ELECTION 2020 PART 21

Asha Rangappa @AshaRangappa_

[quote] If you aren't already, please follow @ruthbenghiat. She is an expert in authoritarianism and will be a guide in the next two months as things go off the rails. (You can also see her in @PBS's "The Dictator's Playbook, which is basically a must-see right now)

[quote] Today’s Transition reflection. On “end-stage follies”: things Trump is doing (like firing Esper) to make himself in control.

Dave Wasserman on PA:

New: Biden wins Beaver Co., PA's provisionals 258 to 164, even though Trump won the county overall 58%-41%. Not clear provisionals will cut into Biden's statewide margin at all; if I had to bet they'll pad Biden's margin quite a bit.

We are in the kiddie of an authoritarian takeover. I really don’t see Biden being sworn into office on the 20th. The gop is doing everything in their power to prevent it.

It was posted in the last thread but worth posting again: David Bossie, Trump's pick to lead his post-election battles, has tested positive for the coronavirus.

Yes, they can have Trump crowned Emperor in their own ceremony at Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

This is all bullshit from the gop. Dangerous, but bullshit. They know Biden will be the next president. They’re soothing Trump’s ego and trying keep their base riled up for Georgia

Here’s little Marco saying the gsa should allow Biden to begin the transition

The chamber of commerce -who the Rs care about- have said enough is enough

A YouTube Video from a year ago came up on my feed about Trump needing to win in 2020 so that the statute of limitations would run out on his election finance fuckery with Michael Cohen. There's a 5-year statute of limitations on campaign finance crimes that would have saved him if he'd been re-elected in 2020, as they won't indict sitting presidents. They should, but the current polarized Senate won't.

This isn't just about grifting his followers. Trump is seriously terrified--has been terrified for months--that he WILL be indicted in January if he can't find a way to win this election. For the first time possibly ever, cold hard reality is intruding on his fragile pink bubble of fantasy. He's finally gotten himself into a situation he can't bribe or bluster his way out of.

As January comes closer and closer, he's going to become more and more combative and crazy. After it becomes clear that the election is a done deal and even the most hardcore Republicans won't back him, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Trump had a stress-induced stroke. THAT would be exactly what he deserves, to sit drooling in a wheelchair like Joe Kennedy.

And on that note R7, this is why we are in danger right now. Everything that is happening is a delicate and fragile scenario that can easily spiral out of control. Please, for the rest of your days, vote only blue. Never, ever ever forget what they are doing right now. We have never been closer to an all-out disaster than the Civil War and Civil Rights. Be aware, be smart, and take care of yourselves. Until we get Joe to Inauguration, literally anything, and I do mean anything, can happen.

R6 boy does Rubio kkow how to answer “like a politician.”

He will alerted to what AG James has in store and flee in the night.

I have zero expectations to see him at the inaugural in 2021.

And btw, next year a Trump Crimes Commission MUST be created.

Some of you might think it is needlessly inflammatory inn the current climate but it is absolutely necessary.

Nothing is gonna come out of Trump’s efforts to reclaim the presidency unless the GOP wants another civil war. They don’t. They just want to fill their pockets and live good lives while the common people starve and live in dirt.

The only danger I see is that some crazy Trumper goes on a shooting spree, because many of his followers are mentally unstable.

R11, I could not agree with you more. They *must* be held accountable!!!!!

Republicans Beg Liberals To Be Nice To Them After Trump's Loss

Now they’re suing PA to be excluded from the electoral college

They’re trying anything and everything

This is terrifying. The SC will appoint Trump as dictator for life

I used to think they should just let Trump go if he would shut up, but it's clear now that our constitution means nothing to him, the dignities of the office mean nothing to him, the traditions of government mean nothing to him. He's an evil, destructive man who would destroy everything in one of his narcissistic rages.

They need to indict his ass on January 20th, lock him in prison and throw away the key. Until then, everyone take care of yourselves. I agree that this situation is becoming more fragile by the moment. The firing of the Secretary of Defense, the one who WOULDN'T deploy troops against American citizens, is scary as hell.

R15 MARY!

R15, is there a link for that? Really?

R15, cite your source or get out.

Biden did it. Dems did it. They had record turnout and so did we. We gained in the Senate but lost 5 House seats. A decisive victory for Dems.

Here’s the lawsuit

They haven't one lawsuit so far. This is going to be LAUGHED out of court.

Their goal is to appeal it up to the Supreme Court

How many lawsuits have they lost?

[quote] Their goal is to appeal it up to the Supreme Court

Which is why Bullshit Barbie was ranting about the Democrat leaning PA Supreme Court two hours ago.

The Supreme Court isn't going to save them. Even the most partisan of judges needs *something* to work with and, right now, the Trump campaign hasn't been able to find a damn thing. Basically, their whole argument is, "Take away Biden's votes because we don't like the outcome of the election." That isn't going to work.

Go take a xanax, r15.

[quote] Donald Trump 'terminates' Pentagon Secretary Mark Esper by tweet - and he lashes back that he wasn't a 'yes man' and that he would have resigned if White House had tried revenge on impeachment witness Vindman

From the Daily Mail. Rearranging furniture on the Titanic!

We will not be out of the woods until we have a sworn in Biden and a NEW Attorney General.

The absolutely first thing Biden should do is fire Barr.

Barr just weighed in. He’s going to pursue election irregularities.

r7, if they wrap the whole thing up in racketeering charges, he can still be prosecuted for crimes for which the statutes of limitations have expired. That's how SDNY got the NXIVM cult leader.

[quote] Barr just [italic]]weighed [/italic] in.

I saw what you did there

r30, did he mention prosecuting unicorns?

The DOJ getting involved in an election is very, very scary.

What did you all expect McTurtle to do?

He wants to remain as leader and to do so he needs to make sure that no Trumpists start to primary his people, like the Tea Party did

So make some noise about Trump needed to mount legal challenges

Because The Shelled One knows that they will fail.

Barr needs to be prosecuted in 2021.

Let's make some D R A M A ! ! !

r29

McTurtle wants Dump gone. Because then he'll be top of the shit heap.

Excellent work, Mate.

Cue concerned trolls on Barr's involvement. It's 45 trying to lend "legitimacy" to alleged voting fraud, in which nothing concrete has been proven. Anything that will be impede Biden's taking office will be met with an insurrection dwarfing BLM protests

Those Republican thugs haven't seen ANYTHING if they try to steal this election. They'll look back on the calm days of BLM with fond regret.

R41, you’re foolish if you aren’t concerned. Your type of unbothered dimwittery is why we didn’t win the Senate and lost House seats

However—despite all of Trump's rhetoric—polls found most Republicans seemed to not take Trump literally and said they trusted the electoral system. But post Nov. 3, there's been a big shift among GOP voters and only ~1/3 trust the election system now.

Kornacki is pointing out how close 3 states were and saying those 3 would have made Trump win. AZ, GA & WI. That’s where Trump will be concentrating his efforts. He’d have to overturn all 3 though.

No he still loses without PA

Handmaiden and Beer Pong are there to drag the country back into the 14th century. They are not going to risk a civil war and losing ALL their power just to please Trump.

white women may have been convinced by the summer of unrest in Portland and other cities and the right wing "jobs not mobs" commercials... and yes, the "defund the police" slogan.

R45 No. He didn’t say that. He can’t win without PA and he maxed out his votes there.

the white female Evangelical vote is huge. No matter how I tried, I could not convince those I knew that Trump was a worse candidate. They were, in most cases, one-issue voters. Abortion. Even though I proved that abortion numbers go down in Democrat administrations, and that Trump's morals probably added to the # of abortions, it didn't matter. He had a big fat "R" after his name so he was the choice.

R50 No, they don’t vote due to abortion. They hide behind that to vote for AWFUL people and AWFUL policies. I am DONE with people using abortion to hide behind.

I know of countless people who vote solely based on abortion, and it’s the one issue they talk most about and give money to its causes. A lot of people truly do believe it’s murdering babies , and they vote based on it

C A L M

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H O M O S E X U A L S

In 2000 there were a few hundred votes in a single county in Florida

Biden is ahead by tens of thousands of votes in PA and thousands in the other states.

They are not going to find almost 100,000 irregularities

It's theater. (Just like taking your temperature for COVID or taking your shoes off in the airport is theater)

I know, the panic is already getting tedious.

r43 You do you, i do me. Do what you have to do to allay your concerns. i think this is going to be (another) nothing burger. As far as your 2nd statement, it's non-sensical

well, those people may soon have to put everything on the table r52. If Roe v Wade is actually overturned, every state race becomes a referendum on abortion policy, and a very specific referendum: Is abortion ever allowed, under any circumstances, and if you are pro-life, why any exceptions? Does the woman go to jail, or just the doctor? If just the doctor, why? Everything will be very bitter, very angry, but worst for the pro-life types, very specific. They have actually been coasting on a vague, let's save fetuses message for decades. When people start spelling out the actual implications of what happens when abortion is outlawed, how will they fare?

[quote] Based on my convos with Rs over wknd, most everything McConnell does from here on isn't about January 20th (inauguration day & working with Biden) but January 5th (the Georgia run-off elections). To win the latter, Rs believe the base must be stoked, esp in a fast-changing state.

What’s up with Alaska? 58% of the vote is in. Is Sarah Palin counting votes now?

[quote]Barr just weighed in. He’s going to pursue election irregularities.

At least we can trust him to be impartial.

[quote]No. He didn’t say that. He can’t win without PA and he maxed out his votes there.

Which is why he's suing to have Pennsylvania's electoral votes excluded from the total.

Don Winslow @donwinslow

Got advance word from a source at @FoxNews that Hannity tonight will be full and complete insanity, far beyond his normal insanity.

Not worried about Barr. He’ll give the go ahead, but probably doesn’t even expect to find anything.

It’s the folks who identify as Democrats, liberals, progressives etc, who almost burned this country down over the summer when this administration showed their contempt for basic human rights. If they’re smart, they won’t be too quick try to fuck us over again.

Interesting that no one is curious about how Trump, who in the past four years never even moved the needle on his base, found another 8 million votes?

[quote]Barr needs to be prosecuted in 2021.

Or at least disBARRed.

[quote]Got advance word from a source at @FoxNews that Hannity tonight will be full and complete insanity, far beyond his normal insanity.

And that's a very high bar indeed.

[quote] What’s up with Alaska? 58% of the vote is in. Is Sarah Palin counting votes now?

People don't mention this, but we're actually still waiting on total results in California. I see where in some counties, they're not even in the 70 percentile range yet. One really close race is the 25th district for the House of Representatives where we're trying to oust Trump Rethug Mike Garcia. That's the seat where first-time Democratic congresswoman, Katie Hill, had to resign over a sex scandal. Let me tell you - that was so painful, because the seat had been red for so long, and it was quite the local victory. Unfortunately, Garcia won in a special election earlier this year. Yeah - they held a special election during lockdown for a seat that would last nine months.

It's neck and neck, back and forth between Garcia and Democrat Christy Smith. She only took the lead again a few hours ago. 50.2% to 49.8% (Right now 87% of the vote is in.)

[quote] Joke all you want, but Rudy's prepared to fight this all the way to the Supreme Courtyard by Marriott

And there are two seats on OC that were flipped last time that look like they might go back to being red.

A L S O

This is Rudy's last stand.

He's old and if Trump loses, he's got not job and no relevance. He's 76, so he'll be 80 by the next election if he's still alive.

Trump things Rudy is a legal genius and Rudy's keeping this going to keep himself going and in the limelight.

To quote Faulkner, quoting Shakespeare "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Something made soft Republicans revert to vote red, except possibly for Trump. Also, perhaps some Independents trended Republican in the last few weeks. Trump’s approval ratings started to increase in mid October and ended up near his highest of his administration

Deborah Birx has not been approached by team Biden

Time for this worn-out thread to DIE ALREADY!!

Birx is complicit along with everyone else. She sat there and said nothing when drump said people should put bleach and their bodies.

Yes, time to move on I guess or should we wait until they call Arizona?

That federal lawsuit in PA to stop certification seems purely designed to lose and then appeal to the US Supreme Court. This kind of action to directly overturn fair and free elections is only happening because of Trump and his sick allies.

We're honestly getting to a point where the GOP can't be allowed to ever get its hands on the levers of power because they can't be trusted to ever surrender them. The party is thoroughly authoritarian.

I guess today’s lesson is that Mitch gonna Mitch and Barr gonna Barr. The question is there anything left of our democracy when they’re done.

But almost half of the country wants authoritarianism as long as they are in power

R75 Totally agree. There isn’t a fucking sane one among them. None.

This election is not over. Many races have not been called and we have run-offs in GA Sen.

Pence is attending the senate gop lunch tomorrow. They’re colluding together. They’re stealing this thing

[quote] Deborah Birx has not been approached by team Biden

Good! Enabling bitch.

Today was quite bad. Georgia GOP senators attacking the sec of state (a Republican) basically for administering an election that Dems won. Republicans AG’s across the country trying to get votes tossed out in Penn. Pa GOP legislators calling for an audit of the results.

@perrybaconjr Oh, you didn't even get to the good part yet:

Trump found some ambulance-chasers to agree to file a motion to disenfranchise ALL OF PENNSYLVANIA. And Billy Barr went and canoodled with Moscow Mitch just a bit ago too.

Democrats need to wake up! We need a backbone and vigilance

As he contests the election, Trump has largely stopped governing:

His public schedule hasn’t included an intelligence briefing since Oct. 1

No foreign lead call readout in weeks

No statement on Tropical Storm Eta

No COVID task force meeting in months

... do we really want him governing?

This is what happened after 2016, when Trump made stuff up with specific relentlessness about his loss in New Hampshire, paving the way for the GOP state government to change voting rules:

Armenia may have just murdered their Speaker of Parliament for signing a withdrawal from Azerbaijan

. They want their people to feel like this too was stolen from them. Jr or ivanka will take over in 2024 claiming their father was robbed.

Krystal Ball: 2020 is a humiliating failure for dem leadership but all they ever know how to do is blame the left. Well done piece from @cenkuygur

Australia newspaper: America. Great again.

Most Republican politicians are making it pretty clear right now that they haven’t been afraid Trump this whole time - they’re just like him.

[quote]Pence is attending the senate gop lunch tomorrow. They’re colluding together. They’re stealing this thing

I initially read this as "they're CUDDLING together." Which is probably what Mike would prefer, actually.

One of the biggest surprises of the 2020 election was Zapata County, TX. Trump became the first R pres. nominee since 1920 to carry this 94% Hispanic county. He got 2,032 votes there, double his 1,029 in 2016. Not a huge county, but Zapata was emblematic of his gains in the RGV.

[quote]Krystal Ball: 2020 is a humiliating failure for dem leadership but all they ever know how to do is blame the left. Well done piece from @cenkuygur

BWAHAHAHAHA!!

Quoting two major asswipes in one post! Only Krystal and Cenk call Biden's win a "humiliating failure"! Remember, Cenk won a stunning 4% of votes in his House primary in California! Please avoid these two losers like scabies!

“Are we 100% certain this doesn’t soften the ground enough so that what seems almost unthinkable becomes thinkable? Are we 100% certain the state legislature in, say, Georgia, won’t start considering things that now seem outside the realm of the possible?”

Trump tomorrow: “THE PRESIDENT has no public events scheduled.”

Thanks to trump and McConnell, it looks like the Civil War is back on.

Any ballot count updates?

🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨

ANOTHER BIG REPORT FROM GEORGIA!

Biden's lead in Georgia grows to 12,338.

R89 Humiliating when we held the House and GAINED in the Senate plus who the Presidency by a huge popular and electoral college margin? Yeah, both of them suck.

Krystal ball is a deranged Berner

@breaking_et Hope democrats across this country learned just how important turnout is if it wasn't for some Republicans voting for biden we would have lost. Dont get me wrong I know turnout was historic high but still 35% of the voting population stayed home. We can always do better.

[quote] Interesting that no one is curious about how Trump, who in the past four years never even moved the needle on his base, found another 8 million votes?

This. 8 million times this.

Alaska is only half-finished counting.

I just don’t know what more Democrats can do to get their base to vote. We have an unprecedented autocrat in the White House and people have to be prodded to vote?

I think he got more of his base to vote. 2016 was not a high turnout election, but Republicans still beat Democrats in turn out in swing states. Trump and Republicans since 2015 have been aware that a significant number of rural and noncollege white people were not registered or regular voters. They decided to try to appeal mainly to them To activate them into a reliable political force. Democrats should have realized he was largely succeeding when record high early turnout was reported in deep red states such as Tennessee.

And let's be real homosexuals:

If you're a Trumpist, you remember all those #NotMyPresident bumper stickers.

You remember Hillary and her minions claiming she only lost because Putin interfered with the election.

Or Comey.

That Trump wasn't the legitimate president.

So you're probably feeling that "The Dems" weren't the least bit gracious when your guy won so why should you treat their victory any differently?

(Nazis have feelings too.)

But seriously, for many of them, it's just giving it to "the Dems" the same way many Democrats gave it to Trump.

And they see all the Democrats who will go to their graves believing Putin stole the 2016 election for Trump as no different than all the Trumpists who will go to their grave believing the 2020 election was stolen by,... someone.

Point being, we should not be surprised that they need time to vent.

R53, Yes, Faulkner got his title here, but you are quoting Shakespeare ("Macbeth") 100%.

It’s starting to unravel. I’m terrified

7pm Arizona ballot drop

12 News/KPNX reports:

Biden lead only dips by 140.

MIAMI — From the time President Donald Trump took office, he focused on the Latino vote in Florida, and according to figures coming out of the state, it paid off on Election Day, especially in Miami-Dade County, the most populous in the state.

Around 55 percent of Florida's Cuban-American vote went to Trump, according to NBC News exit polls, while 30 percent of Puerto Ricans and 48 percent of "other Latinos" backed Trump. Trump won the coveted battleground state with its 29 electoral votes.

Trump drastically improved his support in Miami-Dade County, going from 333,999 votes in 2016 to at least 529,16 votes this year. Biden, however, wasn’t able to grow Democratic support in the county. Clinton got 624,146 votes there in 2016 and with 95 percent of the vote tallied, Biden had 613,086.

Trump's popularity also seems to have affected down-ballot races, with two House Democrats from South Florida losing in early ballot returns to Republican challengers:Rep. Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, the first South American-born member of Congress, was trailing Carlos Gimenez, the Miami-Dade County mayor, and Rep. Donna Shalala was trailing TV host and commentator Maria Elvira Salazar.

Yes, and this is why the Republicans want to keep Trump happy despite being a fat ugly pig. He drives out new crazy voters for their party. The R really believe now (Like a cult) that they will never get the WH again if they don’t take it back. It’s also why people around the globe pray for Trump to die.

Did you think I was not aware of that R108? I don't have the full quote committed to memory, lol

8 Million "silent" Trump voters? Bullshit. I'd imagine the GOP isn't really that eager for Trump to stir the pot and uncover the origin of these 8 Million votes that magically favor the Republicans. Because that's what is going to happen if Trump insists on investigating voter fraud.

[quote]Point being, we should not be surprised that they need time to vent.

They're not "venting." They're trying to overturn a legal election and undermine the very essence of democracy.

But thanks for playing. Always helpful to get an idiot's perspective.

I found 100 Trump ballots in my ass. The conspiracy is true!!!

Looking at the numbers remaining for Arizona, Trump would need about 73% of the remaining votes to win there.

Georgia Voting System Chief: 'We Are Going to Find that People Did Illegally Vote,' but 'Unlikely' to Change Election Results

Banners on Tucker Carlson's show tonight:

"MEDIA DEMAND WE ACCEPT BIDEN AS OUR PRESIDENT"

"LEFT STILL SOWING DIVISION AFTER ELECTION RESULTS"

"ELITES CONTINUE TO BERATE THOSE BENEATH THEM"

"SILICON VALLEY HAS BEEN PROTECTING JOE BIDEN"

Alaska is going to take like another week; irrelevant in any case.

When all is said and done, more than 158 million people will have voted this election, according to the U.S. Elections Project, a turnout rate of more than 66%.

That would be the highest since 1900.

I don't know what the key is to getting more democrats to the polls. But we clearly have some kind of an emerging Hispanic problem. Hispanics were supposed to be the saviors that were going to turn certain states blue, but instead we've learned that the Pope has a bigger grip on them than their own personal well being. If they're voting for the guy who called them rapists and murderers to their faces, then we can't count on them. Unless you all know of some charismatic Democratic Hispanics in the presidential pipeline.

Only 34% go republicans have faith in elections now. Good! Maybe they won’t bother to vote anymore. This may come back to bite the GOP

[quote]"ELITES CONTINUE TO BERATE THOSE BENEATH THEM"

Hey, at least they admit they're inferior.

A historian at New York University said this is the first time in American history a defeated president has refused to recognize the outcome of an election. "Trump’s petulance is hurting the country." @EliStokols @ChrisMegerian

R113, But you DID write exactly what Shakespeare did. So my point was, no need to mention the "sampler," as it were!

It's like saying, "To quote the Byrds, quoting Ecclesiastes, 'To everything there is a season'. " No! I'm simply quoting the Bible!

R122, and many Have been warning that Latinos are not the certain voting block that some claimed they were. Likewise, many warned that black men and young blacks are increasingly defecting from Democrats.

[quote] Only 34% go republicans have faith in elections now. Good! Maybe they won’t bother to vote anymore.

LOL. My feelings exactly!

You're right, Repugnantcans -- the electoral process is all a fraud. Why bother showing up anymore? Just stay home and don't vote!

Is MSNBC covering the Trump coup attempts or are they still focused on jubilation?

Twitter is in panic mode

Here’s the most important things we learned from 2020 election:

1) universality of communication is a big reason for why polling is not as predictive as it was.

2) irregular voters are no longer asymmetric. Just as we weren’t able to turn out our irregular voters in 2016 /

it is an open question as to whether the irregular voters who turned out for Trump were a one off thing based on Trump’s celebrity or whether they’re dedicated to the GOP.

3) whether the irregular voters were a function of Trump’s turnout machine or whether the ease of VBM /2

in this election may go a long way to determining whether they stay engaged in the process.

4) the GOP may have huge Trump problem. Or there may be a lot more culture warriors than have shown up in high quality polling.

5) the rural/urban (suburban) gap is real and getting /3

to be a chasm.

6) for polling to be relevant in the middle third of the 21st Century, we’re going to have to find new methods of reaching people. This isn’t to say there weren’t high quality polls, but either voter screens have to change, or we have to find ways to reach /4

low propensity/irregular voters, or come up with better ways of scraping the voter files to predict and score voters and determine how they’re voting,

Toure: I think “some” of those people who claim to be one issue voters are hiding behind those issues. Nothing else moved them? The overt racism? The obvious incompetence? The failure to contain Covid? Nothing made them say, wait a minute, I can’t roll with this guy.

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, responds to Sens. Perdue and Loeffler: "Let me start by saying that is not going to happen. The voters of Georgia hired me, and the voters will be the one to fire me."

California still has upwards of 600,000 ballots to count.

How's Trump doing in California? Any chance he can get those 55 electoral votes?

[quote]Trump would need about 73% of the remaining votes

Correction, he'll need about 62%.

If we saw the head of the ruling regime, and his party, react to the election results this way in any other country, we'd know exactly what we are looking at.

And I'd say here, too, it's time to be honest and say we know exactly what we are looking at.

Fox news right now is saying that Pfizer released the news today about a vaccine to get back at Orange because nobody has been tougher on Big Pharma than Orange and Orange did more for drug pricing than anyone ever and so of course they're trying to hurt him now!

It’s their right

Twitter is really freaking me the fuck out. It really sounds like they’re actually going to succeed.

Payback is a bitch. Murdoch will also cut Trump off at the knees.

They won’t succeed. They have to prove widespread voter fraud and there has been no evidence of that. Privately, Trump knows he lost.

You don’t think Barr can fabricate evidence?

I honestly think it’s going to come down to them physically escorting him out.

They can make up evidence. They only need 5 SCOTUS votes to throw it

Watch one state Trump lost decide to give them their electoral votes as states don’t have to go along with the majority of their electorate.

Remember the pressure that was put on Hillary even PRIOR to the election that if she were to lose she would have to concede graciously? They demanded she say she would even before election day. And that came from these motherfuckers egging Orange to keep goiing.

How the fuck would California vote Republican?

r147, are you really that surprised?

I think a lot of Biden voters were moderate Republicans. They voted down ballot for Republicans, but wanted to get rid of Trump because he was too crazy for them. That’s why we didn’t get as many Senate votes as Biden votes.

We’re going to have a problem, as early as the next election, with black and Latino “Macho Man” voters that want a dictator that cheats on his wife. These guys come from cultures where if a man is strong, he has babies all over the place and is always going on to the next younger woman. They admire that. Trump fit that vote. But guys like that are loose cannons.

The women of these same ethnicities do not like that. They want a stable, family man, fatherly character like Obama or Biden. That’s because these are patriarchal cultures in a lot of ways, they’re religious and men identify with “alpha males.” The Democrats are going to have to get the women out, but at the same time, in those cultures, the men don’t want to vote for a woman candidate. They want somebody with big dick energy in that role. The women are aware they’re doing the heavy lifting and they want to pick the candidates. It’s going to split the party voters.

We have to find more base. We can’t rely on Latinos who often stay home or are blatantly Republican. We can’t rely on the “alpha male” vote. I think theRepublicans got them. The Native American community showed they were an untapped power. Up to 95%+ of some tribes voted Biden in Arizona. They put Arizona in play. We need to go after them, they vote like a bloc. They hated Trump.

The other group we have to get back are disenfranchised poor. We have to get those people some money. We aren’t going to get Republican votes next time, if they run a Marco Rubio. We’ll probably lose a lot of Latino votes too.

Even Trump's law firms are starting to get cold feet in pursuing his nonsense.

Girls, girls, they cannot makeup evidence of widespread voter fraud. Even if they did it would be tossed out of court.

Twitter was trending the name of Trump’s law firm. Law firms hate being identified with controversial cases. Only the ambulance chasers like that. Most reputable firms dread it. Too much chance for boycotts.

Even Trump's law firms are starting to get cold feet on his claims.

R149, I don't recall expressing any surprise.

Trump has little mushroom dick energy.

Why are so many gay men traumatized into constantly imagining the worst possible outcome.

[quote]How the fuck would California vote Republican?

They have before.

Rr150 Most of what you said is not true in any measurable way, except what you said about tribes.

Chill the fuck out, people. These are the temper tantrums of a dying regime. The Supreme Court is not going to decide for Trump, if it even goes that far. It will be a 9 to 0 decision. There is no ambiguity in this election. Biden won, and not by a little.

Full stop.

And keep that Krystal Ball cunt out of his thread. She's been harping on Biden since he got the nomination, and she probably voted for the Greens.

Agreed-this election won’t be stolen. Biden won by too much. However, what’s terrifying, is that if it was closer they could definitely have pulled it off.

But this isn’t over. There will be more shit. They will try long shot legal cases. Let’s just all hope some rouge activist judge doesn’t give them a big win.

DLers love to believe the sky is falling

I’m not sleeping well until Biden is sworn in. There’s some shit going on and they’re attempting a coup. We should all be petrified.

Temper tantrums of a dying, senile self-styled "Emperor."

Let them drink the COVID-19 flavored Kool-Aid one last time if they wish.

[quote] Hispanics were supposed to be the saviors that were going to turn certain states blue

Not only have Hispanics flipped states but also state governments.

R163 the sky IS falling. We’re in the middle of a coup

We are fine. Yes, they’ll try and it’ll get ugly but they’ll fail. I’m just looking forward to getting back to normal times when the Dems deliver, the economy comes back, they save us once again, the rich are taxed, the Dems get no credit, and the media pretends the last 4 years never happened, gives trumpism new life. Our groundhog hell since 1968.

I wish I was confident that they’ll fail but I’m not. They’re just so corrupt

R157 because we spent our formative years with a magnifying glass on our every wrist movement and worrying about getting our fucking head bashed-in for simply existing. You have to analyze worst-case scenarios daily.

Whew, twitter is a really grim place today. Some journalists are being a little dramatic I think, scaring liberals. I agree this situation is fucked up but I don’t see a successful coup in the making.

[quote]Whew, twitter is a really grim place today.

Another good reason to stay off Twitter.

The Mooch was just interviewed by Don Lemon - he firmly believes all these baseless lawsuit and legal efforts are a ruse to enable Repubs to continue to raise needed monies from their base, in order to cover their huge campaign debts. Apparently the RNC and Trump campaign are still sending out fundraising emails and letters at a rate equal or more than before the election - they are many millions in debt and desperate to raise cash.

He believes that after the GA runoffs on Jan 5th "the entire house of cards will immediately collapse". Much of what's going on relates that those final races as well.

The Trump campaign has been sending one email, every hour, on the hour to their email list.

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[quote]That would be the highest since 1900.

And some Dataloungers voted in that election, too!

(That William McKinley -- what a HUNK!)

R148 After FDR and Truman, California went through a long period of voting primarily Republican in the general election. I can still remember my grandpa telling how he and grandma were the only ones in their neighborhood who went for Adlai Stevenson. .. California went for Nixon over Kennedy. .. The state did go blue for LBJ, but most of the country didn't vote for Goldwater. .. But from Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and Daddy Bush's first run, it was red. .. From Clinton on, it's been blue, but it got scary again when Schwarzenegger was elected Governor, because it seemed like the whole California-Republican-Reagan-Is-God movement was gaining steam again.

R177 Then republicans do what they always do- fuck things up royally. They can’t govern.

[quote]One of the biggest surprises of the 2020 election was Zapata County, TX. Trump became the first R pres. nominee since 1920 to carry this 94% Hispanic county. He got 2,032 votes there, double his 1,029 in 2016. Not a huge county, but Zapata was emblematic of his gains in the RGV.

Stuff like this is what makes me believe that Russia flooded the in-person voting having no idea how many mail-ins were going to show up...and they went too far. I bet, in the next few months, we find that in some of these surprise Repug win areas there were more Repug votes than there are actual people in the area.

Also, I can't wait until they show that the polls were exactly right for mail-in votes but way, way off for the in-person voting on machines.

Social media should put pressure on corporations to demand Trump steps down, or face a boycott. And most of them will want him to do so - not necessarily out of politics, but because of what will happen to stock markets over the uncertainty, etc.

[quote] Not only have Hispanics flipped states but also state governments.

Many posts are a bit rather east coast-centric, probably because a majority of posters are from back east as well. Latino and Asian-Americans voters helped tilt Nevada and Arizona blue, but most of what you hear is about Cubans in Florida, and congratulations in order only for Pennsylvania and Georgia, etc.

Here on the west coast, we're used to it...

Don't hold your breath, R179. They micro targeted Latinos on these markets and won them with lies and fear. People were pointing this out before the election - that this base was in real danger.

Is is true that both Arizona and Georgia are now toss-ups?

How about a warning first, r175?

Jesus Fucking Christ.

R183

GA Biden ahead by 12,337 votes AZ Biden ahead by 14,746 votes

Both are 98%+ reported.

AZ is definitely, and GA most likely battleground states for future elections. TX is not far behind to becoming one.

[quote]Unless you all know of some charismatic Democratic Hispanics in the presidential pipeline.

Oh, hey!

R183, Georgia has a narrow margin but I don’t think it’s worse. I think it’s gradually widening.

I keep reading that although Biden’s lead is slowly narrowing in Arizona, Trump needs to get 59% there to beat Biden, and he’s not doing that. If things stay the same, Biden will squeak out a very narrow win.

Georgia is gradually getting wider. Last Friday, people assume that Biden might get a thousand vote win there. Now it's past 11,000.

Arizona, I have no idea. I think Biden will get a very small win there.

[quote]Georgia is gradually getting wider.

Don't be racist.

This shit is getting so dangerous. I hope Biden picks up the phone tomorrow to at least try to reach out to some of the cons. They don’t need to come out publicly but at least try to tone down the rhetoric.

Remember when miss Lindsey got choked up when talking about what a great guy Biden is? That fag will suck up anyone who gives her affection.

R179 Or maybe a bunch of these Hispanic voters joined a local evangelical church.

This is what's supposedly left in Arizona. Most of it's in the purple Maricopa and blue Pima. Apache and Coconino are also blue.

R114 Preach. Trump should be scared about what they might find if they start to investigate. Like for example where did those hundreds of thousands mail-in ballots that are "missing" go? There's a reason Trump messed with the USPS. It's funny how the rethugs claim Dems cheated when it's more likely they did, with help from Putin.

Are you trying to tell me the entire state of Arizona only has 15 counties?

R194 You can see them here.

Yes, 15.

Tow truck driver (from AAA) refuses to tow/service car with a Biden bumper sticker.

Later updated saying he was FIRED.

Just like Dump.

Biden already hard at work. He's done more in one day than Dump has in 4 years in office. I'm hopeful for our future.

I hope he goes back to NYC and is spit on like Ken Mehlman.

And ANY salon, restaurant, or boutique Barbie walks into should be immediately blacklisted.

Is this true? He won 86 % of the votes? If this continues I think Arizona will go to Trump.

[quote]Tow truck driver (from AAA) refuses to tow/service car with a Biden bumper sticker.

The driver wasn't "from AAA", R197. He worked for a company called River's Edge towing, which gets some of its business through AAA referrals.

I am not surprised AZ is going Biden. They hate Trump, including all ages.

[quote]Is this true?

samanthamarika.

"Just another black female conservative."

What do you think?

Still some gray/undecided areas left on the map

^ Specifically: AZ, GA, and NC

R200 I don't know what that actual percent was, but when KPNX (Channel 12 NBC Phoenix) reported it, they said Dump "fell well short of the 60%" he needed.

R204 I may be wrong, but I don't think CNN ever called Arizona. A couple of days ago, I was at their website and the state was gray, and the race wasn't even as close as it is today.

btw - Fox News still shows AZ for Biden. NC and AK are pink, and GA is light blue.

NY Times never called Arizona for anyone yet.

Actually, Alaska is also gray, but only 3 electoral votes so...

Different maps. Fox has Alaska pink, which undoubtedly is correct, since there's really no question about the end result there.

R210: yes you’re right

A better link

What scares me about Trump is that he has no faith or belief he can turn to in times like this. What do sociopaths do when they feel cornered? That guy will burn the whole world to the ground if it means that he'll come out on top and there is nobody left he owes money.

There wouldn't be one lawsuit by Team Trump had he won. It isn't about the counting, or the allowed observations, or dead voters, or extended deadlines, or "cured" ballots, or anything else being alleged as fraudulent.

It's about the usual Republican hypocrisy when things don't go their way.

What sickens me most, and does almost every election or legislation discussions, is that Democratic pols never seem to expect that Republicans will be.....Republicans. We are always Charlie Brown believing Lucy. Always the frog hitching a ride on the crocodile. Always the naif.

Biden might know the Senate. Might have schmoozed back in the day with Mitch and the gang. Might sincerely want to unify.

But he's not a Senator now. And just like when he was promoting Obama's programs, Joe will find affable old Mitch to be the Red Wall.

Just another day in which the GOP coddles the most powerful man in the world like he was a mewling child:

[quote]“What is the downside for humoring him for this little bit of time? No one seriously thinks the results will change,” said one senior Republican official. “He went golfing this weekend. It’s not like he’s plotting how to prevent Joe Biden from taking power on Jan. 20. He’s tweeting about filing some lawsuits, those lawsuits will fail, then he’ll tweet some more about how the election was stolen, and then he’ll leave.”

Looks about right.

Looks about right.

A little ditty from our friends Down Under:

Why Rio Grande Valley Latinos turned toward Trump

Las Lomitas board president resigns over wife's racist and misogynistic tweets about Kamala Harris

[quote] In one post she said of the California senator and former state attorney general: "All she needs to be qualified is a Black (profanity)! No brain needed."

[quote] In an email to The Almanac, Jon said "Mehridith is not a racist in the least

Why are so many Latinos racist toward black people? Especially when they're mostly brown themselves. Makes no sense.

I think some of you who are in panic mode and who are concerned about the republican challenges need to just take a breath and look at the big picture at what is really driving this. Even Trump knows he's lost. As does every republican who may seemingly support him and his latest tantrums. This is about Georgia and about paying off campaign debts and keeping the base motivated for GA and 2022. Stop the Steal is the new Tea Party.

Finally if you want to see what's next in the playbook, just check out the troll threads here on DL. Have you noticed the number of threads about AOC lately? The threads about democratic moderates versus progressives. They're coming us at from both sides. We just have to be able to tune out the noise and stay focused.

The courts are in the pocket of Trump. No one should feel confident now

[quote] Yvette Simpson, chief executive of the Democracy for America political action committee and an ABC News political commentator, offered an eloquent counterpoint to the current unity fetish: “Unity is great, but freedom is better,” she said. “And there’s a part of this population that has sacrificed their freedom time and time again for unity, and they’re tired of it. Yes, we want to have compromise. Yes, we want bipartisanship. But it shouldn’t cost people wages and healthcare and education. And so if you’re asking us to come together and that means my world doesn’t change, the people whose world needs to change doesn’t change, I don’t want that kind of unity.”

[quote] Rudy Willingham @RudyWillingham

[quote] I use paper cutouts to transform the world around me.

R215, that’s rich? What’s the downside? What about undermining our elections and democratic processes? And what about the possibility of even one MAGA supporter shooting people? They already caught the 2 Hummer morons who were on their way with their guns.

All Republicans are evil.

R215 "And then we'll give him a lolly and a gold star."

They make me physically ill.

R222 is right...they're afraid if they endorse President Elect Biden they will demoralize the base and lose the Senate. That's why Loeffler and Perdue came out against a fellow Republican yesterday.

Trump and his cronies are the biggest bunch of pains in the asses I've ever known.

[quote] Why are so many Latinos racist toward black people

They are not, however you are racist against Latinos.

Republicans being a bunch of pains in the asses is the key reason why they are very good at being an opposition party, they just suck at being the governing party.

Why aren’t the Democrats harnessing this energy for their base? Why aren’t they using it to help win that Georgia election? Instead they’re curled up in the fetal position crying about “Unity.” Always on their heels, always playing defense.

Oh nonsense r232.

R230 I am not racist. Just pointing out the obvious. If you trolldar me you'd actually know I have a thing for Latinos. I'm attracted to them, dark skin or light skin it doesn't matter. Most Latinos are in fact mestizo, aka brown. That is why it makes no sense that they would be racist toward black people. Yet many are. I'm not saying all Latinos are racist, but sadly many are. That one actress was caught saying the n-word, same with Camila Cabello. Again, not saying all Latinos are racist, but sadly many are.

They have been brainwashed into thinking white is better

R234 It's very simple. In America, everyone has to try to claw their way to the top of the ladder. Every group wants there to be a group lower than themselves. Look at the history of the Irish immigrants, or Italians. Treated like shit on their arrival here, they turned around and became disgusting racists at the earliest opportunity.

Sadly

Trump campaign starts lay offs.

THIS is how it's done.

Sen. Chris Coons has been on CNN this morning, suggesting that in private Republican senators are asking him to convey best wishes to president-elect Joe Biden while stating that they cannot yet say that in public because of Trump’s insistence on not conceding defeat.

Democrats are so weak and disorganized. Republicans are everywhere spouting the same vile lies like cult members. Democrats are meekly and faintly responding like a bunch of mice

Biden's legal team needs to go after the sow at GSA who won't release the transition funds. Imagine if you or I just decided one day to to refuse to do our jobs!

Democrats think that laughing at Republicans is helping defeat the opposition. The problem is that a lot of the Democratic jokes and humor goes above the heads of middle America or offends them because they think they are the target of the jokes.

R241 You don't have to become garbage in order to sweep it up.

Sow is right, r242. Kim Davis with a blowout.

[quote]in private Republican senators are asking him to convey best wishes to president-elect Joe Biden while stating that they cannot yet say that in public because of Trump’s insistence on not conceding defeat.

There is also the fact that they cannot say that in public because they are craven cowards.

More reason to dismiss them, r243.

As for laughing at them, I thought those tough avalanches (get it? avalanches are made of snowflakes) rejected coddling. Isn't that the basis for being so anti-PC?

Make no mistake about it. We're witnessing a power struggle, behind the scenes, for the ultimate control of the Republican Party. Turtle never went to the WH and didn't get the Cornona this last month. He wants to take claim for the SC tilt ad he will still be office. He does not want to relinquish control of the GOP to the Trumpanistas, so he has to placate them and keep them actively involved....until he doesn't.

Meanwhile, we set another Covid record yesterday: 130,000.

The Biden/Harris team has a lot of work to do and has to hit the ground running without any help in a transition. It's clearly why they've held up funding it and it gives them time to shred some more documents, erase tapes and get their stories straight. They really believed they were going to win again and didn't prepare.

Their panic is not my panic. I don't believe, for one second, that Roberts wants his legacy to be the end of Democracy. If anything, this effort will be rebuked. I believe in our Constitution even while I distrust those whose job it is to interpret it.

[quote] What scares me about Trump is that he has no faith or belief he can turn to in times like this. What do sociopaths do when they feel cornered?

You’re a moron.

Biden is still slowly increasing his lead in PA. He could win the state by 100k when everything is counted.

R242, Trump must be telling her not to release the funds. As long as she works there, can she do anything different?

It’s the same with all these people. As bad as they are, if they quit or Trump fired them, he’ll replace them with somebody even worse.

Bottom Line: A coup is bad for business. The greedy fuckers would sooner sh*t where they eat than cut into profits. Regulating them is priority one.

She'll have to release the funds once the electors decide and certify. Let her keep having her little tantrum. She'll be first on the firing list.

Between 2000 and 2014 over one billion (1,000,000,000) votes were cast in American elections. The number of documented cases of voter fraud? 32

And yet 70% of Republicans do not believe the 2020 election was free and fair.

We have a lot of work to do.

R254 The transition team needs the funds to start working now. And they are entitled to them.

Has Arizona been called? I have just seen on a British account which follows polls over here and reported on the US elections that Arizona has reached the point where they are happy to call it for Joe Biden. I suppose the count must be virtually complete if that is the case.

I agree, R256, and I think her feet should be held to the fire until she does release them, but how do you propose we get her to do that?

This shit is unreal, but that's our reality right now. I'm good with seeing all the bad behavior because I'm a sane person who believes in taking personal responsiblity and real consequences....like jail time and such. Any traditions we had are done. They want to live by the letter of the law and to the last vote? We're ok with that....and also with the consequences of no longer extending you the same courtesy. The bitch and everyone who does shit like this in the coming days will be fired. AAA guy was fired - consequences.

[quote]What scares me about Trump is that he has no faith or belief he can turn to in times like this.

Plenty of people don't have "faith" or "belief" and are still good people. Trump's probably is psychopathy.

Well maybe deplorables will stop voting since they don’t have faith in elections any more. Fine by me! In fact if you voted for Trump you should be BANNED from voting for at least two elections.

Given the sizable number of DLers who will go to their graves believing that Russians somehow hacked the actual voting machines in swing states and switched the election for Trump in 2016, why should it surprise you that many Republicans believe that this election was somehow stolen?

Conspiracy theories make people feel better.

[quote]why should it surprise you that many Republicans believe that this election was somehow stolen?

Trump cultists believe it was stolen, because they believe anything Trump tells them. Republican Party officials don't for one moment think it was stolen.

[quote] why should it surprise you that many Republicans believe that this election was somehow stolen?

r261. Maybe the lack of a Reality Winner type of whistleblower who went to prison for what she shared? Before that it was all just an unfounded (conspiracy) theory. After the scandal it became a fact the media refused to blow up for some reason (to keep the voting process' integrity intact?).

And R215 et al have nailed it-- the GOP is just letting Trump's tantrum's play out because they don't want him turning on them and launching candidates to challenge them. They are betting that this will all die out within a week or so and then Biden can take over and they can start warning their supporters about AOC.

Trump will likely never utter the words "I concede" but he will leave on or prior to January 20th because he's only brave when he's behind a keyboard where no one can see him

DLers believed that long before Reality Winner R263

Here's the thing, R261, there has been a very clear pattern of this administration's tendency to tranference, their bs relationship to Russia, actual people going to jail and indicted FROM THERE, and this jit and his cronies ALWAYS accuse anyone of cheating because they are themselves guilty of it.

[bold] The One Where R261 Triggers All Of DL's Conspiracy Theorists

[quote] DLers believed that long before Reality Winner.

That belief was confirmed thanks to Reality Winner. That's the point. Like gossip being turned into a fact when a legit press outlet reports it and it turns it from gossip to a fact.

She would probably start considering Chinese style “re-education camps” we need to put deplorables in. We will never have peace otherwise. They can also do forced labor on Biden’s infrastructure plans that he will have.

Who's next?

Joe is now up by almost 5 million nationally.

probably = problem

British prime minister Boris Johnson has taken to Twitter to let us know that he’s just spoken with US president-elect Joe Biden and congratulated the Democrat on his victory in the election. Johnson told Biden he looked forward to strengthening the partnership between the UK and the US.

He also said, crucially, that he looks forward to working with the incoming president Biden on tackling climate change, promoting democracy and - in the Biden campaign phrase that Boris recently “borrowed” from Joe - “building back better” from the coronavirus pandemic ravaging both their nations.

Today is the GOP senate lunch which pence is attending. Expect the craziness to be taken up a notch today.

I don't understand why they haven't called Georgia yet. There are no more votes left to count and Biden's lead is insurmountable. A recount would only change a few dozen votes at best.

Biden is now up to 50.8% of the popular vote, topping Reagan’s 50.7% in 1980. This is the highest percentage for a challenger since FDR in 1932.

GA must certify the election results BEFORE any recount takes place. I believe the deadline to do so is this week and they will have to certify Biden's win. Then they can challenge as much as they want.

This is a GRIFT. It’s all for fundraising and keeping the brain dead base motivated to vote in GA. If Mitch had his majority outright, we wouldn’t be seeing this circus. There is not going to be a coup. Pence is going on vacation for a week. Not something one does when they’re planning to overthrow the US constitution and start a civil war. Yes it’s incredibly dangerous and unnerving, and if the election was close they could maybe get away with it. But it just isn’t going to happen.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

AG Barr Authorizes DOJ To Probe Fraud Allegations | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Have the Republicans considered that this is ALSO firing up the Democratic base? I'm donating money to Act Blue to help with the Senate run-off races, and I'm even considering joining one of their texting banks. I never would have done that in previous elections.

Glenn Kirschner has no time for frivolous election lawsuits.

I agree that this is a grift to fire up the Deplorable base. The Republicans have huge campaign debts to pay off, and they are relying on donations from the base (many of whom are impoverished) to pay it all off. It's both sad and hilarious at the same time.

R200 Getting back to you here, that crazy bitch almost doubled the percent Dump got in that dump.

[quote] Trump took 49.2% of 6,495 votes that were posted in Maricopa County at 7 p.m. on Monday, with Biden taking 47%. That was far short of what Trump needed. To overtake Biden, he needs more than 60% of all the remaining ballots statewide.

Also, this AZ Central article reports that the disputed ballots only total 200. That's downright laughable.

So many lies coming out of AZ.

It’s so bad what the GOP is saying. Roy Blunt is now saying trump “may not have been defeated at all”

What is happening?

Apparently Mrs. Tishell has remarried.

[quote]Today is the GOP senate lunch which pence is attending. Expect the craziness to be taken up a notch today.

Please let it be a superspreader event (and I'm not just referring to the Senatrice's legs.)

Pompeii ha entered making a “joke” about a smooth transition to a second trump admin.

This is not funny anymore and there is legitimate cause for concern.

The crazy has been yanked up to maximum. Pompeo is now promising a "smooth transition to a second Trump administration."

Can someone get me up to speed on the Pompeii thing, please? (Poor DLer at work). Was he kidding or serious?

We just lost another House seat ... Harley Rouda conceded in CA-48. This was an Dana Rohrabacher's seat that was flipped blue in 2018.

A Coup d'etat is being attempted.

I guess Barr is waiting until tomorrow to announce his fancy new DOJ investigation into fraud, that will come up with nothing.

We need to take all of this very seriously. They think they can get away with a coup and they won’t stop until they’ve tried every option they can.

Wait a minute, Pompous Ass just said there will be a smooth transition into a 2nd Trump term in front of cameras? Am I in some kind of alternate reality? Did he just declare the second civil war?

The BLM protests will look like a day as Disneyland compared to what will come if they go thru with this coup. There won’t BE a Washington because it will be a pile of ash

Traitors, every one of them. This is incredibly damaging to national security. It is a coup, and the military needs to put an end to it.

BREAKING: White House tells federal agencies to proceed with plans for Trump's February budget in latest sign of defiance

R297, are they tucking kidding? Is anyone organizing a March? Protests?

So, Pence skipped town because he refuses to 25A Dump, right?

French President Emmanuel Macron on Tuesday held his first telephone talks with Joe Biden since the Democrat was elected the next president of the United States, his Elysee Palace office said. “The president congratulated Joe Biden and his vice president Kamala Harris and emphasized his desire to work together on the current issues — climate, health, the fight against terrorism and the defense of fundamental rights,” the Elysee said.

At Joe Biden’s speech and press conference, the president-elect just said: “We are already beginning the transition.” The answer was in response to a press question about his response to Donald Trump’s refusal to concede that Biden and Harris won last week’s election. “The fact that they are not willing to acknowledge that we have won at this point if not of much consequence in our planning and what we are able to do between now and January 20,” he said.

Biden said he hoped to avoid legal action to resist the Trump administration’s efforts to overturn the result of last week’s election.

“Nothing will slow up our efforts to put things together,” he said of the transition team’s efforts to prepare to take power... “nothing is going to stop that.”

Biden-voting grandmas will be out torching shit if Magats pull this off.

R297 JFC. When's the riot?

R297

Holy f-ing shit. WTF.

Our federal government is literally rejecting the results of a democratic election. I expected Trump to do his dog-and-pony 'it's a hoax' show, but this is next-level shit.

If there aren't mass resignations in protest, this is a huge freaking problem. They are spending taxpayer money to pay the salaries of employees to prepare a budget proposal for a president who has been voted out of office.

Wow, how terrified is Trump of being prosecuted in NY state after this. He's so desperate to stay in office/achieve a coup.

All his enablers - they need to be prosecuted after this.

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100% THIS

R290, Pompeo is claiming that there is vast amount of fraud with no evidence. They’re saying Trump is going to be President again. Pompeo gave a nasty smirk when he said that. They mentioned it on CNN so it’s not just me.

The Biden admin are due $9.9 million in transition funds which they’re refusing to hand over. He can’t even get government assistance to do security checks on his potential hires.

Biden came out and talked about Covid plans, then he answered questions. They were all about Trump/Pompeo and fraud claims. Nobody cared about Covid. Biden was extremely Presidential and very tactful about what he said. It was obvious he was trying not to bait Trump and Pompeo. Said he’s talked to England, Ireland, Canada, Germany, I think France and some others. They congratulated him. Says he has to call some others back. Says he’s getting together his list of hires. He was asked if he needs to government money. He says no. Was asked if Trump’s actions hold him back. He says no. Was asked, what would you say to Trump if he’s watching now? He gave a big smile and said, I look forward to talking to you. Exuded confidence. Says he’s not planning to take legal action. Made it sound like it’s all a done deal and Trump is just some crazy crybaby. Said it was “an embarrassment,” meaning to the country. Says foreign leaders are expressing concern about our Democratic process here.

Biden is not just talking to us, he’s talking to foreign countries too. He can’t give Trump ammo to attack him. He can’t say, omg, we’re living in a dictatorship! Democracy’s over! Russia is watching. All our enemies are watching. I think Biden is smarter than people give him credit for. He’s doing his talking behind the scenes.

We should probably contribute to a Biden transition fund, since he’s not going to get that money until it’s too late.

We should just let the red states go. They’re welfare states that contribute absolutely nothing to America.

R308, thank you. I was on a call at work when I saw the headline and my eyeballs popped out of my sockets. This fuckery need to end soon.

Biden is playing as cool as a cucumber, and thank fucking God. He is what our country needs right now.

[quote] Cal Cunningham has conceded the NC Senate race to Thom Tillis.

Biden and his team foresaw the resistance they would run into trying to get the transition money released. Apparently they have something like 7+ million dollars set aside for that very purpose.

Wonder if Mike Bloomberg would lend the Biden Transition Team any funds they need...

From the WaPo article:

[quote]But further complicating their effort: David Bossie, tapped to lead the campaign’s legal effort, tested positive for the coronavirus, according to a person familiar with the situation.

I wonder how many more people are going to 'test positive' to avoid being caught up in this.

I know the election pretty much proved them worthless but I really would like to see some polling or something about the impact of Trump's bullshit in GA and on the runoff. The GOP are clearly under the impression it'll help energise the base and bring them out; polling saying otherwise would see a dramatic change in attitudes.

538 has moved Arizona to likely Biden. Trump is behind by 14,000 votes, and there are 60,000 votes outstanding. Some of those are provisional, and they may not count.

306 looks like the number.

Republican adviser Stuart Stevens tweeted that the Democratic House of Representatives has the power to withhold all monies for Trump once he leaves office. I guess he's talking about Secret Service protection once he leaves office.

R313, we should send Biden money anyway as a gesture of support. We know the Republicans don’t have a lot of money, plus they want to do a lot of expensive lawsuits. Let the Republicans see we’re not going away.

Pompeo, Barr, and Emily Murphy are throwing their weight around to hinder Team Biden's transition.

Jon Ossoff looks so much like pornstar James Deen.

Very canny of the Biden Team to carry on, methodically and calmly, not getting in the shit with Trump's madness. Why engage with someone who should be in a mental institution or prison?

R318

Donations should all be going to the GA senate run-off campaigns.

One thing you might have overlooked: Philly. For all the complaints about the count there... it's still the only place in PA that's counted fewer ballots than 2016

More like coup de poop

Every lawsuit is being tossed

Democrats should be livid that their Party was unable to galvanize critical voters in Cleveland, Dayton, Miami, the Rio Grande, and Philly. All that money raised, and Democrats still can’t get its urban base to turn out strong

Eat Trump’s shit-encrusted ass, you quisling fucktard at R325.

I'd also note something similar in Wisconsin. Yeah, there's higher turnout in Milwaukee County. It also happens to be up by less than the state as a whole h

R326, I don’t know what R325 said because I have that cretin blocked, but I ww’d your post anyway, because you’re absolutely right!

On a lighter note:

Seth Meyers told the story of his first show 6 years ago. He wanted Amy Poehler to be his first guest as he felt she was equally responsible for his success in getting his own show. Then VP Biden was also scheduled for the first show and they had to ask him to come on second after Amy to which he graciously agreed. Joe also brought Seth an Amtrak Conductor's hat and a train whistle as gifts. Seth uses the train whistle with his sons every night.

Video is 2:41 long.

To my mind, the easiest way to see it: the crosstabs on white voters nationwide, particularly whites without a degree In 2016, the polls *did* show Trump doing way better among those voters. In 2020, they did not. And they were dead wrong. Same story with seniors.

R317 But Trump is refusing to leave office!

So polls were wrong that Trump was not Doing as well with noncollege whites and seniors.

[quote]I don’t know what [R325] said because I have that cretin blocked

Well you do now since you quoted him.

Some early theories on went went wrong with the pre-election polling this year

r309, I tend to think that if the Confederacy had succeeded it would have become our biggest debtor nation and greatest source of undocumented immigrants.

[quote]Some early theories on went went wrong with the pre-election polling this year

Oh, who the fuck cares? I will never pay attention to a pollster again.

I have R336 on block.

R334 Isn't it possible that the polls weren't wrong, but that Russia had full access to the voting machines and were able hack the tallies? I'd like to see the end comparison of pollsters predictions for in-person voting vs their predictions for mail-in.....This is why Trump and his cronies worked so hard to destroy our Postal System. They knew they had the voting machines rigged, but couldn't do so with the mail-in ballots.

They want mail-in ballots to be investigated in Pennsylvania and Arizona? Fine. As long as they let the Democrats fully investigate the voting machines in Florida and Georgia - the two states with the highest amount of machine irregularities - (add Ohio).

Pompeo speaks

Eh, I think the Confederacy has succeeded way too much for more than 150 years. The victors in 1865 were too nice. In a different world, Atlanta would have been Hiroshima and Richmond would have been Nagasaki.

You have to obliterate an enemy to teach 'em a lesson they won't forget.

Ms Paris Dennard AKA R336 is all over this thread.

Dave Wasserman on PA:

New: latest Philadelphia count adds over 2k votes and Biden wins them 92%-7%, pushing his statewide PA lead past 47k.

We're well out of automatic recount territory now (0.7 > 0.5), and Biden is still on track to win PA by more than double Trump's 2016 PA margin (44,292 votes).

Nevada this AM.

We were goofing on Nevada in the beginning, but Mr. Gloria (in the video) seems like a highly competent guy worthy of praise.

I find this part funny ...

[quote] On the final day that mail ballots postmarked by Election Day were accepted, the Clark County Elections Department received seven on Tuesday, according to Registrar Joe Gloria.

SEVEN .. lol!

Pence said at the senate GOP lunch that he thinks he’s gonna be continuing to serve as the president of the senate. These people have no intentions of going anywhere and we need to accept that and start the fight. We should be mobilising. They are cooking something up behind the scenes to over turn the election.

[quote] Pence said at the senate GOP lunch that he thinks he’s gonna be continuing to serve as the president of the senate

Source, R344.

All of this needs to be documented. Once the administration has turned, the traitors must be named and shamed/punished/ostracized

Yeah, you’re going to need to back that up with a source, R344.

Not r344 but here's a source.

We are in for a military coup. This is how it happens in other countries. Completely terrifying

Fuck off the coup is not going to work.

The rethugs trolls didn’t leave. They are now bombing DL with threads about the coup to overshadow Biden’s win.

Stop giving oxygen to the republicans.

R347, that source contradicts R344. He did not say he is going to....STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!

How would some of you survive if you weren't in a constant state of panic?

Fox News’ Bill Hemmer: We Haven’t Seen Evidence on Team Trump Nevada Claims, ‘At What Moment Do You Say Put Up or Shut Up?’

Donnie Deutsch was just on with Nicolle Wallace and he said that Trump is refusing to concede because it helps with his upcoming TV network. Donnie said that he knows he's lost, but it's better for his image to be seen as a fighter who had the election stolen from him than as a toothless loser.

According to Donnie, the network is in the process of being set-up and will be a subscription-based service with virtual rallies.

Open your eyes. He’s purging people at the pentagon. For the first time in history the GOP is not accepting the results of the election. Pompeo’s comments, Barr, Pence saying he thinks he’ll still be president of the senate. This is not normal! This is not just performance for the base. There’s shit going in behind the scenes. They’re attempting something. We all need to be on high alert.

R354, FUCK OFF BORIS!!!!

The election was last week and the decision was Saturday, yet all we hear is " Trump." He's managing to dominate the news, even though he lost.

It's up to four lawsuits now being thrown out in Nevada.

Because you keep reporting every one of his little cunt farts here, R356.

R343, that’s not a coincidence.

The Democratic Party in Nevada did a series of commercials. There was a loud tone, like a bell tone, then, at first, an announcer said vote by mail in ballot, and either mail your ballot or drop it off, go to this website and find out where. It was really short, maybe ten seconds, with the words written in large white letters on the screen with a blue background.

The last week or two, the commercial changed. First, you would hear the loud tone. Then, it said, it’s too late to mail your ballot, drop it off in person. Go to this website to get the locations. These were both done like it was a public service announcement. They were very plain. No visuals except for the words on the screen. They ran this on CNN. Presumably elsewhere.

Everyone in Nevada knew it was too late at least the last week. They were told, don’t even try to mail it, it’s too late.

I’m glad to hear this worked so well.

There are few surprises here. They have been telegraphing their plans for months, and Biden and Harris have been prepared for all of this. They aren't just surrounded by their kids and campaign doners.

[quote]‘At What Moment Do You Say Put Up or Shut Up?’

How about some time last week?

R357, FYI, Aaron Ford, the Nevada Attorney General, is black and Democratic and made it plain before the election he wasn’t going to put up with phony claims or voter suppression. He was very direct.

[quote]They aren't just surrounded by their kids and campaign doners.

"Doners?"

Cal is a douche. And he got caught, well admitted to it. And it seems like one of the reasons he's not North Carolina's newest Senator.

A little, innocent light relief for you all.

Trump is, again, trying to control reality with these lawsuits and with announcements like the February budget thing. Biden and his people are refusing to respond to Trump's words and actions as if they have anything to do with the real world. They just did a broadcast on Facebook where Biden's attorney explained how all the lawsuits are getting thrown out one by one, and most are being brought by Trump himself, not the campaign. Again, it's just noise and fireworks. Biden will be president on January 20th.

I don’t like people who try to lull you into believing everything will be okay. Wise people tell you to fight every step of the way

McConnell has not been distracted by this brouhaha.

[quote]Confirmed, 64-24: Executive Calendar #865 James Ray Knepp II to be a U.S. District Judge for the Northern District of Ohio.

R367 it’s not like Biden doesn’t have an entire legal team totally prepared to fight behind the scenes if necessary. They’re just trying to calm the country down. And I think that’s smart.

And Biden’s attorneys are a hell of a lot better than Trump’s. It’s not that he isn’t necessary “playing dirty.” He’s just letting other people do it and remaining the friendly face.

Agreed r366, it just ain't working. And even as an act it's just stale and stupid. Most people are treating this as what it is: the ravings of a drug-addled doofus who lies constantly and can't deal with losing.

Not working. He’s going. They’ll try and fail.

Biden is winning a huge popular vote margin. Biden is winning a comfortable electoral victory. Biden flipped 5 states, including two red states. We gained in the Senate. This wasn’t really a close election.

R368, I’m surprised he’s not trying to appoint judges in Georgia and Pennsylvania. Maybe that’s next.

Democrats in Congress just need to start voting no to every fucking thing that happens.

Here's one perspective on why this is about creating a distraction for COVERUP rather than an attempted coup.

Ego

Weakness

Grift

Con

Attention

Fear

...and, because they are pathetic...

Pompeo's statement that there would be a smooth transition to a second term...

Seems like outright trolling. Why would you need to "transition," to just carry on with business?

Republicans have nothing to offer voters but lies, propaganda, suppression and gaslighting. That’s it. Republicans are shit at governing. They always favor the rich elites yet they get elected because THEY KNOW HOW TO TALK TO RURAL, NON COLLEGE WHITES? They lie to them but they can talk to them. Wow.

Btw- Dems are not just a coastal party- we win the mid-west all the time. We are winning more in the west and southwest. We are making inroads in the south. We win where people actually live. If we would just spread out a bit we’d crush conservatives. Yet WE get lectured after an election we fucking won?

Message to Democrats: focus.

Win Georgia Senate Run-offs.

The erosion in working class Latino (besides Cuban) support worries me. We do need more Bernie type rhetoric, especially since they liked him so much in the primary. Politically it's one thing if poor whites who haven't voted Dem in decades insist they're being "left behind," another if it's the working class among the current base too! I'm starting to agree we need less emphasis on SJW stuff about "Latinx," and more economics. Apparently Trump made a whole bunch of Spanish ads targeting them. I have no idea why the Biden people didn't do more of that, but we need to improve next time. We really don't need to become the Rich People's Party in peoples' minds. And then there's low black turnout...thankfully Biden won handily, but there are traces of this in down ballot races too and I don't like these as trends. We need to work on messaging, for starters.

Los demócratas necesitan aprender a hablar español.

Yamiche Alcindor:

A PA postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations.

From r379:

L Meng@SFMENG ·

He probably recanted when the check bounced

Just another Whore for Trump. Sad.

College educated whites are becoming more liberal and Democratic. Republicans are left with rural, aggrieved whites. It’s not nothing but they can’t win with just them. They can pick at the margins of our base but it won’t be easy to win.

Washington Post:

Postal worker featured by Republicans as evidence of vote tampering admits he made it up; GOP donors gave him $130,000

God, wingnuts are so easy to scam. I swear, sometimes, I wish I could just be completely amoral, maybe just for a month, just long enough to come up with some stupid fucking scam involving the saintliness of Donald Trump and rake in the big bucks.

If Trump keeps acting like a deranged psychopath and the two Republican candidates in GA don't distance themselves from him, the Democrats need to make the election there a referendum on democracy and the future of the country.

What are they doing in the Department of Defense? It’s amazing that NOT ONE Republican will tell Trump to stop being a complete dick.

Off-topic: I never watch Fox News. I had no idea that Bill Hemmer at R352 had gotten so old-looking.

Not so fast R382

Republicans managed to pick up a decent number of working class Latinos and a small but not insignificant number of working class Blacks this last election.

The question though is did these voters come specifically for Trump and what he represents (a form of populism) versus what the rest of the Republicans bring. As in I can't imagine a Tom Cotton or Nimrata Haley being anywhere near as popular with that crowd as Trump is.

R383 Can or are they going to prosecute him for anything? When it comes to voting, such made up bullshit is serious.

Link r388?

Link to what R388? How working class people feel about Nimrata?

[quote]And Biden’s attorneys are a hell of a lot better than Trump’s.

By all accounts, the Orange legal team is that non-lawyer with COVID-19, Corey Lewandowski, Pam Bondi, and Arabella Kushner with her crayons, filling out legal filings.

Michigan's bluest county, Washtenaw, home to UMich and Ann Arbor, carried a lot of Biden's statewide margin.

Joe Biden got the largest democratic margin EVER, being the only Democrat in history to carry this county by more than 70%, largely through boosting student turnout.

[quote]admits he made it up; GOP donors gave him $130,000

You don't say.

I refuse to live in fear of a lame duck dotard. Period.

oops, wrong thread, but not necessarily

Trump hasn't been in front of a camera in a week. That has to be a record.

And Biden passes a 5 million vote lead Nationwide.

Joe needs to go to Georgia. A lot. Kamala too. Show voters what winning looks like.

This evening's balott update from Arizona via local 12News reporter.

So the AP and Fox were correct about Arizona all along.

[quote]As in I can't imagine a Tom Cotton or Nimrata Haley being anywhere near as popular with that crowd as Trump is.

They would if Trump sells them to his deplorables. That's why Trump will hold sway in the GOP. So far, the rumors/theories are for some form of Trump TV, and a Trump PAC. Of course the main goal of these ventures would be self-aggrandisement and $$$, and keeping his deplorable base ready for when he runs in 2024.

But if the doesn't run. he can sell his support and the deplorable votes to the highest bidder.

[quote] By all accounts, the Orange legal team is that non-lawyer with COVID-19, Corey Lewandowski, Pam Bondi, and Arabella Kushner with her crayons, filling out legal filings.

You forgot Brendad Ickson, the sharpest legal mind in California.

All this talk of Trump running in 2024 strikes me as far-fetched. It seems highly likely he'll be incapacitated by then, if not taking a dirt nap.

Zzzzzzzzzzz

R404, evil doesn't die.

This is the latest from Arizona, just a few minutes ago. This is what’s left to count.

They need to hurry the fuck up. Why don’t these states count 24/7

Douchey Ducey probably licking Trump ass that is why.

I just got this from the “Biden Fight Fund”:

——, as we celebrate our historic victory for Democrats across the country and the promise of a Biden-Harris Administration, Donald Trump is doubling down on lawsuits.

We are confident in our victory, and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are eager to get to work for the American people, but Trump’s lawsuits will bring this fight to court, and we need to be able to afford the legal battles ahead.

This much litigation is expensive, but we need to be prepared to fight these lawsuits regardless and ensure Trump doesn’t win them just because we don’t have the funds to fight back.

Which is why today we are re-launching our Biden Fight Fund, and why we need your help to fill it with $30 million in the coming days and weeks.

——, will you donate $25 directly to the Biden Fight Fund right now so that we can pay for the new round of legal resources for our campaign and for Democrats across the country? Click here or the buttons below to send resources directly to this effort:

If you've saved payment information with ActBlue Express, your donation will go through immediately: $25 ➞ $50 ➞ $100 ➞ $250 ➞ $500 ➞ Other ➞

——, as our team has said from the beginning this was never going to be easy, but this fight is worth it.

So while the election is over, and we understand if you were not planning on making another donation today, we hope you will contribute to the Biden Fight Fund to finish what we started.

We wouldn’t be asking if we didn’t truly need $30 million to be able to fund the legal work ahead -- we can’t run out of resources now, which is why we need to fill this fund as soon as we can.

And while $30 million seems like a lot of money, this isn’t an arbitrary number. It’s what our leadership team has projected we truly need for the fights ahead for the White House and for Democrats across the country. And we can get there if every grassroots donor chips in a little to help.

Please, will you chip in $25 to the Biden Fight Fund so that we can greenlight the necessary next steps of this legal battle and elect Democrats across the country?

If you've saved payment information with ActBlue Express, your donation will go through immediately: $25 ➞ $50 ➞ $100 ➞ $250 ➞ $500 ➞ Other ➞ Thank you for sticking with us. Together, there is nothing we cannot do.

Biden Fight Fund

Biden needs to do some serious LBJ style ball twisting. He needs to get McConnell alone and tell him he has photographic evidence of his being kicked out of the military for buttfucking...Now Mitch, are we going to work together to pass some legislation?

How much do I need to contribute to get access to the Hunter Biden sex tape?

My guess is Biden is more the iron fist in a velvet glove type. Let’s see what he does. Listening to him today, he didn’t seem to be in a big hurry to talk to McConnell. I bet there’s a reason.

One of my biggest joys from this election will be seeing Nazi, incel adjacent, Steven Miller gone. I wish him nothing but heartache. Sorry, but some people just deserve that.

I read that they did a manual hand count in Arizona and got a perfect match in the ballot count. They were only able to come up with 180 possible over votes. Not enough to change anything, and some of them may turn out to be valid.

R414, you have to have a heart to have a heartache. That guy is like an empty body without a soul.

99% in everywhere but Nevada, and Biden is ahead everywhere but NC. (Not sure why they haven't called that for Trump yet.)

State E.V. Leader Margin Est. votes in Arizona 11 Biden ✓ +12,813 99% Georgia 16 Biden +12,651 99% Nevada 6 Biden ✓ +36,726 95% North Carolina 15 Trump +73,312 99% Pennsylvania 20 Biden ✓ +47,497 99%

Sorry--forgot to space:

State E.V. Leader Margin Est. votes in

Arizona 11 Biden ✓ +12,813 99%

Georgia 16 Biden +12,651 99%

Nevada 6 Biden ✓ +36,726 95%

North Carolina 15 Trump +73,312 99%

Pennsylvania 20 Biden ✓ +47,497 99%

Four Seasons Total Landscaping is having fun with MAGA.

Actual merch:

Mark Kelly did ads in Navajo areas in the Dine’ (Navajo) language. That may explain why Biden did so well there.

Breaking: Biden's popular vote lead just crossed 5 million (3.3%).

I don't like the fact that fundraising for the legal battles could take away from fundraising for Georgia, and I do slightly wonder if that's a part of the GOP strategy.

And did they really spend everything they raised pre-election?

trolling

46,769 ballots left in Arizona, 1/3 will be probably be invalidated. Trump is good as done. He netted a pitiful 769 votes tonight. Joe should be able to win Arizona by round 5-7k votes.

Georgia now +14,149 for Biden.

Wow bruh

Democrat Tom O’Halleran has won the race for Arizona’s 1st Congressional District, the AP projects. The race was one of the state’s most closely watched races

r407 why has Greenlee County been unable to verify three signatures or process two provisional ballots SINCE THURSDAY?!?

OMG, it's a coup!*!^!

Dave wasserman: Kim (R) just turned in an unreal performance in the Los Angeles Co. portion of #CA39 (Rowland Heights, Diamond Bar, Walnut), zooming ahead of both Trump's '16 share and her own '18 share. I'm pretty curious what happened there.

Good for Wasserman for speaking up. Maybe the actual cheating will actually be looked into this time. Fucking Russia has now hacked the vote in two elections. They just couldn't overcome the mail-in votes and overshot in many places.

I honestly think this is one of the reasons the Repugs aren't speaking up against treasonous Trump. The Democrats can't very well start bringing up the actual cheating that took place while Trump is proclaiming cheating across the land. Remember, Repugs project their crimes onto others all the time. Now, after we take over, our new Attorney General and DoJ will finally look into the hacking of the vote in 2016 and 2020.

R66, Rudy's actually prepared to fight this all the way to the Supreme Courtyard Construction and Iron Works of Macon Georgia.

This is hilarious.

This is hilarious.

Any update on Arizona?

Any update on Arizona?

In GA, every Dem voter- vote by mail! The voting machines should not be trusted. In fact going forward, vote by mail wherever you can.

[quote]I have [R336] on block.

I have no one on block.

Daniel Dale retweeted this post.

Pentagon finally confirms near total decapitation of civilian leadership in the last 24 hours. Secretary of Defense Esper fired Monday, the top Pentagon Policy official, top Defense Department intelligence official, and chief of staff to the Defense Secretary all out today.

[quote]Something's A Brewing

Something's A Broken

Pennsylvania Vote Update.

This is madness.

And Pence went MIA to avoid 25A pressure. What a coward.

The poll worker spoke to Ingraham on Tuesday night, though the Fox host said her guest would be kept in a silhouette and would have her voice disguised because of “her own safety concerns.” The guest claimed that she saw a Biden-Harris campaign van parked near her polling location where people were taking papers out of envelopes.

“As I walked by I looked and I thought ‘those are ballots.’ It was kind of an odd, like, what are they doing?” The poll worker said.

The poll worker claimed they walked by the van multiple times and watched the people put the “ballots” back inside the envelopes after marking them down. She said that her view was at least partially obstructed since the people had their backs to her, but then one of those people noticed her, “and the whole line moves as I walk by them. And it scared me.”

Between the coincidental elements of the poll worker’s story, the lack of solid proof, and the weirdness of the interview set-up, there were a lot of audiences who were very skeptical of Ingraham’s guest, and they didn’t hesitate to show it on Twitter:

Georgia Vote Update.

The Biden campaign are getting daily legal briefings.

[quote] BREAKING: Trump wins Alaska

Nancy Pelosi has been unusually quiet.

And are we supposed to believe that the almost flawlessly run Biden campaign was moving illegal Ballots out of a MARKED Biden-Harris van? If you're gonna make up shit, at least say it was a plain white van or something.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[quote] BREAKING Dan Sullivan (R) wins reelection to U.S. Senate from Alaska,

[quote]Nancy Pelosi has been unusually quiet.

Silence does not equal inactivity.

r429 All of those areas in LA Co. are HEAVILY Asian, and have become more so in the past two years.

Not gonna say where I live,but at my mother's church, the men's group has been big on service during COVID, and helping seniors with grocery shopping, etc. This is a Black church, OK? After the controversy over the post office slowing the mail, they decided to hand deliver the absentee ballots right down to the elections office. Any Senior Citizen or disabled person who wanted to participate just called them. One of the deacons came by, picked up Mother's ballot along with 20 others at her apartment building. and dropped them off. His car had a Biden/Harris sticker.. He did nothing illegal.

R542 Tell those men thank you! They are heroes. I really mean that.

I actually mean r452. Lol

R448, many of his supporters don’t read. I guess they can buy the book and put it on the coffee table for decorative purposes beside their copy of “Mein Kampf”.

I just feel so uneasy about all of this. Trump is the Mad King yelling “burn them all!” and, so far, we don’t have a Jaime Lannister to save us all. I think Biden will be sworn in in January, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t going to try every last thing, including arguing the results when they get sent to the senate for confirmation. We are in for dark times and I won’t be resting easy until Biden is in the Oval.

R456, I don’t want Jaime Lannister, I want Drogon to fly over the WH.

An now the asshole is going to profit off of his failed presidency. I don't like the idea of prosecuting former presidents, but this one needs to be under the fucking the jail.

A little humorous meme to ease our tension.

[bold]MAGA nation tries to rally around Trump with MAGApalooza[/bold]

In 2016, President Donald Trump’s supporters — hardly known as MAGA nation at that point — jeered at the backlash to his election, mocking the pink-hatted anti-Trumpers who’d dubbed themselves “The Resistance” and marched on Washington.

On Saturday, it’s their turn to resist.

The disparate tribes of MAGA Nation — Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, Infowars fanatics, Groypers, Proud Boys, white nationalists, neo-Nazis and the people who would simply call themselves die-hard MAGA — have declared that they are simply going to show up in Washington en masse over the weekend to rally together, with the marquee event on Saturday.

The groups have assigned the gathering different names: the Million MAGA March, the March for Trump, Stop the Steal DC. But they’re all set to take place Saturday in the nation’s capital, around noon, with most set to congregate near Freedom Plaza, just east of the White House, though some groups have also suggested the Supreme Court building down the National Mall. It’s unclear how many people may show up, and past promises of massive rallies have sometimes fizzled out. Notably, organizers have not filed for permits, according to a spokesperson for the D.C. Metropolitan Police. But disinformation and extremist researchers have estimated anywhere from several hundred to several thousand may show up.....

What are the chances that congress just refuses to certify the results? Would they perform a coup so publicly?

I welcome my President Trump renewing his rallies. It will be cold, but I will warm the menz with the heat of my lollapalooza.

R461, Why would Nancy refuse to do that?

R463 Pence is the senate president and he can disagree with her

This article goes into what can happen in congress, and it isn’t pretty, and pretty much would be the end of the country and probably start world war 3

Eventbrite refused to carry their rally:

A new poll showed close races in both of Georgia’s Senate runoffs, an unsurprising finding given how close the state’s results in the presidential election are.

According to a poll from the Republican-leaning firm Remington Research Group, Republican Kelly Loeffler is attracting the support of 49% of likely runoff voters, compared to 46% for Democrat Raphael Warnock.

In the other runoff race, Republican incumbent David Perdue leads Democrat Jon Ossoff by 4 points among likely voters, 50%-46%.

(The margin of error in the survey was 2.6 points.)

Georgia SOS about to announce GA will conduct a hand recount

They don't know how many hands they have r467?

We need to be mobilizing. They are going to try anything and everything and something could work. And trump just fired the guy who disagreed with him about sending troops onto the streets.

R461 Nyet Boris, the congress has a Democratic Party majority. No bonus of an extra helping of borscht for you!

R4671 this was announced already days ago as it was evident that the margin will fall within recount territory.

They’re trying to slow the counts down to try to miss the certification deadlines

Georgia doing a hand recount

It’s not about overturning the election. It’s about trying to find justification to say they can’t be sure of the results and for congress or the state legislators to appoint trump as president.

I’m terrified

FLORIDA. A week after the election, Cong Charlie Crist (D) is still running campaign ads on TV - in the guise of "thank you" messages. Sounds like someone thinking of running for Governor (his old job) or US Senate again in 2022.

Biden doesn’t need Georgia or Arizona to win. He has PA and he’s ahead by enough votes to prevent a recount.

Election is over.

GA officials are also saying the recount will do little to nothing to erase the lead Biden has there. It is a formality.

What if there was an enormous effort by Russia, once again, to help Trump get elected and now they’re trying to hide the evidence with all the firings and by bringing in Nines and his cow to do the clean up?

Remember how we had that really weird press conference where they talked about Iran trying to help Democrats, which made zero sense and then they just briefly mentioned Russia?

The reason 2000 took so long was they fought over 500 votes in one state! Not many thousands in many states. Recounts supposedly pick up a hundred votes or something tiny like that,

I have no doubt that Russia changed the voting results again in favor of Trump. What saved us was that they a) miscalculated the mail-in votes favoring Biden and b) focussed on states like FL instead of, say, PA.

Recounts can change the margin of an election by a few hundred votes. In a very close election it can matter.

This election isn't close. Biden leads Georgia by 14,000 votes.

Realistically we are going to be living in this hell until at least December 14th and probably until January 6th when Congress will certify the results.

Adding to r480

... and c) the mail-in votes were counted after the in person voting happened.

Adding to r480

... and c) the mail-in votes were counted after the in person voting happened.

It does seem plausible/likely that Collins benefited from her no vote on Amy Coney Barrett, as there weren't a lot of polls late in the race there.

Don't be terrified r474. I think it's already decided that this is all just a show and a bit of a joke. Republican Senators will continue to pretend they care, maybe through the Georgia runoff, but then they will instantly drop it and hustle the old grifter out the door as soon as possible. This is the phoniest coup in history.

Trump is in total scam mode right now. Anyone giving money to him is an utter fool. He is paying of campaign debts, lining his pockets and leaving others with the check.

He has done this for years with his businesses.

Meanwhile he has completely abrogated any governing for the next 70 days while people continue to get sick and/or die.

Florida Republican Senator Rick Scott is now spending a share of his fortune on helping Republicans in the ever so close pair of Georgia Senate Runoff Elections in January.

There is as much evidence that Russia "changed the votes" in 2016 as there is that there was widespread voter fraud in this election.

Both are baseless conspiracy theories from people who don't want to accept they lost an election.

We lost 2016. It was close, closer than this election, but we lost. Russia swayed through propaganda.

r50 the thing about abortion is, if you told the average pro-lifers that abortion would mainly mean fewer poor babies (i.e. fewer brown and black babies), they'd probably change their tune.

Republicans can take control of the House in 2022 on redistricting alone tbh

Trump is getting angry at senate GOP for not doing enough

Expect a lot more craziness these next few weeks

[quote][R461] Nyet Boris, the congress has a Democratic Party majority. No bonus of an extra helping of borscht for you!

Congress=Senate + House of Representatives. One of these does not have a Democratic majority.

Go back to high school.

Watch 'em run amok

catch 'em when they fall

Never know your luck when there's a free-for-all

Here a little doip

There a little touch

Most of them are goners so they won't miss much!

R489, I want to know why Russia hacked the voter rolls in 2016 and in 2020.

You don’t have to “change the vote count”, if you can just purge eligible voters from the official list. You accomplish the same thing.

So, why did they hack into the State voter registrations?

Texas LT Governor has offered $1 million to anyone who can produce proof of voter fraud

There really should be an investigation about what happened, say, in Florida or how McTurtle, concerned Collins, and La Senatrix won. Biden should play hardball. "Trump wants an investigation? Well, let us Liberals do ours. See how well the GOP likes it to look in their affairs and whatever we discover".

Remember, whatever a Republican accuses the opposition of, he is guilty of himself.

R497, STOP, JUST FUCKING STOP.

R489, the FBI warned the country this past spring that Russia was interfering with our elections, including hacking. There were articles about it. The FBI released a statement that you can still find on their website. Your ignorance and/or lazy propaganda will never change reality.

Did anyone watch Trump dying inside during the Vets day service at Arlington? It started to rain hard in the middle of the ceremony so it was not appropriate to get him an umbrella. The wet hairspray/shellac made his poof flatten and start to separate, you could see him cursing under his breath. It was fun to watch hopefully, there will be pictures of the chasm of bald on the back of his head posted soon.

Who is putting up that 1 million, r496?

Trump putting in Devin Nunes' cohorts in Pentagon leadership roles has an agenda. Don't dismiss the intentions for a Coup d'etat.

Their target: U.S. cities.

It's easy to pledge a million dollars to something one knows will never come true.

I pledge 1 million dollars to the first person to successfully resurrect Jon-Erik Hexum!

See?

It's not the anti-abortion stance of some folks that infuriates me [R490]. It's the rank hypocrisy of the Republican/"evangelical" gang. They don't want poor (black or white) women to have a choice, while Everyone knows their wives/mistresses/daughters/hook-ups are showing up in droves at their Cadillac insurance-covered doctor's office and getting a quick D&C scraping before making their tee time at the Club.... Sickening.

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The fear isn’t a military coup. It’s GOP state legislators using the “stolen election” as an excuse to put up their own electors because they’d argue “the results cannot be determined by the actual vote”

The PA GOP leader is already starting to cool on his comments about PA not doing that

This is very real and very scary

They could do a lot of things, but they won't. Not unless they want to plunge the country into an actual Civil War. Trump just isn't worth it.

When you take Trump out of the equation, the Repubs did quite well in this election. It's quite possible they'll keep the Senate, and they all know Biden is a moderate who can be worked with. Why would they burn the country down to support Don the Con's fantasy of being a two-term president? It doesn't make sense.

Also, down through history, all successful coups depended on the support of the military. The military hates Trump for his draft dodging and nasty comments about dead soldiers.

Stop with the hysteria, please.

Georgia, Arizona, and North Carolina need to get their counting done. We already know how Georgia and NC will be called.

Arizona is the suspect one to me. Every new count to state totals narrows the Biden lead.

It doesn't matter, though. Biden is already President, with or without Arizona.

[quote]The fear isn’t a military coup. It’s GOP state legislators using the “stolen election” as an excuse to put up their own electors because they’d argue “the results cannot be determined by the actual vote”

The Dems WILL challenge this in court where you can't BS on empty claims.

way back in this I read the phrase "Barr is weighing in...." I am sure that the scale broke. Barr, Pompeo ,Trump..... fatass losers. I was so happy on Saturday morning that I literally did that crying tears of joy thing that is a joke around here, but it was very real. And i ain't letting go of that.

Wonder if there will be a Black Friday discount?

[quote]Arizona is the suspect one to me. Every new count to state totals narrows the Biden lead.

But Trump is not keeping the pace he needs to catch up. As of last night he needs about 64% of the remaining votes to win. The percentage he needs keeps going up. Over the weekend he needed 58-59%. Monday he needed 62%. Now it's up to 64%, 46, 769 ballots remaining statewide.

Genuine question. Why does it take so long to do the counts? In the U.K. we have paper ballots which are counted by hand and the election is usually called by the time the night is out with the polls closing at 10 p.m. Even in Ireland where there is a PR system with single transferable vote it doesn’t take much longer.

It's a miracle Arizona is going blue even with Biden's indifference to the state. The slow counting is really doing a number on MAGA. lol

He was indifferent to Arizona

Biden spent a lot of money on tv ads in NC, but he only went there once this fall. Trump had about 14 rallies there since August

Why is GA doing a by hand recount? That seems more prone to cheating and mistakes.

[quote] Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, one of the biggest Trump boosters in Texas, says he'll pay up $1 million to encourage and reward those who report voter fraud. If info leads to arrest/ conviction for voter fraud. expect at least $25,000, he says.

Hey, Governor Patrick- it’s your counterpart in Pennsylvania.

I’d like to collect your handsome reward for reporting voter fraud.

I got a dude in Forty Fort, PA who tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump.

I’d like mine in Sheetz gift cards pls.

ps. The Cowboys blow.

The Prospect's David Dayen:

Democrats stole the election to lose 10-12 House seats and pick up no state legislatures or gubernatorial races, it's all there if you just look.

Democrats should be upset

ELECTION 2020 Part 22

For when we need it.

Thread 17 is a DL classic: when the 2020 election was finally called!

I hope Moscow Mitch gets riddled with the most painful cancer known to mankind. Then after weeks of suffering I hope he has a heart attack and a brain embolism at the same time

R522 I'd almost forgotten about the stupid conspiracy theories people were spouting about why they didn't call PA until they did, even though a perfectly logical reason (the recount/.5% issue) having been given.

[quote] Marco Rubio’s Senate staff is attacking me today because I tweeted this. So please watch and retweet. It really hurts them.

This whole thing with Trump reminds of what happened with our office President last year when he was ousted: he sulked, stamped his feet, tried to organize supporters; in the end he slunk away, clearing out his office in the night.

Allowing Bernie to be a serious contender for the Party nomination has a high cost to Democrats’ ability to win in Florida, NC, Texas, and rural areas. You can’t have prominent socialists in the Party and expect to win these states.

The FBI blatantly said that Russia did hack into voting machines in Florida in 2016. They did not say if votes were changed.

We know that little money or thought has gone into election security since then. You can do the math on that one.

We need to move back to a paper ballot system. I trust the mail votes far more than I trust the in person votes.

And I don't believe that Trump will win Arizona . I was nervous about it late last week, but he is not getting the balance he needs to take the lead. The margin is going to be very close though.

I am far more heartened by the results in Georgia. It looked like Biden might win by a thousand votes or fewer. That isn't the case.

Oh I should also mention in our office at the time (R526 here) there was an attempt at a firing which got nixed by the VP and a rather lame attempt to sabotage the office insurance.

I've seen this play out in real time with my own eyes on a smaller level.

R527 That's one of the dumbest arguments I've heard over this election, congratulations.

[quote]if you told the average pro-lifers that abortion would mainly mean fewer poor babies (i.e. fewer brown and black babies), they'd probably change their tune.

Or if they had to pay for the children moms are not able to support.

There has to be a way to stop this before we get to the point where congress will disagree on the results and not certify the electors votes right? Twitter has had me in a fucking panic today

R532, SHUT THE FUCK UP.

R533, tell me, how do you stay so calm? :-)

I don’t think any of this would be happening if not for the GA Senate runoff races. (And of course Trump being a crazy vengeful bitch). I am hoping people in government start walking out and being very public about this attempt to “burrow” Trump loyalists into government. The Republicans have gone mad. They have full on tied themselves to a reality show host. If by some miracle Dens win both seats in GA, Biden can actually get things done and clean up the mess. I totally will donate to help Dems in GA.

The answer to our prayers: "Mississippi Republican calls for his state to ‘succeed from the union’ after Biden victory" Two less repub senators!

^^^ "succeed" ???

Not much in Mississippi is successful.

At this point Biden should just call trump and tell him he won’t be prosecuted after this. ANYTHING to end this nightmare.

R258 nice try Donald.

No one is gong to stop Mississippi from leaving. What are they gonna do? They are last in everything and rely on the federal government for everything. Let 'em go.

[quote]At this point Biden should just call trump and tell him he won’t be prosecuted after this. ANYTHING to end this nightmare.

That idiot not conceding or releasing transition funds has not stopped Biden and his team one single bit. If he wants to go out like a punk, let him.

A message. for Donald J. Trump

My theory and I am sure I’m not the only one with that theory is that Trump does all this and has been doing this (undermining of the postal votes) to deflect and distract the narrative away from the issue that he/they rigged the electronics of the in-person votes.

The postal ballots could not be electronically manipulated which is why for many months Trump has been trying to discredit this whole system.

Idaho

There is going to be less than 900k overall votes cast in the 2020 elections. It is much less during midterms. The Dems need around 267k new voters to take over the state.

Well if Trump rigged electronic votes it was not done very well, since he lost both the popular vote and the electoral college by significant margins.

Trump ruins everything he touches, R544.

[quote]There is going to be less than 900k overall votes cast in the 2020 elections.

Oh, dear.

I agree that this is about the Senate. If those run-off races weren't happening, the Republicans wouldn't be humoring Trump in this. But they've got to keep their base fired up.

Fewer *

What’s odd to me is that I think they’re base would be more fired up to vote to come out to “put a check on the Biden administration”. But what do I know. None of this shit makes sense and it’s scary.

[quote]What’s odd to me is that I think they’re base would be more fired up to vote to come out

Oh, dear.

It just infuriates me that AOC can't play politics, keep her head down and do the work without setting us up for fire like this. Talk about your useful IDIOT!

[quote] Ronna McDaniel @GOPChairwoman

[quote] AOC’s answer should terrify anyone who opposes defunding the police, a govt takeover of health care, & the Green New Deal.

[quote] She says if Dems win in #GASen, they “don’t have to negotiate” at all with Rs.

[quote] We need @Perduesenate & @KLoeffler in the Senate to stop her radical agenda!

She might be a plant r551

AOC really needs to shut her mouth. She hasn’t shut up since election night

AOC is tone-deaf. She doesn't seem to understand that Democrats have bigger problems to worry about right now. Such as an attempted coup.

R550, I’m thinking that there are those who use there or their or they’re randomly knowing that they’ll be correct one-third of the time. And that’s good enough for them.

I'm sure this has already been posted, but I loved it and I don't care.

An absolutely lovely statement from Angela Merkel given during remarks on the anniversaries of Kristallnacht and the fall of the Berlin Wall. She then segues into the US support for German reunification, and then offers her congratulations to Biden and Harris. You can tell she likes Biden a lot.

Thank you for posting that.

over in the UK ... that 'previous president'

Big fat pig Ronna McDaniel accidentally tweeted acknowledging that Biden won lol!

See this is my point. Their best argument for GA is to “bring a check on Biden” but they can’t use it because they have to pretend that Biden hasn’t won yet to soothe trumps ego

If you want to see what happens when world leaders get their first good night's sleep in four years, CBS has a compilation of people congratulating Biden. NZ PM Jacinda Ardern in particular looks like she wants to do a backflip.

Well, in that screen cap she looks like a mummy.

[quote]how do you stay so calm

U.S. military

Senate GOP is starting to crack

Apparently, there's at least one sane Republican in Arizona .. and it happens to be the state's Attorney General.

^^^ He also says no evidence of fraud.

In AZ Biden has 49.4% of the votes and Trump has 49.1% of the votes. Trump will so demand a recount to stall.

[quote]She says if Dems win in #GASen, they “don’t have to negotiate” at all with Rs.

I agree. The Republic Senate has done nothing but harm us. We don't need to compromise or negotiate with any of them if we get to control the Senate.

What part of her statement do you not understand R551?

Eight Immediate plans for Day One:

--Re-join Paris Accord

--Immigration Bill protecting Dreamers

--Reverse 100 public health and enviormental rules

--Voting Rights Act

--Corporate Tax increase

--Repeal the Muslim Ban

--Begin uniting kids separated at the boarder

--COVID plan (already underway)

It doesn't matter what Trump does in Arizona. Biden does not need it to go over 270. Once Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are certified, it's over

Some guys really have this weird obsession that AOC has the apparent power to actually bring down the Democratic Party by being worse than Hitler & Trump combined. Really dudes, get over your obsessive hate of AOC.

r567 I agree with you, but why give Rs ammunition with which to use, say like in GA runoffs? Sometimes it's best to keep your hand close to your chest

[quote] Trump will so demand a recount to stall.

Not unless he can pull within 3200-3300 votes. In that case the recount is automatic. There is no provision in Arizona statute for a candidate to request a recount.

Trump must be beyond despondent. The fact he may get the same EV as Hillary must be driving him nuts.

Trump will take credit by demanding a recount even though everybody knows it's an automated process. That's typical Trump.

It's not that she (AOC) has so much power - she doesn't. And she's entitled to her views, her constituency elected her and her progressive platform so of course that's what she's going to espouse and support.

But in this careful time during the transition, with so much confusion and turmoil - never mind two major key Senate races in GA for Dems to win - she's be better off holding her fire until after Jan 20th. She is a highly visible, publicly popular figure with a huge platform on soc media, one that transcends what most of her colleagues has. The media covers her more than most, and people amplify her statements. It would help if she kept her cool and didn't stoke up the far-right loons with talk of "no collaboration" at this moment. Just keep it on an even keel right now.

has= have in r575 above.

Exactly, R571.

Also, this:

[quote] This isn’t about ideology, it is about power. Ideology is the thin veil. Its why Bernie ppl hated Warren despite her pushing the same platform. This is a group of ppl who believe they should hold power and are mad they don’t. Its not about messaging or ideology, wins or losses

I never thought little Arizona would end up becoming so important to the MAGA movement. It's their last stand [in their mind] before defeat. Problem is they already lost it. Arizona has two Democratic Senators and voted for the Democrat.

[quote] But in this careful time during the transition, with so much confusion and turmoil - never mind two major key Senate races in GA for Dems to win - she's be better off holding her fire until after Jan 20th.

The "don't rock the boat!" strategy doesn't work on Republicans. They, and the right wing media, will come up with some bogus accusation to justify their actions against the opposition.

Just look at the lies about Hunter Biden and his supposed illegal foreign dealings.

I rather prefer someone like AOC play hardball than lay low, because that's what Republicans see as weakness, and then they start pouncing. They are cowards through and through.

[quote]But in this careful time during the transition, with so much confusion and turmoil - never mind two major key Senate races in GA for Dems to win - she's be better off holding her fire until after Jan 20th

Nahhh, she needs to fire up the base and get them to the voting boot. MAGA will not have the incentive to go vote with Trump out. This is the perfect time to go for the jugular.

I've lived in three different areas of Georgia. The Democrats need to focus hard on turnout throughout the state. The two Atlanta area Democratic Senatorial candidates can't just focus on Atlanta and the city's suburbs and expect to win. Strong efforts have to be made in Savannah, Augusta, Columbus, Valdosta, Albany, Macon/Warner Robbins, Rome, Athens, Milledgeville, Brunswick, and the smaller towns throughout the State.

Talk to farmers, small business owners, seniors, college students, and white blue collar men and women. They won't receive the majority of the white vote; but receiving a couple+ percentage points more of them could be the determining difference.

The turnout of black voters must be heavy. Black women vote. Black men have to get the polls in record numbers.

^get to the plls

polling sites^

I would imagine Pete Buttigieg could be a viable asset reaching out to (young) voters in Georgia if non-locals are allowed to do that.

I would imagine Pete Buttigieg could be a viable asset reaching out to (young) voters in Georgia if non-locals are allowed to do that.

President-elect Joe Biden will name Ron Klain, a longtime Democratic operative and close confidant, as his chief of staff as early as tomorrow morning.

[quote] Mr. Klain, a lawyer with deep experience on Capitol Hill, advising President Barack Obama and in corporate board rooms, has been seen for months as the likeliest choice to manage Mr. Biden’s team in the White House. Known for steady nerves, he also has a fierce wit, which he has frequently unleashed on President Trump on Twitter.

[quote] The choice of Mr. Klain, who first went to work for Mr. Biden in 1989 when Mr. Biden was a senator from Delaware and Mr. Klain was a recent graduate of Harvard Law School, signals that Mr. Biden intends to rely on a tight circle of Washington insiders who have been by his side for years.

[quote] As a political tactician, Mr. Klain is well versed in the levers of power in both the executive and legislative branches of government.

As predicted here by those in the know, r586. A great choice.

New batch of Arizona votes increases Biden's lead slightly to 12, 828:

One thing I noticed from every swing district republican commercial- they consistently say the same talking points burnishing the republican brand, painting conservatism in a positive light (good propaganda words used), and denigrating liberals by painting liberalism negatively. Same swing district- The Dem only talks of compromise and extols being moderate or doesn’t mention ideology at all.

Dems have got to go after conservatism. It doesn’t work, never has, and is actively detrimental to our way of life.

It’s no wonder conservatives have an easier time with messaging- they don’t have to say much to make their point. It has been drilled into our heads for decades.

LOL! The lawyers are bailing.

And Channel 12 adds "Phoenix-based Snell is largest law firm on Trump's team. Has also repped AZ GOP govs. It didn't just 'withdraw': Lawsuit filed Saturday, firm bailed out Sunday, per docs.

Keep rocking Arizona. I'm enjoying the slow burn of Biden's victory in Arizona. MAGA tears taste mmmm delicious.

[quote]Maybe Jacoby & Meyers is available?

"If you've got a phone, you've got a lawyer!"

But I thought Pete was going to be Chief of Staff?

Right Wing Newsmax which is owned by Trump’s friend Chris Ruddy

[quote] “To avoid all this unpleasantness President Trump should retire immediately and let Mike Pence concede the election, occupy the White House and handle the transition”

[quote] A few months in, the White House could give Pence a head start on securing the Republican nomination in 2024. Giving him this opportunity would be a gracious reward for his undivided loyalty to Trump during the last three and a half years.

[quote] Whether you see Pence as an unscrupulous opportunist or as a sincere idealist doing an unpleasant but necessary job, there can be no doubt that he is well-prepared to fill in as president.

Georgia dems want the Obamas. down there.

Obama can go back to Georgia to campaign for the Senate candidates. Joe and Kamala making a trip each wouldn't hurt. Pete could help with targeted areas. He is an excellent campaigner.

Bernie and AOC? No, not in Georgia.

Also, find some "southern" musicians to help. Quite a few have roots in Georgia.

Pete will be Secretary of State.

[quote]The lawyers are bailing.

Trump better call Saul.

[quote]Begin uniting kids separated at the boarder

Oh, dear.

Maybe Pete can be the White House Social Secretary.

Obama had Jeremy Mill Bernard.