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Tell me everything about Suzanne Pleshette

I worshipped her in The Birds and The Bob Newhart Show. She seemed like the absolute best kind of gal. Share some stories.

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by Anonymousreply 11811/23/2020

After her first husband died, she married Tom Poston. Bob Newhart introduced them.

by Anonymousreply 111/19/2020

How did Mary Frann feel about Suzanne’s appearance in the final episode of Newhart?

by Anonymousreply 211/19/2020

Sexy voice. I remember her in some weird TV movie with Tom Berenger as her boxer son and there was some off incest subtext or something to that effect. This was years ago I must have been very young . She was very pretty.

by Anonymousreply 311/19/2020

fun interview.

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by Anonymousreply 411/19/2020

She dazzled on Johnny Carson. One of the great talk show guests.

by Anonymousreply 511/19/2020

Bedroom eyes.

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by Anonymousreply 611/19/2020

She was freaking hilarious as Karen's mom on Will & Grace.

by Anonymousreply 711/19/2020

Couldn’t keep her hands off the men in this movie. She was gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 811/19/2020

She was an occasional guest star on Route 66. She was such a stunner.

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by Anonymousreply 911/19/2020

Far too pretty as Leona Helmsley even though they tried to make her harder looking. The young Leona was attractive, but Suzanne was exquisite. She said in an interview that she had the opportunity to meet Leona but turned it down.

by Anonymousreply 1011/19/2020

From her obit in the L.A. Times:

Off-camera, Pleshette was known for being what an Orlando Sentinel reporter once described as "an earthy dame, an Auntie Mame who isn't afraid to tell a dirty story." Or, as TV Guide put it in 1972: "Her conversations — mostly meandering monologues — are sprinkled with aphorisms, anecdotes, salty opinions and X-rated expletives."

by Anonymousreply 1111/19/2020

In the pantheon of campfests, her turn as Leona Helmsley is only bested by Mommie Dearest.

by Anonymousreply 1211/19/2020

I like her in the silly "If It's Tuesday, It Must Be Belgium" with sexy Ian McShane.

by Anonymousreply 1311/19/2020

R12 "I'm the only one who snaps around here.", a classic line. Also, "Just buzz em', honey."

by Anonymousreply 1411/19/2020

Ian and Suzanne

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by Anonymousreply 1511/19/2020

She was runner-up to Sandra Church in the OBC of Gypsy.

by Anonymousreply 1611/19/2020

Her Annie...

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by Anonymousreply 1711/19/2020

Were she and Stefanie Powers up for some of the same roles back in the day?

by Anonymousreply 1811/19/2020

The tv academy interview is great fun. A bit full of herself but lots of great stories. David Janssen was her great love, where the timing was never right.

by Anonymousreply 1911/19/2020

Ruth Gordon wrote in her memoir that she was walking down a street on Broadway with Mary MacArthur, Helen Hayes’ daughter when the came across a theater marquee with Suzanne Pleshette’s name in it. “I hate her,” said Mary. They’d been up for the same part.

by Anonymousreply 2011/19/2020

I read she was married to hunky Troy Donahue.

by Anonymousreply 2111/19/2020

Stefanie did Palm Springs Weekend, r18. Suzanne said (kidding) Stefanie never forgave her for turning it down.

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by Anonymousreply 2211/19/2020

She took over for Anne Bancroft on Broadway in The Miracle Worker, and to the surprise of many was a sensation. She was only in her 20s with little experience. She and co-star Patty Duke did not get along. In fact, they hated each other and tried to hurt each other when fighting on stage.

She talks about it in her TV Academy interview.

by Anonymousreply 2311/19/2020

Banger?, R13, R15. Beer spews.

by Anonymousreply 2411/19/2020

She and David Janssen had an on-again, off-again thing for years. They kept catching each other in between other relationships but never made a real go of it.

by Anonymousreply 2511/19/2020

Her first husband was movie star Troy Donahue, whom she divorced in less than a year.

Her second husband was oil man Tommy Gallagher, who was rumored to be gay or bi. They married in 1968 and the marriage lasted until his death from lung cancer in 2000.

Her third husband was actor Tom Poston. They married in 2001. He died in 2007, then she died of lung cancer in 2008.

by Anonymousreply 2611/19/2020

Never someone who could carry a film by herself, but could in ensemble or supporting parts. Perfect for tv dramas and sitcoms.

by Anonymousreply 2711/19/2020

r23, she studied at Neighborhood Playhouse and had 3 Broadway appearances under her belt...

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by Anonymousreply 2811/19/2020

She loved to smoke cigarettes.

by Anonymousreply 2911/19/2020

She preferred ranch to bleu cheese as a dip for her Buffalo wings. That never quite sat right with me.

by Anonymousreply 3011/19/2020

R2 , that ending was coined by Newharts real wife . Fran was very hurt , that's Why they added the part of his Dream wife was pretty and wore great Sweaters . Suzanne did not stay for the wrap party. Remember watching it with my first partner at the old Crazy Rayz in Atlanta .

by Anonymousreply 3111/19/2020

I believe Donald Trump went to her funeral.

by Anonymousreply 3211/19/2020

Troy Donahue as a husband seemed like a real hiccup on her life story. I wouldn't have imagined him as her type at all.

She and Tom Poston went back a long way. As young actors they both appeared in a Broadway flop in 1959 called Golden Fleecing.

by Anonymousreply 3311/19/2020

Did she have an eye job in later years? She always looked different to me after Bob Newhart Show ended but I could never pinpoint how exactly.

by Anonymousreply 3411/19/2020

She was a classy broad.

by Anonymousreply 3511/19/2020

her relating the Patty Duke episode / on the Youtube/ interview

"Helen Keller SAW that night!!"

DataLounge must viewing

by Anonymousreply 3611/19/2020

I lived in LA in the 1970s and she was a gay favorite back then. The rumors at the time (of which I presume none of them were true) were that she was married to hair dresser, lived in a high rise condo on Sunset and Doheney, and was really a lesbian.

by Anonymousreply 3711/19/2020

She was cousin to actor John Pleshette of Knots Landing fame.

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by Anonymousreply 3811/19/2020

Wow! Just spent the last hour and a half watching her in that interview in its entirety at r4. So smart and entertaining! Thanks for posting.

by Anonymousreply 3911/19/2020

Her digs...

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by Anonymousreply 4011/19/2020

r29, so that's how she got that deep voice.

by Anonymousreply 4111/19/2020

She said that while she liked Steve McQueen as a friend, he was the cheapest person she ever met.

by Anonymousreply 4211/19/2020

Klass with a capitol K!

by Anonymousreply 4311/19/2020

[quote] She said that while she liked Steve McQueen as a friend, he was the cheapest person she ever met.

He was just saving money for that long, long life he was going to have.

by Anonymousreply 4411/19/2020

She molested me on the Universal backlot.

by Anonymousreply 4511/19/2020

She liked being caned and she was a great friend of Tennessee Williams.

by Anonymousreply 4611/19/2020

DL fave Susie Lee said that she'd always just assumed Pleshette was a lesbian, but didn't cite any proof.

by Anonymousreply 4711/19/2020

She replaced me in a sitcom pilot and I’m a guy.

by Anonymousreply 4811/19/2020

She was great in The Fugitive; I mean especially it was a great show, Stephen King called it the greatest TV show of all time. David Janssen was voted the greatest leading man in television of all time, he was kinda the male counterpart to Mary Tyler Moore. Cool that she played Karen's mom in Will and Grace.

I see a rivaling string of TV shows between the Lorre crew and Kohan/Mutchnick in the 90s, later 80s and 2000s; and Cybill, Spin City, a bit Defenders of the Earth (Lorre started with Comics), Two and a Half Men, somewhat Lost, a little bit the Fugitive reboot, and maybe MacGyver et. al. on the one hand and on the other Will and Grace, Frasier, Cheers, and I guess Golden Girls (Kohan/Mutchnick I think met at the Golden Girls, Marc Cherry started-ish(?) there as well), somewhat Desperate Housewives, ER, a little bit Alf (e.g. Max Wright played a progressive, left wing politician in a two-part episode on Cheers and was a very accomplished theatre actor, as several others at least somewhat in that line-up string). Wright also had a starring role in Reds, which was the mainish project of Warren Beatty's life, Beatty's wife Annett Bening was the female lead in The American President with Michael Douglas, which also starred John Mahoney and Wendy Malick, both as members of the White House staff, who would later be reunited in Frasier, playing a couple. The movie was written by Aaron Sorkin, who had a short affair with Kristin Davis, who had a complementary role to Grace in an episode of W&G.

Michael J Fox's role was inspired by George Stephanopolous and would help him get the lead in Spin City afterwards, as did Martin Sheen's role with The West Wing, which connects The West Wing with TAAHM and the Lorre Wing, but I guess it is closer to the W&G, Cheers, Frasier, DH wing. Adrian Lester's role in Primary Colors was also inspired by Stephanopolous, and it had Emma Thompson as Hillary Clinton, who had played Frasier's first wife in Cheers, and Maura Tierney in a main role as well, who was an integral part on ER, which I guess is a bit connected to the W&G, Cheers, ... wing, and had the husband of Felicity Huffman in it, who also had a small role in Frasier, besides DH main role. The movie also had Diane Ladd in it, whose husband, Bruce Dern, had memorable roles as villain in The Fugitive, which connects Primary Colors more with the Lorre wing, one next to his wife. Alison Janney had a role in it as well, and she played a small but important role in Lost.

I see the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Cheers and Frasier as a trilogy, and I Love Lucy and W&G as Alpha and Omega, also great that they had a reminiscence episode of I Love Lucy in the second last episode of W&G. I regard The Mary Tyler Moore Show and The Fugitive as integral parts of the different strings, and somewhat complementary to each other, also their leads and The Honeymooners as something like an ILL complementary, antagonistic Alpha leading to the Lorre string. David Paymer was in The American President, a few episodes of Cheers and in Nixon, as was David Hyde Pierce. Nixon was played by Anthony Hopkins, e.g. called the greatest actor alive about 13 years ago by Hugh Grant in an interview, who called it the best thing he's ever done, who played Hitchcock a few years ago. Roz Doyle's mom in Frasier was played by Eva Marie Saint, one of the last surviving members of the Golden Age of Hollywood. Fellow North by Northwest costar Philip Ober was third husband to Vivian Vance.

by Anonymousreply 4911/19/2020

r49, Phil Ober was Vivian's second husband.

by Anonymousreply 5011/20/2020

I enjoyed her on Nightingales. Too bad it was cancelled so quickly.

by Anonymousreply 5111/20/2020

I had a huge crush on her when I was a kid.

by Anonymousreply 5211/20/2020

r49 - tl:dr

by Anonymousreply 5311/20/2020

She said on The Tonight Show when Johnny Carson asked her about her marriage to Troy Donahue: "We were married for about 20 minutes back in the 60's."

I think in the interview she talks about how he called her from his business manager's office a few months after they were married and told her that she had to divorce him by the end of the year or she would be on the hook for a big tax bill that was coming due. She appreciated that!

by Anonymousreply 5411/20/2020

Great color on her...

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by Anonymousreply 5511/20/2020

I was so enchanted with the long interview posted above, I had a look at Suzanne's IBDB credits and was kind of shocked to see how few A list films she made, even at the height of her youthful glory. The Birds might be considered her only really respectable film credit and, of course, she's the 4th (or so) lead.

It's surprising that Hollywood didn't treat her better in the 1960s as she arrived there with major Broadway credits and, god knows, was as beautiful and sexy as any of her contemporaries like Jane Fonda or Natalie Wood. I wonder if there was a rebelliousness against the system that scared off producers? But then again, she worked consistently for over 40 years even if most of it was in schlocky films and TV movies and TV guest spots. Ultimately, her sitcom work might have been where she shone the brightest.

by Anonymousreply 5611/20/2020

Sorry, that should read above as: IBDM credits.

Though her IBDB (Broadway) credits are not bad!

by Anonymousreply 5711/20/2020

I remember her on The Tonight Show with Rodney Dangerfield doing standup. When he told a good joke, you could hear her off camera with that throaty laugh.

by Anonymousreply 5811/20/2020

Well again , r56, she turned down Palm Springs Weekend. She was being put in the starlet mold along with Stefanie and Connie Stevens. Fonda came from Hollywood royalty and there were expectations/opportunities of/for her to rise above starlet level. Natalie had acted since childhood so there was never a period where they needed to push her as a starlet. Bancroft had almost a decade of film (B-level) and TV before she broke through with The Miracle Worker (and got serious DRAMATIC actress cred). I won't say Pleshette is the poor man's Bancroft, but I think Bancroft's features and acting work better on the big screen and Pleshette's on the small.

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by Anonymousreply 5911/20/2020

Suzanne Pleshette and Tony Curtis starred in "40 Pounds of Trouble" (1962), a significant chunk of which was filmed in Disneyland.

They also both appeared in "Suppose They Gave a War and Nobody Came" (1970).

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by Anonymousreply 6011/20/2020

My dad thought she was hot.

by Anonymousreply 6111/20/2020

I only began to appreciate her late in her career. She used to gloat that she kept her own nose!

by Anonymousreply 6211/20/2020

Such a great face. She could do sultry and yet still be cute.

by Anonymousreply 6311/20/2020

Her chance for A list Hollywood stardom happened in the early 1960s, which IMHO was the nadir of Hollywood filmmaking. There were so few great films then that starred young sexy American women.

And then by the time everything got adult and started changing in 1967/68 with Bonnie and Clyde, The Graduate, Easy Rider, etc. she was too associated with the old fashioned idea of a Hollywood star and new faces were sought. Timing was everything.

by Anonymousreply 6411/20/2020

Used to hang out at Chasen's a lot with Sol Syler, the owner of Playtone Records.

by Anonymousreply 6511/20/2020

She was good on "Columbo" where killer Eddie Albert romanced her to keep her quiet.

by Anonymousreply 6611/20/2020

She knew how to carry a torch.

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by Anonymousreply 6711/20/2020

Along Came a Spider

I loved this TV movie. Can't believe it's been 50 years.

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by Anonymousreply 6811/20/2020

She was like Jessica Walters in that she should have had a bigger movie career but did some essential tv stuff.

by Anonymousreply 6911/20/2020

Jessica *Walter*

by Anonymousreply 7011/20/2020

Wow R50 you actually made it to the last sentence of R49's post just to rebuke him. Congrats.

by Anonymousreply 7111/20/2020

Are you kidding, r71? I didn't read any of r49's post but the last sentence caught my eye because of Viv's name.

by Anonymousreply 7211/20/2020

Does anyone remember a TV movie she made with Gil Gerard when he was so hot in the 1990s? It was a silly romcom but very cute.

by Anonymousreply 7311/20/2020

Didn’t she mess around with Robert Loggia while married to Poston?

I think Loggia bragged about sipping champagne from her pussy.

I seem to remember Poston was alive at the time of Loggia’s bragging.

by Anonymousreply 7411/20/2020

[quote]Does anyone remember a TV movie she made with Gil Gerard when he was so hot in the 1990s? It was a silly romcom but very cute.

They were both in:

"Help Wanted: Male" (1982)

"For Love or Money" (1984)

Could it be one of those?

by Anonymousreply 7511/20/2020

R62 lolol her nose was about as real as Ivanka Trump’s!

by Anonymousreply 7611/20/2020

She played a fantastic Leona Helmsley...... "Droplets on my salad!!!! You're FIRED, how dare you!!!!"

by Anonymousreply 7711/20/2020

Never had a nose job. It's rare but it happens.

by Anonymousreply 7811/21/2020

According her her interview (which I also watched in full, it's fantastic) she and Tom P were not introduced by Newhart. Poston was in a play in Philly in 1959. She was flown in to replace the leading lady. Tom P called her in her hotel room and asked is she wanted to run lines. She said 'um but I'm in my robe' and he said 'That's fine!' and they screwed for the duration of the play. After she divorced Troy she was in NYC and he came over to her room at The Plaza and provided his services. Then that was that and Poston guest starred on Newhart many times (he knew Newhart even longer, since the early 50s) which I suppose cemented the connection between Suzanne, Tom and Newhart in people's mind. They reconnected when both were widowed.

I thought she was more beautiful in her 40s than her early 20s. I remember her from TV movies at the time and she had an exquisite face. In her youth she was more cute than beautiful.

R73 That movie you're thinking of was called Help Wanted: Male and it is on Youtube and Gil Gerard is indeed great looking in it.

She had great presence and exuded charisma and charm in her Carson appearances which makes me think she would have been a perfect fit playing a lawyer or politician if the industry had been different at the time. I can easily imagine her in a Veep/West Wing/Good Wife type show.

And damn that interviewer for cutting her off as she mentioned the movie where she played a mother who was having sex with her son (a young Tom Berenger). On the plus side he cut her off to ask about Leona Helmsley.

by Anonymousreply 7911/21/2020

For R73

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by Anonymousreply 8011/21/2020

So did he get the job? (So to speak.)

by Anonymousreply 8111/21/2020

Another campy tv movie featuring a bunch of 80s soap stars that DL will probably remember (no shade!)

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by Anonymousreply 8211/21/2020

I always laugh when people talk about older movie and tv stars and say they could have had bigger careers. Maybe she had exactly the career she wanted. She worked continuously. She obviously had a great reputation and worked non-stop. She seemed to have more than enough money. She had what looked like a long term successful marriage and then shorter one with Tom Poston. It looked like she fucked a ton of hot guys in her 20's and then settled down. She was on a successful sitcom. She worked until she died. She didn't seem to have any regrets. She was kind of a broad. Seemed like a pretty charmed life to me.

by Anonymousreply 8311/21/2020

I remember her from, "The Ugly Dachshund". I was just a tot of a lesbo. I always wanted a great dane and finally had two once I had my own home. I think Dean Jones was in the movie with her.

by Anonymousreply 8411/21/2020

R83 Took the words out of my mouth. She had the life I would want if I could chose. I would never want a 'big A list career' but I would want what Suzanne had which was steady work, enough money to live very well and then be in the circles to meet and be friends with these people but without the pressures of having to be them. Suzanne eulogized Lew Wasserman so she was fairly well connected although they didn't lead to work. She says in the interview she wouldn't ask for career help and risk the friendship, she preferred to have fabulous dinners with these people. Sounds like she enjoyed the lifestyle more than 'the work'.

And she had DL Garden McKay!

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by Anonymousreply 8511/21/2020

She not only made her bed and laid in it, r83....

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by Anonymousreply 8611/21/2020

R84 We had a Great Dane when I was a child. Beautiful dogs. Never had the space since so have moved over to cocker spaniels.

And to keep the thread on track. Here is Suzanne's real life dog coming out with her on Carson. The dog's name is Gypsy. Suzanne almost got the part of Gypsy in the original 'Gypsy'.

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by Anonymousreply 8711/21/2020

Like many, I enjoyed her on Johnny Carson. I always thought she would have been great to know as a friend.

by Anonymousreply 8811/21/2020

I remember someone posting here before that Suzanne was a size queen. And that her original fling w/Poston was in part due to his size.

Definitely not hot when he was older but I could see some BDF

by Anonymousreply 8911/21/2020

Good body

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by Anonymousreply 9011/21/2020

She was closeted until the day she died, but the all female pall bearers were telling.

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by Anonymousreply 9111/21/2020

She wasn’t fucking closeted. Jesus Christ. Those were her best girlfriends as pallbearers.

by Anonymousreply 9211/21/2020

R42 Susanne and McQueen's wife Neille Adams were party girls in Hollywood. Suzanne would tell great stories on Carson's show. She was a great 'broad' -- would have made a great friend!

by Anonymousreply 9311/21/2020

Did she and Carson ever hook up?

by Anonymousreply 9411/21/2020

Can someone please start a Gardner McKay thread? I want to know all about him!

by Anonymousreply 9511/21/2020

Was she one of those "old broads?"

by Anonymousreply 9611/21/2020

In The Bob Newhart Show, when she and Bob were saying goodnight in bed, she turned off the light and a simulated moonlight turned on just at that moment. How did the moon know to ome on just at that instant?

by Anonymousreply 9711/21/2020

A picture is worth a thousand words, r95. Anyway,

by Anonymousreply 9811/21/2020

Oops, sorry, r95...

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by Anonymousreply 9911/21/2020

I remember reading that when she was doing a Disney movie, they let her use their facilities to design her sheets. The problem was that they had such a complete range of colors and the printers didn't have that full a range with their available inks to match them.

by Anonymousreply 10011/21/2020

Suzanne and Gardner

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by Anonymousreply 10111/21/2020

Yes, she was closeted. Her longest marriage was to a gay man. They lived on Doheny and Tommy liked the bars on Santa Monica Blvd.

by Anonymousreply 10211/21/2020

Suzanne liked the kiss of the cane on her bottom.

by Anonymousreply 10311/21/2020

I thought she lived in the Empire West throughout her second marriage?

by Anonymousreply 10411/21/2020

She was Edie Wasserman's best friend

by Anonymousreply 10511/21/2020

I tracked down the 'incest movie' mentioned a few times on the thread. If you've only seen Suzanne in sitcoms and fluff, the seduction scene with Berenger that starts from the 1:20:00 mark is worth a watch. Gives an idea of what she was capable of if cast right and given a script to work with.

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by Anonymousreply 10611/22/2020

Did Suzanne have female lovers? If so, who?

by Anonymousreply 10711/22/2020

Love her

by Anonymousreply 10811/22/2020

She had Poo.

by Anonymousreply 10911/22/2020

R107 Only name that gets thrown out on DL is Tina Sinatra which seems too obvious to me if SP was gay/bi.

In this picture at David Janssen's funeral, they do look like sister wives/sister widows though, he must have had them both.

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by Anonymousreply 11011/22/2020

She was close friends with an actress named Madlyn Rhue.

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by Anonymousreply 11111/22/2020

Was close to Steve McQueen who protected her like a kid sister. He saw her flirting with a much older man when she was a teen and he went over and ran the guy off before offering to take her home.

Love the jetset party scene and was s a frequent guest at Hotel Du Cap, the Gstaad Palace and the Dorchester.

There's a portrait of her on the wall in La Scala restaurant in Bev Hills

Once hosted the Tonight Show pre-Joan Rivers

Was close to the Clintons through her friendship with the Wassermans who hosted fundraising dinners for Clinton

Was Jewish

Grew up on West End Ave and 81st in NYC

Close friend of Roddy McDowall

The Sinatra girls paid for her star on the Walk of Fame

Got her break after graduating from the Neighborhood Playhouse by fucking Dean Stockwell who was cast in 'Compulsion' and asked the producers to give his gf a part, she was girl #5 or something.

Had a writing career and a production company called Marshmallow Manor. Rumored to have done a lot of punch up work on scripts ala Carrie Fisher but refused to speak about her writing career or disclose her penname in interviews.

Anecdote about her potty mouth: Abby Singer, the production manager on Bob Newhart, chewed up the wardrobe girls for spending too much on a dress for Suzanne. Suzanne heard about and called him into her dressing room. She said 'So I heard you're a VP now'. Abby said 'No Suzy, maybe next season I'm still just production manager'. To which Suzanne replied 'You're a vicious prick!'

Random list but OP did ask for everything!

by Anonymousreply 11211/23/2020

Her special friend was Tina Sinatra.

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by Anonymousreply 11311/23/2020

Steve McQueen was an interesting man, wasn't he?

by Anonymousreply 11411/23/2020

After reading Ali MacGraw's bio when someone posted the excerpts on a DL thread, my opinion of McQueen is VERY low. He seemed like an insecure, chauvinistic, violent sack of shit.

by Anonymousreply 11511/23/2020

He also swang both ways, no?

by Anonymousreply 11611/23/2020

No idea but he supposedly very homophobic and would threaten to beat up gay men and generally had all the hallmarks of being very insecure and overcompensating, 'toxic masculinity' if you will.

by Anonymousreply 11711/23/2020

r112, it sounds from your post like you didn't watch that long interview she did for the Television Academy near the top of this thread at r4. You must, she elaborates on a lot of your points including her script writing and pen name, the West End family apartment and the Neighborhood Playhouse.

by Anonymousreply 11811/23/2020
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