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Hey Democrats, Let's Start Moving to Some Red States

It worked in Nevada. And now with Zoom and teleworking, there is no reason why you have to live on the coast or in one of the big cities. Would you do it? And which red state would you, at least, consider moving to...

by Anonymousreply 70November 12, 2020 6:03 PM

North Carolina (specifically Asheville).

by Anonymousreply 1November 11, 2020 12:14 AM

I can't move south because I can't bear the hideous way they speak.

by Anonymousreply 2November 11, 2020 12:27 AM

We should all move to Georgia this week and then vote in January.

by Anonymousreply 3November 11, 2020 12:38 AM

Wouldn't mind if we could take over a warm state. So sick of progressive but freezing being the option. And yeah, I know, California, but maybe not constantly on fire as the alternative either.

by Anonymousreply 4November 11, 2020 12:44 AM

Start with South Dakota, OP.

by Anonymousreply 5November 11, 2020 1:02 AM

Wyoming would turn Democrat fast.

by Anonymousreply 6November 11, 2020 1:06 AM

Hot men in Utah. Go west!

by Anonymousreply 7November 11, 2020 1:12 AM

Yeah, right. Like Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia, Indiana? Sheee-it. You gonna give me a hardship allowance?

Now, if you send me to North or South Carolina, I'm more than willing. Not a problem. I might even consider certain parts of Texas.

by Anonymousreply 8November 11, 2020 1:31 AM

r7 "Go west" doesn't really work for those of us in CA, NV, WA, HI, or OR.

by Anonymousreply 9November 11, 2020 1:31 AM

Sorry -- you first, OP.

by Anonymousreply 10November 11, 2020 1:32 AM

Yes, that I like r8. Charleston should be the next San Francisco, a warm San Francisco. For us eldergays who are fucking sick of winter, goddammit.

by Anonymousreply 11November 11, 2020 1:34 AM

[Quote] Sorry -- you first, OP.—Fifth Generation Californian; never leaving

Still living in your parents house?

by Anonymousreply 12November 11, 2020 1:41 AM

You live in Vegas, OP?

by Anonymousreply 13November 11, 2020 1:42 AM

r12 That would be difficult, since I'm 68 and they're both long gone. I don't even live in the same part of the state they're from (or where I grew up.)

by Anonymousreply 14November 11, 2020 1:42 AM

Florida byt only for that warm sea as I love swimming.

by Anonymousreply 15November 11, 2020 1:43 AM

The Dakotas and Wyoming are easiest to flip

by Anonymousreply 16November 11, 2020 1:43 AM

Red states are for the poors.

by Anonymousreply 17November 11, 2020 1:45 AM

I just watched a documentary on Netflix called "Hillbilly". JFC. Life is too short. My partner and I are in central NC. That's punishment enough.

by Anonymousreply 18November 11, 2020 1:45 AM

Native Californian moved to Nevada six years ago. Next state to turn permanently Blue - Arizona.

Liberals- pick a state with a lot of winnable electoral votes like Texas.

by Anonymousreply 19November 11, 2020 1:47 AM

Also, I will say the South for all its many, many problems has never embraced the Cult of Busyness that afflicts the Northeast and Midwest.

by Anonymousreply 20November 11, 2020 1:55 AM

Florida only needs a few more of us gays and it will turn blue.

by Anonymousreply 21November 11, 2020 1:59 AM

maybe, but crazy will always win in Florida. Why? Not sure, but mental illness just seems to hang over the whole state.

by Anonymousreply 22November 11, 2020 2:27 AM

Let's move to Boise and start dressing like dykes!

by Anonymousreply 23November 11, 2020 2:29 AM

Not me, I love Oregon. Plus it is next to Washington and California.

by Anonymousreply 24November 11, 2020 2:31 AM

Uhm...yeah. NO.

by Anonymousreply 25November 11, 2020 2:53 AM

Moved from PA to SC last year. I can walk to the beach and play tennis/golf outdoors all year long. Bought a bigger house, and cut my property taxes by 60%. Not as many deplorables as you would think, mainly because almost everyone in my area is a transplant.

by Anonymousreply 26November 11, 2020 3:12 AM

Nah - life is too short to live in a red state.

R26 - well I guess you have your priorities straight. One year isn't much time - and just wait...you'll see.

by Anonymousreply 27November 11, 2020 3:14 AM

R27, I grew up in Georgia, and I lived in Texas for 7 years. Trust me, there's nothing I haven't seen.

by Anonymousreply 28November 11, 2020 3:25 AM

There is a lot to be said for living near an ocean.

by Anonymousreply 29November 11, 2020 4:36 AM

A lot of these red states have wonderful blue areas for you to consider.

by Anonymousreply 30November 11, 2020 12:46 PM

You, too, could be Florida Man!

by Anonymousreply 31November 11, 2020 12:48 PM

"I can't move south because I can't bear the hideous way they speak."

Florida - from Orlando on down - it's ok.

We also need to prop the Midwest - especially Pennsylvania but Wisconsin too.

by Anonymousreply 32November 11, 2020 12:51 PM

R26, where do you live...I'm comin ta visit!

by Anonymousreply 33November 11, 2020 12:58 PM

OP, now that Nevada is blue, you need to move to Utah.

by Anonymousreply 34November 11, 2020 1:00 PM

A friend just moved from New Hampshire to Indiana to be near his mom, so there is that

by Anonymousreply 35November 11, 2020 1:21 PM

[quote]The Dakotas and Wyoming are easiest to flip

what would it take?

one sitting at a popular brunch place in Brooklyn relocating there and the state would immediately turn blue

by Anonymousreply 36November 11, 2020 1:23 PM

Closest states (number = percentage ahead):

Biden ahead: AZ 0.3; GA 0.3; PA 0.7; WI 0.7; MI 2.7; NV 2.7; MN 7.2; NH 7.2

Trump: NC 1.4; FL 3.3; TX 5.8; OH 7.8

by Anonymousreply 37November 11, 2020 1:24 PM

Texas has been so badly gerrymandered that Austin - reliably 75+ percent blue - has six Congressional districts, five of which are red.

by Anonymousreply 38November 11, 2020 1:24 PM

Republicans can take control of the House in 2022 on redistricting alone tbh

by Anonymousreply 39November 11, 2020 3:41 PM

The biggest election tragedy of 2020 is that most state legislatures remain red, and gerrymandering this decade will be even worse

by Anonymousreply 40November 11, 2020 3:42 PM

Hilton Head Island, R33. Come on down, the weather is great and cost of living is low.

by Anonymousreply 41November 11, 2020 3:43 PM

[quote] A lot of these red states have wonderful blue areas for you to consider.

They're not oceans.

by Anonymousreply 42November 11, 2020 6:24 PM

^I guess you can count the Gulf

by Anonymousreply 43November 11, 2020 6:25 PM

Currently live in the cesspool of red that is Missouri and would be willing to move to Florida for its coastline. Once the influence of the Castro Cubans in south Forida ebbs, is there a chance Florida could turn blue?

by Anonymousreply 44November 11, 2020 6:34 PM

And be surrounded by deplorables? I think not.

by Anonymousreply 45November 11, 2020 6:45 PM

I just checked TX results and Travis County (includes Austin but has a large rural surrounding area):

Biden 72% Trump 21%

Green and Libertarian, etc. the rest%

by Anonymousreply 46November 11, 2020 6:45 PM

Mistake: Trump got 26% in Travis County. Barf.

by Anonymousreply 47November 11, 2020 6:47 PM

It’s harder to convert large population states like Florida, Texas, and North Carolina. It’s easier to change tiny population states such as Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, and the Dakotas

by Anonymousreply 48November 11, 2020 6:53 PM

Florida’s turn to the right is a horrible development for Democrats. The Democratic Party apparatus there needs to be extinguished and a new Party created

by Anonymousreply 49November 11, 2020 7:04 PM

that sounds foolish

by Anonymousreply 50November 11, 2020 7:06 PM

You don't have to live there year round. Wyoming (for example) is perfectly nice in the summer, a lot better than Arizona or Texas or the Deep South in the summer, and you could have your voter registration there but live the rest of the year wherever you're from.

(This is assuming you're self-employed or work remotely or something.)

by Anonymousreply 51November 11, 2020 7:12 PM

R51, This is absolutely the case for my area (coastal SC). More than half of my neighbors only live here part time. In the heat of the summer, they are all back in Michigan, New York, New Jersey, PA, Ohio, etc.

by Anonymousreply 52November 11, 2020 7:19 PM

I’m in NC currently and dismayed that Trump won the state/Tillis was re-elected. That being said, it feels good knowing my vote actually counts for something here, having previously only lived in very red or blue states. My wife is ready to move back to a more liberal place, but I’d much rather stay in this part of the country. Yeah, we’re surrounded by a lot of stupid people, but I’ll take them over months of snow/freezing temps and an unreasonably high cost of living.

Personally, I vote that we all lay claim to SC. Charleston has great architecture, beautiful scenery, and a fantastic culinary scene; it would be a shame to let that place stay under conservative control forever.

by Anonymousreply 53November 11, 2020 7:29 PM

SC is harder to turn than NC

by Anonymousreply 54November 11, 2020 7:44 PM

The narrow election of Biden and the resounding one of Sen. Mark Kelly here in Arizona made me change my plans to move to NM for the time being. I'll likely relocate out of Dr. Paul Gosar's R66% congressional district, though (where it's chock-a-block with truly deranged far-right weirdos.)

Preferred D areas are Maricopa, PIma and Coconino Counties. Plus, surprisingly, the mixed-bag Mormon/Navajo Apache County, which went 66% Biden.

by Anonymousreply 55November 11, 2020 7:55 PM

This is something that people really do need to consider. There are several advantages.

It’s cheaper in the western states. MUCH MUCH cheaper.

If you are permanently telecommuting it doesn’t matter where you live, and in fact depending on your job may even be preferable to be centrally located.

There are gay people living in these states but they are often isolated and discriminated against. Our being there with substantial resources could really make a difference.

The obvious one: our votes and financial resources could help flip the state.

Some level of coordination wouldn’t hurt. Like figuring out which state would be easiest to flip. At first blush, a state like Wyoming seems ideal, because of its tiny population, but it’s SO Red, we would need to almost DOUBLE its population to flip it!

by Anonymousreply 56November 11, 2020 8:03 PM

Yes, I am staying put in Arizona too being my vote matters here. When i lived in California it never mattered except for local election. Too bad I am stuck with Debie Lesko.

by Anonymousreply 57November 11, 2020 8:03 PM

Shit, now that they changed the damn flag, we should turn Biloxi into Fire Island.....

by Anonymousreply 58November 11, 2020 8:06 PM

I am already living in a Red State, come on guys we need more of you.

by Anonymousreply 59November 11, 2020 8:07 PM

Seriously tho, you all know the Blue states just have better quality of life. I've said this to my lawyer friend once after 2016 and she retorted that all the media pundits should be forced to relocate to the red states and help them turn blue since they pump that narrative so much and get it wrong. Gave me a good laugh.

Another vote for Charleston, I was serious about Biloxi. Heard good things about Houston, Dallas, Austin, etc....New Orleans if we could control state government from the city....

by Anonymousreply 60November 11, 2020 8:08 PM

59, which one are you in? Are you hung?

by Anonymousreply 61November 11, 2020 8:09 PM

[quote]I am already living in a Red State, come on guys we need more of you.

Misery loves company?

by Anonymousreply 62November 11, 2020 8:25 PM

[quote]Personally, I vote that we all lay claim to SC. Charleston has great architecture, beautiful scenery, and a fantastic culinary scene

I think actually Greenville is the launching point for turning SC blue - it's supposedly turned into some kind of hip location.

by Anonymousreply 63November 11, 2020 8:28 PM

We should at the very least take over Mediapolis, Iowa.

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by Anonymousreply 64November 11, 2020 8:29 PM

Pockets of Montana are nice. I could maybe consider Bozeman.

by Anonymousreply 65November 11, 2020 8:31 PM

Bozeman is rapidly being taken over by rich Californians (who all the locals hate), so prices are skyrocketing.

The thing about the South or the Midwest is that you can buy amazing beautiful old houses for what seems like nothing (if you're from the coasts).

by Anonymousreply 66November 11, 2020 8:42 PM

Los Angeles and New York City are the only real cities gay should move to. ( posting from 1992 )

by Anonymousreply 67November 11, 2020 8:59 PM

Bozeman gets way too cold in the winter. Missoula is considered the garden city of Montana. You want west of the Rockies - not east.

by Anonymousreply 68November 12, 2020 12:35 AM

Love Missoula - university town - has a crunchy granola feel.

by Anonymousreply 69November 12, 2020 10:04 AM

I live Helena, Montana. Liberal. Lots of Democrats.

by Anonymousreply 70November 12, 2020 6:03 PM
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