I have a theory that Incels are deeply self-loathing gays

No, they can’t get a woman because they have no social skills and their entire understanding of women as partners springs from pornhub. They think women should spring across the room and start sucking your dick before a word is said.

Alas for them, this is not the case, and plan B is vehicular homicide.

What other theories do you have, OP?

Do you have a theory why suddenly so men want to pretend they're not men?

I have a theory OP is a homophobe.

Poo, perhaps?

Three things.

1. Can we please stop trying to include horrible people into our "club"? Not every hateful person is deeply closeted.

2. Some still like to think that there is no such thing as a gay incel.

3. KR still looks FTM to me. Sorry.

Yeah they sense little dicks that don’t know how to fuck...

I have a theory that OP is a deeply self-loathing gay.

IMHO only some of them are, but the bulk of them are dysfunctional straight men who are FURIOUS that neither real life or real women are anything like their fantasy lives.

But the ones that are obsessed with "real men" and the ones who are obsessivly homophobic and the ones who use the "men going their own way" slogan because they want to live their lives with male pals and no disgusting horrible women? Yeah.

Let’s leave us gays out of this thank you very much. R1 hit the nail right on the incel head

OF COURSE, you do. But only the "cute" white ones, right?

Yeah R1 is right.

Not everyone who is evil is gay, OP.

Most of them are in fact so straight, that they don’t even want to have male friends or acquaintances. They are both exclusively heterosexual and heterosocial.

I reject the idea that every fucking loser and waste of flesh and bone is a closeted homosexual.

Even if they give every indication imaginable of some stereotyped trait of gays, I don't want them. There's no room in the clubhouse for them.

Women are good at sensing that someone is not right in the head. Much better than they are at sensing a guy is gay.

R1, Please add to your spot-on theory that Incels expect the women of their desires to only be physically perfect specimens.

Of course unlike those portrayed in Hollywood movies, where they fall for men with less than model-type looks, the young woman of choice must be virginal. Or at least resistant to the "cock carousel" of Black men. Yes I'm serious. Incels deeply resent Black males for their ability to get White women. They ignore the fact that the majority of Black men are used to constant rejection and therefore must try harder to succeed in the job market as well as in life. Women respond favorably to men who aren't "whiners."

In this case, maybe it's because he'a actually really unattractive... who the hell would want to fuck that thing?

R15, Plenty of women date and marry unattractive men who've developed a great personality, are funny, or otherwise meet their partner's emotional needs. Or the two have many values and hobbies in common.

Of course some of these women aren't physically perfect either which Incels expect after being brainwashed by porn fantasy movies.

Maybe a small percent, like someone said, women detect creeps faster than gay men, an incel can act and react very awkward and innapropied, a gay men will mostly ignore a woman.

Please, let's not try to claim them. We have enough problems now.

What females sense immediately is their hatred for women, not that they're closeted gays. Would you want to date someone who truly despises you and looks down upon you because you're gay?

Incels are domestic abusers lacking social skills, so they're unable to get close enough to a woman to get her under their thumb. And that's what they're enraged about. Because domestic abusers have huge egos and a massive sense of entitlement - basically, they truly believe women are only to perform services for them and to be their punching bags. Incels are just so obvious about this, women spot it immediately and stay far away, unlike the typical domestic abuser, who generally has enough charm and/or social skills to hide their underlying violence until the woman is completely sucked into their orbit.

R19, Believe you are speaking of Incels who lash out in violence. I was referring of those who endlessly whine on the internet and specifically on the Chans trying to find like-minded "basement dwellers."

Note that many Incels are spoiled by their equally totally unrealistic mothers. Far, far cry from the often physically unattractive (by Western standards) boys who start working to help support their families at a very young age and thus develop social skills as well as an excellent work ethic. They never lack opportunities to date either.

There are gay incels too. Think of all the hot insta hoes. They get other unattractive gays are worked up.

Eloquently said, r17.

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Only a few are deeply fucked-up gays who aren't even out to themselves.

The majority of those creeps are straight, and IMHO straight male entitlement is a big part of what makes them so obnoxious and/or dangerous. They expect to be treated like kings of the world, as they are overhwlemingly white and straight and are definitely male, and they are incredibly furious at the world and all of womankind, because they see themselves as having been cheated out of what they believe to be a straight white man's birthright. They think they are owed top jobs and beautiful girlfriends to be their sex toys, life coaches, and punching bags, and they think they should be given these entitlements without any real effort on their own part. They see themselves as superior beings, God knows why, and they hate everyone who doesn't agree - and that's absolutely eveyrone.