Fox News Calling AZ Is The New Obama At the WH Correspondents Dinner
Trump has been railing on Fox all day, falsely (surprise!) claiming their ratings are down and urging his Trumpanzees to alternative universe right wing sites like OAN and Newsmax.
He tweeted that they "forgot who the Golden Goose" was and seemed to blame him for his loss
Axios is reporting that Trump is scheming to put together his own streaming news service because he is now obsessed with taking Fox down.
The writers on Succession really do have their work cut out for them next season topping all this.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 92 | November 15, 2020 12:00 AM
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^^Trump meant that he was the Golden Goose for Fox during his administration. Which, you know, if you think that orange is sort of a shade of gold, and geese are often fattened up for the slaughter....
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 12, 2020 4:52 PM
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I’m sorry, who is this Trump person to whom you refer?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 12, 2020 4:55 PM
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Trump didn’t realise that Fox would turn against him as soon as he was heading out of office. Trump will want to milk his marks for cash. His marks are the same marks who Fox has targeted with the whole Obama-The-Gay-muslim-Stole-Christmas shit.
As competitors, lets just hope that Fox and Trump are both weakened.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 12, 2020 4:59 PM
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I hope they both take the other down.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 12, 2020 4:59 PM
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Of course he is incapable of understanding this...but he is THE worst President EVER! Perhaps THAT had something to do with him losing the election...
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 12, 2020 5:07 PM
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NewsMax has gotten a 20x to 30x ratings boost.
Trumpsters are lemmings.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 12, 2020 5:07 PM
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Good. Let him hate focus on Fox rather than Joe. Fuck him right in the ass.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 12, 2020 5:19 PM
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[Quote]Axios is reporting that Trump is scheming to put together his own streaming news service because he is now obsessed with taking Fox down.
Good. If he's obsessed with with this, he might obsess less with Biden. I hope it means their mutually assured destruction. If Fox loses viewers and ratings, their revenue will decline. Would mainstream, legitimate companies dare advertise on something so extreme and patently crazy a Trump TV? I foresee Limbaugh type of advertising -- buy silver colloidal suspension for its health benefits!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 12, 2020 5:21 PM
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The Arizona call prevented Cheeto from declaring victory on election night and I love it.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 12, 2020 5:22 PM
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[quote] Trump will want to milk his marks for cash. His marks are the same marks
What’s this marks shit???
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 12, 2020 5:23 PM
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[quote] Good. If he's obsessed with with this, he might obsess less with Biden
What do you expect his new network to focus on?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 12, 2020 5:31 PM
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[quote] NewsMax has gotten a 20x to 30x ratings boost.
That's not as impressive as it sounds though
They've been around for years and their ratings were pretty miniscule and still are compared to Fox.
For all three, the future will be around streaming where ratings don't matter--Trump, as per Axios, is looking for a subscription model so it doesn't matter if they're watching so long as they keep paying.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 12, 2020 5:34 PM
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Trump is boiling FOX's bunny, then? DELICIOUS.
"I will not be IGNORED, Murdoch!"
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 12, 2020 5:36 PM
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Unfortunately, AZ won't have their results til after Thanksgiving... maybe.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 12, 2020 6:20 PM
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LOL @ R14...Aunt Florence is counting as fast as her arthritic hands allow.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 12, 2020 6:28 PM
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I'm just loving that this asshole who got away with so much in his lifetime, has had his most spectacular failure on the world stage for all to see, and it probably never would've happened if he hadn't been elected president.
I'd PREFER that he hadn't been elected at all, but this is becoming a somwhat decent trade off. I can't wait to see it worsen for him and his family of drug-addicted grifters at every turn.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 12, 2020 6:30 PM
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Just wait until Trump is out and the FBI arrests his doctor and does a drug raid at Mar A Lago. When your immunity is over, it’s over.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 12, 2020 6:35 PM
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[quote]Trump, as per Axios, is looking for a subscription model so it doesn't matter if they're watching so long as they keep paying.
Three words: Sarah Palin Channel.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 18 | November 12, 2020 6:37 PM
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Yes, let him focus on this for the next two months please so he doesn't focus on firings and fucking up the transition to the Biden Administration.
However, his flying monkeys like Jared, Pompeo, and the GOP clowns will still be busy destroying as much as possible until Jan. 20th.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 12, 2020 6:43 PM
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R10 A "mark" is a chump, a sucker: somebody you run a con on.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 12, 2020 6:57 PM
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[quote] Fox News Calling AZ Is The New Obama At the WH Correspondents Dinner
Maybe. But the buttcrack certainly is, and remains, the new cleavage.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 12, 2020 6:59 PM
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R10, that term, somebody being a “mark,” used to refer to carnival barkers and carnival workers who pulled scams to make money, thinking of “civilians,” or “marks,” (people not in their business), as scam targets.
In the old days, carnivals had games where you could win a prize. Knock over a target, get a stuffed animal as a prize. But the games were fixed so it was very hard or impossible to win. Every once in a while they would let somebody win, but rarely. It was a scam for kids and dumb suckers.
Carnivals were pretty sleazy and the local police often viewed them with suspicion. The people that worked there were often people with no education who couldn’t do anything else. Some were felons who couldn’t find other work. Some were professional “freaks” in the old days, people with unusual physical characteristics. So all these people were shunned by society and banded together against the outside world which had shunned them. They looked at outsiders as fair game. Outsiders were seen as people who deserved what they dished out, because they felt like they were dehumanized by outsiders. So visitors to the carnivals were “marks” (scam targets), not people, to them.
Watch Tod Browning’s movie, “Freaks,” to get an idea of that subculture.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 12, 2020 7:10 PM
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R22 The Grifters is another movie that's a good primer for understanding the Trumps and their conning/grifting ways. There's even hints of incest (a la Donald and Ivanka).
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 12, 2020 7:14 PM
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Maybe FAUX News will learn when you play with a wild dog you will always end up getting bit.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 12, 2020 7:16 PM
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Watch Trump charge a fee for his channel and the welfare lemmings will pay
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 12, 2020 7:22 PM
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Can't wait t see Trumps new show! Will it be on after Robin Byrd or the Tom Select reverse mortgage infomercials? I hope for his viewers sake you can get it via a Clearstream tv Antenna!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 26 | November 12, 2020 7:22 PM
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[italic]Mark[/italic] is also pro-wrestling slang for "fans." As with the carny meaning, it used to mean the fans were suckers who believed what they were watching was real, but now it's used ironically by fans themselves ("I totally marked out when Mae Young showed her titties!").
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 12, 2020 7:22 PM
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Trump is one petty, Petty motherfucker. The angrier he is at Fox news, the less he'll be focused on Biden.
Fox news, meanwhile, will resort to shooting at Trump and pumping up 2024 candidates not named Trump.
Let them rip each other apart.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 12, 2020 7:24 PM
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I don't understand. AZ wouldn't have given him 270. How did that affect his declaring victory?
And what did Obama do at the WH Correspondents Dinner.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 12, 2020 7:31 PM
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Because Fox called it before anybody else, and Biden winning Arizona set up the "Trump is a loser" narrative.
Flipping Arizona was really our first indicator on election night that Trump was not going to win.
Trump or Kushner apparently called Fox and threatened them, but they would not back down.
And from there originates his fury.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 12, 2020 7:37 PM
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It's amazing how the most annoying, irritable, idiots all found employment at Fox News. Orange Cheeto is waiting for the whores and porno actresses he paid to tell him it's over..those are the type of people he will believe.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 12, 2020 7:38 PM
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R29, AZ + NV would have given him 270. Trump was trying to fight Pennsylvania and trying to disqualify votes that were mailed on Election Day but received later, but were still legal. He got them separated and was trying to stop them from being counted. It wasn’t enough to swing PA anyway.
He thought if he won PA, he won. Not if Biden got NV and AZ. That was still 270.
Fox calling it meant he couldn’t declare victory until more votes were counted, for days. They stopped him from declaring prematurely.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 12, 2020 7:39 PM
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There is consolation for Orange Cheeto, prisons do have wi-fi.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 12, 2020 7:40 PM
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Kushner called Rupert Murdoch himself and Rupert was all "Jared who?"
Obama made some jokes about Trump and the WH Correspondents dinner R29 back in 2012 or so and Trump has never forgiven him. A Black man mocked him.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 12, 2020 7:46 PM
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He looks like a flesh puppet in that photo.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 12, 2020 7:50 PM
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Trump wanted to create a moment where it looked like he was winning the election, declare himself the winner and everything else that comes after that, like counting the mail-in ballots, was illegal because Trump declared himself the winner and that is what should count, not the mail-in votes.
That is why he insisted his followers and the Republican voters vote in person, so their votes would come first no matter if they catch Covid-19. So the optics would look like, with Russian help for sure, that there was a massive red wave (70 million US voters supposedly voted for Trump? Sure, Jan) and not a blue wave in the 2020 election.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 12, 2020 7:52 PM
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Obama destroyed him at that dinner. Looking back, it was Obama the mean girl destroying a psychopath that vowed revenge. It was fun at the time, because Trump was constantly claiming Obama was born in Kenya, but not worth it, looking back with 20/20 vision. That dinner was when Trump decided to run, and became obsessed with destroying every good thing Obama ever did. That’s why he’s trying to kill the ACA. Even now.
That dinner was a few hours before Obama bin Laden was killed. Obama knew he had already green lit the mission while he was at the dinner, joking and looking like he didn’t have a care in the world. There was a pretty high probability bin Laden wasn’t there and it could have ended in disaster. The U.S. didn’t have permission to do it from Pakistan.
So while Obama was looking so happy go lucky, his bare ass was waving in the breeze, unknown to all of us. We found out later and everyone marveled at how cool he was.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 12, 2020 7:54 PM
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Trump seething while Obama effortlessly makes him the butt of the joke!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 38 | November 12, 2020 8:01 PM
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I love the above photo in that it gives a whole new perspective on the craziness of trump's "hair". That wet, coagulated extra long sweep of hair demonstrates how the hair that he has is grown to incredibly weird lengths to swirl around and give the illusion that he is not bald. He is bald in so many places, which is seen when high winds work their magic on him. Always, and forever, the ugliness of trump, outside and in.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 39 | November 12, 2020 8:08 PM
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[quote]Axios is reporting that Trump is scheming to put together his own streaming news service because he is now obsessed with taking Fox down.
Well, with his stunning intellect, persistent drive, razor sharp ability to focus, and meticulous attention to detail, he should have this up and running in no time.
Oh, and money...lots and lots of money.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | November 12, 2020 8:14 PM
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Imagine that !!! A President with a sense of humor! Amongst so many things during the last 4 years, I definitely miss that.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 41 | November 12, 2020 8:17 PM
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Trump's bruised ego won't let him see that conservative media won't be so kind to him when he's their direct competition
by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 12, 2020 8:20 PM
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Looking back, Arizona took away Trump's narrative and probably stopped deplorables from rioting and god knows what....
Thank you Fox. You slayed the dragon. lol
by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 12, 2020 8:22 PM
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At the White House Correspondence Dinner, Obama was so brutal towards Trump that the more recent posted comments call it “a supervillain’s origin story,” referring to Trump deciding to get revenge by running himself. That’s literally true, and not a joke, if you think about it.
At the end, Obama thanks journalists, which is customary at that dinner. Trump would never do that. That’s why he won’t go. He’s never been to that annual dinner in four years, and thinks of all journalists reporting the truth as his enemy.
I look forward to Biden doing it next year.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 12, 2020 8:36 PM
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The lunatics at OAN are more right-wing than Fox. A Trump media outlet would be competing with OAN, which may be nothing in the grand scheme of things, but does Trump also plan to destroy OAN to gain a formidable ratings share? Well of course, but just show he knows, right wing-media is more than just Fox.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 12, 2020 8:45 PM
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CNN STILL hasn't called AZ. So odd that Fox called it and not CNN.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | November 12, 2020 8:51 PM
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You just reminded me! Without a big baby in the White House, the Correspondents Dinner will be back! Can you imagine the material? Ha! I hope Michelle and Barack do a set.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 12, 2020 8:57 PM
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Trump will always be known as America's worst president ever and a loser.
That gives me much satisfaction
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 12, 2020 9:12 PM
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R45, with any luck they’ll cannibalize each other. There isn’t an infinite amount of room for extremist right wing networks. People that watch Fox never turn it off. If OANN starts picking up all the revenge-seeking Republicans, it might push Fox to the right of center. Especially if a lot of Trumpers are angry with Fox for calling it and Trump keeps attacking them.
It might turn out to be. Fox = never Trumpers and a few rational Trumpers that can still be reached, OANN, rabid insane people, Trump network, the most rabid of the rabid. But realistically, Trump is going to be fighting criminal and civil charges for years, he might not be able to get a network.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 12, 2020 9:18 PM
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I'm actually going to watch Fox tonight to see what Tucker, Hannity etc. say.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | November 12, 2020 10:56 PM
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Fox deserves to be taken down. They helped create this monster.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | November 12, 2020 10:58 PM
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Actually r51 Fox was against Trump and pro the other republicans. (Jeb Bush etc.)
It was MSNBC and CNN and even NBC who let him host SNL who created Trump. Scarborough had him on constantly for days.
Fox only latched on to him when the other repugs were gone.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 12, 2020 11:12 PM
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I just watched Newsmax for few minutes, as long as I was able to. It is giving the narrative Trump wants. I totally get why his followers went there. The anchor, whoever he is, was pushing down Karl Rove of all people. Remember the time he was one of the most hated people in the country and respected by gop. Now he is an enemy to Trump cult. Whatever gop was few years ago is basically gone. The new gop has gotten grazier and worse than I could have ever imagined. I hate Karl for what he has done but never could have thought far right tv channel is pushing him away to make Trump and his idiots happy.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 12, 2020 11:25 PM
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Rove wrote an op-ed in the WSJ yesterday saying that Trump had lost and would do well to go with some grace in order to protect his legacy.
MAGA-world: "Karl Rove is dead to us!"
by Anonymous | reply 54 | November 12, 2020 11:41 PM
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R53. I agree. The only good thing that may come from this is a lot of bad people may be discredited. Those people will find it impossible to get work catering to people that now hate them, so they may try to moderate themselves and present themselves as “wise old men.” This is what a lot of GOP politicians that lost their elections have done. Suddenly they’re all Mr Reasonable. Jeff Flake, etc.
If all of this makes Karl Rove and his ilk irrelevant, good. But the next set of these rabid but newly unemployed Trumpers will be people like Stephen Miller. They’ll all be trying to get media jobs and try to spread propaganda and brainwash people full time. And they’ll get paid a lot to do it.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 12, 2020 11:42 PM
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OP, Donnie Cheetolini Dumpsterfirekins hasn’t been that thin in YEARS.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | November 12, 2020 11:44 PM
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ETTD Part 387: Trump is a money-losing moron. Every business he attempts fails and this one will too. When Republicans work in a business together the in-fighting, stupidity, and theft generally tear them apart quickly. Any sort of nutty media venture will also fail miserably.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | November 12, 2020 11:45 PM
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R57, it’s really hard to start a new cable network. You need a ton of money, and you need a ton of money going forward. The only way Trump could do it is if he gets money from his Arab and Russian friends.
I read up on this a while back. The problem is, it’s a Catch-22 situation. Cable companies don’t want to carry your network until you have X number of viewers. You can’t get X number of viewers until cable airs you.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | November 12, 2020 11:53 PM
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It seems more like he’s setting up a subscription service to fleece more money out of deplorables
by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 12, 2020 11:55 PM
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That's something similar to what I've been thinking, R58. Really, I can't see Trump himself -- fat, old, and lazy that he is -- doing much more personally than hosting a Rush Limbaugh style radio show where he can sit and bullshit for a couple of hours every day while people blow smoke up his ass. He could make a boatload of money doing that.
But if he wants a network, he's going to need Jared and Ivanka to put it together, funding and all. But of course they know the Saudis and Putin, too, so...
by Anonymous | reply 60 | November 12, 2020 11:56 PM
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[quote]it’s really hard to start a new cable network.
Word is that he wants to make it a streaming, subscription based venture. Sarah Palin Channel, the Sequel.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | November 12, 2020 11:58 PM
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I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up with a Sirius radio show. That’s doable.
Trump doesn’t have the skill to run a network. He would need somebody with a lot of credibility like Rupert Murdoch behind him. I don’t think he would do it. He’s old, he put Fox in his kids’ hands. I don’t think at his age he wants to start over from scratch with a guy who doesn’t listen, screams, fires people and gropes pussies. Murdoch knows how expensive that is.
I do think Murdoch spent a lot of years kissing Trump’s ass, and he did it right until he knew he was going to lose the election. Now what good is he? These people are ruthless. Murdoch has more money than Trump ever will. He doesn’t need him.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 13, 2020 12:00 AM
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Dump should just hit the speaker circuit. He loves to bloviate on a podium. Why not get paid for it?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 13, 2020 12:10 AM
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If Trump can lure one or two of the big Fox News names to his new streaming service he might have a chance.
But probably not.
Cable news viewers are really old (who else has time to watch all that news) and not very tech savvy and they are going to be the last people to give up cable TV.
Cable is not all that lucrative anymore because audiences are shrinking rapidly as younger and more affluent viewers move to streaming.
And streaming services are easier to launch in that you don't need to negotiate a carriage deal with multiple cable companies, who can also take you off the air if they don't like what you are pushing.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 13, 2020 12:22 AM
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He should hire Bill O'Reilly, Ed Henry,Matt Lauer, Mark Halprin, Charlie Rose....all molesters all day long!
by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 13, 2020 12:27 AM
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R64. The only way a Fox type star is going to Trump is if they’re getting paid more. Like a lot more. Going to an unknown new network is a big risk. It could fail. Fox is guaranteed job security.
Who’s paying a Sean Hannity millions of dollars on top of the startup costs? And that’s one guy. You need a whole 24 hours worth to fill. Some can be cheaper people, but not at 8-9 pm. You need at least a couple of stars, plus some other people with at least some following. Otherwise why watch? You can watch Fox.
If he starts poaching Fox stars, that would pit him against a highly organized network with a top line legal team. Plus he would have to wait until their contracts end, plus media contracts have a period when you’re not allowed to appear on a competing network. So probably a couple of years’ wait.
And if you hire Joe Disposable to hold Hannity’s place for a couple of years, you’re never going to get off the ground. The only other thing he could do is buy the contract out from Fox. Lots of money. Where’s it coming from? And why would they? They’ve already got a sure thing. Why give him up?
I think this would turn out like Current TV. That was a disaster because it was badly planned and the contracts were horribly negotiated. Al Gore knew nothing about media contracts. Trump doesn’t know as much as he thinks about entertainment contracts from the network side or the money behind them. And Current couldn’t get ad buys because they didn’t have viewers. People might watch Trump a week, then he better have something entertaining, or they’re gone back to Fox.
And remember he doesn’t pay anybody, and everybody knows it.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 13, 2020 12:35 AM
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[quote]The only way a Fox type star is going to Trump is if they’re getting paid more. Like a lot more. Going to an unknown new network is a big risk. It could fail. Fox is guaranteed job security.
Look what happened to Megyn Kelly. She was at the top of the game. Hosting debates. She sat with Brett Baier when he made the first announcement to the world that Trump had won in 2016.
Then she did a stupid daytime TV show where the list of other people who have tried and failed is 3 miles long.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 13, 2020 12:40 AM
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A streaming service does not have to fill up 24/7, R66. You watch when you want, not on a schedule.
And there are plenty of wealthy Trumpists who would fund him.
A Hannity might jump because he's promised a share of the network if it succeeds.
Or because Rupert tells him his contract is up.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | November 13, 2020 12:48 AM
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^^The other option, the one I think is most likely, is he strikes a deal with Chris Ruddy at Newsmax to do a weekly rally that they carry live.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | November 13, 2020 12:50 AM
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R69, I could see that. Or see Trump doing a one hour show on TV or radio himself. Radio would be better, he’s good at talking, but the problem you have with that is he’d be attacking members of his own party who might be fans but asked the wrong questions. He gets offended very easily and would attack anybody at all who questioned his judgment.
As far as a rally once a week, how long would he get a crowd for that? A year out, maybe, but at a certain point people are going to move on. Some other Republican will get the attention.
I could see him doing a Geraldo type show with people breaking chairs over each others’ heads, for a week. Then it’s off the air due to liability. He’s no Oprah. He can’t be America’s dad.
If he’s going to attack people, the best course is don’t have callers answering back. He’ll alienate them by attacking them. I bet even Rush Limbaugh doesn’t fight his guests. He probably agrees with them.
If he was smart he’d get ordained and become a preacher, or found his own religion. Then go on TV every Sunday, preach, and ask for money. That’s made for him.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | November 13, 2020 1:11 AM
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Trump is a grifter through and through. That media empire he wants to create? That's his time-share grift where rich people think they buy a stake of this media empire that will never get off the ground, because Trump and his family use that money for themselves and not for a professional media startup. They will use idiots like Diamond & Silk, who work on the cheap, to look like they are really trying to get something going.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | November 13, 2020 1:15 AM
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[quote] And there are plenty of wealthy Trumpists who would fund him.
Anyone looking at his business track record is going to think twice about giving Trump money.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | November 13, 2020 1:17 AM
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Yes R70, Limbaugh is noted for making his dumb callers seem smart, saying things like "you are very good at seeing patterns" when they are spooling out some bizarre conspiracy theory etc.
He makes dumb people feel smart, which is what the whole Q thing does. They can "research" things--research being something college students do. All just an updated carnival act.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | November 13, 2020 1:24 AM
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He could do a radio show without callers. He could have a co-host who throws him questions or topics to ramble on about, talking shit like he does at his rallies. I'm sure he would throw enough red meat to his fans to keep them marching and protesting and filling state houses with gun-toting right-wingers all over the country. Maybe have a very few pre-screened callers to keep the listeners believing they can actually talk to him personally and they won't miss a minute, any day of the week.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | November 13, 2020 1:33 AM
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Michael Cohen was on MSNBC the other night and was talking about Trump and how all of this is setting him up to do the whole streaming service thing. He riles up his base with talk of the election being stolen from him, he's the true president, ad nauseum. If he gets only 10 million of the 70 million who voted for him, paying $7/month for his streaming service. $70million/month x 12 months = $840 million for the year. Fucking unbelievable. Who knows how long they'll actually stick with him but I swear, it's like a damn cult. The presidency turned into the ultimate long con.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | November 13, 2020 1:35 AM
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He can’t get a loan in any bank in America. DeutscheBank is in trouble because of him. What bank wants that?
The only way he can get money is somebody handing it over. Not a bank. A private entity.
To give you an idea of what happened with Current TV, they signed a contract with Keith Olbermann for more money than they made the first year. Then they couldn’t pay it. I think he got some points too. Olbermann actually tried to work with them, but they had nothing to work with. They couldn’t get enough advertisers. They couldn’t afford the type of set they promised him and they were in breach of contract. They couldn’t afford a good studio. They couldn’t afford a good launch. He settled out of court and they collapsed. Olbermann must have signed an NDA, he’s never talked about it.
Contrast that with what’s going to happen if some dead-eyed Republican land shark doesn’t get paid. He’ll shout it to the rooftops and sue them into oblivion. And he’d have a right to. Contracts are contracts. And if the other guy is in breach, all bets are off. Points on a start up aren’t going to replace a paycheck. That’s a very high risk venture and people are going to want to be paid.
As far as partnerships go, conceivably if you partner with a known deadbeat, you could not get paid, then be partly liable for Trump’s half baked con-artistry that means some other employee doesn’t get paid. So who would partner with him? Nobody in their right mind. He just stiffs people and then files for bankruptcy. That’s his m.o. it’s a terrible business model.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | November 13, 2020 1:35 AM
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R75, I hope not. But a lot of this comes to who you know. Who does he know that he hasn’t burnt bridges with? People that do things like that are reliable, he’s not.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | November 13, 2020 1:40 AM
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I believe Trump hopes for someone else to set up this media empire, and he's just the highly paid figurehead. You know, something like Oprah. Trump is a lousy businessman who deliberately creates toxic environments where colleagues fight against colleagues and snitch on each other and treat female employees like common whores. Roger Aisle would have loved the opportunity, but he's dead.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | November 13, 2020 1:43 AM
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[quote] Word is that he wants to make it a streaming, subscription based venture.
Not gonna work. It would seriously cut into the monthly Mountain Dew and meth budget of his target demographic.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | November 13, 2020 1:47 AM
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Will they have Kimmy G. and Tiffy in naked mud-wrestling matches?
by Anonymous | reply 80 | November 13, 2020 1:51 AM
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I hope NY's AG keeps Trump busy in court, scrambling to find lawyers to stiff and maybe he won't have much time to start a new failing business!
by Anonymous | reply 81 | November 13, 2020 2:36 AM
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Starting a new cable network or media empire is going to cost money and after the last 4 years what bank is going to lend that fool any money?
by Anonymous | reply 82 | November 13, 2020 2:38 AM
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Trump's main communications these days are only tweets about conspiracy theories he's heard on conservative media. If that could be turned into a profitable business model, someone else would have done it by now. It's hardly something that only Trump could do.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | November 13, 2020 2:42 AM
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R81, you just reminded me of somebody I knew who was a professional con artist.
Their technique was to start a new business and run it into the ground. They would pick a type of business they knew nothing about, get money to start it, then in a year or two it would fail. Every time. Then they would start a completely different business in a different field. They were conning private marks to invest. This went on for years.
I guess that’s what Trump has been doing in a way. I don’t know if he’s doing it on purpose, or he’s really that stupid.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | November 13, 2020 2:46 AM
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As many upthread have commented, he’s not starting a cable company. Too much money needed and it’s a dying business model. He’ll do a streaming service, but he’d better not charge more than a dollar or so.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | November 13, 2020 2:47 AM
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Twitter provides an audience for VIP Trump. Without the presidential position Trump may very well be cut off from that social media audience, and then he will struggle the same way Milo Y. struggles to find an audience. Even a social media start up (like Parler) needs people who know what they are doing, otherwise they will implode and lose money by not getting advertisers (businesses being put off by the social media platform's overall image & reputation, for example).
And Trump will not like it when the mainstream media will treat him like a common freak who mutters incoherently and nobody comes to his defense since they are looking for a new Trump-like figurehead.
Come to think of it. Trump realizing that the media is done with him, and they throw him out like yesterday's trash will be glorious.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | November 13, 2020 2:53 AM
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All streaming services spend much more money than they make these days. Someone will have to pay Trump millions to start up and maintain a streaming service for years. He doesn't that kind of money now.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | November 13, 2020 2:57 AM
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R85, Trump made a comment recently to women, saying everyone loved that he’d gotten jobs for their husbands. He was criticized because that sounded like something out of the 1950s.
Do you think he understands cable is over? Or do you think he wants to beat Fox out of revenge, by out-Foxing Fox? His eyes are bigger than his wallet most of the time. I’m not sure how much he understands the money isn’t there. He’s used to having a bottomless pit of other people’s money as President. That’s over, but I doubt he gets that yet.
I read a while back Trump was describing some politician as his “friend,” and I thought, does he really understand that guy is actually not his friend, and is going to drop him like a hot potato as soon as he’s out of office?
by Anonymous | reply 88 | November 13, 2020 3:19 AM
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The AZ Secretary of State is on CNN. She says they only have 16,000 votes left to count, and most of those are processed and ready to be counted. She thinks they’ll finish tomorrow.
Trump filed a case to try to block counting Maricopa county. 180,000-190,000 ballots are in dispute. She says it’s a waste of time because it won’t affect the election results. She sounds tired of Trump.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | November 13, 2020 3:34 AM
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What I don't honestly get ( and someone correct me if I'm wrong) is when Trump thinks he will have TIME to pursue all these new media ventures when he's out of office. Doesn't he have a whole host 9f legal and financial matters that are pretty much going to kick him in the ass, once he's no longer president? Besides the exorbitant loans he owes Deutsch Bank, aren't there pretty solid rumors about his money laundering to Russian *businessmen* that the Feds are on to? What aniut the cases the NYAG office are salivating to un-load on his ass? The lawsuit by Jean Caroll, not to mention the the young woman who was supposedly around 13 when Trump raped her? I bet she'll have more courage now to proceed again with her case. Last, if I remember well from the Pro-publica article about Trump Corporation's abysmal financial records, the IRS pretty much had them dead-to-rights for tax fraud. Since SCOTUS finally declared open-season on Trump's Personal financial/tax records, I'd hazard a guess Trump personal taxes are wide open to a similar action by the IRS. Truthfully, it will be a miracle if Trump can stay out of jail ( or not succumb to Polonium *tea*) within a year of leaving office.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | November 13, 2020 3:53 AM
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The MAGAts were chanting "Fox News Sucks" at the Million Moron March today.
The TikTok kids hijacked the Twitter thread from the MAGAts and kept posting pictures of pancakes.
Thousands Gen Zs spent last week prank calling the Trump Election fraud hotline to claim, to just give one example, that they were "Bruce Wayne" and were calling to report that The Joker had stolen all the ballot boxes in Gotham City-- the Trump staffers would scream at them, but they had to close down the hotline.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | November 15, 2020 12:00 AM
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