John Gavin Gay Rumors?

He was hot as hell in Psycho. I wanted him and Anthony Perkins to run off together

No, "gurl," no tea.

Google his info yourself on Gurl Google.

R2, I need need hear from an eldergay who had him in an LA motel room in 1959. You know the kind of Datalounger that does not contribute to Wikipedia.

Sadly, I think not. Urban myth story about him having an erection during the entire filming of the motel room scene with Janet Leigh in her bra in "Psycho," which he had to cover up by holding his shirt in front of his tented pants.

Rock Hudson must have tried.....

Looking hot as hell, he was a panelist this past week on 3 "new" 1973 episodes of To Tell the Truth recently added to the BuzzR TV catalogue.

None.

He married the beautiful Constance Towers.

He was Richard Nixon's Ambassador to mexico.

No, R9, he was Reagan's ambassador.

I was drowning in snatch. Lana Turner and Sandra Dee wanted to fuck him in Imitation of Life.

One of the hottest men to ever grace the screen. Never made it 'big' - but boy was he beautiful.

Just my type. Sadly, they seemed to have stopped making that model years ago. I can't find a replacement ANYWHERE.

I took the name "Towers" because of his tented pants.

He had great screen presence in Spartacus, as good as Steven Boyd. Why did he not make it big? Casting couch issues?

He didn't have "it."

I agree, R12, my type, too. Closest I've come to discovering that "model" of a man in film (relatively recently, but not really) is way back in 1987 – Michael Woods (WHET?) in "Lady Beware."

NO, NO NO.

He was hot

R8 they were a beautiful couple—both stunning people. Constance is still appearing on General Hospital as recently as this year; she went back on the show I believe the year after John died. She is almost 90 years old. I am surprised she's still working.

He never sucked my dick.

Gorgeous but limited as an actor. Aged very well. Saw him on tour in the musical Seesaw. Sang ok. He was fine.

Loni Anderson stated in her memoir that years ago she went home and excitedly told her mother, of all people, that John Gavin had just made love to her.

R21, Also saw him in the Seesaw national tour with Lucie Arnaz and Tommy Tune.

He was robbed of an Oscar nomination for "Midnight Lace".

He was appearing on Broadway in Seesaw when he appeared as a panelist in 1973 on To Tell the Truth. BuzzR TV apparently has only 3 of his weeklong episodes in its catalogue.

R24 John Gavin rescued Doris Day in Midnight Lace. He played the part of the hero in the movie but didn't really have a whole lot to do. But he sure looked pretty!

r26 He was excellent in that movie. I'd like to Laurence Olivier do better in that role!

I actually (sort of) worked with him back in 1970 when he played El Gallo in a summer tour of The Fantasticks that came though the Ogunquit Playhouse in Maine where I was an apprentice. I remember being at a cast party with him where there were several of us young cute apprentices of both sexes but, as far I knew, he made no passes. He was handsome and professional (and very tall) but rather dull and boring in person and not much better onstage.

When I was a kid I saw him n the movie “Back Street” with Susan Heyward and thought he was the most beautiful thing I’d ever seen. I mean, I was mesmerized — no lie. Just a gorgeous man.

R22 Loni Anderson is full of shit.

Hitchcock hated working with him - said something like it was trying to direct a piece of wood.

He certainly was one of the most handsome leading men ever but really better than adequate. I think his best two performances are in Spartacus & the little seen A Time to Love and a Time to Die (1958).

[quote] … I'd like to Laurence Olivier do better in that role!…

Rex Harrison wouldn't stand for that!

John Gavin wasn't a gay.... and I'm the dame who can prove it.

As a kid I vaguely remember his being charming in the TV version of Destry.

[quote] … it was trying to direct a piece of wood.

He was a block of wood. Like some well-polished, well-proportioned Cedar or Mahogany.

r35 Did George Montgomery know about this?

"Hitchcock hated working with him - said something like it was trying to direct a piece of wood."

And yet, he was obsessed with Tippi.

John Davidson was the poor man's John Gavin.

R38

Don't start that again......

John Davidson today . . .

R37 She had tits and a snatch.

R41, Which Hitch never saw.

I also saw him in the national tour of SEESAW. It was 1974. I was 17. In one scene... he took his shirt off.

Oh, yeah. The show also had Lucie Arnaz and Tommy Tune and some songs.

R42 But he wanted to. And that was just for starters.

Gay, you say? Hmmm....

Isn't Spartacus the film that also has the (deleted) scene with Olivier seducing Tony Curtis in the bath house?

Who was responsible for all the gay vibes in the film? Kubrick?

R39, what the hell are you talking about. I don't believe I have ever mentioned either of those gentlemen before. My comment is based on the fact that they have a similar look and neither of them reached as high in his career as they probably wanted, but John Davidson, who, in my opinion, was and still is (thank you R40) a very handsome man who, as a mostly TV actor, never reached the status of Gavin, and Gavin, as multiple people have pointed out here, never reached the status of some of his peers who weren't as good looking as he, but they had something else in front of the camera that he didn't have.

The way Lawrence Olivier touches him in that bath house scene.....mhhhhh.

R46 it's the famous "Do you like oysters or snails?" scene. Funny to think that this was considered "subtle" in 1960. The whole movie is replete with gay references down to the Spartacus-Antoninus "I love you, daddy" final scene.

Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you eat oysters?

Antoninus: When I have them, master.

Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you eat snails?

Antoninus: No, master.

Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?

Antoninus: No, master.

Marcus Licinius Crassus: Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?

Antoninus: Yes, master.

Marcus Licinius Crassus: And taste is not the same as appetite, and therefore not a question of morals.

Antoninus: It could be argued so, master.

Marcus Licinius Crassus: My robe, Antoninus. My taste includes both snails and oysters.

Gavin started with the notorious closeted predator Henry Willson as his manager. As part of the deal his prize client Rock Hudson always got first dibs on all Henry's "new meat". Henry set up the assignation with Hudson. Rock reported back that despite his best efforts Johnny was a "no go'. Pussy only.

Thanks R51. OP here. I guess that settles the case. Too bad...

R31, he is playing a German solider in "A Time to Love and a Time to Die"? Interesting....

He was a the Henry Cavill of his day, handsome face, hot bod, wooden actor.

John Gavin was the poor man's Rock Hudson. Although hotter.

R55 - I thought Tab Hunter was the poor man's Rock Hudson. I'm so confused.

Tab was for the teens, a different market than Rock.

John Gavin definitely picked up where Rock left off in those Douglas Sirk, Ross Hunter and other women's weepies.

But Rock was a good actor, and especially quite good in comedies.

I always confused him with Louis Jourdan.

Sacré Blah!

[quote] Lawrence Olivier

Oh dear, R48, Laurence Olivier!

Without his good looks, John Gavin would never have gotten work as an actor. That *never happens* in Hollywood (rolls eyes). Never a gay rumor.

John Gavin was briefly cast as James Bond in "Diamonds Are Forever" after after playing Franco-American superagent Hubert Bonisseur de la Bath in "No Roses for OSS 117." But United Artists begged Sean Connery to come back to the franchise, after turning down "On Her Majesty's Secret Service," and upped their offer to a record $1.25 million salary.

Tom Tryon was the gay John Gavin.

Rock, John, Linda Cristal, and Susan Kohner with their Golden Globes (1959).

I thought Tryon was perfectly cast as the stoic priest in The Cardinal. Plus he got to take his shirt off.

He was his hunkiest in Imitation of Life. Of course Juanita Moore and Susan Kohner walked off with the picture. I always fast forward through the Turner/Dee scenes. Moore and Kohner wipe them right off the screen.

I was good friends with his daughter, Cristina, at college. Got to meet him a number of times. Quite the hot daddy. Definitely no gay vibes.

If Gardner McKay had been given the same opportunities of John Gavin, he would have become a huge movie star and sex god icon.

John Gavin had a nice intact penis.

What was 'John Gavin's' real name?

R72: John Anthony Golenor

How many actors can boast that they have a cut of trousers named after them at Banana Republic?

Gardner McKay was a hottie too!

I like John Golenor!

R72, Juan Vincent Apablasa was John's birth name. His father was Chilean, while his mother, Delia, was a Mexican-American aristocrat. She later married Herald Ray Golenor, who adopted John and gave him the Golenor name.

I always thought he was the low-rent Rock Hudson.

Golenor sounds better than Apablasa.

But any realness would have helped him avoid that ultra-bland Abercrombie & Fitch fake look.

Wooden? Who says he's wooden?

Like who wouldn't want a bit of that?

Yah Baby!

One lucky newspaper and bed sheet.

He was adorable I’m Thoroughly Modern Millie.

He doesn't get very good billing on the poster.

Does he sing in this?

John Gavin (born John Anthony Golenor; April 8, 1931 – February 9, 2018), 86.

He was born in Los Angeles, California, in 1931. Gavin's mother was Delia Diana Pablos of Mexican descent. His father was Herald Ray Golenor, who had Irish origin.

Loved John Gavin in high melodrama love affair, "Back Street" with Susan Hayward.

^ a bit sad playing a gigolo for an old lady.

What is it with the Irish-Mexican combo? Gorgeous.

He made several Mexican films, including Pedro Paramo, a very hot film.

R86,

[quote]He was born Juan Vincent Apablasa in Los Angeles on April 8, 1931, to Juan Apablasa and Delia Diana Pablos. His father was of Chilean descent, and his mother was from an influential family in Sonora, Mexico. His parents divorced when he was a young child; his mother later married Herald Golenor, who adopted him and changed his name to John Anthony Golenor. He attended St. John’s Military Academy in Los Angeles and Villanova Preparatory School in Ojai, and graduated from Stanford in 1952.

Hitchcock originally wanted Janet Leigh topless in the opening scene in "Psycho".

I believe Vera Miles and Patricia Hitchcock are the only cast members still alive.

[quote] …Pedro Paramo…

I just watched it on Youtube. His moustache is very handsome!

He could want Janet Leigh topless, R92, but we'd never see her from the front - it was 1960s for godsakes. Janet in a bra was shocking enough.

Yes, r92, John Gavin is topless in his Psycho scene because Hitchcock couldn't have Janet Leigh topless. And we are the benefactors of the Hays Code there.

I have ever since found shirtless muscular hairy-chested men in dark dress pants extremely sexy.

R92, Robert Wagner wrote in his autobiography that Janet Leigh had the biggest tits in Hollywood.

Robert Wagner is not a good source if you believe if reality.

Janet Leigh's tits are distractingly large throughout "My Sister Eileen." And, due to being filmed in 1955, they are inordinately pointy.

But title of "Biggest Tits in Hollywood" has always been held by Kathryn Grayson.

Miss Grayson and her great big tits.

R98, Ava Gardner believed Katie Grayson had the biggest tits at MGM.

R98, I saw "Trading Places" with a full audience and there was a collective gasp in the theater when Jamie Lee Curtis removed her bra and we saw those big tits.

R100, Lena Horne said Ava Gardner was the only female at MGM who wasn't padded. Lena knew Ava's well.

I wonder how well John Gavin got to know Red.

He was very wooden in Thunderbirds.

R93, thanks. I saw the film in my Mexican Literature class sitting next to my extremely handsome Mex Lit prof, also Mexican.

Ay, yay, yay.

Actually, the novel is so fantastic and haunting that no film can ever measure up and comes off depressing.