: a business

Thank you to the posters for the cautionary tales. I have such an addictive personality - not for food, drugs, alcohol, or even sex, but for intimacy and physical beauty. I fell in love with a useless therapist once, and that cost me a bundle.

But I admit the thought of touching and smelling and feeling the weight of someone who is young and beautiful is very tempting.

R94, thanks for sharing your experiences.

Go on Grindr or Scruff around the holidays, hot college jocks etc bored during the holidays. Can offer significantly less and get the same bang--you'll most likely need to host though.

Never had luck with them. Guess it's the way I look.

is it daddyreviews or daddysreviews? Is the site reliable—and do you get bombarded with skeevy ads after you go there?

TL;DR= Disappointing, unless you're hot also, find a massage guy you can connect with.

I'm an eldergay who would like to hire an escort but I don't because none of my fantasies include an old, fat, white guy. That's disgusting. Lucky for me I had a great and varied sex life and found a good husband while I was still hot enough. Here are my several IRL experiences with escorts.

1. AOL M4M SF= No money exchanged. I didn't know he was an escort until he opened the door, I recognized him from porn/ads. 100 percent hot body/dick/attitude with cute dogs. I bet men fell in love with him 10 times a day. He fucked me mechanically for 2 1/2 minutes, watched himself in the mirror.

2." A" train- Papi Songo, many stories about him. I'm sure my face lit up when I saw him, he looked at me with disgust. Sad!

3. Central Park Ramble- I saw a guy that only made 1 porno ever, that I could ever find, Horse Hung Hispanics number 23 or something. And I did a lot of looking. I walked by him and smiled knowingly and he turned around and followed me, growling like a bear (first and only time of my life, how fucking hot). He was wearing a track suit and he picked me up from behind and dragged me into the bushes and pushed me against a rock. OMG MARY! Having jerked off to his deodorant can sized dick that I could feel halfway up my back, I KNEW if I went any further I would end up in the emergency room. Too big to suck and no way is that going inside me. He was sweet about it, it was not his first time. When I broke free of him I looked up to see about 10 guys standing around waiting for it to happen! This was the hottest sex I never had.

4. NYC ABS hustlers. These really are the best. You can find what ever you want in every price range, ethnicity and you get to feel the person in advance. Plus you get a lot of blue collar guys who want to make a quick 40 before they go home.

5. A rentman guy lives in my neighborhood. He's used the same pic for 20 years. Big dick latin top, bearish. Takes a viagra, lets you play with it, sticks it in you if you want. Couldn't care less, next. Low energy.

NYC rentmen has like 500 men. It's overwhelming

R46 Thanks, Defacto. I'm sure you'll resuscitate this thread five years from now.

So many of these stories could substitute "personal trainer" instead of "escort" and still be eerily accurate.

r100 what is ABS hustlers?

Had the same confusion R103 - I guessed ABS is adult bookstore. I really hate uncommon abbreviation usage.

It's daddysreviews.com. It had very slim pickings in my area when I looked last - you'll find more at rentmen. But it's not a skeevy site at all, no random popups or anything like that. It's actually a very old-fashioned website - it looks like they created it in about 1998 and have never updated it. And the reviews are honest and blunt.

I've done it, here in NYC. I'm in my 30s, in decent shape; usually do pretty well on apps, but sometimes I've found myself in the mood to suck off a hung younger guy and control the situation. Sometimes it's been fun, sometimes it hasn't. The ones that are good at it make you feel like they're into you. I'm pleasant, but ignore that, as it quickly can become something in my mind that it's not. I haven't done it this year, but I'd imagine with COVID there's a lot of strippers and bartenders and actors out of work. You can generally negotiate. I wouldn't tell a soul I've paid.

There are ABS hustlers in NYC? Who knew! 50 buck hustlers? in 2020? Wow.

It is about control, choice and no drama for me. I don’t want to feel loved or cared for - I just want sex with a hot guy with a nice dick who I don’t have to deal with drama or neediness from - and for the guy to leave when it’s done. Maybe when I’m much older and lonely I’ll be interested in talking or affection - but I would find that unnecessary and even annoying when I just want to have hot sex.

Never done this but curious. Doesn't feel like a last resort, just a chance to get someone really hot for an adventure. Looked at daddysreviews (oh that name and the little clip-art graphics) but only one pic per escort?

[quote]. There are ABS hustlers in NYC? Who knew! 50 buck hustlers? in 2020? Wow.

I have no idea if the ABS survived corona. I haven't been in one since February. You can do this all on Grindr.

While it is admittedly easier said than done OP, I would stress that you have no reason in the world to be nervous. This will be a transaction, as unromantic and uninvolved as paying somebody to mow your lawn or paint your walls (as it were...). You require a service, you discuss what the specificities of your needs with a person who can provide what you want, and agree to their fee. You are paying for their labour - it is no more complicated than that. Remember that neither you nor they have the time for coquettishness.

If you want affection and kindness, be upfront and ask if that is something they can provide. If they can't, thank them for their time and find somebody who can. If you want to pissed and spat on and torn a new asshole, you can ask for that too. Don't be embarrassed; a good escort will appreciate the directness. Think as a DLer: tell them of your needs NOW so you don't have to tell them LATER.

I suppose I should give some context: I have never hired one for myself but a few years ago (and very few people know this) I helped a friend who was dying from a debilitating illness to hire an escort. By this point, he was wheelchair-bound with limited mobility, and his speech was starting to deteriorate. It was perhaps a little under a year before he died, and he wanted a final sexual experience while he was still able to enjoy it. I made several phone calls, having to explain in detail what the situation was and what would be required of them. Most of them politely declined, probably thinking I was a pervert concocting an elaborate scene for my own gratification. But one did. He was kind in my dealings with him, and seemed to have enormous compassion for my friend, and understood what was required of him. I never asked for the details for what actually happened that afternoon, and I know my friend subsequently found the experience to be far more emotionally complex than he had anticipated (as many things are to people who are facing their own death), but the escort was a total gent.

It also reinforced my view that that sex is a human, pragmatic need. And as long as we're all consenting adults, we should have no shame in using pragmatic ways to have those needs addressed. I'm a whore, darlin', with few sexual hangups, which I feel - as somebody who is not yet dead - is something that I owe to my dear, departed and much missed friend.

If you decide to go ahead with it, OP - I hope you have a great time.

I hire whenever I can. No guilt, no shame. Then again, I've never viewed sex as anything more than relief/release. It's the same thing as farting or taking a dump. I've had sex with thousands, maybe even tens of thousands of guys, in my life, counting everything from simple blow jobs all the way up to orgies and sex parties. Yes I'm a whore, and why the fuck not?!?! Life's a banquet!

[quote] It's the same thing as farting

If you pay me $250, I'll fart beside you.

[quote] He got inside me head lighting fast.

Why were you wearing a coal miner’s helmet when you saw him?

Surely there are not 50 dollar whores in a big city like NYC on an app like Grinder.

Whores START at 200 and more like 300 in London, Paris, Frankfurt, Berlin, Geneve, Zurich, Vienna, Milan however I'm told they can decline to 100 or LOWER in hard hit cities in Southern Europe. Competition in seedy places like Barcelona probably knock down the price but do you want that kind of nasty dick?

I think at least 50% of whores have no problem barebacking so if that is an issue, put that on your shopping list for must have or must avoid.

Geneva, The Hague, Bourgogne. . . .

[quote] I helped a friend who was dying from a debilitating illness to hire an escort.

What you did was extremely kind gesture. I'm sure it allowed your friend to feel strong emotions and physical feelings that helped him so much

I thought DLers claimed New York was America's "world class city". Do world class cities that are in the "first world" have 40 dollar gay whores?

When CL and Grindr were each in their respective heydays, I wondered why anyone would pay for it--finding sex at that point was as easy as ordering a pizza and often involved less conversation.

But given how all of the apps have deteriorated over the past few years, I can understand why someone would want to cut through the hassle and hire someone.

Curious if you all are ever worried about getting caught in a police sting, especially in smaller cities.

My partner had a friend who was twink surfer type. This friend had a boyfriend who was a young pilot. One night the twink took ecstacy and asked his boyfriend to call a rent man. Well, the rent man was this huge beautiful black guy packing. From the way my partner describes it, that twink was fucked in every position imaginable. There were lube hand prints on the wall, ceiling, literally everywhere. Anyway, the rent guy really got into the whole thing and as others have stated, stayed longer than one hour. When they finally finished up the rent man said to call him anytime. A satisfying experience for all involved. Although the twink probably couldn’t sit down for a week.

Based on R5's response, I can't understand why the COVID situation is so bad in Brazil! They seem to be doing everything right, like leaving bath houses open.

very hard to tell on the daddysreviews site if someone is what you're looking for. One picture and minimal information.

I think the thing I'd be most worried about is STDs, even before COVID

There's got to be few current or ex-escorts around here and I'd like to hear from them.

Will you accept any kind of client and if not, where do you draw the line?

How do you get and stay aroused by a client that wouldn't normally be sexually appealing to you?

Do you or did you need to use Viagra or Cialis?

Do you or did you specialise in anything?

Have you had any bad experiences and if so, what were they?

Did you ever get emotionally involved with a client?

If you left escorting, why? Do you regret doing it?

Do your friends and family know about your escorting?

And anything else you would like to share...

My friend and former roommate was a waiter when we met and struggling financially. He was asked to do a porn scene after being discovered in Chelsea and that led to escorting. He had a lot of money and fun for about 8 years but the excess of partying and crazy hours took its toll on him both emotionally and then physically, mostly from alcohol abuse. He slept with a few semi famous people in his heyday and travelled to many exciting places. He is now in his 40s and lives with his Dad in Texas and life is not so grand anymore. He works in food service as a bartender or waiter and changes jobs often. He had a lot of potential in his earlier days and even met a nice man who wanted him to give it up and be kept and have college paid for but he chose the fun times. We talk infrequently as we don't have much in common anymore, but he claims to have no regrets, but is now living a very basic middle class life in Texas.

I prefer hustlers to escorts. Average guys from poor neighborhoods who are just looking to make a buck - vs the buffed, shaved and poised “escorts”. NYC used to have lots of hustlers when there was still poor people living here. Now it’s mostly escorts - and bored college-educated kids on Grindr. Ugh - overpriced and uninteresting. I miss Stellas.

for those of us who are just into the intimacy and not the fucking, it's really too bad there's not a more direct way to hire someone for some TLC and cuddling.

"Boyfriend experience" is also on the menu, R126. But if it worked out, you'd soon be broke.

R114, cute. It's the Irish in me. I type 'me' instead of 'my'

But the good news is even though he didn't fuck me, we still used Condoms, Rose! Condoms!

He got inside me head lighting fast. Why were you wearing a coal miner’s helmet when you saw him?

—Rose

If you can afford it, it's fantastic.

what the best site/source in NYC to really get a good sense of what you're buying?

Escorts who are bottoms are more responsive. So are Asian escorts.

Tops only escorts are a no-no.

R131 if you are white you should not have any problems getting an asian to fuck for free though.

R132 you wish

R131 the best escort I ever had was top only. I don’t know where you get your generalizations from.

R134 Cold and passionless unless the top is very gay

Why anyone would risk their health and hire an escort is beyond me? In addition, I'm well educated and like a sex-mate to have the ability to discuss art, culture, etc., and not be limited to how much weight he can lift in the gym. /shudders. In that regard, I'd think the majority of escorts would be beneath my station and thus I would not attempt to hire one. It may work for others who want just sex, but certainly not for someone like myself who requires more than sex.

Gonna hire this guy.

Sorry, R136, but you're a fool as well as a snob. If you have sex with ANYONE you are taking the same health risks. I've been with many escorts through the years, and never had an STI of any kind. I have a friend who barebacked one time with his boyfriend and got AIDS. In may experience, the very sexually-active guys get more frequent checkups and are more aware of their health. But in the end, you set your own limits. Just don't fool yourself into thinking, "It's okay with this guy -he's not a whore." As for the rest, the last escort I hired was from Europe and spoke four languages. We used three of them together during our meet-up. He was clearly educated and had impeccable manners. I would have been proud to sit with him in a nice restaurant, or have him on my arm at a party.

Beneath my station = Frau

r125, Although Stella's is gone, there are still a few places on 8 and 9th ave, which attract the same type guys. Also, the street/dining scene at happy hours can be like a buffet of hot mens or of garbage depending on the moment. I'm not looking but ANYONE with any game can get with these guys. You just walk up the street, go in to separate booths and they whip it out for 20, let you suck it for 40, come for 60, fuck you for 100.....I'm guessing, based on conversations I've overheard. Because I'm with r136. I would never risk my health for something as hot as an Italian construction worker from Hackensack who just want's to unload before he hops on the bus to NJ.

Is very easy. You negotiate with Alexei. Basic rate is poosey only. Anal extra. You tell Alexei and he set price. Cost more if we use Lincoln Bedroom. No pee-pee but I have friends who do pee-pee.

I put name but afraid someone know me.

[quote] just want's to unload

Oh, DEAR!

[quote] for someone like myself

*eyeroll*

[quote] the majority of escorts would be beneath my station

*eyero...oh, shit! They fell out!

Please tell me R136 was satire

hard to tell if that is a skillful troll of a deluded DLer's folie de grandeur, or the real McCoy.

[quote]There's got to be few..ex-escorts around here and I'd like to hear from them.

Read Midnight Cowboy. What a tawdry life.

R132 I doubt it. Even if you're a fatty the Asians will ignore you.

Beneath his station? Would that be bus or train?

Not that long ago there were still monied gay men who took on young companions with fantastic educations but modest backgrounds. I personally know of Oxbridge and Ivy boys who played this game in the 80s and 90s and I think some of the latest instaho boys have tried to do the same. The problem with the instahos is they do not have access to the truly great possible johns, because instahoing your whoriness is the antithetical to what the 40-60 year old international gentleman wants in his life as a "companion". They want a young hunk with NO desire for a public profile.

I’m so fucking horny.

[quote]very hard to tell on the daddysreviews site if someone is what you're looking for. One picture and minimal information.

I don't think you understand what its purpose is. It's only for reviews--it's not a listing of escorts or a marketing site. The reviews usually contain a link to where the escort's ad is -- most often Rentmen or something similar. That's where you find out all the specifics and see more photos (and sometimes videos.)

There's a companion message board where there is a forum for people to discuss escorts, but they're strict about not allowing detailed reviews there. Lots of interesting info about people's good and bad experiences, escorts you might want to hire but can't find, etc. Other subforums about strip clubs, masseurs, foreign escorts, etc. Link attached.

[quote]Go on Grindr or Scruff around the holidays, hot college jocks etc bored during the holidays. Can offer significantly less and get the same bang--you'll most likely need to host though.

You keep your filthy paws off my sweet, innocent neighbour Joel!

[quote][R90] That is their goal, get a regular and bam, 5,000 year right there (not including christmas and birthday gifts).

At that point, aren't you veering into Sugar Daddy territory?

Will you accept any kind of client and if not, where do you draw the line?

How do you get and stay aroused by a client that wouldn't normally be sexually appealing to you?

Do you or did you need to use Viagra or Cialis?

Do you or did you specialise in anything?

Have you had any bad experiences and if so, what were they?

[quote] Did you ever get emotionally involved with a client?

One of my first clients was a gorgeous, young hot attorney with a massive heart and dick. I knew after the first time, I would never see him again because I was not in a place for a relationship.

[quote] If you left escorting, why? Do you regret doing it?

I left escorting because i did it to make money quickly and then when I had just enough saved, I got a good job. I don't regret it but I do feel less about myself for having done it. I did not come from a background where anyone even thought of escorting and even 5 years ago, people weren't wanting to be whores as blatantly as they are now with onlyfans, etc. For me, it is not something I am proud of, but more power to others and sex positivity.

[quote] Do your friends and family know about your escorting?

I told absolutely no one, not even my best friends. For the year I did it, I kept to myself mostly. I was in a funk and being around my friends living their normal lives and complaining about high class problems was too much. Now I am in a totally different place and still have the same friends, but that's one secret I'll never tell. Actually my shrink knows.

[quote] And anything else you would like to share...

I took for granted my good fortune, pissed away money like it was nothing, had a very entitled attitude and then was flat broke. My parents got tired of me asking for cash and I literally had like $20 to my name. The rent was seriously due tomorrow and I was not in my early 20's. Through my experience as an escort, I was so humbled that I learned a lot. I think I am a better, more responsible person with money, budgets, and I've dropped the attitude. In terms of experience, some of the clients were disgusting, obese, etc and some were smoking hot. But, they were all decent guys. I was very lucky. The beauty part of a good escort is that it is sex on demand and exactly how you want it, when you want it. It's self care.

[quote] Will you accept any kind of client and if not, where do you draw the line?

Yes, but I never promised sex. It was massage with bj and then upgrades possible based on my assessment when I saw them.

[quote] How do you get and stay aroused by a client that wouldn't normally be sexually appealing to you?

It depends on the situation. Viagra but it makes my nose stuffy and flushed.

[quote] Do you or did you specialise in anything?

The sensual, deep french kissing, sweet boyfriend experience sex with like cuddling and hanging out after. It's not something everyone can do.

I need to feel an emotional connection to my sex partner—I want to feel that he wants me as much as I want him.

I doubt I could order an escort and enjoy the experience, no matter how beautiful he is. Just knowing that he’s only there because I am paying him would get in the way

[quote] Have you had any bad experiences and if so, what were they?

You have to be constantly aware of everything at all times. I had a one off client who hired me for the twink torturing daddy fantasy but didn't tell me ahead of time. He was watching videos of a twink squeezing his balls, dumping hot wax on his cock. It was not my usual type of client. It was my most nerve-wracking b/c he was on drugs probably, but I did release some aggressions so it was fine.

I’ve been an “escort” before. Ask me anything.

There's an "Ask an Escort" forum on that message board I linked to upthread.

My hesitations about hiring an escort:

1. I'm not really into sex that much. I don't care about oral or anal. I'm more interested in kissing, making out, and body contact.

2. I can't get over the idea of imposing myself on someone who is not attracted to me. I wouldn't want anyone to do that to me, so I find the whole idea very off-putting. It just seems exploitative and degrading. That said, I have no problem with strippers.

If the client fails to get it up (and was hoping to top or get sucked), is he offered a partial or full refund?

Has anyone ever gotten a case of the crabbies from an escort?

Would that be cause for a refund?

Curious about the Brazil sauna cultures.

Feels like one of those things every gay man needs to do ina lifetime, like going to Palm Springs or an 80s diva concert

But I've read things like them boys saying one price and then demanding more when the deed is done...and literally some of them beating you up for not paying.

Yeah, I'm a whore and will likely get overcharged at a Brazilian sauna.

Do you sluts get tested for HIV after you have sex with these trollops?

R162 aren't you cute!

Have you heard of this thing called Truvada R162.

What makes you think they are not enjoying it r158. Most of the good ones are sex addicts who get off on the thrill and enjoy it very much. Not every client to look like a model. They care more about how you treat them.

Are you good at certain things in the sack? He will most likely enjoy it. In my experience anyway and I don’t exactly look like a model myself.

Some of these guys, the really good ones, are born to do this. They are naturals. They have a certain personality. It’s takes certain type.

Although these days, it seems like every guy under a certain age is a prostitute. They put their Venmo and cash app info on their pages like we are just supposed to pay them for for the privilege of looking at them.

L

Paying for sex is against the law. You dumb sluts realize that, don't you?

Not in Nevada not a lot of other countries.

R162, not me!

R167 This dumbass thinks we can’t see his posting history and can’t tell he also wrote R112 and R136. What a stupid troll.

How does an escort top manage to hump an unattractive client ?

Escort bottoms I can understand. They just need to lie there and present holes.

R153, did you post awhile back that you had a new r'ship that you liked very much, and you wanted to tell him about your brief history of escorting, but were afraid he would despise or reject you?

People said that if he were worthwhile, he would understand and not judge you.

Can I suggest R148, that the 80s and 90s don't really qualify as "not that long ago" anymore--it's 2020.

And that in addition to your reasons about Instahos, who are rarely Ivy- or Oxbridge-educated (or any college, for that matter, community or otherwise), one big change from 40 years ago is that it is now socially acceptable for a man to be gay and that many well-off gay men in their golden years are married and/or can have open relationships with younger men. No need to keep it on the down low.

And then of course there's Calvin Klein and his peers...

Underage hustlers is best

I should stop reading this thread, my dad was a whore before he married my mom. Then he became a dentist.

R170 can you tell how to track someone’s posting history? I’ve been on DL for years and still haven’t figured it out

[quote]Not in Nevada not a lot of other countries.

It most certainly is illegal in Nevada outside of a sanctioned brothel in certain counties. And there are NO brothels with male prostitutes.

Once we realize as a race that we need to evolve past this animalistic urge for sex, we will never progress. Through mindfulness we can look past our animalistic desires and to progress.

Or we could get over our hangups about sex, treat each other with respect but really enjoy fucking our brains out without shame

I want to marry r179's post.

R136 is you one of them eest cost intelektyools?

(How fucking tedious are you?)

[quote] Surely there are not 50 dollar whores in a big city like NYC on an app like Grinder.

Untrue.

I'll make a deal with those guys prating about sex work being illegal: When everyone stops at stop signs, uses their turn signals, and drives the speed limit I'll consider not trading money and sex. Until then, it's just hypocrisy.

There are valid reasons for it being illegal. Prostitution goes hand in hand with drug use, violence, disease, and underage sex-trafficking. It should be kept illegal. If someone is too ugly to procure sex without paying for it, then they probably shouldn't be having sex in the fist place.

R184, pictured! Well, smell her. Sure, of course she has has a line out the door. God gave her hotness. Sadly, ugly old me, who has to pay, am shamed! Please allow me this small comfort of paid companionship, I beg you. Unlike you, I was born helplessly plain. And then I got old.

[quote] There are valid reasons for it being illegal. Prostitution goes hand in hand with drug use, violence, disease, and underage sex-trafficking. It should be kept illegal.

Um, the reason those things go with prostitution is specifically because prostituion is illegal.

Excellent reply R186!

My partner and I visited a friend in Greenwich Village. He lived in a rent controlled apartment because he was a professor at NYU. He had a boyfriend but was cheating with an illegal from Venezuela. This was in the early 2000’s before all the shit went down. The Venezuelan boy toy worked as a dog walker and prostitute and through him I went his fellow illegals, all good liking and worked shitty jobs but being in New York, they thought they were in heaven. I would’ve hired them if I’d been single.

All the Venezuelan hookers from early 2000 who were all hot then are now all on govt assistance program HASA in NYC with taxpayers paying for most everything they need in their middle age and beyond. I know many.

[quote] This was in the early 2000’s before all the shit went down.

???

R184 what a rude thing to say. If someone has to pay and is ugly, they shouldn’t have sex at all? I hope you are at least an 8/10 dear...

I woke up horny and there's a big snowstorm. I think I'll order in.

r190. Didn't you hear about it? It was crazy. Like nothing you could even imagine.

Go to UberHooker, r192.

has no one been with any famous porn star/escorts like zeb atlas, johnny bravo, giovanni, hollibaugh, etc.?

R172 - I did have a summer fling with a guy I liked. He moved back to Australia, but I never said anything to him. I might just keep it a secret.

Ask Jack Mackenroth. From Project Runway failure to exchanging his MRSA on OnlyFans, I’m sure he could be bought at close out prices.

Jack Mackenroth is pretty hot. I would sleep with him.

R198 His over photoshopped face in his picture doesn’t match his sagging dimpled ass in the same pictures. He’s a joke like he’s always been.

A poster in this thread had a lovely story about Mike Henson.

Once a whore, always a whore.

I want cock tonight

gaaaaaaaaaa

[quote]Go to UberHooker

That was the name Melania used when she was working in Germany.

It can be hit and miss. I’ve had sex with porn stars for free at some bath houses. And that was from only paying a door fee!

Jack Mackenroth and his Ivy League degree are available for rent.

[quote]I'll make a deal with those guys prating about sex work being illegal: When everyone stops at stop signs, uses their turn signals, and drives the speed limit I'll consider not trading money and sex. Until then, it's just hypocrisy.

Yes, yes, it's exactly the same thing.

And when everyone stops wearing white after Labor Day, no more Ziplocks (or zip ties) for me!

Porn stars often go to bath houses or Gay towns like Fire Island and PTown. You can have them for free.

They’re sex addicts

Something I don't understand - you look on Rentmen, and the prices are $300-€300-££00 an hour. How can one hour possibly be enough time, and considering European salaries at least, €300 an hour is pretty much out of reach for most.

Sorry, £300

Ask that politician that loves Trump. Ladyg or something like that they say had so many.

A lot of them will give you discount if you join their Frequent Fucker Club.

I'm hiring an escort as I type this

I finally hired an escort for the first time in my life. I have been thinking about doing this for at least 5 years. I am in my mid 50s. It was last month during covid and I threw all caution to the wind. The guy was hot but a total bottom. I was looking for someone more top oriented but I ended up fucking this very hot macho latin guy which I was not expecting. I did not ask ahead of time and just went by his look and proximity to where I lived, because I went to his place. He was quite friendly and made me relax pretty quickly. He has since texted twice to meet again and I blocked him the second time as I lost my mojo to pay to fuck someone, no matter how hot they are. I will try again at another time with someone else, but I am in no hurry. The fantasy was much beter than the reality for me.

R214, it sounds like you weren't clear about what you wanted. I thought most escorts were tops or vers. Did you use protection? What did it cost?

R215, no they come in all types. My friend did it for a while and he's a complete bttom

R214 here. I was not totally clear about what I wanted. He was hot and close to where I lived so I went over. I just wasn't expecting this guy to really want to get fucked, he came before I did lol.

Porn legend Casey Donovan only bottomed.

Agree the going rate of $300 is ridiculous. I don’t know how they are able to get away with that - especially in times like this with lots of hot young guys unemployed. I’m confused where the cheap hookers from Craigslist went. The Rentmen site is filled with old guys who have been doing it forever. Is there - or can we start - a new site, Discountrentmen.com? These guys today are willing to shake their ass and show everything on social media for free - why not make a few bucks for a private show?

R214 here again. The guy I met wanted $250 but I was able to get a better rate ahead of time and I am grateful for that.

It’s my understanding that the advertised rate can often be negotiated down to half.

R214, I've been with some top-looking guys and I marvel at how they want me to fuck them.

Yes, yes, the dick is great but I'm not a top type.

Live and learn and as hard as it is, you have to talk about what you want and be clear.

I don't think bargaining someone down to accepting half their rate is a good way to begin this kind of transaction. Surely some goodwill is lost.

I agree; I'd pay double someone's rate if he gave me exactly what I wanted (in theory)

ironical, as I mostly want to be spooned with great affection

R214 here. The escort wanted to see my picture before he made his decision to see me. This annoyed me a bit since I was the one paying, but sent the picture anyway. He texted when he saw my picture and told me that he thought I was hot for a guy "my age". I was still nervous and just thought he said that to everyone to get on their good side. I thanked him and when I didn't agree on the spot to meet him he later texted with a discounted rate. It wasn't my idea to negotiate with him. I kind of got the impression that business was off during covid and there is more competition these days, so the rates charged are definitely not in stone. Like I mentioned before, he was a beautiful man, awesome body and cock, but didn't have the Alpha male energy I was looking for. It was not his fault at all, I still had a good experience, but not good enough to pay for a second time. Knowing myself, I might change my mind in another few months and give him a call because his body was so amazing and just focus on being oral with him. I won't pay to Top again, that I won't do.

He sounds like a greedy little bottom, R225. He should be paying you - you're on the business end.

Agree - bargaining ends up with the guy being half hearted and trying to minimize the experience in terms of time and effort. I’d rather find a $100 whore who is not a meathead bodybuilder. But where?

The adult vid stores in NYC remain pretty active throughout covid, if you live here. I passed by a few on Chelsea last week and lots of street trade hanging outside if that's your thing. Also I think strip joints like Adonis and buffdaddy are still operating, and those are great venues to find strippers for rent who fall under the radar and don't advertise online.

The experience of r214 gives rise to my absurd but well-researched generalization that many well built gay men with beautiful muscular bodies like to present a straight, masculine outward vibe, but would rather have their hole pounded than anything else.

I have a friend and he wanted a very specific type. he got lucky and hired his fantasy.

Think football quarterback type; the guy you lusted after in school not to just have sex with but you wanted to hang out with him and be his best buddy.

This escort gave the full-on boyfriend buddy experience. He made their get-togethers like a 'date' -- dinner, going out for the night and then coming back and great sex.

My pal was over the moon and still talks about him even though the escort moved on.

Everyone should get to experience what they want in life -- just once. If not more than once.

I’ve done it a few times. For me it’s a convenience thing. I’m 47 with good muscles due to 20 years at the gym. On my Grindr pics I have a beard which make me look like a rough daddy. I have no issue finding sexy young bottoms. They throw themselves at me. However when I want to be pounded, it becomes impossible. I suppose younger sexy tops with the kind of body I like are in such high demand that they’d rather fuck someone younger. And guys my age tend to be out of shape. Therefore it can be faster to pay someone to fuck me. Several times, they called me back to become fuck buddies. Everybody wins!

r231 Heloo Daddy!

Interesting that people who make their living having sex would need or want fuck buddies, especially one who had previously paid them for sex.

R233, my take on this is that escorts have a super high sex drive, and they can differentiate between clients, ie. their job, and their fuck buddies, which is pleasure.

The first time it happened to me I'd hired this super hot Brazilian hunk. He came to my hotel, pounded me hard for 10min, and left after I came. It was all very utilitarian tbh, but I was happy. However he messaged me 30min later and asked me whether I was still around and whether I wanted to spend the night with him. I went to his hotel and there we fucked for a couple of hours, and he was a completely different man. Sensual, attentive, alternating between rough and super sweet, like Brazilians know how to so well (when they look at you and whisper "gustoso"). He even let me fuck him hard. We had to stop after a few hours because he had a client. I went to my hotel to sleep, and in the morning he messaged me again, and off I went to his room again to continue. That was amazing. After that we stayed in touch and he would ask me to come and spend the WE with him when he was in the region working. Ah to be young again...

That's just sad, R224, that you'd pay $600 for an hour of cuddling.

I recommend getting a kitten. How about a nice Maine Coon; they get huge.

I went to East Side Club in NYC on night and this slim, good looking latino came into my room. We had some sex. He was DEFINITELY my type but he kept telling me how handsome I was and kept asking me if I liked him. I was getting a prostitute vibe from him. Does any one agree. I gave him my phone number and he texted me and told me once again that I was handsome. I never called him.

You need to be on PrEP to read through this thread safely.

Brazilian men and women are raised to respect the whoring profession. There is nothing shameful about it in Brazil, even though it is still very Catholic. If STDs were not so easy to catch I would be out there spending for a new whore every weekend!

R235, it may be sad to you, but ... different strokes for different folks.

I don't begrudge anyone their fantasy. Live and let live.

Or, in this case, live and let cuddle.

Anyone use Mintboys for escorts? Any thoughts or experience?

*Opens Uber app to find a Ford Escort*

R235, it's all rather moot now in light of COVID; I'm of the mindset that I need to play a waiting game.

We all have what we're into; I don't judge what you like; there's no need to judge mine.

I'm not judging you, R224. I just think it's sad that the only way of obtaining some affection and physical contact is through a significant financial transaction.

R235