Why I’d Irene Cara’s Career Go Down the....
|by Anonymous||reply 311||Last Thursday at 2:24 PM|
Why’d not Why I’d.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||11/13/2020|
She showed her sad tits in Fame and any sex appeal she had went down the drain. I'm still convinced that scene made many young boys gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||11/13/2020|
Her tragic breasts
|by Anonymous||reply 3||11/13/2020|
It was those ugly titties. It was such a mistake to flash them in movies when she was younger. I never could think of her for the rest of my life without thinking, "God those puppies were sure hideous."
|by Anonymous||reply 4||11/13/2020|
Make it happen girl... 🎬📽💃
|by Anonymous||reply 5||11/13/2020|
Raisin titties, drugs, a legal battle with her record company, accusations she was a Donna Summer rip-off (the Moroder factor), doing shit films like Certain Fury.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||11/13/2020|
[Quote] After 16 Years in Showbiz, Irene Cara, 21, Gets Her Diploma in Movies with Fame
[Quote] By David Sheff, November 10, 1980.
[Quote] She vows, “I’m gonna live forever,” in her rousing hit from the movie Fame, but the real Irene Cara isn’t about to wait that long. What’s she done so far to get her name in lights? “You’re obviously not from New York,” Cara sniffs to an interrogator. “Everyone in New York knows what I’ve done.”
[Quote] That attitude better becomes a prima donna than a Donna Summer. But no one denies that, at just 21, Irene Cara is hot stuff. She was a regular on PBS’ The Electric Company at 13. She starred in her first movie, Sparkle, at 16. She has acted in Tony-winning plays like The Me Nobody Knows and in the original off-Broadway cast of Ain’t Misbehavin’. In 1979 she portrayed Alex Haley’s young mother in Roots: The Next Generations. More recently, she played opposite Powers Boothe as a mistress of the Rev. Jim Jones in the Emmy-winning Guyana Tragedy.
[Quote] So, for Cara, Fame is the inevitable name of her game. “After all these years, it just makes sense,” she says. “I’ve been working longer and harder than most adults.” It doesn’t bother her that some see her role as Fame’s overly ambitious student singer-actress, Coco, as typecasting. “In talent and ability, Coco was obviously modeled on me,” she airily concludes. “I’m very well known in New York with all the casting people. I got the role in Fame even before they heard me sing.”
[Quote] The movie is set in a school modeled after New York’s High School of Performing Arts (which refused official cooperation). Though some of her co-stars are actually older than she, Irene blesses them all as “unaffected kids; they were great—they didn’t need me for nothing.”
[Quote] Since its release, Cara’s Fame hit has propelled the sound track LP to sales of more than 500,000, and now Out Here on My Own, her powerful ballad follow-up from the film, is also heading toward the top. Her musical training is solid—she once sang backup for Evelyn “Champagne” King and Lou Reed—and, post-Fame this summer, she was chosen to open Ray Charles’ 50th birthday concert in L.A. (The critics were lukewarm, however, and one Hollywood exec in the audience groaned, “She should go back to doing background vocals—she’s not a solo artist.”)
|by Anonymous||reply 7||11/13/2020|
[Quote] Few can dispute her performing credits, however, which began at an early age. Raised the youngest of five in the now squalid South Bronx, she had “performing in the blood from the beginning. There’s no childhood for a lot of kids in the Bronx—only survival and killing. But my career gave me a childhood.” Her Puerto Rican father, Gaspar Escalera, a retired professional saxophone player, and her Cuban-American mother recognized Irene’s talents early on and arranged for her training, which started with dancing lessons at 5. She attended private schools, among them the posh Lincoln Square Academy. “I had the most expensive education,” Cara brags. “And my mom was the greatest stage mother. The money I made acting as a child went toward my schooling, but still my parents had to work all the time to pay for my education.” (Her father worked in a steel factory; her mother as a movie theater usher.) Co-incidentally, Irene was accepted at the High School of Performing Arts (where Liza Minnelli and Al Pacino were once students), but did not attend because it would have meant giving up her paid work with The Electric Company.
[Quote] Cara, who now lives temporarily in her mother’s Manhattan apartment, can be feisty and at times abrasive. Eating in an L.A. restaurant, she became belligerent when a waiter took her still burning cigarette away and clamorously berated him to the maître d’. She remains hush-hush about the men in her life, but says she prefers to spend her time among close women friends. “Men have put me through so many changes,” she complains. “They can’t deal with me as just a person, as pretty and as talented as them. They get very ‘Where’s my Barbie Doll?’ ‘Where’s my groupie?’ ” Though she doesn’t frequent discos, she likes to go “partying until you see daylight and people start falling out.”
[Quote] Now Irene has been cast by ABC as an anorexia nervosa victim who befriends Jodie Foster in a forthcoming made-for-TV movie, The Best Little Girl in the World. Though she has her astrological chart read regularly, Cara isn’t sure whether a Fame sequel is in the cards: “Yeah, maybe,” she shrugs coolly, “called Failure.”
|by Anonymous||reply 8||11/13/2020|
Alan Parker should have known better. Some stunt tits would have worked better.
She did the ROOTS II miniseries, SPARKLE, FAME, the Oscar for the FLASHDANCE movie. Then a series of bad films and albums...didn’t she have a coke problem as well?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||11/13/2020|
And we were supposed to be convinced that photographer was turned on by them?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||11/13/2020|
That article makes her sound arrogant as fuck.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||11/13/2020|
Irene Cara was basically just a stand-in for Donna Summer, who for some insane reason refused to sing the themes from Fame and Flashdance. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||11/13/2020|
Do all the drugs you like as long as you show up to work.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||11/13/2020|
Donna became Born Again in 1980, and basically stopped having fun. Irene sounded a bit like Donna and thus, the door was open for her to sing Moroder's fun songs. Even Laura Branigan's Gloria sounded like the songs Donna should have been singing in the '80s. When Donna did sing a more upbeat song like She Works Hard for the Money, she had a huge hit. She could have had so many hit songs because she basically created the template of '80s pop girls with Bad Girls.
Irene just didn't have enough of a presence on stage. Every live performance she gave she was really pedestrian. I remember seeing her guest on the Kids from Fame concert and she was so dull.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||11/13/2020|
Her failed sitcom pilot....wretched. I think that she is pretty though.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||11/13/2020|
Donna really sabotaged her career in the 80s. She could've been just as huge as she was in the 70s if she'd done the right material and didn't turn down so many songs that went on to be huge hits for other artists. The Jesus stuff and her stupid husband being her manager really hurt her professionally.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||11/13/2020|
Didn't a lot of people initially think that Donna Summer was singing "Gloria" when that song first came out?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||11/13/2020|
Donna was on the Flashdance soundtrack, singing the less than inspired "Romeo."
|by Anonymous||reply 18||11/13/2020|
She could hack it as a child star, but not as an adult.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||11/13/2020|
Wow, this thr is about Irene Cara and we’re going on about Donna Summer.
I guess Irene does lack presence 😃
|by Anonymous||reply 20||11/13/2020|
Irene Cara was, as my father used to say, "uglier than a dog's ass." She was never going to be a huge star.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||11/13/2020|
She wasn't ugly. She wasn't much of an entertainer and he voice wasn't first class.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||11/13/2020|
we talked about this once here, some posters claimed she was a complete cunt to work with and THAT’s what did her in, not her little tiddies.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||11/13/2020|
Horrible tits aside, she really is great in Fame. She was born to play that part. The arrogance in the article above in r7 and r8 is probably why she was perfect as Coco, because she was a diva, too.
Although you would have expected a supposedly street smart character like Coco to know that sleazy filmmaker's game.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||11/13/2020|
I always thought Erica Gimpel who played Coco on the TV series was prettier and more likable. Gimpel also aged really well.
Irene is talented but she lacks something.
And she must have been horrible to work with because although she had issues with her recording career, her acting career completely washed up too.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||11/13/2020|
Coco was so thirsty and desperate for fame she went against her instincts and she showed her breastuses.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||11/13/2020|
I loved her song "The Dream" from the DC Cab soundtrack.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||11/13/2020|
I called in sick today because I’m burned out. Came across this thread and decided to watch Fame the OG version, still watching it now. I’ve never watched the entire movie, maybe snippets of it on tv when I was little.
I must say I find Irene Cara annoying in the movie and not annoying in a charismatic way, just annoying. She’s supposed to be a diva in the making but when she’s onscreen there’s nothing to justify it. Now Leroy, that’s a diva. WHET Leroy?
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|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/13/2020|
Whatever the real reason was, it was a really weird ending to her career.
One minute she was at the top of the charts, and then she was...gone. There was no slow, downward slide to the bottom. There was no highly publicized scandal that did her in. There was no massive flop disaster album that she couldn't recover from. There was no announcement of her needing to take a break from showbiz or whatever. She just disappeared, seemingly overnight, from the airwaves and the public consciousness.
"Breakdance" was her 3rd biggest hit single, after the two movie themes. Yeah, it was a terrible song, a song about break dancing that nobody wanted to break dance to, but it was a hit, and she should have followed it up with something to keep the momentum going. Nothing came, and the public moved on pretty quickly and forgot about her.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/13/2020|
She had an album on Elektra records in 1987. It's not accurate to say she just disappeared. She declined commercially, like most do.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/13/2020|
[Quote] I remember a story about her touring in JCS with Dennis DeYoung in the 90s. She played Mary Magdelene and the legend has it she sneezed during I Don't Know How to Love Him and half her collapsed septum went flying across the stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/13/2020|
[quote] She wasn't ugly.
No one said her face was ugly. Only her titties. And they were not just ugly, they were hideous.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/13/2020|
I guess she tried to launch a girl group.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/13/2020|
[Quote] No one said her face was ugly. Only her titties.
[Quote] Irene Cara was, as my father used to say, "uglier than a dog's ass."
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/13/2020|
It always amuse me when gay men are contemptuous of small tits. As if big pendulous breasts are your thing...
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/13/2020|
Oh. The "Flashdance" girl (sniff.)
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/13/2020|
[quote] She showed her sad tits in Fame and any sex appeal she had went down the drain.
She became a one-tit wonder.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/13/2020|
R36, I can't quite recall every detail of her tits, but didn't see achieve the rare small, pendulous tits?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/13/2020|
She was a drunk.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||11/13/2020|
Just saw her tits as I’m still watching the movie now. The tits, wow you guys weren’t exaggerating. There are small tits that look great, in fact small round tits are great on women because they look perky and youthful, plus they don’t sag. But Irene’s are small, wide apart, pendulous banana tits. I can’t unsee them now.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||11/13/2020|
Her tits made me gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/13/2020|
She sued her record label for non-payment of royalties and they barred her from recording elsewhere while the suit was pending (or so she claims) and then other labels didn't want to sign her because she stood up for herself. I'm sure she was owed money, but her career was already on the wane. That plus a horrendous drug problem all but killed her chances at a comeback.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/13/2020|
[Quote] the rare small, pendulous tits?
Don't think so.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/13/2020|
[Quote] other labels didn't want to sign her because she stood up for herself.
Elektra records was a label.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||11/13/2020|
How has she managed to live for the past 35 years? Could royalties from two songs she didn't even write be enough?
I always wonder that about artists who haven't worked in decades and didn't have a huge catalog.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||11/13/2020|
In no way are they pendulous.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/13/2020|
Small tits look great in clothes.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/13/2020|
[quote] How has she managed to live for the past 35 years? Could royalties from two songs she didn't even write be enough?
She co-wrote Flashdance (and won an Oscar for it). I'm sure she's lived comfortably off the royalties of that song and will continue to do so.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||11/13/2020|
She guested on Wendy Williams' show earlier in the decade and she was clearly still able to afford pep-me-ups.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||11/13/2020|
I cant believe that utter shit like"Breakdance" charted higher than both "The Dream" and "Why Me". Shockingly wrong!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||11/13/2020|
[quote] Elektra records was a label.
I believe the suit happened after she was dropped by Elektra. I know it wasn't settled until the '90s (in her favor).
But that's why I said (OR SO SHE CLAIMS) in plain English.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||11/13/2020|
Wasn't the suit related to her first label?
|by Anonymous||reply 53||11/13/2020|
Irene was in the 1985ish feature film "Certain Fury" with Tatum O'Neal. BOX. OFFICE. BOMB. Killed her film career.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||11/13/2020|
The guy who wrote YEAR OF THE CAT lives nicely off the royalties so I'm sure the Flashdance royalties keep her housed, clothed and fed. (It is an amazing song having nothing to do with the lyrics but it worked for her)
|by Anonymous||reply 55||11/13/2020|
[quote] Wasn't the suit related to her first label?
Yes, but the poster was refuting the claim that she couldn't get signed by another label after the suit. I believe she had already been signed by Elektra before the suit was filed (but I don't know that for sure). However, Elektra was a one and done deal and she was dropped very quickly after Carasmatic was released. Cara was claiming that once the damage to her reputation had been done due to the prolonged nature of the suit and the slurs about her character, she was unable to score another record deal.
I'm sure she'd like to think it was that, but she was also a nasty person with a drug habit and a flop album in her rear view mirror. No one was clamoring for her.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||11/13/2020|
She looks like Maya Rudolph in the OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||11/13/2020|
i can’t imagine what’s she’s doing in 2020.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||11/13/2020|
[quote] Irene Cara was, as my father used to say, "uglier than a dog's ass." She was never going to be a huge star.
That doesn't stop a homely girl with talent, hunty!
|by Anonymous||reply 59||11/13/2020|
Co-writing one song from 40 years ago could support her all this time?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||11/13/2020|
Seriously. Where is she?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||11/13/2020|
[quote] It always amuse me when gay men are contemptuous of small tits.
Did we complain they were small? NO. We complained they are UGLY and that she showed them off in two movies anyway.
Don't put words in other posters' mouths.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 63||11/13/2020|
And them titties of hers.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 65||11/13/2020|
What do people like Irene Cara do after their fame fades? You never hear about them going into another profession or anything like that. How has she spent her time for the past thirtysomething years?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/13/2020|
[quote] Co-writing one song from 40 years ago could support her all this time?
Do you know how many times Flashdance has been used in other forms of media over the past 40 years? And every time a hefty license fee is secured, part of which goes to Cara. Plus continued sales on all sorts of 80s compilations over the years, huge streaming numbers, film licensing to all manner of home media, worldwide. She's the artist and the co-writer, so she gets a larger slice in many of those situations.
Consider that since 1994, Mariah Carey's All I Want For Christmas has made $60m in royalties. Carey sang the song and co-wrote it so she likely earned a good chunk of that figure for herself. Yes, it's a perennial song, but Flashdance is part of pop culture legend, and was around for an additional 11 years, so it's safe to assume that Cara has taken home a commensurate amount. Yes, she blew through a lot of it early on, and her lawsuits ate up a lot of money, but the song is the gift that keeps on giving. And if she invested well since then, then she's set for life.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||11/13/2020|
I remember reading she was fired from aint misbehavin before it went to broadway when she was found strung out on drugs either when she missed or right before a performance.
Also that her mother was a dragon lady stage parent.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||11/13/2020|
She probably invested her money wisely and is content to live comfortably in obscurity. According to Wikipedia, she divides her time between New Mexico and Florida. That can't be cheap. Not everyone is a desperate Jennifer Garner-style famewhore.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||11/13/2020|
No one is saying small tits are ugly, just that hers were, well she should have insisted on using a tits double. Someone like Miley Cyrus who has small and nice, round tits could pull it off.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||11/13/2020|
Ola! Ola! Ola!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||11/13/2020|
Miley's tits aren't small, they're medium size. If you want to see small tits, look at Kate Hudson.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||11/13/2020|
Another Irene Cara thread.
I guess it's that time of year again.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||11/13/2020|
Miss Mills @ R59, don’t make me start a thread on you!
|by Anonymous||reply 74||11/13/2020|
Karen Kamon, you just died recently.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||11/13/2020|
For those asking how you can afford to live off the proceeds of one single hit song? Patrick Hernandez has been living very comfortably for 40 years in the south of France off the royalties of just one song, the global mega-hit “Born to be alive” (the one that features DL fave Madonna as a backup singer).
|by Anonymous||reply 76||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 77||11/13/2020|
James Blunt with his hit, You’re Beautiful, lives quite nicely from royalties from that one song.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||11/13/2020|
R72 no Miley’s tits are small, she herself said so but said she was proud to be A-cup. Kate Hudson’s tits (before fake ones) were not small, they were non-existent pretty much pancake tits.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||11/13/2020|
Patrick and Madonna.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||11/13/2020|
Has she been arrested for meth?
|by Anonymous||reply 81||11/13/2020|
I wonder if Alan Parker asked her to show those raisin titties before shooting?
I'm surprised she wasn't asked to get a boob job.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||11/13/2020|
Raisin titties = small tits, no?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||11/13/2020|
Kate Hudson and Irene are sisters in breasts. Both cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||11/13/2020|
Out here on my own is still a beautiful song and she did it wonderfully. I remember even back then hearing she was "difficult" .I loved her as Coco,and I will always love Fame.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||11/13/2020|
Flashdance was also turned into a stage show, so Irene gets some money from live performances of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||11/13/2020|
Irene's duet with Freddie Jackson, from the 1989 animated movie "All Dogs Go to Heaven."
|by Anonymous||reply 87||11/13/2020|
Was Irene's nemesis David Geffen?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||11/13/2020|
There was a show on youtube I watched where some British guy tracked down cast members from Fame the TV show and movie.
Cara was the hardest to find (I think they built it up for dramatic purposes)
He eventually found her and they talked in a restaurant somewhere in AZ or NM.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||11/13/2020|
I thought she sued Geffen and won? And wasn't the Electra album was pulled as part of that lawsuit against Geffen Records? You piss off a bitch like Geffen and your career is dead in the water, big boobs or tiny titays.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||11/13/2020|
r57 I though the picture was of Maya too. She looks more like Irene than she odes her mother, Minnie Riperton.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 92||11/13/2020|
"Karen Kamon, you just died recently."
Even death does not stop the manhunt, R75.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||11/13/2020|
If she divides her time between Florida and New Mexico then she probably claims residence in the former because there’s no income tax there.
It’s not that hard for someone to not work if they have a decent stream of income from real estate investments. A rental property or two will generate enough income if you live within your means. It’s how Ryan O’Neal hasn’t had to work for decades. For someone like Cara who wasn’t a big star but had success nonetheless, it’s still likely that she had earned enough money to invest wisely to generate income stream aside from royalties. The smart ones don’t live on royalties, they use money to make more money so they don’t have to rely on royalties l.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||11/13/2020|
Irene's mom cameos at the 0:20 mark. I don't know how anyone expected this song to be a hit.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||11/13/2020|
Maybe she has a husband or boyfriend that works.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||11/13/2020|
Donna Summer pissed off David Geffen and look what happened to her career.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||11/13/2020|
She has the tits of a 12 yo in her first training bra.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 99||11/13/2020|
Fame was written by Michael Gore, who won an Oscar for ir and got his break in show biz thanks to older sister Lesley, who in turn got to write On My Own at a time when her star had dimmed thanks to little brother Mikey coming to the rescue.
It’s as if Warren Beatty had help cast Shirley on some relevant movie during her 70s downtime - which he didn’t.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||11/13/2020|
Way too small for an adult woman. Women have small tits, but hers were the arrested development version.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||11/13/2020|
Way too small for an adult woman. Women have small tits, but hers were the arrested development version.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||11/13/2020|
That 1985 set of that movie with Tatum O’Neal must have been one huge continuous pile of coke on each trailer.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||11/13/2020|
I remember being shocked that she won the Best Female Vocalist Grammy. I was sure it was going to be either Linda Ronstadt for her Nelson Riddle collaboration "What's New" or Donna Summer for "She Works Hard For The Money".
So Irene had 2 major hits (Fame, Flashdance) and 2 minor (Breakdance, Out Here On My Own) , and that was it?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||11/13/2020|
I can only imagine you all going in on Ellen Foley.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||11/13/2020|
We like Ellen Foley. She's been discussed in numerous threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||11/13/2020|
Siedah Garrett lives of royalties for Man in the Mirror she co-wrote the song
|by Anonymous||reply 107||11/13/2020|
I love this song by Irene -- You Were Made for Me.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||11/13/2020|
"It's not accurate to say she just disappeared. She declined commercially, like most do."
There really was no "decline", per se. There was considerable success....a 2nd album that contained a #1 hit, another top 10 hit, and also a top 20 hit...and then, nothing at all.
Until 4 years later, when an album was released that didn't chart, and the single released from it didn't make ANY chart either. Not the pop chart, not the R&B chart, not the adult contemporary chart, not the dance chart. Nada. That's not a decline, that's a complete vanishing act from the public.
I maintain that it's one of the weirder career arcs I've ever seen. At the end of the "What a Feeling" album cycle in 1984, she appeared to be in ascendance. For her to completely fall off the cliff into total career oblivion seemed very unusual.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||11/13/2020|
r109 that's also how I remember it. She had a hot streak for a while in both music and movies and then she just seemed to disappear. You never heard anything about her, which was weird for someone who had a number of solid credits behind her. She wasn't exactly a one-hit wonder.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||11/13/2020|
[Quote] There really was no "decline", per se. There was considerable success....a 2nd album that contained a #1 hit, another top 10 hit, and also a top 20 hit...and then, nothing at all.
Did the albums sell, though? And how many flop singles? She could still get a movie theme at the end of the decade. But beyond that, she was done... (So were other, more successful recording artists of the '80s like Pat Benatar or Jody Watley.)
|by Anonymous||reply 111||11/13/2020|
Do you posit the same question about Jennifer Warnes? She had two big movie hits ("Up Where We Belong" and "I've Had The Time Of My Life") in the eighties and nothing else really hit. I don't think her critically acclaimed Leonard Cohen covers album did much business.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||11/13/2020|
Speaking of "I've Had the Time Of My Life," that was another song Donna Summer turned down. It was offered to her first, but she didn't like that the movie was called "Dirty Dancing." Seriously, that's why she turned it down. Another dumb career move.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||11/13/2020|
Irene recalls her friend Luther Vandross.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||11/13/2020|
Luther told me, "Gurl, you got some ugly-ass titties."
|by Anonymous||reply 115||11/13/2020|
Luther told her she was no Miss Ross!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||11/13/2020|
Irene's career lasted for about five years. Meh.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||11/13/2020|
[quote] Do you posit the same question about Jennifer Warnes? She had two big movie hits ("Up Where We Belong" and "I've Had The Time Of My Life") in the eighties and nothing else really hit. I don't think her critically acclaimed Leonard Cohen covers album did much business.
Jennifer is an odd bird, though. She's something of a recluse and wasn't really chasing success. It kind of just found her for a little while.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||11/13/2020|
[quote] Irene's career lasted for about five years. Meh. —Dionne (Farris, not Warwick)
That's about four and a half years longer than yours did, bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 119||11/13/2020|
I know from watching Botched that she has tuberous breasts, basically a birth defect that is very difficult to correct with plastic surgery. She is probably better off by not getting them mutilated.
Kate Hudson’s pre-boob Job tits were cute. She didn’t have the sag or protruding nipples like Irene did.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 121||11/13/2020|
I used to think that scene from Fame was unrealistic and the character too sophisticated to go through with it BUT I read Vanessa Williams describe her experiences and they were almost the same. (You'd think she'd have seen Fame and been more aware. Actually she was molested by a female cousin and she now thinks that the naked photos were away of acting out sexually to deal with the trauma.)
|by Anonymous||reply 122||11/13/2020|
Or she was happy to show off her body until she realized that such a notion wouldn't fly with her audience.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 124||11/13/2020|
She killed her career singing 'Here's To The Losers' at the Oscars.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||11/13/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 126||11/13/2020|
She was able to afford a Todd Terry set of remixes in the mid 1990s.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||11/13/2020|
She was no Jody Watley...or even Milli Vanilli.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||11/13/2020|
Wrongo, R112. It took several years, but Warnes' "Famous Blue Raincoat" album was eventually certified as a million-seller.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||11/14/2020|
I love the album, r129, but if it takes forever to sell, that's not great for an artists' career. "Dusty In Memphis" has been great for Dusty Springfield's legacy but it didn't help her career when she was still pursuing record success.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||11/14/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 131||11/14/2020|
I don't want to doubt you, R129, because I adore Jennifer and I think that album is amazing, but I can't find any certification or sales figures for it, and I find it hard to believe it even went gold, let alone platinum. Do you have anything to back it up?
And R130 makes an interesting point because Warnes was supposed to do a second volume of Cohen songs, but the first album sold so little at the time that they couldn't raise the money to do another. It's a real shame Warnes didn't do more recording.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||11/14/2020|
Seconding R129 on Famous Blue Raincoat. One of my favorite albums ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||11/14/2020|
You're seconding that it was a million seller?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||11/14/2020|
No, he's seconding that "the disc is a classic."
|by Anonymous||reply 135||11/14/2020|
Wow, some gays are obsessed with Jennifer Warnes, of all people! LMAO!
|by Anonymous||reply 136||11/14/2020|
Who do you expect to be a fan of Jennifer Warnes? Kid Rock fans?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||11/14/2020|
I love this thread.
Only on Datalounge could you move from speaking about Irene Cara's raisin titties to Jennifer Warnes' masterpiece album, Famous Blue Raincoat.
Honestly, though, FBR is a fucking masterpiece. It introduced me to Leonard Cohen and I don't think there is anyone who can sing his songs better than Jennifer. I saw Warnes in a concert a few years ago in Toronto and while it was a good show, she only sang one Cohen song - as part of a medley! When she asked for requests from the audience, we all shouted "Songs from Famous Blue Raincoat"!!!! She didn't take our advice and instead sang Up Where We Belong with a backup singer. Bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||11/14/2020|
I don’t like your fashion business, mister.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||11/14/2020|
Now let's compare Irene Raisin Cara to Juice Newton.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||11/14/2020|
Wow, how long ago was that concert, R138? I remember she did a show in LA I want to say somewhere in the past 10 years and I was away on a shoot and couldn't attend. I was so upset as I figured it would be my last shot to ever get to see her live.
I got in touch with her a while back through (I want to say) one of her reps because I wanted to interview her on camera for a project I was working on and I got a very nice note back saying that she was declining. I got the idea she was reticent about being filmed. Her participation wasn't urgent, but I would have loved to sit down with her for an hour.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||11/14/2020|
Juice Newton dodged the low note in "Angel of the Morning." She can fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||11/14/2020|
According to the RIAA website, Jennifer Warnes has achieved gold or platinum status only twice in her career, for the singles "Up Where We Belong" (platinum) and "(I've Had) The Time of My Life" (gold). None of her albums, including "Famous Blue Raincoat", have gone gold or platinum.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||11/14/2020|
I believe Jennifer is already working on a follow up to her last album, which was only released a year or two ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||11/14/2020|
Believe it or not, "Up Where We Belong" was also a song that was originally offered to Donna Summer.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||11/14/2020|
Jen Warnes is still alive??! LMAO!
|by Anonymous||reply 146||11/14/2020|
It must have been about five or six years ago r141. She sounded lovely but I wish she had sung more Cohen. Everybody in the audience seemed to have the same response.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||11/14/2020|
Jennifer Warnes is one of the "whitest" singers ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||11/14/2020|
Those single certifications are interesting (and a little disingenuous). Before Jan 1, 1989, you had to sell 1m copies of a single to go gold and 2m to go platinum. After that date, it was reduced to 500K for gold and 1m for platinum (the same as a full album).
Up Where We Belong was certified gold and platinum on Jan 17, 1989 for sales of 1m, but all of its sales were prior to the date change, so really, the song only went gold.
One could argue similarly about I've Had the Time of My Life, which was certified gold in Feb 1989, but I'd buy that it reached a half million around that date, as the song had only been released 18 months prior.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||11/14/2020|
What about Jen's Right Time of the Night?
|by Anonymous||reply 150||11/14/2020|
I've got her number, hussy.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||11/14/2020|
My favorite Warnes original is Shot Through the Heart.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||11/14/2020|
Didn't grow up in the 80s so didn't get to hear Cara's other non film hits. I finally got to hear them on my 80s station and they were all really fun and enjoyable. I see that none of them were licensed to streaming services probably due to the lawsuits and there is no greatest hits album. I just love 80s cheese in general. Giorgio Moroder is a genius.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||11/14/2020|
Why Me and the D.C. Cab theme, The Dream, are BOPS!!!
I bet even Irene liked to shake her little titties to those ditties!
|by Anonymous||reply 154||11/14/2020|
Why Me is a damn good song. I like The Dream, also, but it doesn't hold up the way Why Me does.
Never cared for Breakdance and I have no idea why it was the standout.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||11/14/2020|
Jennifer made them put a boob shot at the end of the "Why Me" video just to stunt on you hoes.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||11/14/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 157||11/14/2020|
I think Breakdance was a hit because of timing; it was released at the right time, at the height of breakdancing's popularity.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||11/14/2020|
I've never heard Breakdance.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||11/14/2020|
Breakdance was a top 10 hit, hitting number 8. And I don't think most people remember it.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||11/14/2020|
I was around back then, and I can't remember Breakdance at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||11/14/2020|
Wow, OP. Is that a recent photo? She still looks really good as a middle aged woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||11/14/2020|
Poo poo 💩
|by Anonymous||reply 163||11/14/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 164||11/14/2020|
Is it time to move on to Kim Carnes yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 165||11/14/2020|
Don't awaken the Kim Carnes troll!
|by Anonymous||reply 166||11/14/2020|
OH God, not the Kim Carnes troll, please.
I don't want to keep reading about how they got moist listening to Crazy in the Night.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||11/14/2020|
I'm available if you gays would like to chat about me.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||11/14/2020|
Kim Carnes? She had one song. At least Irene had 2-3 songs and a campy movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||11/14/2020|
No, I think we should talk about another singer with raisin titties.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||11/14/2020|
Don't look at me, R170!
|by Anonymous||reply 171||11/14/2020|
[quote]Kim Carnes? She had one song.
Oh Jesus you must not be familiar with The Kim Carnes Troll! He will go on a tirade about how she had MANY hits and was one of the most IMPORTANT artists of the 80s. He's fucking nuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||11/14/2020|
I nominate Stacey Q. Skinny dance pop diva who studied ballet for 10 years. Shaking them small perky ballet dancer tits. Actually like how the 80s singers didn’t feel the need to supersize to fake titties. Whitney had small ones but she got bolt-ons later.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||11/14/2020|
Stacey Q was on The Facts of Life. Not once but twice. Her character ran off with George Clooney.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||11/14/2020|
Her character did not "run off" with GeorgeClooney. He left to work as a roadie on her world tour. Sh e was also on Mama's Family as a member of The Bonecrushers
|by Anonymous||reply 175||11/14/2020|
How has she earned a living the last 35 years?
|by Anonymous||reply 176||11/14/2020|
It's been explained above r176. Apparently the royalties from Fame (which she co-wrote) and investments. I guess that has sustained her at a middle-class level, at least.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||11/14/2020|
R177 Thanks. I didn’t want to read through 175 posts to possibly find the answer.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||11/14/2020|
R176, Facts of Life royalties. Dumb ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||11/14/2020|
Ok DL’ers, which gay porno did Stacey Q sing Two of Hearts?
From the brief article linked below: “ Her second attempt at a hit, We Connect failed to connect on the charts. During a visit to Tibet, Swain converted to Buddhism, where she studied at monasteries. Soon after, she recorded a “spirtually minded pop album”: 1997’s Boomerang (it bombed). Two years later, she made a guest-appearance singing “Two of Hearts” in a gay porno and has gained a following in both the gay and Buddhist communities.“
|by Anonymous||reply 180||11/14/2020|
Irene Cara in many ways had the best kind of career. For those who just want to work for a few years in your 20s then coast on royalties and investment income for rest of your life, it’s not bad at all. No constant rejections and upping your game to compete with the next hot, young thing. No need to work for a living but still get to have a comfortable, middle-class/ upper-middle class lifestyle.nevertheless.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||11/14/2020|
I've read that Katrina Whatsername from Katrina and the Waves makes over $1 million per year from "Walking On Sunshine." If you can write a big hit song that gets lots of licensing agreements, you really can have it made.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||11/14/2020|
I thought was the anti carnes troll that was fingering themselves to crazy in the night?
|by Anonymous||reply 183||11/14/2020|
Why do I get no love?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||11/14/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 185||11/14/2020|
Cara's body filled out and I'm sorry I called them "raisin tits."
|by Anonymous||reply 186||11/14/2020|
[quote] Oh Jesus you must not be familiar with The Kim Carnes Troll! He will go on a tirade about how she had MANY hits and was one of the most IMPORTANT artists of the 80s. He's fucking nuts.
I'm not the Carnes troll, but she DID have more than one hit. She's probably at the same level as Cara, actually. One super enormous hit, a couple more Top 10s and a sprinkling of Top 20s. Kim lasted a smidge longer than Cara did on the charts, but Cara had a 10+ year film/tv career and did Broadway even before that.
Kim and her husband were songwriters, though, and probably made a shit ton of money on the songs they wrote for country artists, which is ironic considering Kim did not write her biggest hit and doesn't get as much in royalties on it.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||11/14/2020|
Irene must have needed money to do "Country 2" with Jermaine Jackson, Lorenzo Lamas and Miss Sean Young.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||11/14/2020|
Have any of you seen Irene's women in prison flick, "Caged In Paradise"?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||11/14/2020|
One off Euro single from 1988: "I Can Sleep."
|by Anonymous||reply 190||11/14/2020|
The Junior Vasquez mix of "All My Heart" is cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||11/14/2020|
[quote] Irene must have needed money to do "Country 2" with Jermaine Jackson, Lorenzo Lamas and Miss Sean Young.
Irene also did a short lived reality/game show series on NBC about 15 years ago called Hit Me Baby One More Time where pop stars of yore (the 80s and 90s) competed against each other, singing one of their own songs and a "hit from today." She won her episode and performed the "hit from today" with her group Hot Caramel, which she was trying hard to get off the ground. She may have done the Country series for similar reasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||11/14/2020|
She still sounds quite arrogant.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||11/14/2020|
PICTURES COME ALIVE, YOU CAN DANCE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR LIFE 💃 😷
|by Anonymous||reply 194||11/14/2020|
Enough of Jennifer Warnes and Kim Carnes. Let’s get back to that LOSER Irene Cara!
|by Anonymous||reply 195||11/15/2020|
She left that Gone Country series after one night in the house. She thought it was going to be serious documentary-type thing about people who wanted to write music stretching beyond their specialty (pop music, R&B, acting) to write a new song as a team. When she realized it was a Big Brother type thing, she walked off. Sorry, but I respect her for not wanting to make an ass out of herself.
Caged in Pardiso is a horrible B-movie. Her husband was a stuntman who aspired to direct. The result is proof he should have stuck to falling out windows. Totally "Up All Night" quality. And it was made just two or three years after her hot streak. It really was a strange descent for her, to go from household name to. . .that.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||11/15/2020|
Screw Irene, why didn't her "Sparkle" co-star Lonette McKee have a bigger career? She was (for a time) much prettier than Irene and a more interesting singer. I wish Curtis Mayfield had allowed the original cast to appear on the Sparkle OST rather than acquiescing to Aretha's demands...
|by Anonymous||reply 197||11/15/2020|
Rainey’s original version of “I can fly” is much better though irenes’s probably would’ve been pretty good if the production values weren’t karaoke level.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||11/15/2020|
Whoops! Rainey’s version of “I can fly”
|by Anonymous||reply 199||11/15/2020|
I Can Fly? You mean I Believe I Can Fly. #1 for me, bitches.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||11/15/2020|
Lonette was incredible in Sparkle. Oscar-worthy.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||11/15/2020|
[quote]Screw Irene, why didn't her "Sparkle" co-star Lonette McKee have a bigger career?
Pauline Kael said the movie made a huge mistake by killing off Lonette and Dorian Harewood's characters and leaving the audience with Irene and Phillip Michael Thomas' insufferable characters.
There was buzz for Irene at the time of Fame's release that Irene would get a Best Supporting actress nomination.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||11/15/2020|
Yeah, Sparkle suffers when Lonette leaves the movie. That Cara is supposed to become a huge star seemed odd because she lacked the charisma of Lonette, whose character should have become a megastar.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||11/15/2020|
But Lonette DIDN'T become a megastar... and if she coulda been, she woulda been. And that's. Show business.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||11/15/2020|
No, No Lonette
|by Anonymous||reply 205||11/15/2020|
Lonette is great in Cotton Club, and great to see the new version with all her character put back.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||11/15/2020|
If she was starting now, Irene would’ve been made to get a nose job before she ever made a movie. Also she would’ve gotten fake tits. She would’ve been marketed like a Selena Gomez type.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||11/15/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 208||11/15/2020|
Kim Carnes had a Top 10 hit with her cover of “more love” and another one with Kenny Rogers called “don’t fall in love with a dreamer”. She is a renowned songwriter and has written multiple top 10 country hits for other artists.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||11/15/2020|
^ But what are her tits like?
|by Anonymous||reply 210||11/15/2020|
Kim Carnes had ten top 40 hits from `1980- 1985 as well as appeared on the Flashdance and the We Are the World albums.
She was a huge star.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||11/15/2020|
^ But, what are her tits like?
|by Anonymous||reply 212||11/15/2020|
Irene, gurl, my Sparkle is the one everyone remembers. Remember my name!! Everyone remembers Whitney!!
And Irene, I got a little work done on my breasts. Best decision I ever made. Bobby loved grabbing my new babies. BOBB-AY!!!
You should try it too. Work with what the Lord gave you. I love the Lord!!
|by Anonymous||reply 213||11/15/2020|
This thread trashing Irene is why we hate you.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||11/15/2020|
Whitney had small tits and I think she didn’t get them done until after Waiting to Exhale because her tits still looked small in that movie. She may have had small banana tits but we just never saw them.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||11/15/2020|
[Quote] we just never saw them.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||11/15/2020|
Merv, the only way you saw her tits is if she gave you her bra for you to try on.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||11/15/2020|
No, hon. Watch circa the 4:00 mark.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||11/15/2020|
OP's pic looks like Maya Rudolph.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||11/15/2020|
And yet you are on an Irene Cara thread on DL on a Sunday afternoon r214.
You hate yourself.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||11/15/2020|
Didn't she just write one line of the Flashdance song?
|by Anonymous||reply 221||11/15/2020|
Her voice was too raspy.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||11/15/2020|
OP’s pic looks like if Maya Rudolph and Tatiana Ali had a baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||11/15/2020|
Her flop album, [italic]Carasmatic[/italic], has some decent tunes on it, in particular "Be Your Number One" and "Say Goodnight Irene (to your career)", written by John Farrar.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||11/15/2020|
[Quote] Didn't she just write one line of the Flashdance song?
I wrote one line of the Arthur Theme but it's the one everyone remembers.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||11/15/2020|
I think Cara wrote "what a feeling" so she wrote the most remembered line too.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||11/15/2020|
Who was she married to? Did she ever spawn? I don't think she did.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||11/21/2020|
Is it just me, or does a young Irene Cara look like a Downs Syndrome version of AOC?
|by Anonymous||reply 228||11/21/2020|
She married the stunt co-ordinator of the movie she made with Tatum O'Neal. He went on to direct Irene in the women in prison movie she did. They were married from 1986 to 1991.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||11/21/2020|
Where did you hear Cara only wrote one line of what a feeling?
|by Anonymous||reply 230||11/21/2020|
Joe Bean Esposito was in line to sing the theme tune to Flashdance, so it wasn't a given that Irene would sing it. Did she give away any songs to other artists? Above she mentioned Luther covering one of her songs - did she release the song first?
|by Anonymous||reply 231||11/21/2020|
R230, on Datalounge, Joni Mitchell and Kate Bush are the only women who could ever write a song. The story always went that Moroder wrote the music and needed a lyricist who could evoke something like Cara's "Fame". He didn't know she didn't write "Fame" but she and Keith Forsey got together and wrote the lyrics while riding around NYC in a cab. Only on DL does her role in the song get diminished to having just written one line. Sbe has several solo songwriting credits before and after "Flashdance" but, supposedly, those must be fraudulent, as her name is neither Joni nor Kate.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||11/21/2020|
IIRC correctly, Irene was a holdout. Why would she be a holdout for a song she wrote? I guess there could have been label issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||11/21/2020|
An Irene Cara co-write with the Brother Johnson.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||11/21/2020|
[quote] on Datalounge, Joni Mitchell and Kate Bush are the only women who could ever write a song. The story always went that Moroder wrote the music and needed a lyricist who could evoke something like Cara's "Fame". He didn't know she didn't write "Fame" but she and Keith Forsey got together and wrote the lyrics while riding around NYC in a cab. Only on DL does her role in the song get diminished to having just written one line. Sbe has several solo songwriting credits before and after "Flashdance" but, supposedly, those must be fraudulent, as her name is neither Joni nor Kate.
In fairness to DL, I have actually heard that rumor (and as far as I know, that's all it is- a rumor), for years, well before there was a Datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||11/21/2020|
Taylor Dayne stole her career.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||11/21/2020|
That song is horrible R234.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||11/22/2020|
It's not a horrible song. It's a jam.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||11/22/2020|
Jams are horrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||11/22/2020|
Master Blaster (Jammin')?
|by Anonymous||reply 240||11/22/2020|
Jam On It
|by Anonymous||reply 241||11/22/2020|
Jammin on the one...
|by Anonymous||reply 242||11/22/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 243||11/22/2020|
[quote] Lonette was incredible in Sparkle. Oscar-worthy.
I have a sentimental attachment to "Sparkle." It wasn't a masterpiece by any stretch but Lonette jumps off the screen -- beautiful and charismatic -- she was a natural star. In a different world she would have actually been a star. She is a musician/singer who became an actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||11/22/2020|
[quote] Lonette was incredible in Sparkle. Oscar-worthy.
I have a sentimental attachment to "Sparkle." It wasn't a masterpiece by any stretch but Lonette jumps off the screen -- beautiful and charismatic -- she was a natural star. In a different world she would have actually been a star. She is a musician/singer who became an actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||11/22/2020|
Lonette must be difficult to work with, or her representation at the time was giving her terrible advice, or she just didn't want it that badly- something- because she was arguably the best black female singer actress at that time (not most famous, but one of the most talented), and she was gorgeous. She could have worked much more in film (although she may not have found the roles in film back then as fulfilling, as they were likely wife and girlfriend or hooker roles) and she absolutely could have been one of the premier stage musical actresses of the 80s. I'd love to know what happened there.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||11/22/2020|
Lonette has always said her racially ambiguous looks worked against her. No one would cast her as a white woman. While many casting directors felt her looks were not representative of black womanhood and could alienate a black female audience. "The Cotton Club" could have been another Oscar nomination for her but Coppola was forced by the studio to cut most of her storyline as well as her dazzling performance of "Stormy Weather" from the theatrical version. Spike Lee used her regularly but in small roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||11/23/2020|
Lonette doesn't mince her words...
|by Anonymous||reply 248||11/23/2020|
Lonette is rude AF. Be gone, has-been!
|by Anonymous||reply 249||11/23/2020|
Her response at R248 is hysterical.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||11/23/2020|
Amazing that a person can write one song and live off of it for forty years.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||11/23/2020|
I know R251.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||11/23/2020|
Yes, apparently Katrina is another one with Walking On Sunshine. Lucky bitches!
|by Anonymous||reply 253||11/23/2020|
Bump for Irene!
|by Anonymous||reply 254||11/23/2020|
I've never heard Lonette's version of Stormy Weather, but her Ill Wind is pretty stunning.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||11/23/2020|
Irene Cara thought she was the star of Fame. She wasn't. Carol Massenburg as Shirley Mulholland was.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||11/23/2020|
R255. It's not on YouTube otherwise I'd post. Lonette has said her character in "Cotton Club" was inspired by Lena Horne. So appropriately her performance was dazzling. It was sumptuously shot, with chorines flouncing about and VERY dramatic -- hands dancing, bared teeth, bugged eyes, arms outstretched -- she acted the song. If the original cut of 'The Cotton Club' was released theatrically she could have received a Supporting Actress Oscar nomination.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||11/23/2020|
R257, she would have lost that Oscar, you cheeky bugger!
|by Anonymous||reply 258||11/23/2020|
Yes, she would have lost but a nomination would have set her career on another trajectory.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||11/23/2020|
Yes, she would have lost but a nomination would have set her career on another trajectory.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||11/23/2020|
at first glance, I thought that was Mya Rudolph in the op pic.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||11/23/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 262||Last Tuesday at 5:00 AM|
Mamma Maya. Here I go again.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||Last Tuesday at 1:32 PM|
If my name was Lonette, I'd be angry too.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||Last Tuesday at 3:58 PM|
Lonette had her own singer-songwriter album.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||Last Tuesday at 4:23 PM|
That whore Lonette better stop trying to take the focus off of Irene!
|by Anonymous||reply 266||Last Tuesday at 4:24 PM|
No No Lonette
|by Anonymous||reply 267||Last Tuesday at 4:27 PM|
Young, young Lonette.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||Last Tuesday at 4:39 PM|
None of the Fame cast did very well afterwards except Paul McCrane.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||Last Tuesday at 4:40 PM|
Meg Tilly had a good run until she voluntarily retired. She played Brad Pitt's wife a few years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||Last Tuesday at 4:42 PM|
Meg was pretty much an extra in Fame not sure any attention she got afterwards came from Fame. She did get that prime lift right at prime moment in the dance in the street of the title song. Iconic film moment.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||Last Tuesday at 4:45 PM|
R269, Paul McCartney was not in fame.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||Last Tuesday at 4:49 PM|
We know who the REAL star of FAME was!
|by Anonymous||reply 273||Last Tuesday at 4:50 PM|
r272 yes dear we know. Now take your pills and get some rest.
|by Anonymous||reply 274||Last Tuesday at 4:51 PM|
I would suggest that Debbie Allen has had a bigger career than Paul McCrane.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||Last Tuesday at 4:52 PM|
Boyd Gaines has had a very successful stage career - Broadway etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||Last Tuesday at 4:53 PM|
Debbie Allen? Wasn't she a minor celibrity in 1988?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||Last Tuesday at 4:54 PM|
Yeah, and Debbie is still going. She is a big wig on Grey's Anatomy, still acts and still directs.
|by Anonymous||reply 278||Last Tuesday at 4:54 PM|
Isaac Mizrahi also became a quite well known fashion designer.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||Last Tuesday at 4:55 PM|
Boyd Gaines licked my snatch!
|by Anonymous||reply 280||Last Tuesday at 4:55 PM|
Holland Taylor has also had a long career.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||Last Tuesday at 4:57 PM|
[quote] None of the Fame cast did very well afterwards except Paul McCrane.
Go fuck yourself!
|by Anonymous||reply 282||Last Tuesday at 4:57 PM|
Yes Debbie Allen had a bigger career but she wasn't one of the key players in the original Fame film. I was referring to them: Montgomery, Doris, Ralph, Coco, Bruno, Leroy, Lisa, and Hillary. There's a cool picture of them in Times Square somewhere in this thread. I love the way Paul McCrane dressed in the film.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||Last Tuesday at 4:58 PM|
lol r282 I was going to say Teefy really followed Fame up with some notorious flops
|by Anonymous||reply 284||Last Tuesday at 4:58 PM|
I felt bad for Gene Anthony Ray. I know I know, he pretty much sabotaged himself but what a waste of talent. He must’ve been heavy into the cocaine. Who was he dating? I can’t imagine him being a snow queen.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||Last Tuesday at 5:04 PM|
Guys, you're all forgetting about Barry Miller, who went on to have a solid career in film, tv and stage for the next 20 years, winning a Tony award in 1985.
Strangely, he doesn't seem to have acted since 2003 (unless it's been onstage regionally).
|by Anonymous||reply 286||Last Tuesday at 5:20 PM|
I think Lonette lied about her age. She doesn't sound 14 on this 1968 release.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||Last Tuesday at 5:21 PM|
Miller did do ok. Won a Tony for Biloxi Blues but then oddly didn't get to reprise the part in the movie.
On Illeana Douglas youtube show she had Penelope Ann Miller on and Miller came up in conversation. Douglas said where is he. Miller laughed and made a gesture of "he's crazy" with her finger.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||Last Tuesday at 5:22 PM|
We had a tasteful friends thread about Miller when he sold a house in 2017. Nice house must have saved his money.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||Last Tuesday at 5:24 PM|
I CAN HAVE IT ALL.... HAVE IT ALL.... *jazz hands* 🤗
|by Anonymous||reply 290||Last Tuesday at 5:38 PM|
We all remember Debbie Allen's annual interpretive dance numbers at the Oscars, which were an HOMAGE to the nominated films. Mercilessly ridiculed every year, but it went on for awhile.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||Last Tuesday at 5:50 PM|
Wait a minute- Boyd Gaines is straight??
|by Anonymous||reply 292||Last Tuesday at 5:55 PM|
REM MEM BAH
REM MEM BAH!
|by Anonymous||reply 293||Last Tuesday at 6:21 PM|
This is MY thread! MY THREAD!
|by Anonymous||reply 294||Last Tuesday at 6:35 PM|
Wasn’t Debbie Allen married to James Ingram? He died recently.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||Last Wednesday at 1:27 PM|
No, she was married to Norm Nixon, the basketball player.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||Last Wednesday at 1:31 PM|
Irene, where are you living these days? Are you a southern CA chick? NYC broad? Miami mama?
|by Anonymous||reply 297||Last Wednesday at 3:04 PM|
Irene should be proud that the song fame gave the world the incredible dancing talent of Michelle sutlovich.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||Last Wednesday at 3:46 PM|
I wonder why so few of the movie cast did the TV series.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM|
The TV series is so different from the movie. Completely different tone. Coco is still fame-hungry but Gimpel's Coco would never have taken off her blouse, Montgomery was desexualized and the actor couldn't sing, Leroy was still feisty and fun but watered down, Ralph turned into Danny, who was less serious and more fun (in the spirit of the show).
I still like the show, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 300||Last Wednesday at 4:04 PM|
Take your passion... and make it happen!!!! 💃
|by Anonymous||reply 301||Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM|
I loved the way Paul McCrane dresses in Fame. I think I may try and emulate it now.
|by Anonymous||reply 302||Last Wednesday at 8:44 PM|
As long as you want to go crazy like the dogs in the yard, go for it.
|by Anonymous||reply 303||Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM|
Barry Miller was also in Saturday Night Fever, so he was working/in the map before Fame anyway...
I always remember him most as the physicist in Peggy Sue Got Married
|by Anonymous||reply 304||Last Thursday at 11:58 AM|
Barry Miller must have have invested very well to be able to buy that house his last film/tv credit is in 2003 and his last broadway show was in 1992.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||Last Thursday at 1:03 PM|
Maybe he's in another profession.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||Last Thursday at 1:09 PM|
Barry Miller is really good in the Fame film. I actually like all the lead performances. Alan Parker got good work from them.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||Last Thursday at 1:31 PM|
In the 1980s, I worked for a radio network and one of the shows we produced was a live performance show featuring the top music artists of the day. Irene Cara was booked for one of these performances. We were working with a production company in LA that would deal with the artists directly and handle the logistics for us (we were in New York City). So they always had gossip/feedback for us about the artists after the performance. About Irene Cara, they told us she not only arrived at the venue clearly stoned out of her mind but she puked in the limo that transported her to and from the venue.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||Last Thursday at 1:31 PM|
I still have her nose.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||Last Thursday at 1:33 PM|
I love it when posters like r308 pop up with first-hand dish!
|by Anonymous||reply 310||Last Thursday at 1:36 PM|
No kids either?
|by Anonymous||reply 311||Last Thursday at 2:24 PM|