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Tony Hsieh’s Nitrous Oxide Use, Love of Candles May Have Contributed to Tragic Death

Former Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh’s affinity for nitrous oxide, alcohol and candles concerned those closest to him in his final days — and has led some to believe his hard-partying ways contributed to his inability to escape the fire that ultimately killed him, TheWrap has learned.

In the months leading up to his Nov. 27 death in Connecticut, Hsieh, 46, had gone on a buying spree in Park City, Utah, the posh mountain town that is home to the Sundance Film Festival and a go-to vacation spot for celebrities like Will Smith, Robert Redford and Michael Jordan.

The entrepreneur raised eyebrows there with his use of nitrous oxide and massive use of candles – a dangerous combination.

“People in Park City say Tony Hsieh was high on nitrous oxide all the time and behaved very erratically — Howard Hughes-style — with 500 candles burning in his home — creating a fire threat that the local fire department had to manage,” a person with knowledge of Hsieh’s relationships in Park City told TheWrap.

Since March, Hseih had purchased 15 Park City homes, totaling 57 bedrooms, 71.5 bathrooms and more than 68,000 square feet, according to Curbed. Throw in two vacant lots he purchased, and Hseih’s Park City investment was worth around $56 million.

Park City Fire District reps did not respond to TheWrap’s request for comment. Nitrous oxide is not flammable but can accelerate the burning process.

It’s unclear why Hsieh had spent millions on Park City real estate; one possibility is that he was looking for a new tech hub to replicate his success in revitalizing downtown Las Vegas where he’d invested hundreds of millions of dollars.

The Daily Mail on Wednesday also reported that Hsieh’s drug use worried those closest to him and had accelerated since stepping down as Zappos CEO last summer. Hsieh’s “drug of choice” was nitrous oxide, the site reported, in the form of “whippets” from whipped cream dispensers.

“His heavy alcohol and drug use was known by everyone around him,” one unnamed colleague told the Daily Mail. “Anyone that challenged him about it was cast aside.”

The colleague said many in his inner circle are now asking if Hsieh’s drug use could have played a role in his tragic death.

Early on the morning of Nov. 18, firefighters were called to a home in New London, Connecticut, and told Hsieh was trapped inside, according to the Hartford Courant. Hsieh was pulled unconscious from the home and CPR was administered before he was later taken to a local hospital. He died last Friday, nine days after the fire. Medical examiners on Monday ruled it an accident and said his death was due to injuries caused by smoke inhalation.

Still, the circumstances surrounding Hsieh’s death remain unclear. An emergency dispatcher, in audio obtained by The Daily Mail, said the fire was in a “shed that is attached to the exterior of the house,” and that a “male is barricaded inside” and unresponsive. “Everyone else is outside the house,” the dispatcher said. “They are trying to get him to open up.” Later, New London Fire Captain Brian Wright said that people at the home told firefighters Hsieh was “locked inside” a storage area and that first responders had to bust the door in to get to him.

The discrepancies have left a handful of lingering questions, including whether Hsieh was “barricaded” or “locked” inside the room. The fire, as well as Hsieh’s inability to escape it, could be tied to his drug use, the colleague said.

“The talk among his former colleagues at Zappos is that Tony was likely in the shed blacked out drunk and on drugs,” the colleague said. “He was a major alcoholic and a drug addict. He was hardcore.”

The son of Taiwanese immigrants, Hsieh graduated from Harvard University before embarking on a successful career as an entrepreneur, venture capitalist and civic leader.

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by Anonymousreply 119December 9, 2020 1:38 AM

Prior to joining Zappos, Hsieh co-founded the online advertising network LinkExchange, which he sold to Microsoft in 1998 for $265 million.

While at Zappos, he also became a leading figure in public and private efforts to redevelop downtown Las Vegas. In 2013, he moved Zappos’ headquarters to the former Las Vegas City Hall building and pledged $350 million to other revitalization efforts.

“Tony Hsieh played a pivotal role in helping transform Downtown Las Vegas,” Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak tweeted. “Kathy and I send our love and condolences to Tony’s family and friends during this difficult time.”

by Anonymousreply 1December 3, 2020 5:58 PM

Nitrous Oxide high goes away very quickly. Did he walking around with an iv drip? Sheeeeesh!

by Anonymousreply 2December 3, 2020 6:04 PM

Okay, that explains it. Poor guy.

by Anonymousreply 3December 3, 2020 6:05 PM

Sad story

by Anonymousreply 4December 3, 2020 6:06 PM

[quote] Nitrous Oxide high goes away very quickly. Did he walking around with an iv drip? Sheeeeesh!

Not when you binge one whippet after another. You can lose consciousness while still able to move around,

by Anonymousreply 5December 3, 2020 6:07 PM

Damn!

No wonder he was always so loopy, according to people who knew him.

It probably contributed to his attention deficit disorder.

by Anonymousreply 6December 3, 2020 6:08 PM

Some people can't handle success and a billion dollar fortune, it's ti much for some people.

by Anonymousreply 7December 3, 2020 6:11 PM

So basically, he was a crackhead.

But I guess it's okay, because he was rich.

by Anonymousreply 8December 3, 2020 6:11 PM

I told you all early in the first thread about this - in as kind a way as I could phrase it - that he was nuts. But nooooooo. The signs were there from way back and they were publicly aired in writings about his behavior. Having access to gobs of money doesn't alleviate mental illness - it often just makes it easier to hide and acceptable and excusable to those who want to benefit from that money.

This is very sad.

by Anonymousreply 9December 3, 2020 6:12 PM

[quote] Some people can't handle success and a billion dollar fortune, it's ti much for some people.

Not to mention, he was probably a closet case.

Billionaire. 46 years old. Not married. No girlfriend. Straight?

Sure, Jan.

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by Anonymousreply 10December 3, 2020 6:13 PM

R1....he sold a company for $265m when he was 24!!????

What have I done with my life????

by Anonymousreply 11December 3, 2020 6:13 PM

As William James reported, for some people, nitrous oxide induces spiritual connections.

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by Anonymousreply 12December 3, 2020 6:14 PM

he had issues with his big alien head obviously.

by Anonymousreply 13December 3, 2020 6:14 PM

How in the hell can I get my hands on some nitrous oxide?

Sounds fucking fun!!!

by Anonymousreply 14December 3, 2020 6:16 PM

I want a big ole super sized can of whipped cream now, and a bucket of vanilla chocolate swirl ice cream.

I might have to go to publix later a get me some. I don't know about the whippet stuff, but whipped cream I do.

I might even get some of those sugar cookies with the color sprinkles publix sells too.

And I don't type fat, so don't try it!

by Anonymousreply 15December 3, 2020 6:24 PM

Is that a hint, R15?

Are you telling me that I can get high breathing in the whipped cream canisters?

I think I saw something that alluded to this on that Marky Mark movie "Shooter."

He anesthetized himself by inhaling empty whipped cream canisters.

by Anonymousreply 16December 3, 2020 6:27 PM

What do they do with all that cream?

by Anonymousreply 17December 3, 2020 6:28 PM

This asshole with his thousands of candles is better off dead having killed NOBODY but himself through his dangerous obsession.

by Anonymousreply 18December 3, 2020 6:29 PM

Don't shake. Inhale. Are you a retard?

by Anonymousreply 19December 3, 2020 6:29 PM

I wonder who will play him in the movie. How about a black transgender?

by Anonymousreply 20December 3, 2020 6:30 PM

R16 NO! That's not a "hint" I really do want whipped cream and ice cream, LOL.

I don't do drugs period.

by Anonymousreply 21December 3, 2020 6:31 PM

[quote]Hsieh, 46, had gone on a buying spree in Park City, Utah

Curiously, the city where he died, Bridgeport, CT, has the nickname "Park City."

by Anonymousreply 22December 3, 2020 6:39 PM

Cream is whipped inside the can by nitrous oxide. But that’s a pretty inefficient way to dose. You can buy canisters of nitrous that are meant for reusable whipped cream dispensers.

by Anonymousreply 23December 3, 2020 6:40 PM

He was a gay, right? So maybe he wasn't accepted by his immigrant parents who never made it out of Stratford, and so he took solace in drugs and candleglow in the garage, and thereby met his end. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 24December 3, 2020 6:44 PM

I'm guessing he had pressurized canisters of the nitrous oxide & that one or more of those canisters exploded.

In the other thread, someone posted something about his attitude towards drug / alcohol use in the work place. He didn't want to place rules for the 0.1% who had a problem when 99.9% did not have a problem. He sounded delusional.

by Anonymousreply 25December 3, 2020 6:45 PM

Who were the people who lived with him and helped the firefighters to locate him (where he was trapped)? Is foul play suspected?

And what is the deal with the lit candles? Is it part of some spiritual psychedelic trip?

by Anonymousreply 26December 3, 2020 6:46 PM

R20 is the anti-trans troll who invades threads that aren't about trans people

by Anonymousreply 27December 3, 2020 6:48 PM

Nitrous can do funny things to your sensory perception. Mostly sound, but maybe he liked to watch flames.

There are certain obvious dangers with nitrous. Obviously people who release a big tank in an enclosed space can suffocate. Open flames and a disassociated state of consciousness is another. You’d think he’d have realized that.

by Anonymousreply 28December 3, 2020 6:51 PM

Did he die in a modest house? Because that's what I saw, or was it the wrong picture? Did he live in a mansion?

by Anonymousreply 29December 3, 2020 6:51 PM

He was with family in CT, not in his own house.

by Anonymousreply 30December 3, 2020 6:53 PM

R30 But why does his family live in such a normal house? Especially when their son is a billionaire?

by Anonymousreply 31December 3, 2020 6:55 PM

Harvard, huh?

by Anonymousreply 32December 3, 2020 6:56 PM

It was a woman friend's house. The woman had been employed at his company since the early days, like 20 years ago. Yes, it was a relatively modest-looking house, but still a nice house. Apparently, a brother of his lived in the area as well.

by Anonymousreply 33December 3, 2020 6:56 PM

So, he got high at a friend's house and lit all the candles he could find?

by Anonymousreply 34December 3, 2020 6:58 PM

He bought the house for the friend.

by Anonymousreply 35December 3, 2020 6:58 PM

He got high and lit a bunch of candles in a shed?

by Anonymousreply 36December 3, 2020 7:00 PM

This story is very bizarre. It's just sad and weird.

by Anonymousreply 37December 3, 2020 7:02 PM

He must've had medical tanks of it.

by Anonymousreply 38December 3, 2020 7:06 PM

Very sad. Sometimes the pressures that immigrant parents put on their children to succeed can be overwhelming.

by Anonymousreply 39December 3, 2020 7:18 PM

Hmmmm.

Flammable gas + candles.

What could possibly go wrong?

by Anonymousreply 40December 3, 2020 7:26 PM

Any gay rumors about this guy?

Or was he completely celibate?

He certainly wasn't partying with any women, or there would have been stories.

by Anonymousreply 41December 3, 2020 7:37 PM

This makes me feel better about not getting into Harvard. I haven't accidentally killed myself, I win!

by Anonymousreply 42December 3, 2020 7:53 PM

Nitrous isn’t flammable.

by Anonymousreply 43December 3, 2020 8:02 PM

Actually, r42, a great many Harvard alumni have not accidentally killed themselves.

by Anonymousreply 44December 3, 2020 8:04 PM

Wow, looks like Tiger Mom failed big time on this one.

by Anonymousreply 45December 3, 2020 8:11 PM

Here's the set up you need people. Don't go all acting a fool trying to suck on a whipped cream can at the grocery store. Amateur hour!

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by Anonymousreply 46December 3, 2020 8:12 PM

Sorry, R46.

I don't need any more gas up my ass.

I've got plenty already.

by Anonymousreply 47December 3, 2020 8:14 PM

Was this on his iPod?

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by Anonymousreply 48December 3, 2020 8:20 PM

R48 Lay Down (Candles in the Rain)

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by Anonymousreply 49December 3, 2020 8:22 PM

Don’t forget Sir Reggie!

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by Anonymousreply 50December 3, 2020 8:25 PM

What was on his iPod?

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by Anonymousreply 51December 3, 2020 8:35 PM

Maybe he was asexual. They put the (first) A in LGBTQIAA+.

by Anonymousreply 52December 3, 2020 8:36 PM

Humans love getting fucked up. It is our nature. Sometimes I feel like a sucker for being sober. We seek oblivion as much as we seek air.

by Anonymousreply 53December 3, 2020 8:36 PM

Are whippets better than poppers for sex? I don’t think i’ve ever heard of anyone using them recreationally other than teenagers

by Anonymousreply 54December 3, 2020 8:40 PM

[quote]Nitrous isn’t flammable.

From OP's article: "Nitrous oxide is not flammable but can accelerate the burning process."

by Anonymousreply 55December 3, 2020 8:43 PM

Whippets are useless for sex. You’re incapacitated during the brief high.

by Anonymousreply 56December 3, 2020 8:46 PM

R55, maybe it is like fire around an oxygen tank. The pure oxygen is not itself flammable but will make other things burn explosively if they catch fire.

by Anonymousreply 57December 3, 2020 8:47 PM

Demi Moore checked into rehab for whippet abuse/addiction about a decade ago.

by Anonymousreply 58December 3, 2020 8:48 PM

I can't imagine being addicted to whippets. Of all the drugs (good ones too) that he could afford - why go for the shit that kids do when they're 20?

by Anonymousreply 59December 3, 2020 8:52 PM

Nitrous can act as an oxidizer and is used for that purpose in car engines, however it must first be heated to 570 degrees F

by Anonymousreply 60December 3, 2020 8:52 PM

Like that girl on A&E show and the computer cleaner!

by Anonymousreply 61December 3, 2020 9:01 PM

Yes, this is what I kept thinking when I heard about his death - that there had to be a piece we were missing.

Very sad.

by Anonymousreply 62December 3, 2020 9:02 PM

is this what has been referred to as "laughing gas"? or in his case, " laughing all the way to the bank " gas

by Anonymousreply 63December 3, 2020 9:05 PM

Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead liked to use nitrous oxide. A Deadhead friend told me she partied with Garcia, using nitrous oxide.

by Anonymousreply 64December 3, 2020 9:25 PM

Oh, dear! At least he wasn’t drunk on Trump wine. Forget that I said we were friends...

Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) Tweeted:

Celebrating the life while mourning the loss of my dear friend Tony Hsieh. Tony was a deeply original thinker always challenging me to reject conformity & follow my heart. Tony was driven by the mission of delivering happiness & brought joy to all who knew him. Rest In Peace Tony

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by Anonymousreply 65December 3, 2020 9:49 PM

Go figure that “Delivering Happiness” was code.

by Anonymousreply 66December 3, 2020 9:50 PM

WHET ketamine?

by Anonymousreply 67December 3, 2020 11:29 PM

I thought that Trump and his family don't like minorities..

They probably made fun of him behind his back, talking about Jinah.

by Anonymousreply 68December 3, 2020 11:33 PM

This is probably a shot in the dark but.... can I have his stuff?

by Anonymousreply 69December 3, 2020 11:37 PM

[quote] This is probably a shot in the dark but.... can I have his stuff?

HA!

Sorry R69, but do you honestly think that his dragon lady Tiger Mom will even let go of one PENNY of his money?

She would sooner chop you up and put you into her pot stickers, than see you take any of her son's money.

by Anonymousreply 70December 3, 2020 11:57 PM

What dragon lady tiger mom? Or are you just dealing in racist stereotypes?

by Anonymousreply 71December 3, 2020 11:59 PM

Nice hat!

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by Anonymousreply 72December 4, 2020 12:02 AM

He died intestate, R69. Get your claim in now.

by Anonymousreply 73December 4, 2020 12:02 AM

Love the hair.

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by Anonymousreply 74December 4, 2020 12:02 AM

[quote] He died intestate

Seriously???

Damn, WTF is that all about?

It's going to be a free-for-all with the grifters.

by Anonymousreply 75December 4, 2020 12:04 AM

I bet he was making Yankee Candle review videos for YouTube and just passed out.

by Anonymousreply 76December 4, 2020 12:09 AM

Hsieh's estate is going to be like the Oklahoma land rush!

How can I stake my claim?

by Anonymousreply 77December 4, 2020 12:13 AM

Well, that’s what the family is saying, r75. Who knows? It’s possible he left it all to an alpaca sanctuary, Burning Man, or just some guy he talked to in a bar for five minutes. They want to get into those safe deposit boxes and find out what surprises they hold.

Muriel isn’t letting me link to the father and brother’s application to be be appointed special administrators.

by Anonymousreply 78December 4, 2020 12:29 AM

I hope he left all his money to the Downtown Las Vegas rejuvenation project.

That would be fucking hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 79December 4, 2020 12:31 AM

I doubt that. When he had to leave, I'm guessing he wanted to burn all of DTLV to the ground. Probably not the best choice of words, but you know what I mean.

Then again, it's possible he had an old will and his final wish was for everyone who lives there to receive a daily delivery from Evel Pie until his estate runs out.

by Anonymousreply 80December 4, 2020 12:38 AM

850 million dollars and no will; He must be GAY!! HE married me. Phillywhore 2 weeks ago. I am finally a Billionaire. I know longer be "WHITE TRASH".

by Anonymousreply 81December 4, 2020 12:47 AM

Enter Jewel:

[quote]But within a day, Jewel abruptly left. Shortly after, the singer sent Hsieh a letter via FedEx, since he had forsworn email and texts as part of a digital cleanse.

[quote]“I am going to be blunt,” she wrote in the letter, the content of which was shared with Forbes. “I need to tell you that I don’t think you are well and in your right mind. I think you are taking too many drugs that cause you to disassociate.”

[quote]She continued: “The people you are surrounding yourself with are either ignorant or willing to be complicit in you killing yourself.”

[quote]“When you look around and realize that every single person around you is on your payroll, then you are in trouble,” Jewel wrote in that August letter (a representative for Jewel declined to comment). “You are in trouble, Tony.”

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by Anonymousreply 82December 4, 2020 10:53 PM

Sad story. Money doesn't always buy happiness.

by Anonymousreply 83December 4, 2020 11:13 PM

Back in the 80s my office was on the same floor as a medical supply company. I came into the office one morning and cops were all over my floor. Turned out an employee of the medical supply company had come into their office the night before specifically to huff nitrous oxide all night long. Problem was he did it so much he killed himself and they found his body the next morning.

by Anonymousreply 84December 4, 2020 11:16 PM

Yeah NO2 is an oxidizer - so open flames around it aren't a good idea. That said NO2 in a car engine is awesome.

by Anonymousreply 85December 4, 2020 11:25 PM

[quote]Mr. Hsieh became fixated on trying to figure out what his body could live without, according to one friend. He starved himself of food, whittling away to under 100 pounds; he tried not to urinate; and he deprived himself of oxygen, turning toward nitrous oxide, which can induce hypoxia, this person said.

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[quote]There were signs Mr. Hsieh knew he was in trouble. On the night he died, he was making plans to check into a rehabilitation clinic in Hawaii. He was in New London staying with a longtime girlfriend and former Zappos executive, Rachael Brown, along with one of his brothers, Andy Hsieh, and others, said people close to him.

[quote]Mr. Hsieh at one point said he was going to a shed that was attached to the home, and asked the people in the house to check on him every five minutes, by the people’s account. They said Tony used a heater in the shed to lower the oxygen level.

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[quote]According to Dr. Guadagnoli, Mr. Hsieh ran experiments on himself—limiting his sleep to four hours a day and climbing the three highest peaks in Southern California in one day.

[quote]He tried a 26-day diet, eating only foods that started with the letter “A” on the first day and progressing through the alphabet each day. Some letters offered indulgences. The final “Z” day amounted nearly to fasting, according to one friend, Paul Carr.

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by Anonymousreply 86December 7, 2020 2:42 AM

R86, sounds like a mental case!

everyone knows what happens if you try to hold your urine! UTI! I don't need no harvard education for that!

Deprive your body of oxygen? He's fucking crazy.

by Anonymousreply 87December 7, 2020 3:14 AM

well, I doubt his cock worked with all the booze and drugs he was doing...

I'm guessing self-hating gay...

RIP.

by Anonymousreply 88December 7, 2020 3:17 AM

Seems that being a billionaire makes you such a megalomaniac, you start thinking the rules of nature don't apply to you.

by Anonymousreply 89December 7, 2020 3:48 AM

This guy explains the effects of many drugs on his channel. According to him high doses of nitrous oxide do disconnect you like many hallucinogenic drugs.

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by Anonymousreply 90December 7, 2020 3:52 AM

Jack Dorsey is into body biohacking too.

by Anonymousreply 91December 7, 2020 3:52 AM

This is how he played beer pong. On top of multiple Roombas and flamethrowers.

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by Anonymousreply 92December 7, 2020 4:57 AM

Like the dust off girl from intervention! We used to do whip it’s when we were kids with those cartridges you can buy at kitchen stores, but (not really that great) high lasts like 30 seconds , I can’t imagine huffing that all day.

by Anonymousreply 93December 7, 2020 5:02 AM

He was friends with Mohammed Al Turki and was one of the producers (?) of Al Turki’s movie Dreamland (not yet released).

by Anonymousreply 94December 7, 2020 5:21 AM

[quote] The entrepreneur raised eyebrows there with his use of nitrous oxide and massive use of candles

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by Anonymousreply 95December 7, 2020 5:34 AM

[quote] Seems that being a billionaire makes you such a megalomaniac, you start thinking the rules of nature don't apply to you.

You really nailed it, R89.

Howard Hughes, Jack Dorsey, Tony Hsieh.

When people make that much money, it seems that they start to develop a god-complex.

It's pretty disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 96December 7, 2020 5:45 AM

I knew Flickr would come through with some pictures of his apartment as it was during the time I lived at the Ogden. Too bad Twitpic and Photobucket aren't still around.

I don't know if it was mentioned before but this is the same cursed building from which Stephen Paddock was originally going to carry out his shooting spree. His first choice had been the Life Is Beautiful festival, started by....guess who?

Below is one of the three combined units Tony Hsieh lived in. Keep in mind, this was his living space. He had other unoccupied units throughout the building that were designated as party spaces. He also had a Southern Highlands house but he didn't last long with the HOA and while he kept that house until the end, I don't think he ever lived in it again. There were (are?) other party houses strewn about the Valley as well.

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by Anonymousreply 97December 7, 2020 5:57 AM
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by Anonymousreply 98December 7, 2020 5:59 AM

Oops, wrong link at R98. It was meant to be his Fernet dispenser.

I mean, who among us doesn't have one?

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by Anonymousreply 99December 7, 2020 6:08 AM

R69, Accompanied a group of seniors on a tour of Zappos. At that time Tony's spirit animal was a monkey and vines along with stuffed monkeys were the decorations. There was a bell for anyone to hit at random, potluck snacks, and an entire sleeping room for staff who were college students and needed a rest break. Needless to say the dress code was extremely casual and punk rock hair styles and heavy tattoos were not considered unusual.

Amusing looking at the faces of the very elderly women reacting to the child's playground of an office environment while they recalled their own very 1st office jobs back in NYC with white gloves being de rigeur.

by Anonymousreply 100December 7, 2020 6:22 AM

Tony’s apartment wall.

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by Anonymousreply 101December 7, 2020 8:00 AM

When Morons Have Money.

by Anonymousreply 102December 7, 2020 8:10 AM

R16, Re-read the OP.

by Anonymousreply 103December 7, 2020 8:15 AM

R86, That "diet" sounds like fun! Apples and artichokes, bread and butter, crackers and cheese, etc. I don't know why "Z" would pose a problem, with zucchini. Now "X".....

by Anonymousreply 104December 7, 2020 8:22 AM

All that money. Still deeply unhappy.

by Anonymousreply 105December 7, 2020 8:24 AM

R99 - I love Frenet but that's odd for an American.

by Anonymousreply 106December 7, 2020 8:28 AM

Jewel was a good friend to write that letter. He was too far gone though to take the advice.

Was the shed made of metal? What I don't get is the friends not being able to break in and drag him out...I hope they tried. The firefighters would have had to pry me away when they got there. If it was regular drywall/wood/lath construction, how did they not break the door in?

Also, pro-tip: if you need to bust in somewhere fast, the wall is actually easier to breach, provided you have something to break through with.

by Anonymousreply 107December 7, 2020 9:10 AM

What a loser.

Something was seriously wrong with this guy.

He sounds like a fucking mental case.

by Anonymousreply 108December 7, 2020 7:36 PM

^ Don't forget Steve Jobs, who thought he could cure his cancer with a macrobiotic diet.

by Anonymousreply 109December 8, 2020 12:08 AM

Wouldn’t Steve Jobs still be alive today if he didn’t treat himself? Did he just want to die?

by Anonymousreply 110December 8, 2020 12:24 AM

[quote] Also, pro-tip: if you need to bust in somewhere fast, the wall is actually easier to breach, provided you have something to break through with.

Yes, thanks for the reminder. I saw that in Rookie Blue.

by Anonymousreply 111December 8, 2020 6:11 AM

Elon seems the type to die in a similarly druggy way.

by Anonymousreply 112December 8, 2020 7:03 AM

[quote]PARK CITY, Utah — Tony Hsieh was making waves in this wealthy ski town, throwing frequent parties at his new mansion protected by security guards. Then around Labor Day, out came the flamethrower.

[quote]Flames shot maybe 20 or 25 feet up every few seconds or so one night over the holiday weekend from something mounted on the ground, recalled a local resident, who was worried it would spark a wildfire.

[quote]“It was like a dragon’s breath,” the resident said.

[quote]It also was one of many bizarre or eyebrow-raising aspects of Hsieh’s venture in Utah, a still-mysterious undertaking that allegedly featured drugs, walls of Post-it notes, promises of “arts and culture,” workers bound by nondisclosure agreements, and, records show, a homebuying binge in an ultra-high-priced market.

[quote]Hsieh’s mansion was a visible party spot. The local resident said that in late August through Labor Day, it seemed to host a party almost every night, and at one point over an eight- or nine-day period, there seemed to be pyrotechnics at least five times at the house, including the apparent ground-mounted flamethrower.

[quote]As of last week, his mansion had some visible signs of the unorthodox lifestyle he was known for in Las Vegas. A massive, decorative orange octopus was on the front lawn, and some trailers and tiny homes, seemingly identical to those in the Airstream park where Hsieh lived in downtown Las Vegas with a pet alpaca, were at the back of the property.

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by Anonymousreply 113December 9, 2020 12:50 AM

Who is feeding the alpaca?

by Anonymousreply 114December 9, 2020 12:54 AM

[quote] Who is feeding the alpaca?

Genevieve Padalecki.

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by Anonymousreply 115December 9, 2020 12:58 AM

What happens to all of his “followers” now that he is gone? What will they do?

by Anonymousreply 116December 9, 2020 12:59 AM

One general takeaway from this is that the billionaires need to be taxed down to size. No one needs to go on a mansion-buying spree, let alone a mental case at a time when thousands of people can't get basic medical care or feed themselves.

by Anonymousreply 117December 9, 2020 1:17 AM

his friends with kids go to bed at 930pm? Is this for real?

by Anonymousreply 118December 9, 2020 1:27 AM

Seems like he lived the perpetual frat boy life. Fraternity row Peter Pan on unlimited income.

by Anonymousreply 119December 9, 2020 1:38 AM
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