Assumptions you make about people based on the car they drive

No car equals homeless.

Tesla = sheep who will believe any corporate greenwashing propaganda whether it's true or not

Prius = the same with half as much money

Ferrari = rich boomer with penis envy

Corvette = upper middle class boomer with penis envy

Camaro = lower middle class boomer with penis envy

Mustang = basic bitch, or the sort of man who ends up marrying them

Any American luxury sedan: old geezer waiting to die

Volvo = old money, probably has an Ivy league degree in art history (especially if it's a beater)

Subaru = the same degree from a lesser college

Miata: GURRRRLLLLLLLL!!

Pickup truck: cousin fucker, contractor or cousin-fucking contractor

This is already boring.

[quote]Pickup truck: cousin fucker, contractor or cousin-fucking contractor

Or tiny dick trying to compensate.

SUV - Aggressive Karen

Motorcycle - desperate to seem cool and attention seeker.

R7 drives a Kia

Any minivan = frau

Any non-electric "economy" car = loser or first-time driver/car owner

[quote]Any non-electric "economy" car = loser or first-time driver/car owner

What do complete morons drive, R12? You should know.

Hummer = new money who is spending it like an idiot and will soon be irrelevant.

Kia = usually a nurse who is practical and wants to save her money. Maybe a bit overweight.

Cadillac Escalade = flashy and predictable.

Nissan (all models) = sane and non-issue people.

Porsche = trying to impress.

Mercedes SUV = yoga frau or idiot stuck in a lease.

R13 lost his license for trying to run over an old lady with a walker in a MAGA hat.

R15, where I live, I'd have gotten a reward for that. You're still a moron.

Audi = Asshole

Spoken like the proud owner of one of those gas-guzzling terrorist-enriching losermobiles, R16.

Used Mercedes: sucker.

Absolutely anyone anywhere driving a non-electric car at any time for any reason = terrorist

Not sure why but I always assume that anyone under 45 driving an Acura has a bad case of herpes and had really bad taste in their 20s, like listening to heavy metal & wearing Affliction tshirts.

Trans Am: Redneck

Model T: Absent-minded professor

VW Beetle: former MKULTRA test subject unable to cope with any aspect of post-Vietnam War American life and culture

El Camino: Illegal immigrant

Ford Thunderbird: Erin Gray

Chrysler Cordoba: Ricardo Montalban

Ford Bronco: O.J. Simpson

Honda civic - korean

Do me...

I have an 05 RAV4 and a 13 Camry SE

Old Prius — well invested

R18 seems to have lost the thread of his own comments.

r23 is really an eldergay, the most current of that group hasn't been made in 20 years

r24= middle class housewife... You asked ;-)

[quote][R15], where I live, I'd have gotten a reward for that.

You live in a place where they reward violence against women? Where is that, Iran?

Good looking woman driving a hyper-expensive exotic sports car = can suck a golfball through a garden hose.

[quote]Subaru = the same degree from a lesser college

Not that they're mutually exclusive, but the usual stereotype is:

Subaru=Lesbian

Tesla: new money garbage.

Some of these are ridiculous. I had a BMW 325i for 17 years. I kept it up and it drove like a champ.

Trans Am: Will work "am trans" into any conversation.

R32 the new ones are crap compared to what you had. You had the real deal from BMW. The same can be said or Mercedes. Anything from 2000 on has been subpar.

Dl'er

R19 The real sucker is buying a new Mercedes. Yikes. Guess that would be me.

Go ahead and roast me. I don't care.

[quote] No car equals homeless.

As a New Yorker, I'd love to have you up to my high rise apartment overlooking the glittering city to discuss this over cocktails and dinner on the terrace. But you'll have to take a cab from the airport as I have no car with which to pick you up.

Jeep Wrangler = asshole

[quote]You had the real deal from BMW. The same can be said or Mercedes. Anything from 2000 on has been subpar.

That is not true. I have a 2014 BMW that was made in Germany (not an SUV made in South Carolina) and it is absolutely pristine and runs perfectly.

Cadillac or Lincoln = Elderly boomer who still thinks this is the ultimate in prestige.

(Exception: a young Mexican who's pimped out an older Caddy and made it into a prestige car in the hood)

VW Golf: absolutely nothing.

“Do me...

I have an 05 RAV4 and a 13 Camry SE”

Frugal, practical, - afraid to live outside your comfort zone. Don’t take chances, but have a stable somewhat satisfactory life. You either hoard money or wish you made more. Likely not a good tipper. Introvert.

Dodge Ram Truck = top

"Pink Mary Kay Cadillac" = Pays to post on Datalounge.

R36 a turbocharged engine isn’t the same as a silky smooth naturally aspirated inline 6 that BMWs were famous for. Gone is the ultimate driving experience too, other brands do that better now. You should get behind the wheel of a real BMW one day and tell me it’s not fun to drive.

Hyundai = Big dick. (Not really, but I can use the publicity)

Lol, R46. You should have specified the color (i.e., a red Hyundai or whatever color your car is).

By far Mercedes Benz - more the dirvers. I've seen and experienced more grief caused by those drivers. My new car a Chevrolet for crying out loud had a dent in the rear passenger door compliment of a C-Class Benz.

@r45, the finest car I ever owned was a 2001 BMW 530i with the inline 6. That car drove like a hot knife through butter. To me that was peak BMW, they've never been as good since :(

Interesting, 48. On 2 different occasions where a car hit or dented into me it was from a Mercedes. I never thought about the connection until now.

corvette = straight, mid-life crisis, obese, comb-over, divorced, tasteless, small dick

This sums it up nicely

Porsche Cayenne

All the good people I know drive a Honda, myself included. I live in Texas where a car is an absolute necessity. A Honda is reliable, economical, and reasonably priced. If you drive anything else you’re a fucking idiot wasting your money on a status symbol no one cares about except maybe a 16 year old boy. My car hasn’t needed anything except oil changes and a tire for 4 straight years. My friend’s BMW is in the mechanic shop every 3 months.

The only car brands that have negative associations for me are BMW, Lincoln and Cadillac.

'70s - '80s Cadillac El Dorado = pimp

Corvettes and Pickups: MAGA douchbags. They are usually rude, aggressive drivers.

R49 yes!! The E39 5 series and E38 7 series were peak BMW. So hard to find in mint condition anymore.

Tesla -. Fucking asshole

I feel pity for people who have to drive a Hyundai or Kia.

I live in Texas and I’m sick of all these fraus who wear yoga pants all day. They all drive huge Chevy Tahoes or Suburbans., taking their lazy entitled kids to private school and their lazy asses to the nail salon.

Mercury Bobcat Hatchback = Florist

Buick - 70 year old man or woman who never get over 45 MPH.

Pickup truck is big dick small brain. Good for sex, bad for decision making.

Black or white SUV means TOTAL CONTROLLING CUNT with kids.

Range Rover - douche bag asshole.

Depends on the truck r64. I have found that there is an inverse relationship between the size and gaudiness of the truck and size of the penis.

Oh no, R36

Brand new is fine as you still have a warranty and probably got the service package. It is buying the used one where all that is not covered and the warranty expired that makes for a sucker.

Why on earth would anyone even want to drive?

Subaru - lesbo or nice, granola folks who have gardens and go to state parks.

Old pickup truck with visible rust over the back wheel well = serial killer.

I don’t really judge people on their choice of cars because sometimes they have zero choice in what they drive. Other times like me, they just want reliable cars that get them from point A to point B without having to spend shitloads of money in upkeep and repairs. I drove a Volvo for years but the upkeep was ridiculous after 5 years because everything that potentially needed replacement or repairs ended up becoming reality. So I went back to Toyota and my bank account thanks me.

The higher the vehicle the lower the owners IQ. 'Lifted ' vehicles of any kind, especially trucks with tires too large for their wheel bases and could flip if not handled properly. I don't get people who have a reasonable vehicle and outfit it in such a way that ranges from garish to dangerously stupid.

R71 I still drive an older Volvo, their bodies are one of few who can seemingly handle the newer potassium based road de-icers used where I live. I quite honestly wish that it were banned bc of the way it just eats the roads here, and it's much worse on the body of a car.

Porsche=douchebag

Honda. Just get me from point A to point B without any drama.

Hondas always seem to rust easily. Anyone else notice this? I’ve seen so many Hondas that are less than 5 years old with rust all over the edges.

[quote]I feel pity for people who have to drive a Hyundai or Kia.

Are you posting from 1990?

Lexus - condescending to service workers. Fast food workers and restaurants servers (pre-covid) almost always "punish" their food.

Honda and Ford can’t figure out how to keep the fucking paint on their cars past 10 years!

4 door Chevy Malibu-

Assuming you even notice me and what I'm driving, you'll see just another car in the crowd, as inconspicuous as can be, and you can assume, correctly, I don't want it, or, need it, to be any other way.

And it's fully paid for, insured, oil changes made regularly.

I'll drive it until my mechanic refuses to fix it for me anymore and tells me to take it out of its misery and shoot it as he said with my last 4 door sedan.

R72 I drove a 2008 Volvo S60 which I had purchased new. I missed out on the old Volvo cars of lore which were known for reliability. Almost everyone that I know who had newer Volvos has had problems with reliability and huge repair bills once warranty ended.

Audi - asshole with a micropenis. Also huge repair bills.

1969 Ford Bronco - hot sexy boy I want to blow.

Volvo: boring old yuppies

R80 you want to avoid Volvos made in the early/mid-2000s, when Ford bought them out--the quality went to shit during that period and most of them had numerous electrical and/or transmission problem.I had a 1997 850 (one of the last "older" ones when they were still made in Sweden) and loved that car. The newer Volvos post-2010 are solid now that Ford isn't at the helm.

R48, but a C-class Mercedes is for people who can't afford a real one.

That a neighbor is a Datalounger:

I drive a long bed, super V8 Toyota Tundra & own a new model Enclave. My partner has Ford F250 long bed, older model. The trucks are needed for farm/business.

We are not lesbians or rednecks.

I haven’t seen my car mentioned.

What assumptions do you make about me based on my smartfortwo passion?

R85 Seriously, does something like the variance of class between model cars actually have any measure of significance?

^death wish

When they remove the model number from the back of their BWM: A stupid twat who thinks he is fooling everyone into thinking he didn't buy the cheapest model.

[quote]You either hoard money or wish you made more. Likely not a good tipper. Introvert.

I spend it as quickly as I make it. Definitely wish I made more. Always tip at least 20+%. Never really considered myself an introvert.

My first car was an 89 Celica that I bought in 96 with only 20K miles on it. Over the next 3 years I put over 150,000 miles on it with no trouble at all.

The only non Toyota I ever owned was an 04 VW Passat. Worst mistake I ever made. Constantly in the shop and had to dump it when the engine basically started eating itself and throwing metal shavings into the oil system.

Went back to Toyota and never had any problems.

I drive a MINI Countryman. I want to hear my archetype!

R93 Are you a Hobbit?

r79 - When I was younger, I drove a Ford Contour. I got it off lease and kept it until 200K with no problems. I mention it because at the time I had a "side gig" (not a term used back then) transporting some packages long distances which, if found by the police, would cause me a considerable inconvenience. It had wheel covers, cloth interior and am/fm cassette. So I was quite the inconspicuous white guy. However, it had a pretty nice 6 under the hood with a low curb weight. I usually made good time in it. It is still sold in europe as a Mondeo.

Sounds like my kinda car, r95. Your use for it truly was, shall we say, utilitarian.

R95 - can I buy some weed?

R88, I assume you will never get on the highway in that thing; perfect for puddling around town though.

R89, yes, as much as any of the other assumptions made on here.

Hates Dalmatians.

Lincoln = target practice

Anybody who drives a so-called economy car that isn’t a hybrid is not just a loser, but an enabler of climate change and terrorism. Gavin Newsom should be pushing up the ban on gas powered vehicles to now. Right fucking now. Anyone who doesn’t drive an electric car is a fucking terrorist and should be waterboarded like one.

Anyone who calls electric car drivers assholes is a deplorable, deplorables are Nazis, and Nazis are for punching.

All American cars are for racist nativist hicks at this point.

Tesla was subsidized by taxpayers to make EVs. They could never turn a profit otherwise. Yes, wealthy people getting HUGE tax breaks as usual!

i drive a chevy silverado truck, what does that make me? laugh.....

i didn't buy it, i was given it by my late parent... i do like the feeling of space and being high up.....

[quote] Do me... I have an 05 RAV4 and a 13 Camry SE

R24, you're either a woman or a short man (RAV, which is somewhat mini-sized). You're also middle-aged or older (Camry). Otherwise, your parents gave you the Camry when they bought a new ... Camry.

[quote] Hondas always seem to rust easily. Anyone else notice this? I’ve seen so many Hondas that are less than 5 years old with rust all over the edges.

R75, I had a Honda that I bought used, so, I don't know exactly what happened to it before I owned it. Anyway, it started out (used) with a little rust near the gas-fill opening (that little door). It was parked in a garage for a few years and the rust traveled no further. Then, I moved, took my Honda with me, and had to park outdoors. At that point, the rust started developing in a couple different places.

When I had my used Honda, about three different mechanics (not dealerships) worked on it. All my mechanics drove Toyota trucks.

A long time ago, I got into a freeway, chain-reaction, multi-car accident. I was driving my mom's car, an Acura. The car behind me that crashed into me was a Dodge Aries K. As soon as I saw that K car, my heart sank. I knew he had no insurance and I was correct - no insurance.

R109 that’s funny you mention this because it’s both a cliché and fact. Mechanics seem to drive s lot of Toyotas.

R107 a RAV4 is only mini-sized to your average obese American all hepped up on big gulps and Cheetos. Also, you’re a douchebag.

Absolutely anyone anywhere driving a non-electric car at any time for any reason = terrorist

R20 = unemployed, overweight weed smoker. Please refer to him as they.

R108.. hondas are NOTORIOUS for rusting and usually (i was told by a mechanic) at the rear outside bottom of the car both sides.. i know this happened to me when i had a honda crv... don't know why this is the case though..

The Honda rust thing is unknown to me, as a 2009 Honda Civic owner. Hell, I’ve even driven it on the sandy beach here in Texas. Not a bit of rust yet.

R115, because you live in Texas. It's winters and road salt that kill cars when it comes to rust.

[quote]Lincoln = target practice

Ditto.

Mini Coopers: people who want a small car but also want people to think they have money, so they buy the most expensive small car on the market.

Minicoopers are pretty cheap.

R119 is right—for whatever reason, I was long under the impression that Mini Coopers were in the same price range as something like a Volvo or an Audi, but they're not. You can buy them brand new off the lot for around the same price as most Ford sedans.

R120 Mini Coopers cost a great deal more than any other subcompact. It's not even close. Comparing them to Audis and Volvos indicates you are not a cheap car buyer.

R121 I just did some looking around online, and I guess you're right. I've never owned/been interested in owning a subcompact car, so I wasn't really aware of their average running price, or that Mini Cooper was the top-of-the-line as far as subcompacts go. For the record, I'm truly not someone who splurges on cars, nor am I a car snob. I find cars a necessary evil, more or less. I've owned four vehicles in my life, all of which I bought used, and only one of which I financed (I refused to get a car loan until I was 30): an Acura Legend, a Ford Taurus, and two Volvos. Two out of the four were beaters.

Mini Coopers are no longer "mini" sized.

R123 a great number of men still are unfortunately.

Mini Cooper and Cooper S are a lot of fun to drive and also have a lot of technology that was new to the segment when the latest generation launched. Head up display, adaptive cruise control, adaptive dampers, etc. Size isn’t everything fellas.

MiniCoopers cost a lot more in the long run because they use premium gas.

I'd take a convertible one!

Speaking of Mini Coopers, I just sold my old red Mini convertible which I beat to hell but it wouldn’t stop running. Now I’m looking for another one... this time maybe a used British Racing Green convertible. I love these little cars. I find them reliable, relatively inexpensive, cute and tons of fun. Like driving a go kart.

Some of the richest people I've known drove old beat up small model Chevrolets. It was an inside joke of a family that once owned General Motors but we're forced to divest in a famous antitrust case. A quarter-century later it was reverse chic among the richer members if the family to drive ratty old cheap Chevrolets.

Car pride can be a sign of people who have or started from little. For really rich people who have always had and always will have everything they want, cars can seem a pointless extravagance and bring unnecessary attention.

Camaro owners = trailer trash SUVs = inconsiderate suburbanites Cadillacs and Lincolns = pimps

Acura: cute Asian guy with a Computer engineering degree. Also has a super clean rear end.

Death wish.

I drive a 2009 Volkswagen Rabbit. What does that say about me?

BMW - everyone already knows the answer to this

VW - someday hopes to own a BMW

R133 it indicates you are a nice guy but have micropeen.

I drive this.

R135- You are correct about the first part but sadly mistaken for the second part.

BMW means you like going to the mechanic a LOT because BMW stands for Break My Wallet.

Corvette = small penis

Corvettes and Camaros are the two cars I can't help but judge. And not favorably.

[quote] I drive a 2009 Volkswagen Rabbit. What does that say about me?

Hmm ... I guess I'd say frugal, due to the 2009 part (which is good, in my book). I didn't realize VW Rabbits were still manufactured past the '80s. They don't stand out as much as they used to back then (which is also good). So, I'd guess I'd say slightly low key as a person.

I always think of VWs as being unreliable, but a friend has had the Tiguan for a long time, no complaints.

Red truck, big wheels = aggressively obnoxious and an objectively bad driver.

Whoa....Suddenly I feel like I'm on a heterosexual website, where guys = cars, love of.

I have never, ever given a flying fuck about cars of any kind or who drives them.

A car, for me, is a radio on wheels that, with luck, will work. That is all.

Red truck, big wheels = aggressively obnoxious and an objectively bad driver. And a trump voter.

I am sort of in the market for a new car...maybe...but don't want to spend a lot of money. The Kia dealership near me has a new Soul, forest green, loaded, for only 21k. It has great reviews, and I like that it doesn't look much like anything else out there. So would that mean that I'd get branded as a paste-eater?

I liked luxury and gadgets so made the mistake of buying a 2014 CTS. WORST FUCKING CAR EVER!!! So: Cadillac = Sucker. Traded it for a 2010 Lexus suv, same price but reliable as hell.

I prefer midsize SUV’s because they are much easier for me to see out of and have enough headroom. I love the idea of a frugal car but am not nearly as comfortable driving one.

White pickup truck with astroturf lining in the bed, dog riding happily in the bed but not tied, peeling paint on the side = deplorable.

R145 I was looking into Kia and the Kia Soul as well. But ultimately decided against it. Kia is cheaper than Toyota for a reason. Where plastic parts (including mechanical parts) can be used to cut costs, Kia will do so, but not Toyota they don’t like to use cheap plastic parts where it counts in the portions under the hood. If you’re looking to have good resale value and easier time selling it, I’d suggest not going with the Kia Soul. BTW I know the green model you’re talking about, I looked at it last year around the same time.

The bigger the truck the smaller the cock.

Why do rich people always drive frugal cars? The two wealthiest people I know drive a Prius and a decade old RAV 4. I guess you either love cars or you don't. If I had money I'd buy a Lamborghini and fuck the rest of the world and their penis jokes.

R151 because they don’t want moochers looking for handouts. I’ve made that mistake. Never again. And it wasn’t even a Lamborghini.

Because smart rich people don’t want to be marks for grifters and criminals. A top of the line RAV-4 hybrid is less of a mark than a Lamborghini.

KIA or Hyundai = broke.

Won’t someone PLEASE shit in my mouth?

Loud/enhanced muffler, raised truck with big tires, & super bright after market lights - DICKS

People who drive Nissan Altimas- THE WORST DRIVERS IN THE WORLD. They will hit you and try to sue you.

BMW drivers- zip in and out of traffic, change lanes, drive like maniacs & still get to the same red light as you, faster so they can wait longer.

Hooptie drivers - a lawsuit on wheels. Avoid at all costs.

I’m so judging these hot cousin fuckers. I’m judging their tight asses in white trash knock-off Jordache jeans and their feathery Hollywood haircuts that look out of place in dumbfuck Southern small town.

Rolls Royce: old money whose family probably is complicit in some long-ago historical atrocity

For our LA sisters:

Black BMW, hairy arm hanging outside the window sporting a fake Rolex and holding a Marlboro Light as snakecharmer music blares on the radioand = Armenian

White or Black Mercedes C Class, real Rolex also holding a Marlboro Light and extremely hairy = Persian

Both drive like maniacs and honk at pedestrians who dare cross when they have the right of way.

R148, you should never tie a dog in the back of a pickup truck. That's a death sentence if you have an accident. Instead, the dog should be allowed to roam free in the bed, so that it can leap to safety during a crash.

R160 - so sad for the poor dogs. I briefly dated a scientist with a micro peen and unclean ass and he had a chocolate lab who he used to put in the back seat of his BMW and, because Doctor dirty-asshole drove like a maniac, was always being thrown around and yelping. I said learn to drive or leave him the hell home to roam free in the garden instead of terrorizing the poor dog.

[quote]Audi = Asshole

That's Dr. Asshole to you.

R161 seeing the words "unclean ass" and "chocolate" in the same sentence made me LOL. 😂😂😂😂👄😆😋🤣💩

R161 seeing the words "unclean ass" and "chocolate" in the same sentence made me LOL. 😂😂😂😂👄😆😋🤣💩

[quote] KIA or Hyundai = broke.

My friend, who is definitely not broke, drove a KIA for a long time. Put some decent miles on that KIA, too. He does take good care of his cars, though.

I don’t judge Tesla drivers unless they drive a red Tesla Roadster or one of their other sports cars. I know 2 physicians who drive them and yes, I know small sample size and all but both are dismissive assholes. One of them used to take advantage of me by taking off early in his red roadster to play golf after lunch while leaving me to see all of his patients.

I don't have to, R166. Consumer Reports does it for them.

R148, once I was driving on the freeway and started seeing a long smear of blood on the road. Eventually I came upon a dog’s amputated head. The dog had fallen onto the road after falling out of a pickup truck bed. The dog’s mouth was frozen in a screaming position and his face was frozen on a rictus of fear. There wasn’t much of a body left, some smears of organs in the road, thrown around. I will never forget that as long as I live.

Anyone who would deliberately risk his dog dying like that is heartless.

[quote][R148], once I was driving on the freeway and started seeing a long smear of blood on the road. Eventually I came upon a dog’s amputated head. The dog had fallen onto the road after falling out of a pickup truck bed. The dog’s mouth was frozen in a screaming position and his face was frozen on a rictus of fear. There wasn’t much of a body left, some smears of organs in the road, thrown around. I will never forget that as long as I live. Anyone who would deliberately risk his dog dying like that is heartless.

Amateur.

Alright queue the Sarah Mcclachlan song. This is about cars not dead dogs.

Sorry, R170. I posted it on the off chance that maybe R148 isn’t a total monster and can be reasoned with. But you’re right, probably not. People like that are narcissists and incapable of caring for anything but themselves.

Mitt Romney came under fire for strapping his dog (in a cage) on the top of his car.

If I see someone driving a Toyota, I assume they are smart because the Toyota is the best made car out there and can run for hundreds of thousands of miles with minimal maintenance. But I love cars, knew every one on the road when I was four, so I'd also assume those Toyota drivers are also boring.

I live in Midtown/Montrose Houston. Luxury cars can make you a mark for the many criminals we have roaming the streets. There’s been many car- jackings, auto thefts and break ins because of the make of the car. Best to stay incognito and practical with a Toyota, Honda, or Nissan. (I would never consider driving American made.)

[quote] If I see someone driving a Toyota, I assume they are smart because the Toyota is the best made car out there and can run for hundreds of thousands of miles with minimal maintenance. But I love cars, knew every one on the road when I was four, so I'd also assume those Toyota drivers are also boring.

Why would you assume Toyota drivers are boring? Because they're smart & Toyota is the best made car, etc.? Not following your logic. What car would you see on the road (in the price range of a Toyota) and think: "That person looks interesting" (not boring)?

Mitsubishi Eclipse GT convertible here. What say you?

R176 attention whore who can’t afford a Porsche

I'd love a Tesla. I like how you can "call" it and it starts up and comes to you in a parking lot. Great for inclement weather. Also love how it can beat any muscle car off the line from 0-100 mph in absolute silence. And the best part is how you can program it to give you a holiday light show!!

Because R175, it's a boring car even if it is reliable. They're everywhere. The people might not be boring, but it's a boring choice. I bought a Lexus, made by Toyota which gives you a little more flash and luxury along with the Toyota reliability. And yes, I know that makes me a pretentious bore.

I don't know if it's true everywhere, but in the South:

White woman driving a big white American SUV: It's leased/purchased through her husband's dental or medical practice, a write-off.

If they are from a smaller or rural area, it's through her husband's farming or construction business.

The SUVs are almost always white. Not sure why that is.

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, R54. I drive a 2004 Honda Accord. It still drives just fine and I haven't had a car payment in over 11 years. I am thinking up going electric now, but I'm not sure what to buy. The Tesla post from Consumer Reports at R167 scares me off, and I've read a lot about Elon Musk that turns me off of Tesla. Any recommendations from DLers who drive electric?

Isotta-Fraschini = movie star of yesteryear.

R178 - it’s properly called “summoning the car,” but yes, that is a super cool feature to impress your friends with.

Over the course of my forty-some-odd years on this planet I've driven just about everything. A Camry in college then an Accord when I got out of medical school. I bought a Mercedes when I started making some money and quickly said never again. The cost of ownership was just too high and the car, even new, had too many problems. After that I bought another Camry which ended up getting totaled in a wreck. Then it was a BMW 3 series which I drove for seven years. No problems whatsoever. After that I took the plunge and bought a year old 740i and four years later I'm still problem free.

You are a very dull person, R184.

I had a much older brother who was a bit of a jackass, a motorhead, who had to have a flashy car when he was in high school, who resented having to work hard to pay for it because my parents would only give him a basic amount toward a basic used car. He was quick to condemn anyone and everyone for not looking, doing, thinking exactly as he did -- and driving a certain type of car, always obsessively clean and sparkling. My earliest memories of him are his spending days polishing his cars.

In the way that children either fall in line and emulate their families or fall out of line and don't, my brother's obsession with cars and outward appearances put me off taking too much stock in them. No matter how much money I had, a car was always the last thing I wanted to spend money on. That I didn't have the American gene for the love of car driving and road trips, and that I spent most of my time in cities where having a car is expensive, a pain in the ass, and often both didn't make me more conscious about my place in the consumer spectrum for cars. I didn't have one whenever I could get away with not having one.

For me, something never seemed quite right about the guy who could identify make, model, and year of every car on the road, and a Lexus and a Toyota could pass by at a slow speed and my takeaway would be general body shape and color (light or dark.) I'm particular as fuck about other things, but cars don't make much impression at all outside of a few clown cars (a PT Cruiser always seemed a statement car, and a sad one, likewise Corvettes and Camaros) and on the other end a very few makes/models that do catch my eye, but these are older cars, so they impress me on one level yet I don't want to own one. . .

kia = stupid broke cunt whore

My Lesbian buddies told me that "all lesbian drive Suburu Forresters" so I have a 2019 Outback(great car) and a 1970's Rolls Royce Phantom(left to me by an old Fuck buddy from the 1980's in his will-everything paid for by his in the upgrade). He was a Saudi oil billionaire,great fuck, along with his driver(Samir was even better).

Vulva

R182 Welcome to DL Miss Desmond!

"It's not the cars that got small, it's the people!"

Liked my old 528i, the engine was bulletproof and the performance was great, but it had an electrical problem that nobody could solve, not even the dealer. The wipers would shut down in a rainstorm. Every time. Traded it in for a new Subaru and bored myself to death, but no ghosts in the machine.

Our ride from 1979-1984.

I got a job driving a 60s Bentley for some rich gay guy in NYC in the 70s. Thing was a beast. Huge car with no power steering. Later an ex had a Rolls Corniche convertible like Jonathan Hart. I always thought Rolls Royces were super quiet, the clock being the only thing you could hear. But this car was similar to any other 80s American luxury car. It kind of creaked and groaned and didn't block out road noise. When you stepped on the gas you'd hear the engine. But everyone tried to see who was inside it.

You all are making some weird statements about Kia drivers. From what I have seen, loads of RNs drive them and with their salaries, I wouldn't say they are broke.

I had a beautiful Corniche convertible, but sadly sold it a few years ago when I needed money for a business venture. Wish I hadn’t let it go because I never had more fun with a car. To my pleasant surprise, people held my Rolls Royce in great esteem. I was approached by pleasant and curious people everywhere I went. Some were in awe. Cell phone cameras clicked. Folks seem to know it was an older classic that I was preserving and I never got any side-eye or felt like a nouveau riche jerk.

One time a cop waved me over and I assumed a ticket was forthcoming. But instead he just wanted to ask about the car. I actually asked him if he’d like to drive it, but he was afraid of getting in trouble. He did ask me to take his picture sitting in it. Another time, at a gas station, an angry, crazy-looking older guy came running at the Corniche and screaming at me. I thought, ‘Oh boy, here come he insults’. Anyhow, he had seen some small chips in the car’s paint and yelled, “How can you drive a beautiful car like this and not immediately fix the paint? Don’t you know you’re the custodian of a classic?” He wasn’t trying to be funny. I apologized and left quickly.

I get it now. Anyone driving any car is obviously a dick.

[quote]People who drive Nissan Altimas- THE WORST DRIVERS IN THE WORLD. They will hit you and try to sue you.

I can’t believe how many comments I had to read before finally seeing this one. Altima drivers [italic]are[/italic] the worst, I don’t understand why but whenever I see a post or news story about a hit and run an Altima driver is the culprit.

New Altimas are also the most stolen car in the US.

In the 50s-70s GM designed its cars to represent the climb up the economic ladder. The Chevy was a starter car for a blue collar worker who who wanted something new but affordably priced. The Pontiac was for people in middle management (not Fortune 500) who craved the "wide track" (see below). Buicks were for dentists, veterinarians and grandparents. Oldsmobiles were designed for people who could probably buy a Cadillac but didn't want to put on airs, except for the Toronado. And the Cadillac was designed for people who were business owners, doctors and lawyers and reasonably-successful drug dealers.

Coke fiend and GM VP John DeLorean was responsible for the Grand Prix of the early 70s which featured the earth-shaking, trend-setting feature known as "hidden wipers."

For very few greenbacks you could pretend you were driving a Rolls Royce in 1977. The Versailles fooled people for three whole years.

R193- I would HARDLY call a Bentley from the 1960's huge. A 1977 Lincoln Continental- THAT was HUGE.

We bought one of these in the 70s. I don't know what it said about me, probably nothing good, but I loved that fucking car.

Subarus are the new Volvos and have been for about 20 years, DLers.

Volvo jacked up its price to Mercedes/BMW level about 20 years ago, and the cars started getting less than stellar reviews from Consumer Reports, at which point all the upper middle class suburban types that used to drive Volvos made the switch to Foresters and Imprezas.

But it's definitely the anti-status car of the last two decades.

People who are trashing Kias and Hyundais are living in the past. Their models often get much higher ratings than their Japanese counterparts, and they offer a much better warranty. I have a Subaru now, but I loved my Hyundai Sonata. My next car may be a Genesis (Hyundai's upscale line; i.e., their Acura/Infiniti/Lexus), when they come out with an SUV.

[quote] are living in the past.

On Datalounge????

NO!!!!

NEVER!!!

It will always be 1987 on Datalounge OP

Or thereabouts.

Especially on threads like this or the travel threads.

It's not done with malice though.

R185 = Jealous hater in a broke down fifteen-year-old Kia.

R204 higher consumer ratings don’t mean shit because they’re based upon past few years (1-4 years). It’s one of the advertising scams that certain companies love to trot out. New/ newer car owners are likely to be defensive about choice of cars because they want to justify making the right decision on such a big purchase. The more reliable metrics are ones like resale value, longterm consumer satisfaction, longevity without $$$ repairs, and cost of upkeep. Also as mentioned above, go see what a lot of mechanics are driving. Mechanics don’t want to spend their free time fixing own cars, also they want to make money from cars not sink money into them.

Kias are very good cars indeed. But their image is of a starter car you give your teen daughter or at best a starter car for a young married couple with very young kids.

My 10-year-old Lexus SUV will last me forever with routine maintenance. I watched a million consumer videos (hello Scotty Kilmer!) after I got burned big time on a Cadillac with less than 60K miles on it. The entire suspension system broke down to the tune of $8K. Then the touch screen went out and the dealer said they had no parts for either problem and there was a big backlog of orders. GM stopped selling Cadillacs this year, except for the Escalade SUV, because of the crap they sold schnooks like me. If you don't want a boring Toyota, get yourself a Lexus. It's got a great ride, quiet, and a lot more comfortable on long trips than the CTS ever was.

A car I wouldn't mind driving is a 2021 Lexus ES 350.

I have a 2002 Suzuki convertible compact SUV. I still like it a lot. I intend on keeping it until it is at least 25 years old, if not 30. I make no assumptions about myself given the car I drive; I know it to be comfortable, reliable and very nimble about town.

ES 350 = middle management.

R210, my partner's ex-wife just bought a Lexus GSF. It's not a 2021; it's a 2020 but she bought it new. There's no denying that it's a well-made stylish automobile but it's not nearly as comfortable as my BMW 740i, and I can't help but see a Camry every time I look at it. To me it's looks just like a Camry with a better interior.

Get an Oldsmobile and shut up.

R213- The Lexus ES 350 is built off the Toyota Camry platform. The Lexus GSF is a rear wheel drive car and is NOT built off the Camry platform.

You fatsos all need to get a bike and get out more. Some of you may prefer a tricycle under your Kaftans.

That may be true R215, but I still see a Camry every time she pulls up. To my eye it looks exactly like a Camry. Granted, I am not the most sophisticated connoisseur of automobiles.

I’ve driven a Delta 88 for 30 years? Doesn’t that sound super sexy?

Hmmm. I drive a 2019 VW GOLF SE. Wonder what that says about me? It’s super cute —black with an off-white interior, moonroof, great sound system. Really fun to drive and no problems.

Twice in one week I’ve seen old deplorable hillbillies in red corvette convertibles trying to run people off the road.

Can’t they all be assassinated?

Where I live I see too many Mercedes, whose quality has declined markedly over the last couple of years. Status car that's lost its sheen. The new Toyota Camrys are actually not bad looking. Bless their hearts. They're trying.

Out here in the Hamptons, all the people who used to drive Range Rovers are now driving Teslas.

They're as common here as Honda Civics are in other parts of the country.

I prefer them to Range Rovers in that you can easily see over and around them.

VW Jetta drivers are assholes

Out of my way! You're too rich and too old to be driving yourself Miss Daisy!!

School marm

New Rolls Royce or Bentley = new money with zero class/taste. They are incredible cars but not what the brands used to be. If I had the money I’d buy a Bristol car. Never heard of it? They are the last of the truly hand built British vehicles. Very rare. Very understated.

Great, Bristol went out of business in May.

Assholes: my neighbors' house is worth about $500,000. They have SUVs (his and hers) in the garage and sometimes on the driveway from Porsche and Mercedes which I assume are worth a disproportionate amount compared to the value of their home. What gives? Show offs? Aspiring-nouveaux?

Cars have always been status symbols since the very first one rolled off the line. People will allocate a big part of their monthly income so they can drive and be seen in the hottest ride of the moment. I can't afford to do that but it doesn't bother me because if I could I'd be right out there with them. I LOVE cars and how the technology has grown, esp recently with electric self drive cars. To me they're like mobile art. When I was a kid I'd ride my bike to the local showroom every year to see the new styles. I lost the knack in the 90s but before then I could name every single model on the road since I was a kid.

I am not interested in cars, but I need to buy one. I'm in a very cuntish neighborhood where everyone has cars they can't really afford and I don't want to be regarded as a poor (or more of a poor). I was thinking that a Buick might be rather dignified - how do you rate Buick DLers, be brutal (they will be).

Are you Chinese R231? Big sellers over there. Not so much over here. They have a line of SUVs from hobbit size to NBA size. Not sure of their reliability. GM hasn't been good lately. I like the LaCrosse.

What about an Oldsmobile then?

Um they discontinued Oldsmobiles in '04.

OK, you bitches have worn me down. It will have to be a Volvo.

Haven't seen my car, and the only one I ever want. A late model Jeep Cherokee(XJ series). I'm looking now to buy a restored one.

I like Volvos because of their logo...male symbol. Had one once. It was a real brick. Heard they're not so great anymore.

If they drive a Duesenberg then I assume Agnes Gooch.

I'll never give up my DeSoto.

i always wanted a Saab..were they any good?

Yes R240 the Saab was excellent, prior to 1990.

R240 they were until GM bought them and killed the brand

Regrettably GM is a medical insurance company which just happens to make automobiles.

R236 - I think you mean early model.

R239, ah the' 57 DeSoto. I remember that car as a toddler. My father bought it and when I was a little older I'd slide over next to him when we came to the streets near our house and he'd let me steer. That car really took automotive design out of the 50s with the design. I remember the neighbors on our dead end street all came over and took a turn driving it. That doesn't happen anymore.

Do not get a Volvo R235

It screams "I slept through to past two decades when everyone who used to drive a Volvo switched to Subaru and so I just massively overpaid for a really ugly car that's not even particularly safe anymore."

Does anyone have a Subaru Crosstrek? I really like them, but would I be branded a lesbian?

Some of you misunderstand...it’s about ASSUMPTIONS that some tend to make when they see the car people drive. No one said anything about agreeing with those who make the assumptions. The knee jerk defensiveness is exhausting.

I assume drivers of black Range Rovers and G-Wagons, especially in matte paint finish and/or chrome rims are jerks even though I know some nice people who drive them.

R209. Scotty Kilmer and his commenters convinced me that a Camry was the way to go when it time to replace my 2001 Grand Prix. Bought a 2011 SE in August.

In my area and I am sure most other areas small Latino men own very large pickups. In some cases they double aswork trucks.

What assumptions do you make about people who drive a Buick?

Research has shown that the more expensive the vehicle, the less likely it is to stop for a pedestrian—even after they’ve made eye contact. Researchers have suggested that this and other studies show that the more rich the person, the lower the empathy.

@ r252, "What assumptions do you make about people who drive a Buick? "

That you're a republican who lives on a golf course in a gated community or that you died in 1998

Buick’s tend to be old people. But they have kinda broke out from that some. If you were in one of those compact Suvs, I would think were daring because you knew that Buick is a dad car, but you recognized that this one might be cool.

Buick Rivieras and Wildcats in the '60s were great cars.

I wanted my grandfather to buy either one but instead he bought an Electra.

R244 As that style ran from 1983-2001 and I want one from 1994-2001 I would want a late model of that vehicle. Late model and early model are confusing and imprecise terms.

[[quote] Wildcats in the '60s were great cars.

I wanted a Wildcat too...it wasn’t in the cards...

R246 every granola stoner, snowboarder, their mom, and their dyke aunt drives a Subaru. They've been completely enervated. Boring. Volvos are no hotrod, but they are way classier than any Subaru.

I see somebody in a Subaru and the only thing I think is "not an enthusiast". I test drove a couple and found them to be wanting under the hood. I don't have to have a Porsche. But I need something that can get around people.

R259

R259, like many DLers, is posting from the year 1992.

R262 if anything, it's more true today than it was in 1992. Volvo did not really become a luxury brand until the late '90s. Today, they're something of an "anti-status" luxury car--classy, more utilitarian and practical than something like a Mercedes or BMW, but still in the family of European luxury cars. Aside from the period when Ford owned them (which was basically all of the 2000s, if I recall correctly), they've had a reputation for being very reliable cars that sustain their value. Subarus have a similar reputation for reliability, but they still aren't luxury vehicles.

[quote]Buick: That you're a republican who lives on a golf course in a gated community or that you died in 1998

OMG you just described my parents, except for dying in '98 part. They kept the Buick for a while. I think it saved them when they were broadsided once. Big solid car. The Park Avenue model. Pretentious having a car named after a NYC street. Definitely not for the young or hip.

I moved to a place on a steep hill that was covered with snow in the winter so I got a new Subaru Legacy which I liked because it was a big sedan like a Camry or Accord, and could make it up the hill. Very reliable except for headlights always going out. The thing I did not like was the CVT transmission. It was loud and whiny. Another vote for Scotty Kilmer when looking for a reliable car.

[quote] Definitely not for the young or hip.

But definitely for the old and hip replacement.

People who put reindeer antlers on their car every December: obviously not a rabbi

So are there any 'luxury' brand cars that are OK - or does everyone think they're shit?

Some of them used to be good before the US steel industry went to shit.

Lexus. Luxury and reliability. Even the ones made in Canada.

Infiniti: rich white yuppies easily swayed by pretentious commercials that drive old ladies nuts

In their latest Consumer Reliability Survey, Lexus was the top brand, with a score of 81 out of 100 for “Average Predicted Reliability”, followed by Mazda and Toyota tied at 77. Your Lexus should have a long life ahead of it. The Lexus ES 350 has above-average reliability and longevity–like all Toyotas. And, after all, this car is simply a Toyota Camry in fancy dress. As with any other make of car, maintenance is the key.

Some people don't like the Lexus hourglass grill. I like it.

I make a great income but work hard to live within my means.

I have a cheap subaru because I don’t link my personal value to the type of car I drive.

I have never been one who cared for fancy cars. But not leasing or buying an expensive car, I can take amazing vacations.

Subarus are boring until you’re in a snowstorm.

They are the only cars driving past the cars that are stuck on the side of the rode

I’ve never owned a fancy car— always Toyotas or Hondas

I don’t even know what a fancy car feels like to make me want to pay triple

My cars are always bought to last as long as possible with the least need for maintenance. Japanese midrange cars fit the bill nicely

[Quote] Volvos are no hotrod, but they are way classier than any Subaru.

So should I think Volvo owners are somehow better people?

R273 - I can’t even begin to imagine how much that grill would cost to repair. The goddamn thing looks like a spaceship. I miss heavy steel bumpers with rubber “bumps.”

R273 - I can’t even begin to imagine how much that grill would cost to repair. The goddamn thing looks like a spaceship. I miss heavy steel bumpers with rubber “bumps.”

I have a pretty mundane car, but people in my neighborhood, with the same priced houses I do have BMWs, Lexuses, etc.

This is what leasing has done—it has allowed people to basically rent cars they couldn’t afford otherwise so they can show off that they are wealthier than they really are

R263 must work at a Volvo dealership.

Though does sort of prove the point that Subaru has taken over Volvo's old target market of "People who can easily afford luxury cars but make it a point not to own one, driving a sturdy reliable vehicle that has zero appeal to the working classes who also buy cars at that price point, thus making a statement as to how unmaterialistic the owner is."

Sort of the L.L. Bean of automobiles.

I always roll my eye when people start taking about BMW series blah blah blah, as if I give a shit

[Quote] Why do rich people always drive frugal cars? The two wealthiest people I know drive a Prius and a decade old RAV 4. I guess you either love cars or you don't. If I had money I'd buy a Lamborghini and fuck the rest of the world and their penis jokes.

Um, why do you think they’re rich?

I'm more than content with my 2011 Camry with low mileage. Honestly, I'd have no car if I could easily get around without having to call Uber, but I live in the suburbs, and not quite to that level. For me, boring or not, my car is reliable as fuck, easily gets me from point A to B, and it's clean. No frills. I don't begrudge others who have love affairs with their autos, but I don't have such attachments. When my car does need to go to the dealer, I hate their predatory suggestions that this or that needs attention, "pretty soon," and with a huge pricetag. Further, I'm not mechanically inclined, so there are times when I'm wondering if this or that needs attention.

I'm lucky, though. Several years ago, I discovered a handsome hunk of a guy, shirtless, mowing his lawn. We became friends and I realized that he's a stellar mechanic who is as honest as the day is long. Very kind guy. Whenever I get a Toyota type insisting I need some work done, I smile at them, thank them, and then call my mechanic and ask him if he can do the work for me. He always can, and is happy to do the side projects. He's saved me hundreds and hundreds of dollars through the years, and I refer my friends to him as well.

I've driven my last two cars 18 years each.

R243- In the 1970's NO car company was better at making BIG cars then GM, especially beginning in the fall of 1976 when GM introduced their downsized BIG cars. They were still big but not longer HUGE. They were beautifully styled especially the interiors. I read a few years ago that the person at GM who oversaw the designing of the interior of GM's full size cars in the mid to late 1970's was a GAY male. Boy did that QUEEN have good taste.

W/in last 25 yrs, own 2 Lexus, with latter a hybrid SUV. Brand has a boring, suburban image but they're so damn reliable and comfy (esp for long roadtrips). Interesting that until a few years ago, Lexus were still called Toyotas in some Asian markets

When you see a man over 40 in a Lambo or Porsche convertible you think "midlife crisis" and "small penis"

When you see a man under 40 in a Lambo or Porsche convertible you think either "kept boy", "driving daddy's car" or "drug dealer"

Not sure there's a positive assumption for those types of vehicles

I bought the silver 2005 Nissan Sentra SE-R with the spoiler in 2010 and it had problems pretty quickly. For what I paid for it (too much) it barely lasted 10 years and was on its last legs when I traded it in for almost nothing. Nissan is a crap brand that tries to get business off of the backs of the Toyota and Honda fans, except it’s cheaper made and less reliable.

Nissan drivers = want something better looking than Toyotas but are suckers. I was one! I learned from my mistakes.

R290 - really? That's a shame about Nissan, because they really have great designs.

Personally, I bought a luxury car (2 years old to save on depreciation) because I had a long commute and figured I may as well be comfortable and in nice surroundings. Never regretted it.

Now it's 9 years old - I'll probably hold on to it for another year or two. It still looks great outside and inside, but I take care of my vehicles.

Americans spend a lot of time in their cars - why not love what you drive?

My first car I bought by for myself was a Nissan Sentra, and then I bought a Maxima when I got my first promotion. Never had any problems with either, both were reasonably priced, and joys to drive. Each elicited loads of compliments.

So, Nissans are awesome. You know, as long as we're judging entire brands based on personal experience, driving habits, and ability to properly maintain an automobile.

I've never met someone who drives a Porsche who wasn't a total douchebag.

R292 - “Each elicited loads of compliments.”

I have no problem with Nissans and owned an extremely reliable Sentra in the 90s, but there’s no way your Maxima and Sentra “elicited loads of compliments.” These are average cars that blend in and get you from point A to B.

I love my Audi A4, very reliable, bought it slightly used and certified.

R295 - That’s nice to hear. I’ve always loved the look of Audis but heard they required frequent and expensive maintenance.

I was watching a British TV show and one of the main characters was a schoolteacher -- looked like in the lower grades. And he was young -- maybe late 20s. Yet he was able to afford both a nice house (that he bought) and a new Audi. Are schoolteachers that well-paid in the UK?

The Audi 8 interior is one of the most beautiful I've ever seen. It looks like a spaceship.

R298-Unfortunately the Audi A8 - according to Consumer Reports- has worse than average reliability.

R296 my first car was a very old Audi from the mid-80s (the exact same luxury sedan model and color you see the mom drive in ET), but I bought it for $1000 on eBay in 2001. It lasted maybe a year or so, but never really drove reliably and had problems and die randomly. When I took it to a mechanic when it wouldn’t start (multiple times), the mechanics couldn’t figure it out because it was such an obscure European car, I guess. Sad, because I liked the car, but that’s what you get for not having a bigger car budget just out of high school.

Positive association with Mazda, Toyota, and Subaru drivers.

Negative associations with most Hyundai, Chevy, Buick, Honda, Dodge, and Chrysler drivers.

[quote]So should I think Volvo owners are somehow better people?

No, but it does suggest they had enough conviction to not readily hop on the Subaru bandwagon like every desperate hipster and bulldyke in the United States.

#1 Irving Gordon: 1966 Volvo 1800S

Irving Gordon: 3 Million MilesIrving currently holds the Guinness World Record for the highest vehicle mileage on a personal car, with over 3,000,000 miles on his 1966 Volvo 1800S!

Irving estimates he drives over 100,000 miles per year visiting car shows, with the longest stretch in 1 trip being New York to Vancouver, Canada.

He was interviewed by Popular Mechanics after setting the world record and detailed the maintenance of his vehicle, saying that he changes the oil every 3,000 – 3,500 miles and changes the transmission fluid every 25,000 miles.

An even crazier feat was the fact that his original clutch (yes, this is a manual transmission vehicle) lasted a whopping 450,000 miles! For reference the average lifespan of a clutch is around 50,000 miles with some people seeing 100,000 miles if properly taken care of.

Could it be that Volvo built a near-indestructible vehicle in 1966 or is Irving just that gentle on his cars? The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle. Either way this is a remarkable feat.

I hate crossovers and SUVs, but I have a hard-on for the Volvo V90 Cross Country. Very sleek design with a crossover capacity and a car like drivability.

[quote]Um, why do you think they’re rich?

Because they are. They have about $30M and drive a 10 year old RAV4 and an 8 year old Prius. Some people don't care about cars. I'm not one of them. I love 'em.

[quote] Irving Gordon: 3 Million MilesIrving currently holds the Guinness World Record for the highest vehicle mileage on a personal car, with over 3,000,000 miles on his 1966 Volvo 1800S!

Fake news! Melania's Vulva has way more mile than that on it.

Irving Gordon is dead to us

R303- BIG DEAL. There was a guy in Pennsylvania who drove a 1990 Honda Accord with , I believe - 2 million miles in it!

My 2019 Chevy is approaching 2 years old now. Everything still works just fine. Up for a new job that scrapes $200K. Might trade it for a Cadillar Lyriq.

Is that guy in the OP's picture a special adult who they dressed up to make him feel good? Even his shoes look off.

In the early 90s in SCal, every queen with a halfway decent job seemed to drive a Chrysler Lebaron Convertible. Too many actually.

[quote]Might trade it for a Cadillar Lyriq.

Please reconsider the Cadillac. I bought a used 2014 CTS4 with 60K on it. It was the worst car I've ever owned and I'm old. I bought it because I liked the style and all the gadgets -- self parking, adaptive cruise control, etc. I mentioned I'd bought it here and people warned me, and now I'm warning you. Within one year I had to pay over four thousand dollars in repairs, or would have if they'd had the parts (everything was back ordered and they could not tell me when they'd be in). The touch screen broke first, which was a disaster. Then the brakes. Then the ENTIRE suspension on the car needed replacement. This was a certified car with an excellent carfax. People have caught on to these lousy cars and they sold only about 7,000 of these crapmobiles last year. Yep. Bitter. I would strongly consider a Lexus. Any Lexus. Seriously. That's what I got as a replacement and it's amazing.

The most recent Consumer Reports list of “Brands That Make The Best Vehicles” list shows Cadillac as being 29th on the list out of 33 total brands

I have to agree with the Cadillac advice. I’ve never known a wise person who purchased a Cadillac. Can you imagine the astronomical rate of depreciation on that hunk of junk? Here in Texas, only old white republicans and African-American thugs drive them.

Even the Escalade gets really bad marks for reliability

Cadillac shot their load years ago when GM went into overdrive with badge engineering and making their cars basically bacon-wrapped Chevys. The Cimarron was their lowest point. And every time they made headway, they fucked up. They claim to be shying away from sedans because everyone wants crossovers. Same with Ford and Chrysler. The truth is that they make shitty, unreliable cars and crossovers have higher profit margins; so it's greed and laziness. Shareholders and bean counters run US car manufacturers. Fuck Cadillac.

R310, I thought the same thing when I first saw the pic. I think he might have traded in the small bus for that BMW.

R316- The end of Cadillac was in the spring of 1984 when they introduced the DOWNSIZED- Coupe deville, Sedan deville etc which were based on a stretched X car platform. They were UGLY and small.

Those were bad days at Cadillac too r318.

My wheels are stylin...

[quote]The end of Cadillac was in the spring of 1984 when they introduced the DOWNSIZED- Coupe deville, Sedan deville etc which were based on a stretched X car platform. They were UGLY and small.

Don't forget the Cimarron (1982), which was just an overpriced Chevy Cavalier.

My main assumption is: the guy driving the BMW can’t afford to buy it so rents it through a lease

I don't make any assumptions unless I see the driver as well as the car. With those two inputs, it's a fun game for armchair sociologists.

Assume nothing. Rich people often drive beaters: Howard Hughes drove dirty, clapped out old Chevrolets so as not to attract attention. Some poor people make exorbitant payments at ridiculous interest rates on cars their grandmother in a nursing home actually "owns" because she was the only one in the family who had good enough credit to sign for the loan.

I drive a well-worn - and thus perfect for the city because I don't give a shit if more paint gets chipped off the bumpers - 2009 Honda Fit and a pristine 2018 Mercedes roadster. Any assumptions you made about me based on what you saw me driving would be wrong the minute I opened the other garage door.

PS: The stupidest thing I ever did was buying a second Audi. The second stupidest thing I ever did was buying the first one.

If you drive anything better than my 2016 KIA, you have erectile dysfunction.

Consumer Report's rates some Kia's VERY high. The Kia Telluride has a road test score of 97 and excellent reliability. There is NO German SUV that has Excellent reliability.

I'm craving the not-yet-available Genesis GV70. It's supposed to be out (in the US) some time in 2021. I may finally let go of my too-frugal ways and just go for it.

I so don’t care about cars and who I’m. Supposedly impressing.

My Honda Pilot is just fine and I’ll drive it into the ground

Late model Volvo = cool, non-ostentatious person with taste.

I'm unhappy that Pontiacs are off the market - they were a clear signal to me that I needed to be careful around them because their idiot drivers pull dumb shit at any moment. Also, all the dumbest people I knew drove pontiacs.

I think I also read a recent study that said Ford truck drivers had the most DUIs. So there's that too.

Sometimes I think I'd like to just outright buy an expensive car... but then I realize that I drive about 16k km/year and could care less what I drive. So I just picked up a new Corolla when my first car (which I bought used from my parents) died.

Agreed R329. Volvos are nice cars, but they're not *too* nice to the point that you look like a status-obsessed prick driving them. They have an understated classiness about them that you either get or you don't. As it's been noted, the highly-educated and/or old money types tend to drive them for that exact reason.

I've lived to long to buy into this anymore. Don't get me wrong, people can meet the stereotype of a certain vehicle. But, I'm just as often surprised by a person who drives a vehicle that would seen to be opposite any stereotypes.

R330-PONTIAC the mark of GREAT cars!

I love cars because of freedom I feel in them. I love to drive. And I love luxury. I don't have much in material wealth, but I like the feeling of power and control I feel when I get behind the wheel of a well-made machine. I understand people who view them as just a vehicle to get from point A to B, but I've been obsessed with cars since I was a kid and knew every model on the road. Everyone has something they love, and for me it's cars. I don't buy them for the status or the looks I get from people. I buy them for the way they make me feel.

^ 1957 or 1958 Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty Special

1958

Last car I bought was a Ford Escape (2005). I can't believe how much Ford has shrunk down their current models, they're the size of a VW Rabbit now. The Escape then was a great vehicle for it's time. A lightweight SUV with great visibility that was easy on gas (as far as SUV's go). I'm not a soccer mom hauling kids around, but it was convenient when shopping in general, and picking up friends to go somewhere together. Ford does seriously need to up their game to deal with rusting on their vehicles.

You can tell more about a person by looking in the car rather then the car itself. If the car is a mess, so is the owner.

LOL the car is the ONE thing that is to keep in order.

R329 = owner of late model Volvo

R334 - which cars do you drive or own?

LOL. Whoever started this post must own a Volvo dealership. At least I hope they do, otherwise they are wrapped up in their identity as a Volvo owner in a decidedly unhealthy way.

[quote] Volvo = old money, probably has an Ivy league degree in art history (especially if it's a beater) Assumptions you make about people based on the car they drive

[quote] R80 you want to avoid Volvos made in the early/mid-2000s, when Ford bought them out--the quality went to shit during that period and most of them had numerous electrical and/or transmission problem.I had a 1997 850 (one of the last "older" ones when they were still made in Sweden) and loved that car. The newer Volvos post-2010 are solid now that Ford isn't at the helm. Assumptions you make about people based on the car they drive

[quote] Every granola stoner, snowboarder, their mom, and their dyke aunt drives a Subaru. They've been completely enervated. Boring. Volvos are no hotrod, but they are way classier than any Subaru.

[quote] if anything, it's more true today than it was in 1992. Volvo did not really become a luxury brand until the late '90s. Today, they're something of an "anti-status" luxury car--classy, more utilitarian and practical than something like a Mercedes or BMW, but still in the family of European luxury cars. Aside from the period when Ford owned them (which was basically all of the 2000s, if I recall correctly), they've had a reputation for being very reliable cars that sustain their value. Subarus have a similar reputation for reliability, but they still aren't luxury vehicles.

[quote] >>So should I think Volvo owners are somehow better people?>> No, but it does suggest they had enough conviction to not readily hop on the Subaru bandwagon like every desperate hipster and bulldyke in the United States. Assumptions you make about people based on the car they drive

[quote] Volvos are nice cars, but they're not *too* nice to the point that you look like a status-obsessed prick driving them. They have an understated classiness about them that you either get or you don't. As it's been noted, the highly-educated and/or old money types tend to drive them for that exact reason.

R341 - Lexus.

[quote] You can tell more about a person by looking in the car rather then the car itself. If the car is a mess, so is the owner.

I do judge someone by the inside of their car. It's a mini house.

I had an old car, though, that was not great inside. My assigned parking spot was under a tree, next to some bushes. At some point, cockroaches made their way inside. My mechanic suggested I use one of those insecticide bombs, so I tried that. Bad idea. Worked (killed roaches), but left a film on things.

roaches in your car? never tell anyone that.

R344, so get the interior cleaned and detailed.

I own three cars , one of which is a 2017 Toyota Camry LE. Am I boring?