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Who are the best Presidents America never had?

Kennedy and Gore?

Maybe Clinton?

by Anonymousreply 8511/20/2020

Obama in my lifetime.

Franklin Roosevelt in the 20th Century.

Lincoln in the 19th.

18th? Maybe Washington if only because he decided against being a monarch.

by Anonymousreply 111/17/2020

Never Had, as in lost their elections or died before they could compete.

by Anonymousreply 211/17/2020

Bobby Kennedy and Al Gore. Also Hillary Clinton.

by Anonymousreply 311/17/2020


by Anonymousreply 411/17/2020

Kodos, R4!!!!

by Anonymousreply 511/17/2020

Pete Buttigieg.

Fortunately, he's just a matter of time.

by Anonymousreply 611/17/2020

Again, Bobby Kennedy & Al Gore

by Anonymousreply 711/17/2020

Maybe Charles Evans Hughes.

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by Anonymousreply 811/18/2020

Short bio @

[quote] Hughes came close to being elected president in 1916. A shift of less than four thousand votes in California would have given him that state’s electoral votes and the presidency. If Hughes had not projected such an austere public image (or if he had secured the support of Governor Hiram W. Johnson), he would probably have been elected.

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by Anonymousreply 911/18/2020

Gore Vidal

by Anonymousreply 1011/18/2020

Adlai Stevenson.

by Anonymousreply 1111/18/2020

I know this won't be popular, but Mitt Romney would have made a decent president.

by Anonymousreply 1211/18/2020

^^Mitt Romney is ok as a republican, but he also had no use for anyone who wasn't white, Christian or straight. 47%

by Anonymousreply 1311/18/2020

Bobby was on his way. I still get teary about it. Al Gore and Hillary both of whom were robbed. Mario Cuomo and Adlai Stevenson— although he probably wouldn’t have been much different than Ike in governance—and Gene McCarthy.

by Anonymousreply 1411/18/2020

I voted for John Kerry and I think he would have been amazing.

by Anonymousreply 1511/18/2020

Gary Hart is somewhere on the list.

by Anonymousreply 1611/18/2020

Howard Dean, the best ever, the DNC's biggest unforgivable mistake.

by Anonymousreply 1711/18/2020

John Kerry.

by Anonymousreply 1811/18/2020

Al Gore, not even close. It's almost painful to think about how different our country (and the world) could be right now if Gore had been POTUS in 2001.

by Anonymousreply 1911/18/2020

Al Gore.

by Anonymousreply 2011/18/2020

If we had elected Romney we would not have gotten Trump. Two terms, he would be ending up now and Biden would probably still be president -elect.

by Anonymousreply 2111/18/2020

Ben Franklin. The only president of the United States who was never president of the United States.

by Anonymousreply 2211/18/2020

Why are Democrats so enamored with Romney?

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by Anonymousreply 2411/18/2020

Howard Dean - That was as angry as I've ever been at the political Establishment. They didn't want Dean so he was out of the race before my state held primaries. I still follow him on Twitter.

Someone mentioned Romney above - He would have been decent and light years ahead of Trump, if only he'd run in 2016 instead of 2012.

Henry Clay for the 19th century

by Anonymousreply 2511/18/2020

Gore? The guy who had the poor judgment to distance himself from Bill and choose that snake Lieberman as running mate? Puhlease.

Nice guy though. Big dick.

by Anonymousreply 2611/18/2020

Gore? His wife fights against free speech and wants to censor every single thing she finds offensive. What's liberal and open minded about that?

by Anonymousreply 2711/18/2020

[Quote] Howard Dean - That was as angry as I've ever been at the political Establishment.

What a genuinely democratic grassroots groundswell he inspired. The only one I've seen in my lifetime. That scared the DNC and their corporate masters and they put a contract out on him. Jeez. Obama's campaign was astroturf compared to Dean's. We lost a huge opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 2811/18/2020

Sarah Louise Palin

by Anonymousreply 2911/18/2020

Isn’t it sad that every recent failed Democratic presidential candidate EXCEPT Mike Dukakis has been mentioned?

I feel sorry for Mike. I don’t know if he would have been a good President, but he did get absolutely bulldozed by the GOP bullshit machine.

by Anonymousreply 3011/18/2020

Barry Goldwater.

by Anonymousreply 3111/18/2020

Wendell Willkie.

by Anonymousreply 3211/18/2020

Moira Rose

by Anonymousreply 3311/18/2020

Leslie Gore

Selina Meyer

by Anonymousreply 3411/18/2020

Ralph Nader.

by Anonymousreply 3511/18/2020

Lincoln - 2nd term.

by Anonymousreply 3611/18/2020

Yes to Nader.

by Anonymousreply 3711/18/2020

R30 I was just about to list Michael Dukakis. He ran the year was born.

by Anonymousreply 3811/18/2020

I think Kerry and Dean are acceptable answers, but I don't know if John Kerry would have made an EXCELLENT president. I think he would've been okay at the very least, but probably not revolutionary.

Al Gore might've saved us a bunch of trouble had he won the election, and I have no doubt that Hillary Clinton would have been pretty competent.

by Anonymousreply 3911/18/2020

And Mitt Romney doesn't have any credibility. He's another one whose a white supremacist. In 2012 he held a press event alongside Donald Trump, with his wife Anne. For a Trump endorsement because of the birther nonsense. And look how that worked out for Mitt.

Mitt is typical white male opportunistic trash. Just like most white men are.

Pure garbage.

by Anonymousreply 4011/18/2020

John Anderson. Just throwing another name out there really, that said I’m sure he would have been better than either Reagan or Carter. I like where he stood on the political spectrum.

by Anonymousreply 4111/18/2020

Oh and Bill Bradley. They floated his name around literally every election cycle as the Democrat who could win America back, and then when he finally does decide to run, its many years too late and against a sitting VP. Whoops.

But I think he would have been great had he run at the right time.

by Anonymousreply 4211/18/2020

Howard Stassen

by Anonymousreply 4311/18/2020

Mario Cuomo, another great missed opportunity. The only politician who came close to being a statesman. And gave us Chris.

by Anonymousreply 4411/18/2020

Bobby Kennedy

Hillary Clinton

Edmund Muskie

by Anonymousreply 4511/19/2020

John McCain would have made a good, maybe even great president; sans Palin, that is. He definitely would have been better than W Bush.

by Anonymousreply 4611/19/2020

Oh wow really!! Better than W? You don't say!?

by Anonymousreply 4711/19/2020

Oh wow really!! Better than W? You don't say!?

by Anonymousreply 4811/19/2020

One thing is for sure, the democratic party is way ahead of the Republican party n diverse presidential tickets.

The first black president, and the first woman of color and first woman vice president etc. And Joe Biden was apart of both winning tickets.

It just goes to show, that going black works in Joe's favor, LOL.

Every time!

by Anonymousreply 4911/19/2020

Robert Kennedy.

by Anonymousreply 5011/19/2020

R43, the one-time boy wonder of politics, the former governor of Minnesota, who later became a running joke due to his continuous bids for the presidency & very bad toupee, was Harold, not Howard, Stassen.

by Anonymousreply 5111/19/2020

Howard Dean, Al Gore, and John Kerry. Dean and Gore in particular ,and to a lesser extent Kerry ,were on the receiving end of relentlessly mocking and snide coverage by the mainstream press as well as the usual right wing suspects. Evgenia Peretz wrote a very insightful article in Vanity Fair (sorry can't link now) about the extent of the press corps irrational attacks against Gore in 2000.

by Anonymousreply 5211/19/2020

RFK for sure.

by Anonymousreply 5311/19/2020

Agree with Bobby Kennedy, Howard Dean, and Hillary Clinton.

As someone who came of age during the Watergate era, I think that Howard Baker would have been an excellent President.

by Anonymousreply 5411/19/2020

FDR! He got us through the Depression and WWII and was just getting going in 1945!!

by Anonymousreply 5511/19/2020

R27, putting a warning label on music doesn't stop people from listening to it, your "free speech" crusade is pretty silly

by Anonymousreply 5611/19/2020

Agree about Howard Dean. I follow him on Twitter - he's a good man.

And Hillary Clinton NEVER would have called the coronavirus a hoax

by Anonymousreply 5711/19/2020

Bill Bradley

by Anonymousreply 5811/19/2020

Bill Bradley

by Anonymousreply 5911/19/2020

I believe that if Hillary had been elected in 2016, that she would not have won re-election this year.

She would have gone down in history as one of the worst presidents because a total of 5000 people died of Covid on her watch.

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by Anonymousreply 6111/20/2020

Sorry, I meant Pete as best. Not the best we never had. Pete, you go gurl!

by Anonymousreply 6211/20/2020

RFK by far.

I'll also say this: James Garfield, who was president, was shot a few months after being inaugurated and died a few months later, and consequently didn't [italic]really[/italic] get to serve as president.

A major goal of his was to create equal opportunity because of both income inequality and racism, and he also proposed a federally-funded universal education system.

by Anonymousreply 6311/20/2020


by Anonymousreply 6411/20/2020

Why me of course!

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by Anonymousreply 6511/20/2020

Al Gore and Hillary Clinton, for sure. McCain might have been okay if he’d been elected in 2000, but no way in hell would I have preferred him over Obama.

Gary Hart would’ve been good, maybe as good as Bill Clinton. Kerry and Dukakis would’ve probably been okay, if uninspiring. Both of them are about as dull as GHW Bush.

by Anonymousreply 6611/20/2020

Wendell Willkie. If FDR hadn't broken precedent and decided to run for a 3rd term, I think Willkie would have won.

Of the losing candidates of this century, while Gore and Kerry would have been better than W., they would have been dull, uninspiring and mediocre presidencies. Not great presidencies. Same with Hillary Clinton. Obama certainly superior to McCain and Romney, but those two would have been better than W. and certainly better than Trump.

by Anonymousreply 6711/20/2020

Mario Cuomo, Hillary, Al Gore, Elizabeth Warren, Bobby Kennedy, and...wait for it... Arnold Schwarznegger

by Anonymousreply 6811/20/2020

Amen to James Garfield. What could have been had he not died due to his grossly negligent doctor.

by Anonymousreply 6911/20/2020

I loved Clinton and Obama.

by Anonymousreply 7011/20/2020

Warren has gone back to being Bernie's mouthpiece. The exact same thing that made her lose the primary. She really doesn't get it.

OK, maybe something controversial to say, but McCain would have dealt with Putin's attacks better than Obama.

by Anonymousreply 7111/20/2020

Clinton would have been okay, but she really had no specific agenda and I suspect she's be Eisenhower-like. Gore at least had an issue to champion.

by Anonymousreply 7211/20/2020

R19 Do any of you actually know Gore. He's as dull as dishwasher. When I see him coming across a room, I run. I can't see him ever having been a great President. And, he wears those stupid cowboy boots like a Republican. But, its really because he's too cheap to buy a decent pair of shoes.

by Anonymousreply 7311/20/2020

Well, Eisenhower had a pretty good run r72. Sometimes sanity is all you need in the White House as we are all learning.

by Anonymousreply 7411/20/2020

Anyone who isn't saying RFK has got to be just too young to know what we missed. Imagine a President who said this at his inauguration:

"Aeschylus...wrote, 'Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.' What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness; but is love and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black."

Except it wasn't at his inauguration, it was extempore, and it was to a largely black audience the night Martin Luther King was assassinated, after all his minders begged him to cancel the engagement because his life could be at risk from the crowd. It is now on his memorial at Arlington.

Just imagine what America could do if someone like that could be President today.

by Anonymousreply 7511/20/2020

John McCain (without Sarah Palin) as he seemed like a decent guy. If I was an American I would have voted for him.

by Anonymousreply 7611/20/2020

McCain was dreadful. You just had to watch the 2008 debates. he seemed like some crazy uncle in the attic. He was reviled by colleagues---a real grandstander, basically chatshow guy.

Whether Gore had a dynamic personality is irrelevant. He would have brought competent people into government and would have moved forward on addressing teh environment.

Eisenhower only looked good after LBJ and Nixon. He was, at best mediocre. He drew Korea to a tie, not a victory. he let McCarthy get away with murder. He had a heart attacks and played golf and let the Dulles brothers commit mayhem in the name of the US

by Anonymousreply 7711/20/2020

R76, McCain said it was a "sad day" when DADT was overturned.

The better man won.

by Anonymousreply 7811/20/2020

Two terms of Clinton post Bush followed by two terms of Obama. Obama under-performed due to having to clean up W's mess while lacking DC experience. Clinton would have fixed up the mess leaving a much better platform for Obama to be transformative in the way he promised but really never delivered.

by Anonymousreply 7911/20/2020

I wonder what kind of president Ross Perot would have been?

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by Anonymousreply 8111/20/2020

R77 I'll never forget Mccains line about Obama being " that one!". For a brief second the genial mask slipped and you could see the run of the mill rage filled rich white guy beneath the phony Maverick routine. He gets a lot of credit for the Obama wasn't a Muslim line but I think he was just playing to what the press would want to hear. And for all the praise he got for denying Obama was Muslim, note that he didn't say that it wouldn't matter if he was.

by Anonymousreply 8211/20/2020

yeah, maybe McCain in 2000 but by 2008 he was filled with rage and bitterness. Would have been an angry, shitty president after that. I wonder if Nixon would have been okay in 1960. By 1968, the bitterness and anger was all consuming. (Admittedly, that had started before 1960, but still ...)

by Anonymousreply 8311/20/2020

Although they were of different parties and philosophies, John McCain was one of the very few public officials who continued to visit his fellow Arizonan Mo Udall throughout Udall's long decline due to Parkinson's. Udall's family never forgot the continued kindness McCain extended in private. If character is exhibited when no one is watching, McCain had it in spades.

by Anonymousreply 8411/20/2020

R83: The 2008 McCain was the same McCain as 2000---he simply was better at cultivating the press and remaining civil. He was always a hard right conservative and basically a spoiled jerk like Bush.

by Anonymousreply 8511/20/2020
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