Joshua Kushner & Karlie Kloss

"Kushner also serves as a Principal of Kushner Companies, a diversified real estate investment company, whose holdings include The New York Observer, a weekly Manhattan newspaper."

Joshua Kushner has an unbelievably cushy deal: His brother is doing dirty work within the United States government, and their jointly owned real estate businesses are profiting from both insider information and from policies that Jared Kushner is influencing or dictating.

When the Kushner family real estate companies do plainly evil and arguably illicit things, Jared takes all the heat publicly with his brother sometimes being mentioned in passing and usually not, but never being implicated even though he is the person who is actively making the business decisions that profit Joshua.

All the while, Joshua continues to be thought of as "the good one" because he claims he is a Democrat. His brother is able to inform and influence business decisions, Joshua can make and implement those decisions, and their bank accounts get fatter. Karlie can then go on Watch What Happens Live and pretend to Andy Cohen that she has nothing to do with her in-laws, and the gays and the gals feel sorry for this poor supermodel, who grows ever richer and is a victim of her own true-blue love for a good man who comes from a bad family!

"This leaves Kushner still holding a large stake in a company that has signaled it is interested in capitalizing on economic calamity, particularly within the hotel industry. With Kushner continuing to operate as a senior adviser to Trump, as the president considers policy steps related to the economy, the potential conflict raised by his Cadre stake arguably has intensified since last December, when Kushner acknowledged a possible conflict. The hotel industry says it needs federal help to stay afloat. Cadre has indicated it is interested in hunting for hotels that go under. Kushner is involved with each of the competing sides of this equation. He could well personally benefit, if Cadre starts making a buck off hotels clobbered by the coronavirus that do not receive federal assistance. (Of course, Donald Trump, who still owns his real estate business, which includes hotels, has his own potential conflicts—but government ethics rules do not apply to the president.)"

This New York Times article details the fucked-uppedness of JK2 Westminster, a division of Kushner Properties. Weirdly, it names the JK as Jared Kushner, completely avoiding that the 2 of JK2 is Joshua Kushner.

Joshua Kushner seems completely immune from any bad press even though he runs the companies that profit Jared and for which Jared is regularly blamed.

"There was no way Warren, who was working as a home health aide, was going to be able to pay such a sum. “I was so desperate,” she said.

If the case was confounding to Warren, it was not unique. Hundreds like it have been filed over the last five years by JK2 Westminster and affiliated businesses in the state of Maryland alone, where the company owns some 8,000 apartments and townhouses. Nor was JK2 Westminster quite as anonymous as its opaque name suggested. It was a subsidiary of a large New York real estate firm called Kushner Companies, which was led by a young man whose initials happened to be J.K.: Jared Kushner."

Thanks for confirming r2 what I thought: the Kushner family is playing both political sides

Hey, OP, you know how I can tell you're a frau?

[quote] Beautiful and Pure Brother Joshua Kushner

[quote] Beautiful and Pure Karlie Kloss

R4 Of course they are. I understand that only Jared is in the public eye much and so his brother is out of sight and therefore out of mind, and people generally don't know what's going on with him. But when people DO discuss him and his wife, it makes my blood boil when they are held aloft as good-hearted true-blue people who are living their best lives and detached from the evil Ivanka and Jared. That is total and utter bullshit.

They split the proceeds from every evil real-estate deal, and it's Jared's brother, "the good one," who is doing those deals and making decisions to harm inpoverished people. Jared takes the bullet in the press and somehow journalists never look in the direction of his brother.

It really sickens me.

That other thread is full of people gushing about how hot Joshua Kushner is and "good for Karlie for speaking out!"

Fucking bullshit. Karlie is cashing in. Her husband is taking insider advice from his brother and they're all laughing it up together at Thanksgiving dinner, Jared and Josh's wine glasses clanking, their convict father beaming with pride, and Ivanka and Karlie exchanging knowing winks.

R5 That is facetiousness, sweetheart. Read the other thread about Karlie and Joshua and you will see that they are indeed being embraced as the pretty and good counterparts to Jared and Ivanka.

There are so many celebrities who say they are Democrats in public, but privately support Republicans. Screw them.

Some day Jared will be investigated and probably indicted. Anyone who stood by these monsters need to be shunned until their last days.

[quote]Karlie Kloss is a Bravo reality show host and she says she is a Democrat and tries to avoid any association with her in-laws because they are obviously evil and soulless people.

The other thread makes it clear she doesn't avoid association with them at all.

Is that why you started another thread? Because you're mad the first one didn't go your way?

[quote]That is facetiousness, sweetheart.

I gathered. I'm not the one with reading comprehension issues, darling OP. You're in the place where discussions of physical attractiveness occur regardless of the person's character or how they ended up in the news. Guy shoots up public place. Is he hot? Guy dies in freak accident. Is he hot? Guy murders wife and children. Is he hot? You read that other thread as people engaged in myth making and cultural messaging about virtue. I see a mild mannered discussion about looks, and some debates about a Project Runway moment and how close the two couples are.

Getting livid about Karlie Kloss is just fucking weird. And indicative of a frau mindset of self-loathing and excessive concern with maintaining traditional appearances.

R9 The majority of the comments in the other thread are gratuitously flattering and could have been scripted by publicists. That is why I started this thread. Joshua Kushner OPERATES the company that Jared Kushner takes the blame for in the press. Jared does shady deals through the White House; Joshua does the shady dealings of the company their ex-con father founded. Yet he gets zero scrutiny in the press, and like Tiffany Trump, everyone assumes he has a heart of gold and is the victim of his familial relationships simply because he is not publicly visible and he claims to be a Democrat. It pisses me off that people are so eagerly ignorant.

Among comments in that thread:

[quote] Josh Kushner (who is a staunch Democrat and a gun control advocate) and wife Karlie

This positions them as virtuous.

[quote] Ivanka converted, Karlie didn't that is why the Kushner parents like Ivanka - and will NEVER accept Karlie. But Josh Kushner married her anyways

This suggests Joshua married his supermodel wife for love and is therefore, again, virtuous.

[quote] Josh is definitely the hot brother (very hot). He actually looks like a warm blooded human being, and sexy to boot.

Here, Josh's appearance is presumed to reveal a good nature, unlike that of his brother.

[quote] Karlie was put in a very awkward position on Project Runway when one of the designers pretty much accused her of being a Trumpster (guilty by association). So this is a very pleasant surprise. PS Karlie handled the situation beautifully. She’s no dummy.

Hence, the "Beautiful and Good Joshua and Karlie" of my above comments. DL posters have painted a portrait of them as being good-hearted people and beautiful, which is a publicist's dream.

[quote] who would want to be that close to all their drama and constant criming? I couldn’t do it. That is why Karlie hasn't spoken to Jared & Ivanka in over 4 years

Demonstrably false, and also totally ignores that Jared learned his "criming" from his criminal real-estate company owner father, and weirdly assumes that Joshua, who now runs that real estate company and splits profits with his criminal brother somehow runs the family company in a wholly legal and proper way--as he orders poor people to live in unhealthful conditions and evicts them during a pandemic.

[quote] good for him. She looks elegant.

Again, conflating pleasing appearances and good character.

[quote] Josh is a hot piece of ass. He needs to get naked.

The only thing that matters to a lot of gays. I bet Aaron Schock is a fan of Joshua, political affiliation notwithstanding.

[quote] This makes me like her a whole lot more.

It was designed to do that. And it isn't true. She is raking in cash from her husband's dirty work, with profits split between Karlie/Josh and Ivanka/Jared, while claiming to be innocent of it all. Does she care about the people who live in her husband's slums? Does she mind when her husband makes deals that benefit from his brother's service to Trump? She cares what you see, not how her bank account gets filled up.

[quote] What line of work is Josh in? I assume he's not involved in the family real estate business if his wife hasn't spoken to his brother in 4 years.

Jesus fucking Christ. And THIS is why I started this thread. Joshua operates the family real estate business. He is the principal. But since he has proclaimed he is a Democrat and since his wife is on gay-approved Bravo, he'll never be held accountable for it. He's playing the good cop, his brother is the bad cop in the press, and together, they're getting richer and richer.

Dorothy Zbornak ended up in the news because her husband owned slums.

Karlie Kloss Kushner? KKK gets to be called the good one. If only Stan had had a more notorious brother to take the fall for him.

I like this thread OP! I posted in the other thread that Ivanka and Jared attended Joshua ‘s and Karie’s wedding, Joshua is a slum lord and scum.

R13 All the weird gushing about them in the other one makes my skin crawl. I don't understand why people are so easily and eagerly smokescreened. I imagine there's a big overlap between them and the people who assume Melania, Tiffany and Barron are "good people" just because we don't hear much from them. Of course they're not good people. Barron is the only one who could be given a benefit of the doubt since he is young and totally unknown to anyone--but every one of his siblings is absolutely rotten to the core, his father is demented, and his mother is a monster. Not a chance he is going to emerge into adulthood with a conscience. Not a chance. Anyway, as long as Joshua and Karlie continue to say they are Democrats, I suppose people will always look upon them as beacons of decency in a dark world, no matter how much they profit from Jared's evil deeds.

Again, OP, you're Fisking a DL thread about Karlie Kloss. This suggests a lack of perspective on your part. You're projecting a weight to the proceedings they do not deserve.

Full lavender marriage but that’s all I got. Good for them of it works. I could care less.

R15 I am railing against Joshua Kushner and you are deflecting my complaints about this invisibly evil counterpart of Jared Kushner to suggest I am worked up pointlessly about a supermodel.

You say there is no weight or significance to acknowledging that Joshua Kushner is not wholly good. Articles about Jared Kushner's slums and impending evictions continue to be published, and his brother is the top executive who makes those decisions and he receives no blame. Instead, he is lauded simply for not being his brother. It is not weightless.

Soulful-eyed Joshua is definitely much hotter than the reptilian Jared, and just being a Democrat, however nominal, makes him a better human being. But he's still a plutocrat with loathsome family connections and business interests. I'll give him some cred when he gives his money away without personal gain.

[quote]You say there is no weight or significance to acknowledging that Joshua Kushner is not wholly good.

No, I'm saying that DL offering positive commentary about his looks does not equal a promotional effort to convince the world that Joshua Kushner is wholly good, deserving of praise and admiration from all reasonable people.

R19 Most of this thread and most of the other one are not about his looks or his wife's looks; in the other thread, those comments are occasional and in this one I only mentioned their appearances to point out that some people seem to determine their character to be good because they find them attractive, which is fallacious. Most of this thread is dedicated to both Kushners' shady business dealings and KKK's hypocrisy.