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Trump allies urge pardons for the entire family. "The kids have been through enough!"

As White House aides come to terms with the election results and turn their focus to the remaining weeks of President Trump's administration, multiple sources tell ABC News that various Trump allies and other lawyers have begun a campaign to petition the West Wing in hopes of securing pardons for those who might receive a sympathetic reception from the president.

Those in the mix for a potential pardon have ranged from family members and associates all the way to the Tiger King, according to sources.

The growing list is divided into two groups: those being pushed by Trump allies and friends, and requests from individuals serving sentences who aren't necessarily familiar to the president.

The process is not unique to the Trump administration, but some sources say that Trump is prone to subvert the normal procedures when it comes to pardoning, and could announce one-offs as he sees fit rather than waiting until the very end of his term as past presidents have done.

Trump has not fully turned his attention to the growing list of requests, but vetting has already commenced in some cases by White House lawyers, sources say.

One idea that has been floated among Trump allies is the possibility of preemptive pardons for members of the Trump family and close allies of the president.

"The president out the door needs to pardon his whole family and himself because they want this witch hunt to go on in perpetuity, they're so full of rage and insanity against the president," Trump ally and Fox News host Sean Hannity said on his radio program Monday.

White House sources, who describe the talks as preliminary and fluid, say the push for preemptive pardons began early this year around the time of the president's impeachment trial. At that time, the informal conversations -- described by sources as a "series of hypotheticals" -- focused specifically on whether the president could pardon himself. But in recent weeks the idea of preemptive pardons has returned to the Trump orbit, this time including allies and members of his family.

It's not clear how this kind of preemptive pardon would work, given that no member of the Trump family has been accused of a federal crime. However sources pushing for this action say the argument is an "insurance policy" against concerns that the incoming Biden administration could undertake politically motivated investigations. As evidence, sources point to investigations currently being pursued by New York State Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance, both of whom are Democrats.

"The kids have been through enough," said one top adviser who is pushing for the president to issue preemptive pardons for his children.

But sources say Trump has not to this point embraced the idea of preemptive pardons, with some aides concerned that a preemptive pardon could be seen as an admission of guilt of some kind.

The conversations surrounding preemptive pardons have also included Trump allies like the president's personal attorney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, whose former associates have been charged by federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York.

Giuliani, according to sources, has asked the president directly for a preemptive pardon in recent weeks. News of a potential preemptive pardon for Giuliani was first reported Tuesday by the New York Times, after which Giuliani responded on Twitter by calling the story "#fakenews."

The president is well within his authority to issue preemptive pardons, according to legal experts. H. Jefferson Powell, a Duke law professor who previously worked in the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel, told ABC News that the White House has "consistently" taken the position for decades that "the president may pardon even though there has been no conviction."

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by Anonymousreply 102December 6, 2020 5:08 AM

"A Supreme Court case in 1866 established this," said Michael Waldman, president of the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at New York University. "Two noteworthy examples: President Jimmy Carter pardoned the draft dodgers in 1977 before most had been charged. And of course, President Ford pardoned President Nixon before he was charged" for his actions during the Watergate scandal.

Powell, however, said that preemptive pardons for which the crime is not clear can be "tricky," because they must be specific enough about the conduct in question that a court down the line can determine its scope.

"There is no entire get out of jail free card," Powell said.

There are also no restrictions preventing Trump from pardoning family members, constitutional experts told ABC News, and it has been done before. President Bill Clinton pardoned his half-brother, though it was done after a conviction.

"It might be unseemly, might be a conflict of interest, but I don't know that it would be unconstitutional," said Louis Seidman, a professor at Georgetown who clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall.

The president's first postelection pardon, of his first national security adviser, former Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, has been described by sources as the beginning of a trend. The president is expected to announce more pardons over the coming weeks and will not necessarily wait until his last days in office as former presidents have typically done, sources involved in the deliberations say.

"We've heard from the Tiger King," said one source, who added, "You wouldn't believe the amount of calls, some insane, we've gotten."

"We are waiting on the pen to hit the paper, we think we are very, very close," Eric Love, an attorney for Joseph Maldano-Passage, aka Tiger King Joe Exotic, said about a potential presidential pardon.

by Anonymousreply 1December 2, 2020 1:07 AM

[quote] "The kids have been through enough," said one top adviser who is pushing for the president to issue preemptive pardons for his children.

Oh, the poor dears!

by Anonymousreply 2December 2, 2020 1:07 AM

Oh, the poor dears.

by Anonymousreply 3December 2, 2020 1:09 AM

Leticia James and NYS are going to hang them high - for state charges that can't be pardoned.

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by Anonymousreply 4December 2, 2020 1:11 AM

NO ONE voted for the tRump spawn to stick their artificial noses in the middle of the government. WE'VE been through ENOUGH!

by Anonymousreply 5December 2, 2020 1:12 AM

What’s to stop him from pardoning every inmate in the entire federal prison system. As I understand it there are no restraints on the president’s power of the pardon and it would fuck us up really good if he unleashed hundreds of thousands of convicts on the country as a parting gift.

by Anonymousreply 6December 2, 2020 1:12 AM

They aren't kids, they're ADULTS! They chose to follow their piece of shit father down the Trail of Treason and need to be held accountable for that decision.

by Anonymousreply 7December 2, 2020 1:15 AM

He will rightfully go down in history as the "worst president ever" but he's too self-centered to grasp and believe this. He has lived his entire life in a protective bubble of wealth and privilege.

Still, he'll probably be surprised to find himself seated across from Satan when he finally croaks.

by Anonymousreply 8December 2, 2020 1:19 AM

r6 Nothing really. Carter granted an unconditional pardon to hundreds of thousands of men who evaded the draft during the Vietnam War

by Anonymousreply 9December 2, 2020 1:19 AM

[quote]"The kids have been through enough!"

What they've been through pales compared with what they put America though.

by Anonymousreply 10December 2, 2020 1:20 AM

A CIA induced heart attack is imminent for that orange porker if he goes much farther off the rails.

They've killed smarter, more important men for less upheaval.

That fat old bitch and his mutant children need to kickstart what Gray matter they have under the plastic and fake tan and realize they in danga! Better STFU!

by Anonymousreply 11December 2, 2020 1:22 AM

Aspiring grifter Barron too?

by Anonymousreply 12December 2, 2020 1:23 AM

Trump allies aren't concerned with pardons because the chances of them being indicted are really slim. It's not happening. It will set a bad precodent and future potus from both parties will be indicted because they all break laws.

by Anonymousreply 13December 2, 2020 1:24 AM

"The kids have been through enough!"

If it's through an actual meat grinder, I'll agree with this.

by Anonymousreply 14December 2, 2020 1:25 AM

I don't have many Maga rats get pissed it is DEFINITELY time to challenge every one of his miserable pardons in court.

by Anonymousreply 15December 2, 2020 1:27 AM

The son in law obviously helped with the execution of koshoggi (sp?). And he's been in bed with all the middle east assholes. They all need to burn for their bullshit. I think the kids are going down for tax fraud as well so no hope but please...biden cannot pardon any of these asswipes it would not be healing it would even make me feel like the system is "rigged" ...they all need to pay for their crimes. As an aside you know trump would be an asshole and not pardon Don Jr..lol

by Anonymousreply 16December 2, 2020 1:30 AM

Already guilty!

by Anonymousreply 17December 2, 2020 1:32 AM

Not a fucking chance. I want them all to burn in hell.

by Anonymousreply 18December 2, 2020 1:35 AM

[quote] It will set a bad precodent

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 19December 2, 2020 1:38 AM

I think the walls are closing in on investigations involving the Trump family and Giuliani. Bribes, etc. The assumption is that anyone who receives a pardon has committed a crime.

by Anonymousreply 20December 2, 2020 1:38 AM

I want a preemptive pardon for all the banks i'd like to rob in the next couple of years. Thanks Donnie!

by Anonymousreply 21December 2, 2020 1:38 AM

The kids? They are not kids.

No one forced them to participate in a life of crime. The Trump adult children are complicit in crimes against the country.

by Anonymousreply 22December 2, 2020 1:39 AM

R6, thats a lot different

by Anonymousreply 23December 2, 2020 1:39 AM

[quote]The son in law obviously helped with the execution of koshoggi (sp?). And he's been in bed with all the middle east assholes. They all need to burn for their bullshit.

Honey, he's a Zionist prick doing Israel and Saudi bidding and I don't doubt he's over there right now trying to get a war with Iran started because not enough Americans and Middle Eastern civilians have died on behalf of wars his ilk pushes. And if anyone has a problem with me saying the obvious about people like him, kiss my Palestinian ass.

He's not an American; never has been and never will be. It's scum like him and his special interest who've created the enemies in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 24December 2, 2020 1:41 AM

[quote] "The president out the door needs to pardon his whole family and himself because they want this witch hunt to go on in perpetuity, they're so full of rage and insanity against the president," Trump ally and Fox News host Sean Hannity said on his radio program Monday.

Can anyone explain how a "pre-emptive pardon" would work?

Would it be a blanket pardon for any crimes they have committed, past and present? And is that even legal?

I don't understand how this would play out.

by Anonymousreply 25December 2, 2020 1:42 AM

[quote] "We've heard from the Tiger King," said one source, who added, "You wouldn't believe the amount of calls, some insane, we've gotten."

And these assholes would undoubtedly know INSANE.

by Anonymousreply 26December 2, 2020 1:43 AM

It seems really flimsy if they don’t even identify the crimes. And only in Trump world do they play victim and say it’s to protect themselves from Democrats. Do the crime, pay the time, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 27December 2, 2020 1:50 AM

[quote]some aides concerned that a preemptive pardon could be seen as an admission of guilt of some kind

ya, think?

by Anonymousreply 28December 2, 2020 1:54 AM

SCOTUS, in the recent NY tax documents case, said the President is not above the law; nor is he below it. He cannot use his presidential status to block a subpoena, but he doesn’t lose the rights of a citizen to object to the breadth and appropriateness of a subpoena just because he’s president. That’s why the subpoena’s scope is being argued now in court.

So if Trump, his children, son-in-law and others were engaged in a conspiratorial illegal activity, whether to steal the 2016 or 2020 elections (Russia, Ukraine) or some other scheme for Trump’s benefit, he’s still neither above the law nor beneath it.

Thus, he could [italic] receive [/italic] a pardon as a non-president, as could any citizen, but he cannot, as President, place himself above the law by participating in crimes and then pardoning his conspiracy.

So, if they’ve jointly engaged (e.g. “I’m loving it” said Junior Mint) and expect it to hold up in court, the pardon can’t just come from Daddy.

It’s why Ford had to pardon citizen Nixon.

by Anonymousreply 29December 2, 2020 1:56 AM

People who have nothing to hide and have done nothing wrong don't need pardons. Period. Sell it somewhere else you fat chinned vile ape looking ass licking pathetic mongrol.

by Anonymousreply 30December 2, 2020 1:58 AM

What crimes have they done to be pardoned?

This should not happen at all! They all need jail time!

by Anonymousreply 31December 2, 2020 2:00 AM

[quote] "The kids have been through enough!"

Won't someone think of the children?!!!

by Anonymousreply 32December 2, 2020 2:02 AM

Didnt I hear on the news they are investigating a pardon for cash scheme ?

by Anonymousreply 33December 2, 2020 2:05 AM

"The president out the door needs to pardon his whole family and himself because they [meaning the anti-Trumpers] want this witch hunt to go on in perpetuity, they're so full of rage and insanity against the president," Trump ally and Fox News host Sean Hannity said on his radio program Monday.

Really?! That's rich.

by Anonymousreply 34December 2, 2020 2:14 AM

Khashoggi -killer Kushner should be hang, drawn and quartered.

by Anonymousreply 35December 2, 2020 2:17 AM

America is insane.

by Anonymousreply 36December 2, 2020 2:20 AM

Does Hannity's tongue ever come out of Dump's prolapsed asshole?

What an embarrassment he is. Sack up, bitch!

by Anonymousreply 37December 2, 2020 2:45 AM

Tiger King better get that pardon. 22 years is too long for that questionable ass murder for hire charge.

by Anonymousreply 38December 2, 2020 3:28 AM

They're gonna blame everything on Tiffany. Poor dear.

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by Anonymousreply 39December 2, 2020 4:54 AM

That's like giving abortions out before they're pregnant.

by Anonymousreply 40December 2, 2020 6:17 AM

This is what passes for like a Christmas gift for that low-life family.

by Anonymousreply 41December 2, 2020 6:33 AM

[bold]"The kids have been through enough!"[/bold]

Fucking [bold]UNBELIEVABLE![/bold]

by Anonymousreply 42December 2, 2020 7:23 AM

"kids"

The youngest of the three is 36 fucking years old.

by Anonymousreply 43December 2, 2020 7:30 AM

So here it is: pardon myself & my kids or I will burn this country down on the way out. Hannity is his mouthpiece to put that out there, hoping that repig bite as a means to "heal" the country.

by Anonymousreply 44December 2, 2020 8:04 AM

Yep R44.

by Anonymousreply 45December 2, 2020 8:08 AM

This seems to unbelievably corrupt, I don't understand how this is even a thing

by Anonymousreply 46December 2, 2020 9:14 AM

Trump must have gotten the message because the "I won't fund the defense bill unless I can sue Twitter for what trolls said to me" crap he pulled last night is absolutely about screwing the country on his way out.

by Anonymousreply 47December 2, 2020 9:39 AM

Trump must have gotten the message because the "I won't fund the defense bill unless I can sue Twitter for what trolls said to me" crap he pulled last night is absolutely about screwing the country on his way out.

Never underestimate the depravity of the repigs, but given how clearly self serving this move is (and that cutting of DoD at the knees hurts *them*), I wonder if the repigs might actually call his bluff on this one & tell him they will override his veto.

by Anonymousreply 48December 2, 2020 9:59 AM

They should override his veto, R48. If the Pukes don't put the fat, orange toddler into time-out soon, they will regret it far more than anyone else. And that's saying quite a bit.

by Anonymousreply 49December 2, 2020 1:02 PM

R40 that’s why Daddy made me start taking birth control at 12.

by Anonymousreply 50December 2, 2020 1:09 PM

If you are interested in getting a glimpse into the the more extreme Trumpist opinions about these things, go read the comment sections at OANN or Newsmax. Pretty creepy.

by Anonymousreply 51December 2, 2020 1:20 PM

On a side note, this is what I really miss at the "mainstream" news websites, they never have comment sections. The Daily mail and similar websites always have seemingly unmoderated (often unhinged, but thereby interesting) comment sections, which I love to read every now and then.

by Anonymousreply 52December 2, 2020 1:22 PM

[quote] a bad precodent

Is this a new breath mint?

by Anonymousreply 53December 2, 2020 1:30 PM

What I’m hating is I’m not hearing publicly (or maybe no one is covering it) any outrage or pushback from any prominent Dems about any of this: the pardons, his attempt at a coup and undermining our entire electoral process.

There should be outraged screaming in the halls of congress, yet I’m not hearing anything. Nancy? Chuck? Kirsten? Amy? Anyone?

by Anonymousreply 54December 2, 2020 1:33 PM

Jesus, r54, they’re fucking tired and they’re actually trying to WORK and get a stimulus passed. The only people you should be bitching about are the GOP.

by Anonymousreply 55December 2, 2020 1:35 PM

Speaking of pardons, newly pardoned Mike Flynn is openly urging Trump to go full dictator.

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by Anonymousreply 56December 2, 2020 1:37 PM

While this might not have anything to do with it, but I've always thought that the assassination Jamal Khashoggi seems to be one of the darkest and dirtiest episode of this dark and dirty administration. Jared's alleged complicity has always been vaguely implied, but has rarely been expressed as an outright accusation.

But to be pardoned of something is to admit to guilt. And I find it absurd that they would entertain a pardon for something as heinous as Khashoggi's assassination. Charged with a crime or not, you don't come out of being involved in an episode like that unblemished. Nobody's going to invite you nor your spouse to a NY social soirée knowing that you, at best, allowed a civilian to get fucking dismembered in a foreign consulate.

by Anonymousreply 57December 2, 2020 1:38 PM

Aww the pore pore kids. It ain't half begun yet. Block their pardons. Make sure they do time and their toys taken away.

by Anonymousreply 58December 2, 2020 1:41 PM

If you are interested in getting a glimpse into the the more extreme Trumpist opinions about these things, go read the comment sections at OANN or Newsmax. Pretty creepy.

Lord no; I have enough trouble sleeping as it is.

Prediction: Flynn ends up in prison at some point, pardon or not. He's clearly around the bend

by Anonymousreply 59December 2, 2020 1:52 PM

[quote] Jesus, R54, they’re fucking tired and they’re actually trying to WORK and get a stimulus passed.

They’re “tired”? Are you fucking kidding me? What the fuck kind of excuse is that?! If they’re tired, how about the American fucking people who are going through this pandemic while at the same time listening to the supposed leader try to overturn an election and instigate a civil fucking war?! FOH with your tired bullshit.

The dickheads in the senate have made it quite clear there will be no stimulus passed, period. So what are they supposed to be working on to get one passed?

When someone is calling for anarchy, civil war and re-instituting fucking firing squads, you stop the shit you’re doing, take the scumbag to task and you stand up for America, FFS!

Other than Twitter flagging his stupid ass tweets, there’s been no blowback from his rantings. Now THAT is making me ‘tired.’

by Anonymousreply 60December 2, 2020 2:21 PM

No amount of outrage will stop him from doing it.

by Anonymousreply 61December 2, 2020 2:35 PM

Kids?

by Anonymousreply 62December 2, 2020 2:36 PM

^^^^ I don't know what's wrong with these kids today?

by Anonymousreply 63December 2, 2020 2:39 PM

[quote] No amount of outrage will stop him from doing it.

So your solution is to just ignore it? Not try to shame him, but more importantly other Republicans who are not only backing him but encouraging him? The Dems need to be on every news channel blaming each and every one of the republicans who are not actively and loudly disassociating themselves from him and his ramblings. And especially those in his cabinet.

Do you think all the protests this summer will put a complete end to violence and racism from cops? No, it won’t? But did it make a dent and make people think a little more about the topic, yes, it did. We could’ve ignored the deaths and violence because “it’s not going to change anything.”

I don’t buy into that shit. When there’s damage being done you try to stop it regardless of how Herculean the task may seem at first.

by Anonymousreply 64December 2, 2020 2:45 PM

[quote] A CIA induced heart attack is imminent for that orange porker if he goes much farther off the rails.

Honey, the CIA ain’t doing shit. You said they would take him out 4 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 65December 2, 2020 2:52 PM

[quote] Prediction: Flynn ends up in prison at some point, pardon or not. He's clearly around the bend

Huh?

by Anonymousreply 66December 2, 2020 2:52 PM

[quote]If you are interested in getting a glimpse into the the more extreme Trumpist opinions about these things, go read the comment sections at OANN or Newsmax. Pretty creepy.

Since we have functioning brains, I'm pretty sure we could write out their insanity. There is no bottom to their idiocy and psychotic conspiracies. I mean when his own lawyer is telling everyone a guy who's been dead for years since before Trump became president, is behind this rigged election, is there anything left could really surprise us?

You do recall that OAN tried to push the conspiracy that Dr. Fauci was behind COVID specifically to hurt Trump, ignoring the fact it's a global pandemic. So I guess the entire world was in on that conspiracy.

They're cockroaches. Calling them "deplorables" was being too nice. Parasites is what they are.

by Anonymousreply 67December 2, 2020 2:54 PM

that* could

by Anonymousreply 68December 2, 2020 2:54 PM

Prediction: Flynn ends up in prison at some point, pardon or not. He's clearly around the bend Huh?

He's nuts, cray cray - he's got a new lease on life because he's a free man, but he's also a guy with a lot of debt & no (credible) job. How long before he gets caught up in some scam, trying to sell info to a foreign government, or even threatening/harassing someone who doesn't worship at the alter of Dear Leader.

by Anonymousreply 69December 2, 2020 3:02 PM

Agree R69. Flynn’s already on the road to sedition, and his pardon for lying about Russia doesn’t cover that.

by Anonymousreply 70December 2, 2020 3:10 PM

[quote] There should be outraged screaming in the halls of congress, yet I’m not hearing anything. Nancy? Chuck? Kirsten? Amy? Anyone?

Our Democratic leadership has never had the balls to stand up to Republican dirty tricks.

What makes you think that they'll do it now.

They'll just let it happen (as usual) and express their "concern" about it, much like Susan Collins.

As much as we like to joke about her, pretty much everyone in Congress acts the same way.

And thank you for writing what you wrote, R60!!

I agree with you, 100%!

by Anonymousreply 71December 2, 2020 3:10 PM

[quote] doesn't worship at the alter of Dear Leader.

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 72December 2, 2020 3:46 PM

I really do hate the Dem leadership. Let's be honest, if Trump or any Republican could actually win the pop. vote, the electoral college would already be gone.

Pelosi and Schumer need to go. I cannot stand the sight of either one of them. And WTF is with CA allowing Feinstein another term? Newsome should give the other one to Porter - She's awesome and we need her to counter that old fool who hugs scum.

by Anonymousreply 73December 2, 2020 3:56 PM

Is he going to give his bottle of spray tan a pardon for that crime as well?

by Anonymousreply 74December 2, 2020 3:57 PM

Let's frame Tiffany, Daddy!

by Anonymousreply 75December 2, 2020 4:00 PM

God conservatives always do this. They use 'kids' to emotionally blackmail people. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!! BABY JESUS! HILLARY IS ABUSING CHILDREN! KEEP THE GAYS AWAY FROM THE CHILDREN! and now they are trying to use language 'children' to pardon grown adults. Adults who have had every advantage and head start in life and knew exactly what they were doing.

And the next time some UMC Trump supporter sneers at a young middle class adult still living at home as he tries to save money, they deserve a kick that will send their balls cannonballing up their asshole. Poor people's 20 year olds are always lazy wastes of space but rich brats nearing 40 are children. Get the fuck out.

by Anonymousreply 76December 2, 2020 4:04 PM

To be fair, the dems are focusing on trying to get a stimulus package through; also - if you've ever dealt with a mentally ill/hysteric/drama queen relative, friend, colleague, etc, you'd know this - if they chased down every crazy thing that bubbled to the top of Dump World, you'd never get anything done. And by paying attention to it, it's like oxygen to burning coals - it just builds the fire.

This pardon thing merits a shrug "well, if you didn't commit a crime & you aren't charged with a crime, why do you need a pardon?" And as far as Flynn & those asshat tea baggers from Ohio, you can spitball ideas all you want on your parler chat, but since none of you are in any position of authority to do *anything*, why waste time on what a loser like you thinks should happen?

by Anonymousreply 77December 2, 2020 4:04 PM

Oh, the poor dears!

by Anonymousreply 78December 2, 2020 4:10 PM

Oh, the poor dears!

by Anonymousreply 79December 2, 2020 4:10 PM

r77, will you be similarly cavalier about the "martial law" thing once King Donald retweets it? Which is probably imminent.

by Anonymousreply 80December 2, 2020 4:12 PM

Oh, the poor dears!

by Anonymousreply 81December 2, 2020 4:13 PM

Oh, the poor dears!

by Anonymousreply 82December 2, 2020 4:14 PM

Oh, the poor dears!

by Anonymousreply 83December 2, 2020 4:49 PM

[R77], will you be similarly cavalier about the "martial law" thing once King Donald retweets it? Which is probably imminent.

I'm not being cavalier at all - it's some scary shit and it gets worse by the day. I was just making the point in response to what the dems should do is to focus on getting a relief package approved & not give the schemes of Dump & his cronies more airtime

by Anonymousreply 84December 2, 2020 4:54 PM

The senate has made it abundantly clear that no stimulus package is going to be passed, so what exactly are they doing?

by Anonymousreply 85December 2, 2020 4:57 PM

Making statements about martial law and throwing out the Constitution, I guess, R85.

Face it, they’re not going to pass anything constructive no matter what. Let them go home before they break something.

by Anonymousreply 86December 2, 2020 5:03 PM

Way to highlight their criminality, dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 87December 2, 2020 5:53 PM

[quote] Poor people's 20 year olds are always lazy wastes of space but rich brats nearing 40 are children. Get the fuck out.

Fucking Millennials.

They're a scourge on our society.

I can't stand them. They really are MONSTERS.

by Anonymousreply 88December 2, 2020 5:58 PM

Yet... poor traumatized Ivanka is said to harbor political ambitions.

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by Anonymousreply 89December 2, 2020 6:02 PM

[quote]Didnt I hear on the news they are investigating a pardon for cash scheme ?

No -- it was pardon for GASH.

by Anonymousreply 90December 2, 2020 6:18 PM
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by Anonymousreply 91December 2, 2020 6:19 PM

The ‘kids’ have been through enough? I didn’t notice this attitude with the relentless republican persecution of Hunter Biden, a private citizen who unlike these twats actually has gone through a lot. Vile grifters.

by Anonymousreply 92December 2, 2020 6:40 PM

^ Yeah, you have to feel a little for Hunter, who may not be a saint but never asked to be in spotlight and became a target solely because freepers couldn't find enough dirt on Joe, so they had to go after his son instead

by Anonymousreply 93December 2, 2020 6:45 PM

The kids are alright.

by Anonymousreply 94December 2, 2020 7:03 PM

[quote] R10: "The kids have been through enough!"

Oh, the poor dears!

Yankee Doodle, and an army of suckers, and their costly sacrifice, laid upon the altar of freedom

by Anonymousreply 95December 2, 2020 10:10 PM

There's no legal avenue to block Donnie from issuing pardons, but there is the possibility of challenging them in court once they're issued if there are grounds to do so, for instance, if there's evidence somebody FUCKING PAID HIM TO DO IT.

by Anonymousreply 96December 2, 2020 10:18 PM

There's no legal avenue to block Donnie from issuing pardons, but there is the possibility of challenging them in court once they're issued if there are grounds to do so, for instance, if there's evidence somebody FUCKING PAID HIM TO DO IT.

Well, there's that - and don't underestimate the incompetence of the Dump Administration to draft some blanket pardon for some "general" crime that doesn't hold up in court

by Anonymousreply 97December 2, 2020 10:36 PM

[quote] Trump allies urge pardons for the entire family.

I urge a military firing squad for the entire family.

But we can't always get what we want.

by Anonymousreply 98December 3, 2020 6:38 AM

[quote] "The kids have been through enough!"

Oh, they haven't seen anything yet.

These assholes are going to be social pariahs, in their beloved New York.

People will turn their backs on ALL of the Trumps. Just watch.

by Anonymousreply 99December 3, 2020 3:40 PM

Not sure about that, R99. Even Claus Von Bülow had an active social life.

by Anonymousreply 100December 6, 2020 3:03 AM

R100, they are done in NY, unless they go to Staten Island.

by Anonymousreply 101December 6, 2020 4:44 AM

If Ivanka and Jr. are pardoned, what do you think will be the first debate question they will have to answer when they decide to run for office from some red state?

by Anonymousreply 102December 6, 2020 5:08 AM
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