Discuss this photo of Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner

She looks like shit too.

Those swim trunk are almost under his armpits

For the life of me I never understood the appeal of Sinatra, aka poor man's Tony Bennett.

He was short, not sexy, no charm, mediocre singer and actor. Was it the mob that gave him his career?

Some guys just have skinny legs. He probably gained weight in his chest as he got older.

He really did go in the complete opposite direction when he went from Ava to Mia.

They got divorced when he was 42, so he's probably younger than that here. He looks like he's in his 60s.

Sinatra was scrawny until he was middle-aged. But his cock was always huge.

Ava said Frank "weighed only 110 pounds, but 10 pounds of it is cock," so there’s that.

He was replaced. Finatra wore rubber ears.

Ava: "Frank was all of 110 pounds and 100 of it was cock."

r8 Sinatra's left ear was damaged by forceps when he was born. His left eardrum was also punctured at the same time.

Original Frank

Replacement Frank

Ava's showing a lot of rib there.

'The Poor Man's Tony Bennett'

The most absurd thing I've ever read. Bennett is pure schlock. He is unlistenable. Sinatra may have been a rotten man but at his best he was a vocal genius. A great voice with uncanny timing and nuance. Occasionally singing bad songs and Dagmar not withstanding.

Sorry, had to.

Ronan has had 3 nose jobs and wears blue contacts and a full wig

R7, Ava said that she never said that

It's a fake quote

Nancy said she saw her father naked(it happens) and she said there was nothing special about him. But then there was his valet.

When Frank married Mia, Ava quipped, "I always knew he'd end up in bed with a boy."

She also later denied saying that.

^^Ronan is the spitting image of his mom. I don't see much Frank in him.

R14 is absolutely correct.

Never got Sinatra's supposed sexual appeal, either, in the same way I've never gotten President JFK's. In both cases, I agree that it was probably a power-thing with their sexual admirers.

r16 Frank Sinatra also wore a wig from an early age.

Well if you remember the bugs bunny cartoon, Slick Hare, about celebrities at the Mocambo night club in 1947, Sinatra is portrayed as so skinny he is trying to drink from a straw but the water pressure sucks him down into the straw.

Ava was great in Night of the Iguana all messed up hair with that heat!

He could've still stood to lose a few pounds.

In the movie On the Town, Frank was so skinny that he couldn’t fill out his pants because he had no ass. They had to pad it.

My father was a freak about Sinatra. Absolutely loved and worshipped the man. I thought he was nuts because Sinatra was so corny. Later in life I could appreciate that he was a unique, multifaceted talent.

Ava Garner is one of the most beautiful women ever to appear on screen. She was an original and one of the few stars that I would have really liked to gotten to know. She sounds like she was a pisser.

Sinatra was an asshole but he was a fantastic singer.

I never understood the meaning of The Night of the Iguana.

Everyone was skinny then. It was normal to be able to see the line of ribs. It's only in the last 50 years America became upholstered.

Ava Gardner's house boys had an iguana they kept tied up at the hotel. Richard Burton's messed up ex preacher is like that iguana...an old lizard at the end of his rope.

R31 everyone looked old as shit also and smoked all day.

Two people who prove that the bigger your head relative to your body the bigger the star potential in Hollywood.

Ava always looks a bit like Caesar Romero's Joker to me.

That's not very deep R32, I expected more from a Tennessee Williams story. Maybe that's why I couldn't get into the movie.

They both look like they have very serious eating disorders and smoke a LOT of cigarettes.

Ronan is also 50% Mia.

R36, Um, Google?

People were much thinner post WW II, but Sinatra was extreme. Looney Tunes spoofed him in a couple of cartoons.

Rhapsody in Pew.

Idiot @ R23, don’t you think that if Ronan or Mia could announce that Woody wasn’t Ronan’s father that they would gleefully do so? They don’t do that because it would be a lie and they both know that and Woody knows that and the Sinatra family knows that. Contact lenses, wigs and plastic surgery do not actually change your DNA.

Night of the Iguana is the best overacting of Richard Burton's career - and that's saying something! Thoroughly enjoy it every time!

They’re both skinny as hell.

Frank Sinatra could mop the floor with Tony Bennett.

[quote]R35 Ava always looks a bit like Caesar Romero's Joker to me.

Gardner was not just beautiful, she was distinctive. Her features have more character than Grace Kelly’s, Liz Taylor’s, et al.

Didn't ET say that Ava was the most beautiful of all the Hollywood stars? Supposedly Ava used to pretend she didn't care about her looks but she became a lush when they started to fade.

I've only seen Iguana on stage. Richard Chamberlain at his most beautiful(but never my type) Sylvia Miles and one of the best performances I've ever seen on stage Dorothy McGuire.