Shameless (US) marathon for Thanksgiving weekend

Never heard of it.

I suppose I consider this my guilty pleasure show. I never miss an episode but I don’t think it’s particularly well done.

wish gay Officer Tony had come back and gotten together w/ Ian

Pro-pedo pro-tranny propaganda. Pass.

You've really never heard of Shameless, R1?

Not the UK version or the US version?

Wow.

The UK version is much better, IMHO.

[quote] wish gay Officer Tony had come back and gotten together w/ Ian

I always wondered about the actor, Tyler Jacob Moore.

He was a "musical theater major" in college, but he was "dating" Emmy Rossum at one point.

It might not mean anything, but he's almost 40 and still no wife or girlfriend.

Any rumors about him?

Tyler is pretty cute.

Will Ethan have nude scenes this season?

Cameron Monaghan is even cuter.

Justin Chatwin is cute too.

not into gingers unlike Dr Lishman

Ian and Mickey 10 years of enemies, to fuck buddies, to friends, to boyfriends and now married.

Jeremy Allen White and Steve Howey...

[quote] Ian and Mickey 10 years of enemies, to fuck buddies, to friends, to boyfriends and now married.

What??!!

When did they get married?

^ Last season

Steve Howey was cuter when he was on Reba

I always watch Shameless season two, just for Marco.

His name is Thierre Di Castro Garrito, and he's from Brazil. The guy is SMOKING hot!

He's only a minor player in the season, but he steals the show.

Thierre's ass is AMAZING!

finale season trailer.

I didn't even realize that Harry Hamlin played gay in Shameless.

Seeing him together with Cameron Monaghan is super hot!

Cameron is so damned hot.

Is he gay or isn't he?

R21, all young men can be rented.

R21, in the new trailer he is much thicker now and didnt shave his chest.

The show jumped the shark when Fiona became a rich bitch business woman.

If the show wanted to be true to life, she would have remained poor, miserable, and become an alcoholic.

There was no saving Shameless after that.

I watched season three on Sunday, and I'm ashamed to admit that I cried many times.

That season was really, really good and also very emotional.

The early seasons of Shameless were amazing, and then everything turned to shit when they turned the focus on Fiona and Frank.

The Executive Producer of Shameless also produce Animal Kingdom. The show also has a gay character who is repressed and deeply in the closet, here he is beating the shit of his lover who he gave a-blow job to. It reminds me of soo much of s1 Mickey and Ian then i found out the reason why.

Very interesting, R26. What the hell is with that???

I remember that scene in season one of Animal Kingdom where Jay walked in on Deran getting a blowjob from Adrian in the beach restroom, and then Deran beating the crap out of him.

And then Mickey beating the crap out of Ian in the empty lot.

It makes you wonder what's behind that.

episode on now where the muscle hottie does gogo dancin and gets blown for $....love him

New season premieres tonight!

The show took a nosedive after season 4. Really only those first 4 seasons were worth watching.

Agreed, R30.

Based on the commercials, it seems like the Gallaghers are going to take on Gentrification and COVID in this final season.

I'll watch the first couple of episodes, and if it doesn't get better, then I'm done with the show.

i turn my face when the drunk nasty dad is on...icky..(he married to da frau dat went to prison)..but the young cuties are mmmmm. cept for the one with bug eyes that chain smokes.

In the new season Steve Howey appears to have lost half of his hunky self! To the point of looking almost sickly. Wonder what's up with that??

I've loved this series from the very beginning and while it's not perfectly done, it's great entertainment from the South Side.

luv steve, and the young uns is so cute....not bill macey tho. fug!

[quote] the young cuties are mmmmm. cept for the one with bug eyes that chain smokes.

Who, Lip? He's Jeremy Allen White, and I think he's hot.

But you're right, he is a bit bug eyed, and he's also very short.

I also agree about William H. Macy's character, Frank. HATE him. Not only does he look like he smells horrible, but we have to watch Deplorables like him on the news every day. We don't need a character like that on television, too.

Show so better since that bitter grouchy lead bitch in the house is gone...she alwys drunk n fugly. bye bye

[quote]New season premieres tonight!

Is it Sunday at your house?

Stopped watching after Season 7 when Mickey went to Mexico.

Frank should have died when he was thrown into the river after Fiona's wedding. Grew to hate any scene he was in. Did they make him into a MAGAt? Wouldn't be much of a stretch, if so.

Shameless the way they all smoke like mad, specially that baldy muscle boy......betcha cig companys throw em a big bone to do that.....it makes kids wanna smok...so fukd.

They should go real for the last show and kill the family off with COVID.

Really, theyr all a bunch of creepy bums, they years have not been kind to their constant bum like partying....

As other people have noted here, Mickey & Ian's arc across the first 4 seasons was amazing -- had never seen its like on TV and it remains one of my favourites. After the brilliant Noel Fisher (Mickey) left the show, the idiotic storylines given to Ian (Monaghan) in following seasons completely put me off the show. Now Fisher has returned and I guess I will have to tune in for the final series #11.

Ten seasons of drunk fuggity behaviour. ENUF !

OMG yes mickey steals the show, what a fun studlet...

Ever since the show turned into this earnest white trash soap opera instead of the no-holds-barred, "did they just go there?" dark comedic social commentary of its early years, the quality went down the shitter. I even forgot it's still on but will probably watch the final season out of sense of continuity and closure.

This show premieres on Sunday, December 7.

"Your Honor" premieres 12/6 on Showtime.

Christ, emmy rossum is hard to take in season 9, all she does is drink and smoke and cuss ev body out....not fun....hope final season is funner and w/o her.

Ian became a bottom when he got in a relationship with FTM Trevor.

FTM Trevor was when I stopped watching.

As usual, trans people took over the gay story.

Cameron left the show in s9 and only return in s10 if Noel(Mickey) came back. I guessed he was tired of his scenes with Trevor and gay jesus thing.

the trans thing left me cold also....luv that red headed boy tho! glad he came bak.

R50 The Gay Jesus and inexplicable trans storyline were very frustrating, such a fuck you to the Ian character. Even with Ian & Mickey back together and now married, they get very little screen time compared to other idiotic plot digressions -- really hope they rectify this is the 11th and final series.

[quote]Ian became a bottom when he got in a relationship with FTM Trevor.

That was such shameless (!) bullshit propaganda. They not only introduced a FTM gay character, but they just *had* to make the character a "top", and Ian, who had never bottomed, suddenly was open to doing so for Trevor. And Ian got into the relationship just a couple episodes after Ian tried to sleep with a woman and was so repulsed by it that he was literally vomiting.

The "pronoun brunch" scene was something else.

Just finished watching the season where Emmy Rossum leaves. Forgot how good it was.

So some on twitter already watched the season 11 premiere and the gay couple are already fighting and both want to fucked other people. The straight teen fangirls are crying about it but I think it is realistic and not uncommon.

is tht bitch Rossum back in S 11 ?

I really wish they would’ve killed off Tami last season when she was in the hospital. Such an unlikable character.

is she the odious redhead alwys on da rag bout sumthin? yes kill her off!

R58, I think you're thinking of Debbie, who is the youngest Gallager. Tami, is Lip's girlfriend who had the baby. I agree R57, I don't really like her character, especially with Lip. He had such a great storyline when he went off to college. Don't like seeing him back and slumming it. Hope one of them makes it out of the slum and betters their life in the end. Supposedly, they're still filming and trying to get Rossum to make a small return.

[quote] the gay couple are already fighting and both want to fucked other people.

How did Mickey ever settle down and get married, any way.

In the beginning of the series, he was a total slut. He would fuck anyone and anything. Men or women.

So to make him domesticated married, seems out of character for him.

[quote] The straight teen fangirls are crying about it but I think it is realistic and not uncommon.

I totally agree.

In fact, most "married" gay couples I know, are not monogamous.

They claim to have "open" relationships.

[quote] is tht bitch Rossum back in S 11 ?

Highly unlikely.

I was reading that she left because she wasn't getting paid as much as William H. Macy. It was about gender pay equity, because she felt that her character was as important to the show as his was.

So unless they agree to her demands, which I'm sure are even more now, then she won't be back.

So these two guys did it.. the fans are calling them Kermy.

I loved the first few seasons. Ian and Mickey were such a fresh couple that were different than anything I had ever seen. I think the show started going downhill after Ian’s bipolar diagnosis

Ian broke up with that hot fireman because the fireman was bisexual but was in a sexual relationship with the trans woman who had a vagina with no intentions of having surgery? Huh?

And don’t get me started on the lesbian Debbie storyline. Seriously? For the past few seasons the girl has been boy crazy to the extreme, even purposely trying to get pregnant to trap a guy she was in love with. How many lesbians do you know who do that?

R62 *sorry, transman

I had a chance to watch the Season 10 marathon on Sunday, and I was so surprised that the show was really good.

It was actually back to the level of the early seasons. It was a very pleasant surprise.

My absolute favorite part of the season was Mickey acting like a Bridezilla. That was fucking hilarious!!!

And damn, Jeremy Allen White is still looking fine as hell. The guy hasn't aged a bit, and his body is still fit as fuck!

I'm surprised that the show did the whole first episode with masks on. It's a bit awkward to watch, but it's pretty true to life. The only thing is that Kev and V should have been wearing masks, as bar servers.

Whoever said that Steve Howey has lost weight, is correct. I guess he's been on a major diet. He used to be chubby when the show first started. I think he looks worse now. Too skinny.

Shanola Hampton, however, still looks fabulous.

R62, in the Uk version Ian went on to have a serious relationship with a woman while in the US it is with a FTM with a vagina.

That bathroom scene with the two gross barflies (linked at R61) at the Alibi was so disgusting!!

Ew ew ew ew ew!!!!

UK version Ian ended up marrying a transexual in the series finale.

I loved the ending with Frank sitting on the bench.

"FUCK 2020!!" with a pitchfork. Rofl.

Hell yes!

Will Joan Cusack be back for this final season? I'm assuming Justin Chatwin will be back; gotta give Fiona her happily ever after with Steve/Jimmy after all...

Did they ever mention why Fiona didn't attend Ian's wedding?

R70, I really hope the two of them are back. Maybe Karen too while we’re at it.

I thought Karen was dead, R72?

And what happened to the Joan Cusack character?

I stopped watching when Fiona became a real estate mogul. It was too fucking annoying.

So I lost track of Joan's character.

R73 Joan Cusack left at the start of season 5 (about three seasons before Fiona started dabbling in real estate). She realized she didn’t need Frank and drove off in an RV to travel on her way to see Karen and Jody. It was very ‘full circle.’

The show went about 5 seasons too long.

omg that debbie is horrid, screechy loud bore.

Mickey / Ian best part yessss. specially mickey.....sigh...

[quote] Mickey / Ian best part yessss. specially mickey.....sigh...

Mickey's character fascinates me.

Sometimes he totally queens out, and then at other times he turns back into a Malkevich.

It's hilarious. And confusing.

I think this is one of my favorite Ian and Mickey scenes. And then after they drunkenly sing “Love is a Battlefield” on their way home

Season 11 premiere is re-showing tonight!

Gallavich fans are having a complete breakdown on over the monogamy discussion.

I'm sure the cast appreciates the paychecks but the scripts have rotted worse than Frank's organs.

I'm watching it NOW!!!!

The writing is dreadful these days. The show sacrificed the family drama injected with comedic bits to a white trash political satire with a few serious moments here or there. And the comedy isn’t even good. WHM, Jeremy Allen White and Noel Fisher’s dramatic talent is wasted in these last seasons. Emmy Rossum knew to cut and run, but now we’re forced to endure Debbie taking center stage, who is much uglier and not nearly as good an actress.

just finished season one, and love it, should I continue?

R85, as most people noted here, the first three or four seasons were really good.

Something changed after that. I'm not exactly sure what, but that's when the show took a nosedive.

I had not watched since about season four or five, but I happened to catch a season 10 marathon over the weekend, and I really enjoyed it.

R79 THAT'S one of your favorite scenes?

I can see the director now. "Okay, so to show how NOT stereotypical your characters are...we're going to have you beat the shit out of each other BUT then have you kiss at the end because you're "STRAIGHT ACTING ." Okay? Because we ALL know that in real life, gay men can't be masculine and sensitive without beating the shit out of each other."

Seems very poor working class

Think of it as a live-action cartoon and stop fretting over the implausibility, inconsistent characterizations and lack of consequences.

It's really only to be enjoyed on that level.

it reminds me of Good times" but with poor south side chicago whites

Will there be explicit anal between them this season? If they need to beat the crap out of each other beforehand I’m OK with that.

they probably won’t do much beyond peck each other on the lips because of covid. the past couple of seasons have been rather sexless in general (compared to earlier seasons that tits, ass, and dick out in abundance), although there was that scene last season when they were about to fuck in prison. there was a brief ass shot, if I remember correctly. doubt there will be anything like that this season.

i thought rossum was fugly boring,, but debbie puts the ug in ugly fer shure !!!

mickey/ian need an OF,,,,would make tons.

[quote] they probably won’t do much beyond peck each other on the lips because of covid

They actually kissed on the first episode, so I don't think that's going to hold.

Maybe the cast quarantined for 14 days, before filming.

I am actually going to miss the show at the end of the season.

I’m 100% behind the storyline of Ian and Mickey launching an OF to make money while quarantining at home!

This scene was from the first episode of the new season R92.

Ian and Mickey definitely kissed.

See, R97, that is the perfect setup for my storyline idea R96!

Yes, I said they’d kiss in my post but doubt they’ll do more than that (and it was pretty tame). Who knows though, I wouldn’t mind finally seeing a proper sex scene between them. They’re both looking especially hot too.

In the real world they would definitely launch an onlyfans page and make money on it. It would be an easy fix to their money troubles. But in the show I doubt they’d make Ian a sex worker again,

[quote] But in the show I doubt they’d make Ian a sex worker again

From episode one, it looks like Ian works at Costco or some "box store" like that.

Yes, obviously, I watched the episode. I meant they wouldn’t have Ian do sex work again and thus an OF page is off the table. Jesus Christ, get some reading comprehension.

is their hotness fading??

lots of eye candy so far

R1 how have you never heard of Shameless?

It's a HUGE gay-oriented series that had large followings in both the UK and the US versions of the show.

I do not recognise Mickey so far this season, he’s been written as a petulant and dismissive little asshole to the man he just married? Two adult men, a married couple who have done time together, are going to resolve major relationship issues by playing a schoolyard guessing game...?! Insulting to the characters, even by Shameless standards.

Alright, I will make a few predictions:

- Ian will find Mickey’s scrap of paper in his pockets, or in the bin, and it will read MONOGAMY — though of course zanily misspelt. - Ian & Mickey will end the series as was foreshadowed on their drive to Mexico: ‘You. Me. The beach’.

He will get a few slugs in too

mickey is pregnant, dont abort !

I like how Mickey is looking like a little Russian bodybuilder this season. Woof!

he's another ginger Cannuck

Finishing season two only, but this is important:

Lip, a total snack

Mick, definitely a rough trade snack.

Oddly frank at times is pretty sexy, though a disgusting asshole too

Jody is hilarious, but who can turn down a hot guy who insists on being naked ?

I don’t think was mentioned yet, but the season kickoff episode is currently available free on YouTube, but I’m sure it’s not for long.

good to know

Jeremy Allen White didn't become hot to me until he cut his hair short.

really? can't wait

R113 So, if he shaves his head you’ll lose your shit over him?

I stopped watching after they made Ian fuck that annoying butch girl. Gay men dont like pussy, stop gaslighting us. I was kind of over it by then (had enjoyed it up till the season before and loved the British original) anyway.

The FTM fucked him and it was the first time Ian bottomed but idk if it counts because it was to a strap on, Trevor still had a vagina.

Macy is gross, alwys is. plumb nasty..

that's the point I believe

The second episode wasn't great.

Lots of SJW slogans tossed around stealthily.

Characters were back to their annoying, predictable selves.

For a show that has been running for 10 seasons, I'm surprised that the writing sucks so bad.

Is Carl's cop partner on the show, gay in real life? I couldn't place him, but he played the gay flight attendant in "View From the Top" and he was VERY convincing. If he's not really gay, then he is very convincing.

Funny but I enjoyed this episode. I got a kick out of Debbie taking over her daughter's birthday party.

Rossum's season after season of drunken rants was zzzzzzzzz

Messy hag.

I hate Kevin's shaved head!!!

He looks terrible.

Emmy Rossum may be a handful in real life, but she has "It".

Emma Kenney does not. She can't anchor the show.

R120 he was Will on West Wing and David on Scandal. Pretty sure he’s straight in real life.

I seriously question anyone’s sanity, vision and taste level who find Mickey hot. He’s a disgusting pig you can smell through the tv. His clothes are always covered in food, liquid and god knows what else stains and he has zero redeeming qualities as a person.

yep emma worse than rossum for shure.

Mickey had a lot of character development all through 10 seasons but I think the regression is intended for them to get a divorce in the final ep.

shucks

I don’t think they’ll get divorced, though from the episode preview it looks like they get into a physical fight next episode and will probably then make up. In the season trailers it looks like they spend a lot of time together later on. Mickey has just been Flanderized (as have many characters, like Debbie and even Lip) in order to come off as funny because he show is under the impression that it’s a comedy now. But the writing is trying too hard, he was naturally funny in earlier seasons as a contrast to the drama and that was much more effective. It’s a shame that his development is being ignored for the sake of shitty jokes that were done better by the It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia crew about ten years ago.

Is this season ever going to be funny? Something seems off this year. Not sure what it is but it's disappointing.

Angelina is pretty smart because even though she losed the bid to removed the judge oversiding the divorce her plan to delay it before the hearing worked and once the decision was made the private judge contract was already up and Angelina refused to sign it so basically they have to start all over again.

Wrong post.

Who is Angelina playing this season, long lost aunt?

[quote] Mickey had a lot of character development all through 10 seasons but I think the regression is intended for them to get a divorce in the final ep.

Mickey has always been Mickey.

He's a pig. And he's violent. And he has no class. What's new about this??

The only difference is that after getting married (as is often the case with couples), the other partner tries to make him into something he's not. Ian wanted him to get a legit job, making crap money. He wants Mickey to be "respectable," now that they're married. WHAT???

I thought he married Mickey because he loves him for who he is and who he has always been? A lovable, sexy pig!

Mickey is a Milkovich, and he'll never change. And I don't know why Ian is on such a high horse, as if the Gallaghers are any better.

oh, micky you're so fine. . .

"Showtime Extends Final Season Of ‘Shameless’ With Recap/Original Series"

The 11th and final season of Showtime’s signature comedy Shameless is under way, and now it’s getting a hybrid recap/original extension series of sorts. The premium cabler has set Shameless Hall of Shame to premiere Sunday, December 27.

The six-episode Hall of Shame will feature new, original Shameless scenes juxtaposed with a retrospective look at each character’s journey during the prior 10 seasons. The first episode will feature Ian (Cameron Monaghan) and Mickey (Noel Fisher), showcasing their unique relationship and its evolution from a teen fling into a loving, complicated marriage. New episodes will be interspersed throughout the final season.

“This 11-year journey with the Gallagher family has been a total pleasure for us from the beginning,” executive producer John Wells said, “and we’re excited to share a look back at the many trials, tribulations and laughs of those 11 seasons with our fans.”

The final season of Shameless finds the Gallagher family and the South Side at a crossroads, with changes caused by the Covid pandemic, gentrification and aging to reconcile. As Frank (Macy) confronts his own mortality and family ties in his alcoholic and drug-induced twilight years, Lip (Jeremy Allen White) struggles with the prospect of becoming the family’s new patriarch. Newlyweds Ian (Monaghan) and Mickey (Fisher) are figuring out the rules and responsibilities of being in a committed relationship, while Deb (Emma Kenney) embraces her individuality and single motherhood. Carl (Ethan Cutkosky) finds an unlikely new career in law enforcement, and Kevin (Steve Howey) and V (Shanola Hampton) struggle to decide whether a hard life on the South Side is worth fighting for. Christian Isaiah and Kate Miner also star.

The whole cast is fug and the show hasn't been good in years. It's gotten far too political.

hope the actor playin mickey gets soome juicy tv n movie roles !!!!! and an onlyfans !!!

he's a snack

R89 A more serious Married...with Children

Who is that redhead in OP? I'm in love.

A gay man wrote the next ep here is the preview trailer.

r141, ian, the gaybee

So the new ep aired on apple tv and you can definitely tell it was writen by a gay man. Jonas brothers, top vs bottom, daddy and chocking that is all I’m going to say

debbie is grossssss !!!!

Mickey declaring himself a power bottom once and for all was hilarious! Finally they get a decent sex scene, even it was pretty goofy.

even if*. And yes, I know they do end up switching. The choking was pretty hot too.

Here it is first real sex scene of Mickey and Ian

Ian has a nice little bum.

I used to love this show but my partner and I both stopped watching it eventually. The writers suddenly decided one season that throwing the word "fuck" into every line of dialogue was "edgy" to the point that Fiona even said it at the altar while getting married. Yes, the characters are trash and I'm certainly no prude but the constant "fuck fuck fuck" in the dialogue was ridiculous. And I got sick of the fact that just when someone (usually Fiona) managed to drag herself out of the pit, she'd fuck up and fall back down again. It happened every season and thus got repetitive. There has never been any forward momentum on this show. By the way, not sure why the OP is surprised that Frank would be a Trump supporter. Do you not remember, back when Obama was president, Frank's epic rant in the bar about Obama?

I’m watching out of self-imposed obligation at this point. I hope it ends on some positive notes, like with Frank’s death.

I agree

[quote]There has never been any forward momentum on this show.

I think that's sort of the point.

New episode tonight!

Steve Howey is looking ripped af this season.

Love Carl's new partner.

Jeremy Allen White is smoking hot.

R153 I get it that they're showing the whole cycle of poverty thing but good drama requires forward momentum otherwise it becomes awfully repetitive. Especially on a show that's been around for a decade. Or at least don't have the same thing happening over and over again to the same character (Fiona).

Ian fucking the married convenient store owner was classic. Cameron Monaghan is beautiful, and reminds those of us with similar backgrounds of ripped white trash boys down the street trying to make a buck.

Why did Joan Cusack leave the show?

she was too good for it

The new ep is hinting that Frank is going to die soon..

didn't he die in the fourth season?

I hope they don't try to do a trans storyline for Franny after that line about her feeling more like a boy.

I do suspect they are setting Frank up to have something fatal. What was all the memory lossthing about in this last episode.

I wish they had killed off Frank after season four.

He sucks all the air out of the show.

One theory is Frank will make so much money with his weed scheme and give it to all to kids when he dies.

There will be three deaths by the finale. #getready

Covid, R167?

Please let it be Frank, Tami and Debbie R167

I have a feeling it's going to be Frank, Mickey, and Ian.

Frank and the gays.

R167 - is that confirmed?

confirmed by the coroner

Mickey’s homophobic rapist father hopefully

Ian and Mickey will run off to Mexico after the authorities discover their security business scam.

then they both will transition

Frank dies in the second last episode and the gays die in the last episode is some stupid BLM inspired plot that makes no fucking sense.

[quote] Frank dies in the second last episode and the gays die in the last episode is some stupid BLM inspired plot that makes no fucking sense.

Haha, I called it!

Do you work on the show, R177? How did you come across the spoiler?

He slept with willian s Macy

The gays always die it seems.

[quote] The gays always die it seems.

Only in TV Land, R180.

Fucking Hollywood cunts!

I don’t believe Ian and Mickey will die in the finale. The Gallavich fans will be so mad

[quote] I don’t believe Ian and Mickey will die in the finale. The Gallavich fans will be so mad

Not only that, but it cuts them out of any possible re-boot.

That would really suck.

I don't mind if Frank never returns.

After watching this shit show til the bitter end, I'd be seriously pissed if they killed off Ian and Mickey.

They're not going to kill off Ian and Mickey

my guess is Frank will get dementia (it was hinted at in the last episode) and if he doesn’t die, I hope it’s Mickey’s horrid cunt father. Next week’s episode will be a clip show recapping Ian and Mickey’s relationship and the description says there will be a new scene in which someone from Ian’s past dies that leads them both to reflect on their relationship and what they mean to each other. People are guessing it’s one of the old guys who hooked up with Ian as a teenager. The episode is called “Daddy Issues” so that would track.

R186 Probably Harry Hamlin's character

I remember I was offered to do featured background work in this show when the show was still new, but I turned it down. Now I wish I would have since it’s been on for so long. I have never watched it to this day though.

R36, Frank was a whole lot funnier until we discovered that nearly half the country thought just like him and what should have been an SNL parody became reality in 2016.

R110 must be have time traveled from the 80s and is smoking crack. Land.

Nope, here and now

[quote]I remember I was offered to do featured background work in this show when

can you explain what that is?

Why did rossum let them write her character getting so skanky/nasty???

she wanted to get real

Interesting episode focusing on Mickey and Ian.

I forgot how much I liked the Ian and Kash storyline. Kash's wife discovering him getting fucked by Ian was hilarious.

I swear I’ve seen every episode of the show but there was a fair amount I didn’t remember. I thought it was good, now I’m looking forward to the other Hall of Shame episodes.

Cameron Monaghan is one of the hottest redheads ever. He's so damned sexy.

And Mickey and Ian are the best gay couple ever.

The new Mickey and Ian ep without the flashbacks.

I gave up on those losers in season 3. They never learn and are serially stupid. They’re like a low brow version of the sleazy Trump family.

[quote]can you explain what that is?

Think: some hat check girl; some dress extra.

weird taht they always dyed micky's hair. two gingers would have been hotter

[quote]Probably Harry Hamlin's character Called it

[quote]weird taht they always dyed micky's hair. two gingers would have been hotter

Noel Fisher looks so much better with his natural hair color. I don't understand why they do such a bad dye job on him. I mean, where did they go, Rudy Giuliani's hair stylist or something.

The worse is that in some episodes, you can see that it's growing out so the sides look terrible.

You'd think they would do a more natural looking dye job, rather than slathering shoe polish on his head, and they'd also opt for a slightly longer style that would allow the color to be better controlled.

maybe the idea was to look trashy

his sister mandy had a crapy dye job too, maybe it was a family affair

Cameron Monahan looks a lot better now than when the show first started - he's really grown into his looks.

That said, in the show, both he and Mickey look like neither bathe with any frequency, let alone regularity.

Why is it that whenever they depict poor people, they always have terrible personal hygiene? I mean, as long as you have running water, how hard is it to bathe every day.

R206 - wtf? Can you smell them through your tv or something? What an absurd comment.

[quote]wtf? Can you smell them through your tv or something? What an absurd comment.

idiot.

I stand by my original statement: both he and Mickey LOOK like neither bathe with any frequency, let alone regularity.

Well you SEEM like an asshole, R208. A pretty fucking stupid one.

Mickey is disgusting and does look like he rarely bathes and smells. His clothes are almost always covered in some type of stain as if he just lets food and drink run out of his mouth without wiping it up.

Cameron... damn

“That has got to be the dirtiest white boy in America”

[quote]The show jumped the shark when Fiona became a rich bitch business woman.

That was the last season I watched and I actually liked that part of that season. It showed forward progression, something that that these characters never seemed to do. Every season was the same: they start out doing well and seeming like they're going to learn something, they screw up, they accept defeat. Lip starting to become successful, screwing it up and then losing everything. Ian gets a great job doing something he likes as a paramedic, screws it up, loses everything. Then, of course, there's Frank. It never mattered what he did or how horrible or screwed up it was they always let him back in. Maybe I could buy that for a few years but NOT after that many years.

Fiona figuring out she's good at flipping properties and becoming a landlord, realizing that she needed to move on from being mom to her family and then bolting to start her own life worked for me.

I was really only watching for Cameron Monaghan at that point but the trans story turned me off.

This thread also reminded me of the time he posted this to his insta then promptly deleted it.

R210, It is confirmed in their latest sex romp that Mickey being a dirty filthy convict turns him on.

r212, yeah, she called it

r213, ooh, he sounds like a total tool

I don't understand that Twitter post at R213. At all.

[quote] "I know it’s douchey to post this, but ya boy is back in fighting shape and feeling himself. In the sauna prepping for a big night, getting ready for war. Sometimes you gotta embrace your inner fuckboi. Let’s do this."

Can someone please explain?

R217, he just wanted to show himself off in the sauna after working out in the gym.

He posted it to Instagram and then deleted it because he realized it was in fact too douchey.

What IS with the bad dye jobs? I’m watching season five and lip is suddenly auburn clarol style? He was a dirty blond

the red head boy and his cute butch boy lover should have their own show....SMOKIN HOT

total snacks

When do the regular episodes return?

Sunday R222

Thanks, 223!

I actually enjoyed both clips shows.

I forgot how many fun moments V and Kev have brought to the show. Him having sex with her mom was something I had thankfully blocked out.

they are welcome.

I see reviews of this show parsing and seriously weighing the sociological consequences of all the characters' actions and I'm like, "it's a fucking comedy! get over yourselves"

cute scene of the red heads sexy chub body....tasty tits

Cameron's not a "chub," R228.

Don't be ridiculous.

Should have much more explicit gay sex, fucking, rimming, sucking. The only thing shameless about Shameless is that it is still on the air.

[quote] Should have much more explicit gay sex, fucking, rimming, sucking.

In last week's episode, there was a scene where Mickey's racist dad was fisting an old lady.

Does that count?

Thankfully, they didn't show it R231

Why did they have one new episode and then back to another hall of fame episode? Why not air the hall of fame episodes in sequence and then return to new episodes when they have more ready to air.

Good question R233. Especially when the new footage could've been set before or after last week's episode.

I gave up after season 5? It’s just too awful, they never change. The Trump family born with a tin spoon in their mouths.

season eight is the very worse, I doubt I'll get through it, might just skip to nine

or the very worst

Okay, this show is all about the sex. I'm gay so for me it is the fucakble guys, mainly fiona's exes, jimmy was super hot, the pratt guy even hotter, ford super sexy in an average joe way. why fiona didn't just fuck the pratt guy AND his hot brother at the same time was a lose for the show

oh, and Lip is super sexy too, loved seeing his hot ass in action

Sloppy stories in the final seasons

What’s with the broadcast schedule for the final season? Why so many breaks between episodes? Going out with a whimper.

R240 Do to the pandemic, it's taking longer to film and edit episodes. They also only have so many 'best of' episodes to air.

They should have waited until it was finished filming before airing it then. The choppiness of weeks between episodes makes for poor flow.

It wont matter because most people will just wait untill it is release on Netflix.

The guy who plays Mickey looks like he's in his 40's. How old are Ian and Mickey at this point?

R244 Ian should be 25 and Mickey 26

Noel(mickey) is 10 years older than Cameron but their characters Ian and Mickey have a 1-2 years age difference.

It’s the shitty dye job

noah fisher has a great body

Next new episode promo

I'm scared for Lip

Emma what ever is not a great actress and really can't carry the show as the lone female - it makes the final season suck

the black kid is cute, sorry that they cut his lines on account of covid

Spoiler: So Frank has dementia....

So it looks like they're doing a Fiona Hall of Shame episode, but it doesn't look like Fiona is actually going to be coming back for it

I think Fiona will make a surprised apperance in the finale.

she will come out as trans

I'm sorry, i really like the "hall of shame" series. it is fun to see the old clips, fascinating to see how the younger cast members have literally grown up on camera and the Fiona one was great, almost like having her back

SHAMEFUL

So ummm in the new ep Ian and Mickey had an orgy with their new friends...

Rain on me.

A scene was filmed with Fiona and Jimmy in NY. She refused to travel and film with the cast.

Let's see if it make it into the last episode.

WOW!

Here is the new ep with only Ian and Mickey...the writer for this ep is a gay man.

damn, still can't get over what a shitty dye job Noah has

Gay actor/director Satya Bhabha directed the episode from last night

Gays will be gays

Don't fuck with ex-nuns y'all

thank god terry is gone

Tired of lesbian Debbie, but at least this is the last season.

Four episodes left. I've watched since the beginning and have had countless laughs. It's been heavy from time to time but it's best when it's funny.

I agree, I liked the show when it was more serious, but have really enjoyed the groan worthy gaffs and foibles along the way

they wrapped up three big threads in this last show, ready for the final hoorah it seems. . ..

This season is better than at least three or four that preceded it. It's gone back to dark humor while at the same time satirizing current social and political issues and is no longer an earnest white trash soap of the previous several seasons.

R272 I agree. I've really enjoyed this season. I just miss the nudity

As much as everyone hates the character of Frank Gallagher (I do too), Bill Macy has always been really good in the role ... especially this season, as Frank slides into dementia.

I agree, the only reason to keep him, first rate acting, but fuck I wish he wasn't in the show at all.

[quote]This season is better than at least three or four that preceded it.

Yep, and after thinking it had overstayed its welcome the past couple of seasons, I'm now going to be sad to see it go.

Yeah, it’s been a good season, but admittedly I’ve enjoyed it a lot more without Fiona. I’ve also liked that there’s been more Mickey and Ian.

I liked fiona but her nose-dive was weird and sudden and odd. Liam is asking who his guardian is and the answer of course is, "FIONA" but the other kids don't even recall her name

R278, or maybe they feel she abandoned them (and Liam).

well, she did

Did Kev ever find his daughters after they ran off high?

apparently not, Kev and V are destined to never have a satisfying storyline

Just realized the killer home health aide who took Terry out is Susan Ruttan from [italic]L.A. Law.[/italic]

Kev didn't even acknowledge his son when we finally saw him again

Prediction in the finale?

yeah, the son thing is really weird. another lost plot thread

My prediction for the finale is a huge orgy

Does anybody else think Ian and Mickey have gotten gayer here toward the end? They wouldn't have been caught dead at a house party for basic, dance-music-listening A-gay wannabes in earlier seasons.

no, they definitely gayed them the fuck up

R287, it’s because the show recently hired a gay man as a writer.

then why has all the unity disappeared?

Kev and V off into the sunset. . . .

the young lads is hot but the bill macy character is huge drunk fugly turn off.

R285 'You. Me. The Beach'

Kev and V move away, many tears.

Lip and Cammie start their own hair salon-body shop called "heads and tails"

Carl quits the force and joins with Ian and Mickey in the drug security business.

Liam as we already know goes on to become a hedge fund manager

Debbie is a rancid bitch. She drowns little Frankie out of spite

and Fiona calls and tells them all to fuck right off

Frank slips into a coma dreaming of monica

This show died a long slow death

It did, I don’t know why

R296 most shows can't sustain solid writing that long. Very few shows should go more than seven seasons.

I agree, so curious that they decided to continue after monica's death

After 7 seasons it is just a payday.

can they delete all of drunk fugly old william macy from it????

R299 you mean the cast aren't sticking around because of the compelling scripts??

apparently not anymore

Is it really curtains for Frank.

Can't Wait

I loved Frank's departure song.

Pity we didn’t get that scene 4 or 5 seasons ago.

Here is Frank’s scene

Loved seeing shirtless Christian Gehring on the treadmill.

I have a feeling the last episode is going to be dead, disembodied Frank narrating how life goes on without him and what happens to all the Gallaghers. At least I think that would be a neat way to end it.

Here is a clip of the uk version of the finale.

Lip character just disappoints me - i suppose the idea was that everything was so easy for him when young on account of his brains, and now he struggles for everything

R311 - they’ve made him Fiona 2.0.

I miss Fiona and I'm sad that there's no real chance of her showing up for the last episode.

right - that is a pity

R308 Something's bound to develop between Ian and the hot "rip sweaty abs" treadmill guy.

in one more episode?

If there were more episodes I'd agree, but it won't. We won't see him again. R315

Its probably a hint from the show that Ian will eventually cheat on Mickey in the future.

You can't really blame him for staring, he's gorgeous.

Cameron is a cutie

Well, that is that. Loved how they ended with the same song they did it the first season's episode one. I will miss them.

Shucks, can't watch today, need to feel the feels. . .

Not much redemption for Frank. It was a so-so finale. I guess the message being the family goes on with or without him. I thought there’d maybe a bit more about Fiona than just a couple flashback memories, but I noticed Frank in his letter to his kids didn’t even mention Fiona.

Cameron is a real prick and the reason Emmy left and wouldn’t even come back for a single final scene.

I hope he gets what’s coming to him sooner than later.

Creator John Wells: "Emmy and I had a lot of conversations about it, trying to make it work. She's been in New York with [husband] Sam [Esmail], where they live, and right about the time where we were talking about putting it all together was when the additional lockdowns kind of hit again, and it just didn't feel safe or practical for her to come back. So I think it's with a great deal of regret that we couldn't do it but it's just more minor casualty of our year of COVID."

With the exceptions of not mentioning Fiona and his assholish final words for Debbie, Kev, and Vee, Frank's final monologue echoed the voice-over in the opening credits of the UK series.

[quote]Cameron is a real prick and the reason Emmy left and wouldn’t even come back for a single final scene.

Why is that? What did he do? Besides be a modestly talented actor?

I stopped watching when little Debbie went from adorable to slutty....

That was a decent way to end the series. Can't wait for the reboot/continuation in 10 years.

Also Debbie still is the worst and CPS needs to take Franny away from her.

Even still, R325, that's a bit weak. She could have literally phoned in an appearance, or they could have filmed her in New York at some innocuous location. It could have amounted to a phone call with Frank or Lip or someone else, such as with her supposed best friend Vee. To not even have Frank acknowledge her in the end seemed purposeful.

yeah, pretty fucking clear to me that she wanted NOTHING to do with the show again

R332 not sure if it was her or them, but there's definitely bad blood. The fact that the show has gone out of their way to not mention Fiona and pretend she doesn't exist...somebody's pissed. I stopped watching when she left but the AV Club reviews have been SHADY

Genuinely saddens me that I will never get to enjoy the Ian & Mickey storyline again, particularly as there were so many lost dramatic opportunities this season in favour of cheap and pointless plotlines.

The more I think about it, the more I wish the finale had been 2 hours to wrap more things up.

I wonder what the real story is with Emmy. Didn’t Macy fight for her to get paid as much as him a few seasons back?

Supposedly Emmy and Cameron didn't get along. Part of the reason he left the show and only came back after she left.

R337 possible but for the show to effectively erase Fiona (no mentions, nada) there has to be more than that. Not to mention with such a large cast, they could've had her back and never cross paths with Cameron

[quote]for the show to effectively erase Fiona (no mentions, nada)

Fiona was included in clips in this last show and she got a Shameless Hall of Shame episode dedicated to her this season, so it's not like they wiped her from the face of the earth.

r333, that sour cunt at Club needs to change her tampon, what a fucking bitch!

[quote]I wonder what the real story is with Emmy. Didn’t Macy fight for her to get paid as much as him a few seasons back?

he did, so the bad blood wasn't between them

Instead of Fiona we got Macy's actual daughter playing the nurse who was with him when he died in the hospital.

I loved Fiona. I have kept watching, but it's never been the same without her. Debbie sucks.

Debbie's new girlfriend will probably murder her in her sleep

And the daughter.

I saved some time and just watched the sex scenes... Feel like I got the gist!

Shame that the show got tame in the way of nudity and sex in later seasons

covid

I do agree with the AV Club about Lip. He deserved a better ending.

I didn't think Lip deserved anything. He had the world in his hands and he fucked it up at college.

By being an alky.

True, I guess. I just felt bad for him that he’s destined to be Frank 2.0.

I mean, Debbie's gonna be Monica 2.0 so it only makes sense R352

Fiona - bitch and flew the coop

Lip - flunky but at least trying

Ian - Successful if he can keep on keeping on and his husband doesn't piss off the other tenants

Debbie - criminal with a small kid and a wrench

Carl - washed-up cop at 22, could be worse

Liam - from flash-forwards destined for success.

The theme of the show: If you're born poor, it's impossible to improve your circumstances

Unless you’re ian

R356 if they got a season 12, he'd be fucked up again.

Thank god they don’t

Agree R350. The deal about Lip's intelligence was abandoned many seasons ago. In season 1 a professor told Lip that he'd get a girl pregnant and end up with a ton of regrets if he didn't get serious about school and go to college. Lip sarcastically blew him off. The professor was right. Lip is a loser. A slightly better version of Frank. Fiona should have been mentioned in the final episode. She carried the show for years. I was highly disappointed in the ending.

The show was so bad at abandoned plotlines, you'd think it was a Ryan Murphy production

[quote]Fiona should have been mentioned in the final episode

In the version I saw, she was. Sorry if you somehow got an abridged episode.

she's in flashbacks. and he calls her name while dying in the ICU

the end

Is Frank dead?