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Why did Queen Elizabeth & Prince Philip sleep in separate bedrooms?

Is this a royal family custom, or was it customary for the era in which they married?

I find it odd that two people who slept apart most of the time, at least as portrayed in THE CROWN, managed to have so many children.

I’m assuming that they factually did sleep separately for several reasons, such as it was probably morally appropriate for married couples to do so, and she probably figured out he was a huge cheat early on, and resented him for being disloyal to her, even though many women accepted the “boys will be boys” line of thinking. I’m guessing he probably brought something home to her, as well, such as a case of the crabs or an STI of some sort. It’s highly likely when one is married to a prolific cheat, so it’s not completely off the table as a consideration.

Still, they managed to procreate an heir and multiple spares, so they obviously had their “moments”.

I am not a royalist, nor do I follow them regularly. THE CROWN, plus a few documentaries, are the channels of which I’ve learned the most of the modern day royals, therefore, please forgive my ignorance.

I am curious about how royals handle “intimacy”, however.

Personally, I know I’d be repelled by a man who fucked everything that walked, while being my husband- ESPECIALLY if he were living off my royal purse. I’d be pissed off AF.

I wonder how she put up with that nonsense?

She is the Queen, however, I’ve ascertained that she really had very little power when it came to controlling her life and making decisions for the well-being of her family. It’s almost as though she’s just a figure head or a puppet.

Imagine how she would have gone down in history, had her legacy been one of a rebel, and a true feminist? What a shame that this will not be her legacy. Many of you will disagree, I’m sure, however, good girls are never remembered as remarkable women.

I would have said “Fuck you”, to most of them, and done it my way. I wonder if she ever regrets being so pro-establishment, and never causing any drama, or making some “waves” that had nothing to do with her waving at her subjects?

by Anonymousreply 28November 28, 2020 2:04 AM

It’s customary with many world leaders that husbands and wife’s have separate bedrooms. Some of it has to do with security reasons and others if the president or king or queen need to be briefed privately they can be securely.

by Anonymousreply 1November 27, 2020 7:43 PM

This is typical of the upper classes.

OP, you could benefit from an editor. Less is more. Try brevity.

by Anonymousreply 2November 27, 2020 7:57 PM

Prince Phillip strikes me as a horndog in his youth. He must have sojourning nightly to Elizabeth's bedchamber.

by Anonymousreply 3November 27, 2020 8:05 PM

R2, I’m just free flowing and free thinking.

While you’re correct in your assessment, you’re incorrectly applying it.

This is DataLounge. I’m just writing as of though I were speaking. I’m not trying to impress anyone, nor am I purposely attempting to waste your time.

Sorry if you don’t like my “style”, but I’m not writing to make you happy, in particular, so surely, you’ll forgive me.

Love u, R2. Friends for life. 😘

by Anonymousreply 4November 27, 2020 8:05 PM

I has bedroom on different floor from Orange Man

Far away because I think maybe he gets tired on Blowjob Tuesdays and turns back.

So far, not very lucky.

by Anonymousreply 5November 27, 2020 8:07 PM

R2, why was it typical of the upper classes?

Did it represent larger real estate holdings? Only the poor folks slept together?

What a shame. The only reason to marry is for love and lots of sex with the person you love.

Hmmm.

by Anonymousreply 6November 27, 2020 8:09 PM

One of them has "jimmy legs"

by Anonymousreply 7November 27, 2020 8:10 PM

She farts a lot so it's nice to have a second bedroom for some fresh air.

by Anonymousreply 8November 27, 2020 8:14 PM

I never thought of her as a someone who maybe could have rebelled, make waves. I guess that’s not the point of a monarch.

Doesn’t he have to walk two steps behind her ?

by Anonymousreply 9November 27, 2020 8:15 PM

OP, maybe next time, just put a quick question in your OP. You can be poster # 1 and add all that other stuff in post # 1.

That said, on an episode of Downton Abbey, one of the daughters admonished her parents for sleeping in the same bedroom; daughter (Mary) said it was more fashionable to sleep apart. Fashionable probably meant wealthy enough to do so. (House is large enough to have separate bedrooms.)

by Anonymousreply 10November 27, 2020 8:19 PM

It's what posh people do. I was just about to post the Downton Abbey reference, but R10 beat me to it.

by Anonymousreply 11November 27, 2020 8:21 PM

[quote]so many children

Yes, the Queen is known for her clown-car of a vaginia.

by Anonymousreply 12November 27, 2020 8:21 PM

I don't care about Philip, but it does surprise me that her bed isn't full of corgis.

by Anonymousreply 13November 27, 2020 8:24 PM

A monarch often has more than one wife. Each queen has her own chambers either in the palace or even a separate residence. The main queen might have her own colony of residences. There are also concubines.

Customs vary but the king would summon the consort he wished to favor to his bedroom. Less commonly, he would visit them but that's usually reserved only for the main queen in her chambers.

There are elaborate rules governing all this as one might imagine in a household of one man and multiple women. There are many signals and codes. There are countless courtesies, manners and etiquette to be observed in every aspect of the court, including conjugal relations.

For instance, the king might visit earlier and leave his pipe behind in the Queen's chamber indicating he would be coming back later that night. The situation is a little different when less commonly, the monarch is the queen, as in England.

In the Crown, there is a scene where Elizabeth leaves her door open a crack indicating she wished Philip to visit her. He remarks upon it discreetly and the Elizabeth says, No, not like that, I want to talk to you. I think it was in the Fagan episode, after the unnerving incident of the palace break in by the unemployed man.

by Anonymousreply 14November 27, 2020 8:39 PM

I’d like my own bedroom.

by Anonymousreply 15November 27, 2020 8:52 PM

Many people would have separate bedrooms if they could afford it. That doesn't mean they don't usually sleep together (or have sex less) it just gives you space when you want it and a room of your own.

Why do you think guys love their so-called man caves?.

by Anonymousreply 16November 27, 2020 8:54 PM

I think the Queen and Prince Philip's bedrooms in most of their palaces share(d) a common dressing room, so they could go into each other's beds to have sex without going into the hallway.

Every couple in my family (mother & stepfather, father & stepmother, brother & wife, sister & husband) moved to separate bedrooms as soon as they hit 50--they wanted more space in the bed and to get away from their partner's snoring (and, I presume, farting).

by Anonymousreply 17November 27, 2020 8:57 PM

In upper class societies, marital unions were frequently not about love, but about preserving or enhancing one's social standing, wealth, inheritance, and landholdings. As such, husbands and wives maintained their own separate quarters and separate itineraries, and only came together in the marriage bed to consummate and produce heirs.

The husband had his own personal manservant or valet who helped him dress and undress, while the wife had her lady's maid to assist her. It was inappropriate for a valet to be present while the wife undressed, or the lady's maid to be present while the husband undressed, so maintaining separate quarters was necessary.

Also, it was not uncommon among high society husbands and wives to have affairs, so having spouses in separate bedrooms was the ideal arrangement.

by Anonymousreply 18November 27, 2020 9:29 PM

Nunya.

by Anonymousreply 19November 27, 2020 9:42 PM

His dick was so long he needed a separate room otherwise he was coming in her throat.

by Anonymousreply 20November 27, 2020 10:01 PM

Sleeping in the same bedroom is tres bourgeois.

by Anonymousreply 21November 27, 2020 10:04 PM

R14, what century are you posting from?

Jeez.

by Anonymousreply 22November 27, 2020 10:41 PM

A better one than yours R22

by Anonymousreply 23November 27, 2020 11:10 PM

Touché, R23. ‘Xcept, nah.

You’re right here with me in this shitstorm called life.

Let’s get honest. The entire monarchy is a huge con job and not worth the upkeep.

England is one of the most historically rich places on earth, and there’s zero evidence to support that people flock across the pond, in order to set foot on a land that still has a Queen, or a future King, or any of it.

These people are all living in a total fantasy world that a vast majority of Brits support, for reasons that aren’t logical or even financially sound, to the rest of the world.

It is a disgrace that a total brat who is nothing but an insecure and antagonistic bully, is being heralded as someone who has anything interesting to discuss, or has any actual value an an employee under any enterprise, as a future King or as a person of noteworthiness.

LMAO! The man as a complete idiot. And the only one with a brain in that family was too submissive and ended up ruining the life of his teenage bride, however, should admire his equally intelligent, yet ballsy son, who GTFO there, in order to maintain his dignity, sanity and testes.

The monarchy is a travesty upon the Brits, and I hope that someone puts an end to the entire thing before William becomes King, along with his trashy and desperate cling-on of a wife, becoming Queen, who married a fucking bratty child, for a freakin’ title and proximity to money that no one in that family earned, yet her grifter mother felt was hers to claim.

Disgusting lot. And I believe Elizabeth was and remains too intellectually deficient to understand why her uncle abdicated, using “love” as an excuse, and hence, I don’t actually blame her for falling for all of the bullshit fairytales or magic rituals called coronations, and such.

It’s like religion. If you’re lucky enough to escape it, you cannot believe you got into it in the first place.

JFC. What a grift. And what a horrible mechanism that serves to destroy lives of those unfortunate enough to be born into it or fall in love with someone who was.

Ugh.

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by Anonymousreply 24November 28, 2020 12:16 AM

You asked OP. I was telling you about the origin of the custom. Royal families have very old customs and baffling practices they follow. You have to be from a country with a very long history to get that. Peter Morgan gets it right.

by Anonymousreply 25November 28, 2020 12:52 AM

I would guess no British monarch brought his or her concubines into a royal palace since Charles II, and in those days Buckingham Palace had not even been built yet.

by Anonymousreply 26November 28, 2020 1:33 AM

Phillip is tired of Lilibets musty Muffin .

by Anonymousreply 27November 28, 2020 1:47 AM

When you are rich, no one has to sleep in the wet spot.

by Anonymousreply 28November 28, 2020 2:04 AM
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