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Why is there no HIV vaccine

But we’re getting one for covid? Is an HIV vaccine harder to make?

by Anonymousreply 1802/22/2021

Because HIV initially just affected gays, Haitians/Africans and drug addicts. Covid kills breeders.

by Anonymousreply 111/26/2020

R1 is right. If Covid was only infecting gays, we’d be on our own.

by Anonymousreply 211/26/2020

The short answer for non-scientists:

[quote]HIV behaves unlike most other viruses in some important ways. Usually, when a person is infected with a virus, their immune system creates antibodies that target the bug. That’s usually the starting point for researchers, who work to develop drugs that can imitate that process (but without causing the recipient to develop a full blown reaction to the virus). What’s tricky about HIV, however, is that when a person is infected with the virus, that same process of developing antibodies isn’t triggered.

by Anonymousreply 311/26/2020

Lets see....the average cost of HIV drugs is 2000-3000 PER MONTH...or in excess of $30,000 ANNUALLY. What do you think the reason for no vaccine is ?

by Anonymousreply 411/26/2020

Isn't anyone else wondering about this? If the response at R3 is correct, that's one thing. But I can't get past the fact (pointed out by R4) that HIV is a HUGE money-maker for pharmaceutical companies. Isn't it just possible that all that money rolling in from minority patients is keeping researchers from actively looking for a possible HIV vaccine. You never hear about any vaccine research for HIV patients. It's pretty disgusting if that's the case.

by Anonymousreply 502/22/2021

[quote] Isn't it just possible that all that money rolling in from minority patients

R5, what?

by Anonymousreply 602/22/2021

My sister is suffering HIV. Have a great day!

by Anonymousreply 702/22/2021

The FDA have just approved a once-a-month treatment. That's quite stunning, IMO. Not a cure, but still a fantastic leap.

by Anonymousreply 802/22/2021

There are many reasons, one major one being that the virus mutates rapidly and has unique ways of evading the immune system. The fact that practically no one clears the virus is also a hindrance, because scientists don't have an example to work from. The reason is not financial. Gilead came up with a regimen that cures most of hepatitis C, charged a fortune, and made a fortune. There are plenty of researchers with no ties to business, anyway. Come up with an HIV vaccine, and you can book your ticket to accept your Nobel prize.

by Anonymousreply 902/22/2021

"Isn't it just possible that all that money rolling in from minority patients."

What I meant was that gay men are still a minority. Also, if you've seen any of the Prep ads, the ads are clearly targeting people of color (minorities).

by Anonymousreply 1002/22/2021

R4 They only cost $2-3000 a month in the US. In Western Europe it's around $600 and in India it's $7 a month first line, $80 2nd line (resistant).

They are generally distributed for 'free' outside of the US., as is PrEP., It's a Public Health issue.

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by Anonymousreply 1102/22/2021

Shut up, OP. Swallow your PrEP and ask for a hot beef injection.

Know-nothing anti-science squawking spreads lies, you Trumpians-at-heart. The search for a workable HIV vaccine has been underway for over 30 years, and the difficulty is shown in that long time period. Assuming that what was underway in the Reagan WH applied to everyone in the 1980s and that with later administrations stronger government support wasn't in place just shows historical ignorance. The same impulsive bullshit as the MAGA idiots.

And if everything were aimed at saving breeders don't you think there would be a vaccine for breast cancer and melanoma by now? Not to mention cancers of the lung, pancreas, colon, liver, brain, and on and on?

Idiots.

by Anonymousreply 1202/22/2021

I agreed with some posters here. It can only be cured if it was a straight disease

by Anonymousreply 1302/22/2021

Almost everything the they know about making a vaccine for Covid came for all the research into HIV. It was really the dark ages with HIV came about. Fucked up that it's not cured yet. And I do agree, if it was a straight population in the majority of HIV pos rate, you can bet there would be a cure by now.

by Anonymousreply 1402/22/2021

Ronald Reagan, that's why.

by Anonymousreply 1502/22/2021

r12 Just stop it. And this medication regimen; having none of that torture and big money drain would be similarly helpful. r10 Gays are close to dying out. No self tests allowed either and not really good and unharmful ones developed.

by Anonymousreply 1602/22/2021

R9, aren't there several viruses that a person never "clears"? Herpes and the varicella viruses come to mind.

by Anonymousreply 1702/22/2021

All you conspiracy theorists who believe there is no vaccine because of the income that flows in from treatments are just complete idiots. The reason there is still no vaccine is because HIV is an incredibly complex and vicious virus that constantly mutates. In the current state of medical science, a vaccine is highly improbable. Whoever comes up with one would be Nobelized straight away, and the company that manufactures it would make fortunes beyond belief.

On the other hand, treatments have progressed tremendously and can be obtained very cheaply in most parts of the world (except of course the US where human health if for profit). Also, Prep, which actually blocks the virus from entering the bloodstream, is quite cheap (distributed for free to populations at risk in many countries, including poor ones). And there are currently clinical trials for a once-a-month prep injection, which is an amazing advance, and frankly, is the closest to a vaccine we’ll ever have.

by Anonymousreply 1802/22/2021
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