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Cobra Kai Season 3

Johnny and Daniel team up to defeat Kreese!

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by Anonymousreply 10417 hours ago

This show is amazing.

by Anonymousreply 112/28/2020

If there is not even the slightest hint of Lawrusso in this season, not even a single lampshade hanging, then I am out.

Daniel & Johnny went on a date to a restaurant last season. The writers have to top that, now.

by Anonymousreply 212/29/2020

Zabka deserves all the nominations for S2:E3 “Fire & Ice”.

He’s nailed the drama, comedy and melodrama, without ever hitting a false note. Alphabet needs to push this as best...drama? Comedy? Limited series?

The 80s nostalgia is powerful and the edge is unique for our new normal.

by Anonymousreply 312/29/2020

Daniel seems to lust Johnny in every scene they have together, you can see it in his eyes. I wonder why it comes across like that? Maybe because for some reason sweet Ralph Macchio just has zero chemistry with any woman, ever?

And on the show the characters both seem jealous of each other with women...

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by Anonymousreply 412/30/2020

Unpopular opinion, but I kind of secretly love that woobie lil emopunk Robby and feel he must be protected at all costs.

Would also be kind of adorable and forward-thinking if he hooked up with Miguel. They have a lot in common (poor street kids, absent fathers, bad history with karate, esteem problems), and Sam isn’t good for either of them, anyways...

by Anonymousreply 512/30/2020

So Terry Silver is definitely coming back, right?

Can’t wait to see the power-pony again. And to see Johnny’s reaction to the weird sexual tension Daniel has with Terry.

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by Anonymousreply 612/31/2020

At the half way mark and haven't been disappointed. There are veterans from the franchise who pop up in a few episodes. It's amazing how Macchio and Zabka relatively look the same and everyone else looked markedly aged.

by Anonymousreply 701/01/2021

Miguel has two daddies!

by Anonymousreply 801/01/2021

You could tell from the looks and subtle blocking that the lady at rehab totally assumed Daniel is Johnny’s husband. Daniel does not correct her, and even looked delighted by the assumption, and I love it.

Also, “our son” had me dead.

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by Anonymousreply 901/01/2021

When Johnny can’t figure out the speakerphone I pmsl. Bonus that he essentially stuck his face in Daniel’s lap.

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by Anonymousreply 1001/02/2021

Some nice eye candy this season.

by Anonymousreply 1101/02/2021

Just binged it. LOVED it. The reunions with Kumiko, Chozen and Ali were great. The Protmen's remake of Phil Collins's In The Air Tonight was the perfect way to close out the season.

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by Anonymousreply 1201/02/2021

All credit to the writers and actors for continuing to play up the Johnny/Daniel relationship, though more of that content and less Karate!Kids (TM) wouldn't hurt.

Johnny & Daniel had a couple serious confrontations this season, but the bitterness and mistrust and emnity they carried is falling away. More importantly, this time around they thought of each other. They looked out for each other. They saved each other. Daniel always fusses over Johnny like an overbearing partner (gets him food, worries for his health, fixes his clothes, chides his bad choices), while Johnny has proven that he will literally throw himself into harm's way (a very unequal fight, a prison yard brawl) if it means protecting Daniel from harm but will also listen to Daniel's advice and follow his lead when the situation calls for it.

From the OG films to every season of CK, it's a throughline that Johnny looks at Daniel for less than 5 seconds before that half-chewed piece of gum he calls his one braincell goes "I WANT THAT TWINK O B LIT ER ATE D but not before I fuck him with my eyes and make sure he can't focus on anyone else but me", then Daniel responds to that by searching Johnny's eyes back in hopeful trembling amorous intensity for a whole minute Vivien Leigh-style. It's so beautiful.

It's hard to understand by now why all the CK characters don't constantly aside to Johnny & Daniel, "yeah just. marry him and get it over with?". Amanda is the only one so far to point out their old-couple vibe, and we're already halfway through the entire series run. There was a funny moment where Robby came close in a scene this season; he walked in on his dad and Daniel arguing with their faces up close and whispering intently, and the kid just noped out like, "ugh, right in front of my salad? I'm gone".

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by Anonymousreply 1301/02/2021

Martin Kove's real son played the football guy who beats up young Kreese.

by Anonymousreply 1401/02/2021

Martin Kove was a porn actor in the 70s.

by Anonymousreply 1501/02/2021

I just binged watched all of season 3. Loved it

by Anonymousreply 1601/02/2021

Kreese's old army buddy is Terry Silver.

by Anonymousreply 1701/02/2021

The age difference is laughable.

by Anonymousreply 1801/02/2021

I saw the original film at the cinema when it was originally released. I've enjoyed all three seasons of CK. I love all the Easter Egg references to the original film. I love seeing the supporting characters (and even setting locations) pop up from time to time. And I loved the Season I and II cliffhangers. It's great how the young female characters get in on the action and kick some ass alongside the boys.

by Anonymousreply 1901/02/2021

[quote]Kreese's old army buddy is Terry Silver.

Thomas Ian Griffith was part of the Karate Kid / Cobra Kai Reunited at Home (19:59). He's a writer now. He was staff writer on NBC's GRIMM and he and his wife, actress Mary Page Keller, wrote "Dolly Parton's Heartstrings" TV movie.

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by Anonymousreply 2001/02/2021

Wow, who knew the DL would majority love a show! Never thought I'd see the day! I always thought the bitches of DL would find fault with the Karate Kid movie franchise, farless a spin off series.

Question the actor who died in 2019, I forgot his name, I don't think he was ever married and from what I remember reading about him, he was a big theatre actor. Was he gay?

by Anonymousreply 2101/02/2021

It could've been a beautiful love story between two mens who realize their unbridled passion for one another after being high school nemeses. But we get all this karate shit with kids.

by Anonymousreply 2201/02/2021

Netflix keeps pushing this show on me constantly why?

by Anonymousreply 2301/02/2021

This show is god awful, and yet I can't stop watching it.

by Anonymousreply 2401/02/2021

Season 3 was a little slower, but the theme was aftermath. The final battle scenes were good, but not quite as epic as the season 2 finale. There is great chemistry between Johnny and Daniel whenever they are on the screen together. Zabka is really the standout. He and Miguel's scenes are always really touching. Elizabeth Shu looks great for 57. It was a good, solid season and the cast is great.

by Anonymousreply 2501/02/2021

R18 it’s such a mindscrew to realise that, in THE KARATE KID PART III Thomas Ian Griffith (the actor who plays forty-something Terry Silver) is younger than Ralph Macchio (playing a nineteen/twenty-year old Daniel).

The age difference between Silver & Kreese is somewhat more plausible, though. The backstory is that Kreese & Silver served in the same platoon in ‘Nam; the Draft didn’t discriminate too much about age when it came to readiness and rank plus the whole operation was pretty thrown together, so I don’t think it’s a crazy notion that the two men could have fought together closely or that a very young Silver could have received a rank or distinction unusual for his level of experience.

What I do question is how and why Silver had to stay on the frontline for as long as Kreese, given his wealth. Perhaps he didn’t make all that money or ascend in the business world until after the War - it’s not made clear in KKIII.

Anyway, I’m looking forward to another attempt by Silver at seducing Daniel, if only to see Johnny get jealous and do something about it.

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by Anonymousreply 2601/02/2021

[quote] It could've been a beautiful love story between two mens who realize their unbridled passion for one another after being high school nemeses.

Subtextually it IS that. Or at least I’m watching it that way, as a gay person. According to the Internet reviews and comments I’ve read, others (hundreds, at least, maybe a few thousand) have noticed the same and read the story that way too. The actors all joke about it—Xolo & Mary have both made snapchats about it. Even the creator Hayden Schlossberg has acknowledged there is something going on with Daniel & Johnny’s relationship that is surprisingly intimate...

[quote] But we get all this karate shit with kids.

Yeah, I hate it too. This is the first season where I’ve learned to feel ok about forwarding past some of the more tedious or lengthy highschool scenes to get to the Karate DILF content. I missed like a quarter of the show and probably some decent acting by talented kids; but the fact is my attention is limited, time is precious and I just don’t care about Gen Z drama, sorry. I admit that I do always like and watch scenes with Demetri & Hawk/Eli, and I find their actors compelling and their story touching. Miguel is likeable and cool, and Robby is quite a refreshing character too if a bit too angsty and overpowered (I mean, almost punching his Dad out? Very Brandon @Tommy Lee...). It’s the Larusso kids (especially Anthony), the lesser Cobra/Miyagi-do kids, and Tory who reduce me to yawns.

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by Anonymousreply 2701/02/2021

[quote] It could've been a beautiful love story between two mens who realize their unbridled passion for one another after being high school nemeses.

Subtextually it IS that. Or at least I’m watching it that way, as a gay person. According to the Internet reviews and comments I’ve read, others (hundreds, at least, maybe a few thousand) have noticed the same and read the story that way too. The actors all joke about it—Xolo & Mary have both made snapchats about it. Even the creator Hayden Schlossberg has acknowledged there is something going on with Daniel & Johnny’s relationship that is surprisingly intimate...

[quote] But we get all this karate shit with kids.

Yeah, I hate it too. This is the first season where I’ve learned to feel ok about forwarding past some of the more tedious or lengthy highschool scenes to get to the Karate DILF content. I missed like a quarter of the show and probably some decent acting by talented kids; but the fact is my attention is limited, time is precious and I just don’t care about Gen Z drama, sorry. I admit that I do always like and watch scenes with Demetri & Hawk/Eli, and I find their actors compelling and their story touching. Miguel is likeable and cool, and Robby is quite a refreshing character too if a bit too angsty and overpowered (I mean, almost punching his Dad out? Very Brandon @Tommy Lee...). It’s the Larusso kids (especially Anthony), the lesser Cobra/Miyagi-do kids, and Tory who reduce me to yawns.

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by Anonymousreply 2801/02/2021

“You take me to the nicest places, Johnny Lawrence😍...” lmao Ralph. He gets it

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by Anonymousreply 2901/02/2021

I'm starting to think Kreese has a sexual obsession with Johnny.

by Anonymousreply 3001/02/2021

These 2 also think Daniel and Johnny’s relationship is homoerotic.

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by Anonymousreply 3101/03/2021

R30 safe to say that regardless of sex or orientation, basically everyone is sexually obsessed with Johnny Lawrence.

Kreese does seem to lovebomb and flirt with his protégé a little too much for comfort, though. It must be a Cobra method: Silver did the same to Daniel.

by Anonymousreply 3201/03/2021

legendary that kumiko — on realising the married guy she once kissed 30 years ago is coming onto her — texts his arch nemesis under the table to come over and show him around town and then she peaces out of the entire exercise by saying she has some “errands” to run. queen shit

then by contrast theres the fact that a 70 something year old man with ptsd can’t possibly fathom operating a karate dojo without a cardboard cutout version of himself

by Anonymousreply 3301/03/2021

[quote] amazing how Macchio and Zabka relatively look the same and everyone else looked markedly aged.

Macchio will look like he’s in his sixties when he dies in his nineties. Olive oil DNA.

Zabka is just one of thos naturally hot folks who kept assiduously in shape.

by Anonymousreply 3401/03/2021

His nipples looked very lickable when he was lying in bed with Carmen.

by Anonymousreply 3501/03/2021

R31 lol “Miyagi? Daniel & Chozen are in the same drag family”

by Anonymousreply 3601/03/2021

Loved the scene where Johnny pulls out those 80s himbo pictures of himself to show Miguel, which were essentially just shirtless promo shots of Zabka from back in the day. In one of them, he had the really ripped body that he sported in “Back To School.”

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by Anonymousreply 3701/03/2021

[quote] Elizabeth Shu

Shue, with an “e.”

by Anonymousreply 3801/03/2021

William was only 18 and the youngest of the Karate Kid cast while Ralph was 22 or 23.

by Anonymousreply 3901/03/2021

What is DL's consensus on Zabka? But of a religious freak married late in life...

by Anonymousreply 4001/03/2021

Billy Z was so hot in Back to School. That long hair looked great on him.

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by Anonymousreply 4101/03/2021

He played an asshole in EVERYTHING. Just One of the Guys, Karate Kid, Back to School, Nat’l Lampoon’s European Vacation, and even that episode of Gimme A Break where he briefly dated Samantha only to leave her stranded on a beach with no money.

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by Anonymousreply 4201/03/2021

Do we think that DL fave Joey Lawrence can have the same kind of career resurgence that Zabka has had?

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by Anonymousreply 4301/03/2021

The show could be called The Hollywood Bowl Cut.

by Anonymousreply 4401/03/2021

[quote] that episode of Gimme A Break where he briefly dated Samantha only to leave her stranded on a beach with no money.

hahahahaha I forgot all about that

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by Anonymousreply 4501/03/2021

R40 I too think that is kind of suspect. A ‘straight’ man who is that staggeringly hot and fit yet without a trail of broken women and illegitimate kids behind him? Something’s not quite right there.

He basically a nothing-Lister for about thirty years, so he could have gotten away with being quietly gay and using an alias with no one the wiser.

by Anonymousreply 4601/03/2021

[quote]Loved the scene where Johnny pulls out those 80s himbo pictures of himself to show Miguel, which were essentially just shirtless promo shots of Zabka from back in the day.

The meta beats and self awareness of the show adds to the humor. I laughed at that scene and the scene in the first episode at the school meeting and someone shouted out that they heard Daneil was the real bully; something fans have been saying for years.

by Anonymousreply 4701/03/2021

You know, I'm not here for the hetero people, but even my cold dark black gay soul has to admit that Johnny & Ali's reunion and near-kiss was sweet.

Daniel is still the one meant for Johnny, of course, but it was a cute moment. That scene made both actors look they were eighteen again, just for a second. Lizzy Shue is still very beautiful.

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by Anonymousreply 4801/03/2021

[quote]Martin Kove's real son played the football guy who beats up young Kreese.

Macchio only gave his son a background scene.

His son looks damn near older than Macchio.

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by Anonymousreply 4901/03/2021

R39 what blows my mind is that Ralph was a married man in the two KARATE KID sequels he did. Playing as Daniel in KK Pt. III, he was thirty years old and had a kid.

I remember laughing over the trivia that Ralph's legit wife vetoed any romantic angle for Daniel-san in Pt. III, because she was jealous and it made her upset. Guess the COBRA KAI money changed her tune on that...

by Anonymousreply 5001/03/2021

R49 not sure where/when I read or saw this so don't take it as fact, but I seem to remember something about Ralph's son having minor learning difficulties and/or some kind of mild functional personality disorder.

His daughter Julia is (or was?) a professional dancer and a musical theater performer. She must have gotten the stage-bug and her looks from Ralph; in fact, she is the spitting image of Daddy. All this considered and the fact that they're Italians, it's a safe bet she's the favorite. Wonder why she hasn't appeared in CK yet?

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by Anonymousreply 5101/03/2021

R49 not sure where/when I read or saw this so don't take it as fact, but I seem to remember something about Ralph's son having minor learning difficulties and/or some kind of mild functional personality disorder.

His daughter Julia is (or was?) a professional dancer and a musical theater performer. She must have gotten the stage-bug and her looks from Ralph; in fact, she is the spitting image of Daddy. All this considered and the fact that they're Italians, it's a safe bet she's the favorite. Wonder why she hasn't appeared in CK yet?

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by Anonymousreply 5201/03/2021

[quote] Wonder why she hasn't appeared in CK yet?

She could play young Ralph in flashbacks.

by Anonymousreply 5301/03/2021

Does Ralph have a Andy milonakis type diease? I think he said in an interview that he started puberty when he turned 30 which makes sense since his 2 kids were born in the 90’s.

by Anonymousreply 5401/03/2021

Hawk is fine asf

by Anonymousreply 5501/03/2021

Ralphs eyelift and hair piece (which is better this season), make him look older to me than Zabka. Johnny is just one of those rare guys who was a total pretty boy but grew into a rugged, natural looking hunk, even in his mid 50's.

by Anonymousreply 5601/03/2021

That’s no hairpiece.

by Anonymousreply 5701/04/2021

R55 = Bryan Singer

by Anonymousreply 5801/04/2021

Lmao R58. But the actor who plays Hawk is twenty by now, and according to his wiki birthdate he’ll turn 21 in March. Have it at, elders!

This show is missing a golden opportunity to make Hawk/Demetri a babygay couple. It’s the perfect setup; they’re former best friends, in rival dojo, with totally opposite personalities and philosophies to conflict resolution. Actual m/m content could be fangirl bait supreme and is key to get more gay eyes on the product. Instead all we have is invisible bi-girl Moon, and jokes about DILF bromance.

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by Anonymousreply 5901/04/2021

Miguel!

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by Anonymousreply 6001/04/2021

Gross

by Anonymousreply 6101/04/2021

[quote]Miguel!

Damn, what a glow up.

by Anonymousreply 6201/04/2021

Hawk is well of age. Almost 21.

by Anonymousreply 6301/04/2021

Miguel was never that cute but no, no, no. He’s fug now.

by Anonymousreply 6401/04/2021

Looks real good to me.

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by Anonymousreply 6501/04/2021

Eeek at Miguel.

Hawk is sexy. There’s no denying. Is the actor gay?

by Anonymousreply 6601/04/2021

Gianni Decenzo seems gay to me and I find him cute, but apparently he's a nerdy straight a la Bill Hader. Sad waste.

Wish they'd make Demetri gay, at least.

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by Anonymousreply 6701/05/2021

Interesting that in the make-up scene between Demetri & Hawk, the two characters are wearing outfits that allude to those of Daniel & Johnny in the original movie; Demetri has a yellow-check plaid like a shirt Daniel wears to school, and Hawk is wearing a red moto jacket like Johnny.

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by Anonymousreply 6801/05/2021

R67, I love Cobra Kai but the romance is obviously geared towards the hetro male fantasies , since they moved to netflix the show will prob put a hot lesbian /pan character in there for s4 or bring aisha back. I doubt we will get a gay character I don’t think they want to disappoint their straight male fans.

by Anonymousreply 6901/05/2021

There were pictures of Jacob with his girlfriend on Instagram.

And Bill Hader is a closet case according to someone here on DL with reliable sources, so there's hope R67.

by Anonymousreply 7001/05/2021

I’d rather Jacob be the closet case than Gianni though I agree he is nerdy cute.

It’s a really good show. Very solid. But it’s very straight male in every way. You just know instead of saying “pussy” every other word they want to say “fag”. It’s not believable that out of the misfits from CC, none are gay.

by Anonymousreply 7101/05/2021

Miguel is good looking, but looks so different in real life than his character. Miguel in CK has such an aura of innocence, but IRL looks like he is a member of a columbian cartel. He looks a little bit like Carlos Leon.

by Anonymousreply 7201/05/2021

Feel like such a sleaze for finding the flashback with Kreese & Silver in 'Nam both touching and sexy.

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by Anonymousreply 7301/07/2021

R37 lmao most of Zabka's career has hinged on him looking like a fat slice of WASPy cheesecake

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by Anonymousreply 7401/07/2021

^^^^^

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by Anonymousreply 7501/07/2021

An opportunity was missed because Macchio isn't gay.

He could have had a thirty-year career as a fierce femme twink with some class.

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by Anonymousreply 7601/07/2021

While I appreciate how reverent CK is to the source material, and how the writing has remained rich and full of twists, I do worry that with seasonal progression the series is becoming too dark and too sterile, losing track of what it is and how it began.

Season One did so well because it was sharp, bright, and wickedly funny with occasional little jabs of seriousness or drops of sweetness. Overall, it was a clear dramedy, with a focused premise and heavy on the dialogue-based humour and conflict. In Season Three, the picture feels quite different--the waters are muddy, much of the character exchange takes place in wordless fight scenes, while the bite and bonhomie have faded. Perhaps this is all quite natural a drift for a longrunner, but to me it feels like there is a danger of CK becoming too po-faced.

Half the joy in the first two seasons was delighting in how out-of-touch, juvenile, and just plain rude our favorite himbo Johnny is. I get that he's going through a lot in the show this year, and that having one kid in prison and the other almost disabled is no laughing matter, but Johnny is still the same dude and people don't love him for his suffering.

I guess what I'm saying is, I hope there's light at the end of the tunnel, and that the heavy #THEMES are counterbalanced by some more zippy comedy next time around. This ain't Chekhov, we don't need to cry bitter tears twice every episode. Even the final scene of Season Three, meant to be triumphant and heartwarming. still felt ominous and uncomfortable thanks to the looming threat that all these highschoolers may potentially get maimed fighting the deranged little soldiers of a PTSD case because their fifty-something mentors asked them to. The cover of 'In The Air Tonight' playing out the finale was cool and sounded great, but also gave a weirdly menacing overtone--it made it seem like the Johnny/Daniel truce was already rotting apart with suspicion, when they hadn't even started down their path as partners yet.

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by Anonymousreply 7701/08/2021

Knowing all that we know now from CK, it's way more revealing and intriguing watching the rehearsal shoots of the original KK movie.

The tension between Daniel & Johnny comes across as a hundred times more gay, for one thing. Every gayling here stared across the street or the schoolyard or playing field at the beautiful jock in their highschool in the same way...unless you "were" the beautiful jock, of course.

Also, the actress who plays Lucille could not look more like Macchio. It’s eerie.

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by Anonymousreply 7801/08/2021

the B in Bromance are actually sunglasses so if u remove them it’s a lot more serious

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by Anonymousreply 7901/09/2021

I'm on ep 2. Are they trying to soften Kreese up a bit being a defender of damsels in distress?

by Anonymousreply 8001/10/2021

Seasons 1 and 2 were definitely going for a woke feel. The most fun came from watching Johnny's outdated 1980s attitude clash with the social justice warrior attitudes of his teen students. There was lots of diversity in the cast. The only thing they shied away from was having a gay character.

Season 3 was disappointing. Still no gay characters, and I heard the slur "penisbreath" a couple of times. Jeez, is that graphic slur really any better than the F word?

by Anonymousreply 8101/10/2021

I still enjoyed Season 3, but enjoyed it a bit less than the first two, and can't put my finger on why.

The scene with Daniel and Sam kayaking on that massive lake, with trees showing autumn foliage, brought home to me how while the show is supposed to take place in the SF Valley, it's definitely filmed outside of Southern California.

by Anonymousreply 8201/11/2021

Hawk needs to fuck me now.

by Anonymousreply 83Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM

[quote] The only thing they shied away from was having a gay character.

Hawk's ex-girlfriend "Moon" ended up being a lesbian but otherwise no gay male characters.

Also I don't get it when people comment on a "woke" feel when the show is doing a pretty good job at presenting the variety of people that would live in that area in real life.

by Anonymousreply 84Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM

They should make Hawk gay and partner him up with that other boy with the Russian name.

by Anonymousreply 85Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM

R85 there are hundreds of kids watching the show and posting on Tumblr who think the same thing. Some of them have even tweeted the writers to ask if that is a possibility.

The characters have more chemistry with each other than with their girlfriends, and more than any of the main ‘canon’ hetero couples like Sam & Miguel/Robby or Johnny & Carmen. It’s established that they have been best friends for about ten years (the type to have biweekly sleepovers...), so there is a lot of emotional intimacy there between them already. Demetri’s pursuit of Yasmine seems so forced and awkward as if it’s for show, while Hawk was upset for a couple of hours tops when Moon dumped him then totally forgot about it (when Demetri approached him, no less). If any of the established new main characters are to be a gay couple, it makes perfect sense to use Eli & Demetri.

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by Anonymousreply 86Last Thursday at 2:03 AM

A MALE same sex hookup will never happen on this show

The fan base is extremely anti gay male

I've actually thought about leaving a fan group because of it, and I'm FAR from an SJW

And it's pretty bad when lesbian/bisexual girls are threatening to leave the group because of the homophobia towards gay men , not lesbians of course because everyone loves lesbians, straight people really don't have a problem with them

And yet these SAME homophobes will post pictures of how hot the teen actresses are or show pictures of the two girls kissing screen cap as being "hot', the hypocrisy is amazing, you really can't make this shit up

Also by posting those pictures, straight men are promoting the very "gay shit" they hate on there, it's two women but it's still "gay shit", if you want to be homophobic, he homophobic across the board, don't make it worse by pushing lesbianism

Fucking hypocrite small dick fucks

by Anonymousreply 87Last Friday at 3:13 AM

The creators of Cobra Kai are very aware of the “Lawrusso”ship and have interacted with the fans on twitter the straight males fans might be disgusted if they find out. Conra Kai s3 was incredibly hyped with tona of promotions but it didnt do as well as Bridgeton or the Queen’s gambits and there are already several articles calling them out on the show for being all white.

by Anonymousreply 88Last Friday at 3:44 AM

R88 it's not all white, Italians weren't considered white for years, Miguel, the MAIN younger character and his Mom Carmen, aren't white

I've noticed on Facebook most of the homophobia and anti gay male bullshit, is by younger Latino, many of whom live outside the US, men. The fan base would NOT be cool at all with ANY gay male representation, they wouldn't be able to handle it. Lesbians are loved, hell people post about Hawk fucking Demitri's Mom and how awesome that would be, so sex with the underage is fine!

Just NO gay male shit

They've stated their boundaries!

by Anonymousreply 89Last Friday at 3:50 AM

r88 Just greenlight a spin off with King Vader. That dream episode sequence is about as urban as we're going to get.

That being said the show is diverse, but all the minorities are side characters except for Miguel. Which is the price to pay when you do a sequel based off a movie in the 80s which was a time when whiteness dominated cinema and tv.

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by Anonymousreply 90Last Friday at 4:50 AM

[quote] hell people post about Hawk fucking Demitri's Mom

What?!!! Ugh🤢

Given how much time in childhood Eli/Hawk is said to have spent over at Demetri’s family home, it’s safe to say that Demetri’s mother is effectively a second mother to Eli/Hawk as well. Making this idea pseudo-incestual.

But hey, anything but real homosexuality, right?

by Anonymousreply 91Last Friday at 5:25 AM

in actuality at least ONE of those kids at either Dojo would be gay, he would go to get tough to fight the bullies

But apparently, if a gay male character is introduced, they're being "woke" and are part of the "liberal agenda"

Those same fucks are pushing female/female kissing and are hoping Tori and Sam hook up

But isn't that the "gay agenda" too?

Aren't you promoting a "perverted lifestyle" yourself?

Straight men are the last to understand the hypocrisy and irony of it all. There are straight guys who still Swear that lesbians are simply here to titillate straight men, for their pleasure

Do these straight guys realize that if 90% of lesbians would get away with it, they would kill straight guys,since so many hate them and want NOTHING to do with them?

by Anonymousreply 92Last Friday at 8:49 AM

R92 *applause*

If Tory was/is a babydyke, you just know she’ll quickly become one of those misandrist ones. And given the way she’s been treated by Kreese, by her absent father, and by the patriarchal educational-medical establishment, I wouldn’t fucking blame her.

As for Sam? Well, her Dad seems gay, so maybe it’s genetic. Considering the needless trouble she gets into with guys, dating a girl may be a better option for her. Of course, if the show went that route they’d instantly take away all the character’s agency and abilities to fight, give her an equally-femme gf, and put her in tighter skimpier outfits, so she could be the right level of stupid helpless ditz to drool over for the dudes watching this....

This has me wondering if the handling of gay-lesbian issues was one of the reasons the actress for the character Aisha left. This is pure speculation on my part, and I don’t know whether the actress is lesbian (she seems like it, but I won’t assume), but tbh the way the character was written came across like the stereotypical coded Fat Black Softbutch Dyke trope. My theory is that either a) the writers/producers were pushing for Aisha to be the Token Fat Black Dyke for Wokeness points, and the actress would have none of it for whatever reason (not necessarily homophobia—maybe that it was poorly written, or she didn’t agree with tokenism, or they were going a T direction), or; the converse, b) that the actress wanted Aisha to be openly lesbian and have a coming-out/Gay romance arc on the show, and the writers would have none of it because Fat Black Dykes don’t draw with general/global heteroaudiences and aren’t considered appealing by the straight bros & Moms that watch this with their crotchfruit.

Now we’re talking about it, ticks me off that there isn’t a single main character in CK who is openly guy and proudly stereotypical, I.e. a butch lesbian or a femme gay man. The BAME viewers are complaining, but at least they have a granule of representation, albeit too little and neutral/negative.

by Anonymousreply 93Last Friday at 9:17 AM

[quote]This has me wondering if the handling of gay-lesbian issues was one of the reasons the actress for the character Aisha left.

She said they told her they wrote her off because they couldn't find a place for her in the scripts.

The show said they intend to write characters off and bring them back occasionally and that not every actor has to be in every season.

Aisha was the only friend Sam had that was a woman who wasn't trying to beat her up. It made zero sense to completely get rid of her.

Although getting Elisabeth Shue in, keeping Martin Kove around and actually filming in Okinawa probably wasn't cheap so maybe I answered my own questions.

by Anonymousreply 94Last Friday at 10:00 AM

I always thought Aisha was a lesbian character they just didn't explore it. And now that the character was "put on the bus" there are no potential characters that are homosexual without the transition being awful because there were no hints or buildup for it in the previous seasons.

Honestly if they do a gay character it will have to be a new character introduced. Maybe that will happen in season 4 as Netflix produced shows tend to have a token gay character and season 4 is the season Netflix money is used for production.

by Anonymousreply 95Last Friday at 10:09 AM

[quote] The fan base would NOT be cool at all with ANY gay male representation, they wouldn't be able to handle it. Lesbians are loved,

Well that's disappointing to hear. I thought this younger generation of kids was more evolved beyond that tired "2 girls = hot, 2 guys = gross" trope. Because that's some late '90s/early '00s bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 96Last Friday at 10:13 AM

They couldn't find a place for her in the scripts? Sounds like PR bullshit. They basically replaced her with the fat boy this season. Her personal life seems fucked up. She started a GoFundMe because hey boyfriend got a DUI and crashed her car.

by Anonymousreply 97Last Friday at 10:25 AM

R96; you're joking right?

That's all you hear on social media

Even are more comfortable seeing two girls on love, women don't want to see two hot guys because they feel like they would have to compete, even though according to a recent Cosmopolitan survey, nearly 70% of women surveyed (and remember Cosmo skews more liberal women), said they would never date a guy who was with a guy even ONCE .Crazy.

Gay men get homophobia on all ends and we're not even allowed to talk about it because just us talking about upsets the hets

by Anonymousreply 98Last Friday at 10:41 AM

[quote]She said they told her they wrote her off because they couldn't find a place for her in the scripts.

No one missed Daniel's annoying ass son who was also absent this season.

by Anonymousreply 99Last Friday at 10:44 AM

He was in an episode. He hit a growth spurt and dropped 100lbs.

by Anonymousreply 100Last Friday at 10:49 AM

[quote]I thought this younger generation of kids was more evolved beyond that tired "2 girls = hot, 2 guys = gross" trope. Because that's some late '90s/early '00s bullshit.

They are but 1. it's still not as many as there should be and 2. shows like this, comic book shows and science fiction has always lagged behind when it comes to gay male representation.

They're fine with two women making out but if it's two men then suddenly someone has a problem.

Every time I hear a character is going to come out as gay on one of those shows I just know it's going to end up being a woman.

As horrible as a person as Joss Whedon turned out to be personally, I always respected his stance that he, doesn't "give the audience what they want" he "gives the audience what they need" in reference to dealing with his characters.

Cobra Kai could easily reveal that one of the guys on the show is gay and not care if their fans pitch a hissy fit about it. They just won't do it.

by Anonymousreply 101Last Friday at 12:37 PM

So who do we think the gay character(s) will actually end up being, then? The writers & showrunners have liked and shared fan questions that petition for LGBT inclusion, and this is on Netflix, so presumably there will have to be something more than a kiss without tongue between teen girl background characters. . While I want it to be Eli & Demetri, I know it won't be. If by some miracle a male is chosen for the gay reveal, I could see the show picking a pointless NPC character for a little one-episode exploration; say Anoush or Stingray, or Mitch or Bert for the kids. It's more likely to be a girl/woman, though, and of course not a main character (knocking out Tory & Sam), so it's got to be either a new girl (maybe a Millennial ex of Johnny's who shows up, or the lady who runs the yoga classes next to the dojo?), or one of those other mean-girl bitches at the school who isn't Moon. It would be so fucking funny if Amanda left Daniel for a woman (I sensed some chemistry between her & Ali....), but can life really be that good?

by Anonymousreply 10220 hours ago

It's going to be a new character. But in case they don't want to do that they'll either give me screen time to Moon and her girlfriend or find a way to make Tori or Aisha bisexual(since they're the two butch female characters on the show).

by Anonymousreply 10317 hours ago

[quote] So who do we think the gay character(s) will actually end up being, then?

Miguel and Robby, lol. Now how is that for a twist?

by Anonymousreply 10417 hours ago
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