Hate to Burst Your Bubbles Tonight, but....DL Favorite The Lincoln Project Sounds the Alarm on a Trump Coup Attempt

Bubble's not bursting.

He can try but it's getting further and further away from any possible grasp, the more President-elect Biden moves into the presidency.

Where is Donald's support?

Then they underestimate the crowd that'll be waiting for him if he tries a coup. Today outside of the WH was NOTHING compared to the unholy hell waiting for him if he doesn't leave peacefully. He has hardcore believers and 70M may have voted for him, but when it comes to actually taking to the streets, our side can steamroll over the hardcore MAGAts.

Mark my words.

Not going to happen. It has been a peaceful day. He is losing support.

I live the use of the jolly roger flag.

love*

Others have pointed out as well that all of the other G7 leaders and most other heads of state have issued congratulations to Biden & Harris, thus giving them considerable legitimacy. That very well will be taken into consideration by anyone who is left in his orbit with a shred of common sense.

[quote]Trump's purpose in all of his useless, doomed to failure lawsuits isn't about overturning the election result in court. It's about setting a narrative that the election was fraudulent and that either the electoral college and/or congress should disregard the results to install him for another term.

Everybody's already aware of this because he's basically been declaring it for weeks, if not months.

I love this comment from OP's link:

[quote]JayVee@Ulfhirtha As a friend notes "Anyone hoping for a peaceful transition has never had to pull a toddler out of a Chuck E. Cheese."

Exactly, R7. We've been expecting it for at least a year or two. It's easier to imagine him attempting a coup than leaving peacefully. Trust that everyone who needs to be prepared is preparing.

He's obviously massing his true-believer foot soldiers. Over on Free Republic there are people saying they are "standing by" with their guns and waiting for the word from their true commander-in-chief to back him up.

Not that I think it's likely to go anywhere. I think most of them are paper tigers.

Didn’t the Supreme Court rule that electors are not fee agents? These people are sad and desperate. He lost because he sucks. Let it go.

The grifters are desperate to milk their cash cow one more time.

Suckers.

It’s only disturbing that so many people now are so delusional. They can’t do this. It would cause a constitutional crisis and arrests.

[quote] Over on Free Republic there are people saying they are "standing by" with their guns and waiting for the word from their true commander-in-chief to back him up.

Kind of hard to do it when you're 100lbs overweight, your heart is weakened from untreated dental issues, and you have to lug an oxygen tank behind you everywhere.

Plus even without all the pending legal problems and indictments facing Trump now, think about hsi financial situation when he leaves and also all the perks he's losing - the motorcades, the mass of syncophants, unfettered attention and access to media - it will all be gone and he truly feels he deserves those things permanently. If he doesn;t go to jail he is going to be bankrupt shortly.

That gypsy family could not care less about the damage they inflict. How their disgusting supporters can't see these grifters aren't patriotic in the least unless there's money to be made from being FAUX patriotic, is beyond me.

There has never been a group of stupider, hateful, bigoted, racist garbage than deplorables. Sickos.

Didn’t flamingo Lindsey Graham suggest this on Fox News? It’s very sad that the Republicans can’t accept defeat and are trying to suggest coups. Trump is a complete dick. He was just voted out. You would think he was Jesus to then. Get a grip.

[quote]That very well will be taken into consideration by anyone who is left in his orbit with a shred of common sense.

So -- no one then?

There are only two governors who a re Republican, in this scenario. Georgia and Arizona. They can order their Electors to vote for Trump, but it won't matter. Since Biden got PA he doesn't need them. He has no standing in the current batch of legal cases asshole Rudy had filed. And the most important thing is, since Joe won the correct number of electoral votes, Even with the recount of Georgia Biden is ahead there by 9200 votes, no path exists even for a coup. What is really cool, is that our NATO allies can come to our rescue if we need them, now that Biden is in place.

This is the problem. Everyone around Trump is a toady who won’t tell him to admit defeat. Plus he actively likes the attention from being a total dick.

R17 The Senatrice is suggesting it because that is the plan and it's been the plan for months. See, this article from The Atlantic.

I'm standing by with my gun and I'll go to war for donald!

I agree. I don’t think this coup idea works when Biden potentially has 306 electoral votes.

Keep very close watch to their actions and the ambiguity of their words. The head of the PA legislature may have said that they can't install electors, but not only are they quoted in that Atlantic article explicitly stating that it is one of their options, but they are laying the groundwork to justify it as we speak. "Auditing" the election is codeword for "the election was handled with fraud and should be disregarded." There's a number of other tricks they are pulling in other states, including Michigan and Nevada, that I won't post here, but the point of this coup plot is to make it seem like Trump and his fascist minions either can't do it or are incapable of doing it. Underestimating him or dismissing the threat is exactly what he wants. Hence, why the Lincoln Project sounded the alarm the way they did. I just hope the Biden people are paying attention. They need more than lawyers to stop this. They need people power too.

This is really nothing to ‘worry’ about. He will go. The court cases will fizzle very quickly; he hasn’t a leg to stand on. Eventually all the prominent Republicans who are currently supporting his legal efforts, etc., will have to concede that there is no electoral fraud and he’ll have to go.

I mean, seriously. This isn’t a thing that we need to lose sleep over.

Is the PA House Speaker really prepared to destroy this country for one ignorant clown and his Fascistic desires? Really?

[quote]Others have pointed out as well that all of the other G7 leaders and most other heads of state have issued congratulations to Biden & Harris, thus giving them considerable legitimacy.

Agree, that's a considerable knee-capping.

R23 Read the Atlantic article. He doesn't need to throw multiple state elector rolls into chaos. He just needs one to force congress to intervene. Another thing that Democrats need to make absolutely sure is that, with Nancy Pelosi losing seats this election, that Democrats 100% keep the Speaker gavel. If slime like Kevin McCarthy, who is parroting Trump's ridiculous "voter fraud" talking points, can poach conservative Democrats to give him the gavel (like the GOP did in New York with the "Independent Democratic Caucus" in the state senate) and McConnell keeps the senate, then they can install Trump unilaterally, no questions asked. Best advice politically is to make sure that the Democrats 100% win the Georgia senate runoff elections and stop all the squabbling amongst each other in the House to make sure Pelosi retains the speakership. Not securing that gives Trump an opportunity to be installed for another term.

Agree. I also think the Biden team are 100% on it. They will not assume anything with Trump and his ugly toadies: Rudy, Miss Lindsey, Jim Jordan, Kellyanne, etc. these are all ugly deceiving people.

R26 Yes, he is.

Not that it hasn’t already been pointed out, but once again:

PA 20 EV.

Biden’s projected total win 306.

(306) - (20) = 286

The PA gop leader has already said this isn’t going to happen.

Trump will end up conceding in his own way.

Above all Trump is a coward who loves comfort and satisfying his appetites. He has no interest or stomach for violence. This is pure fantasy by his psychotic followers. Trump loves to skirt the law and covertly break the law, but he certainly would never do anything that might invite a law enforcement person to physically handle him.

R30, then I'd be glad to send a case of D Batteries to people in Philly. They know what to do.

If they try and do a coup they should be shot.

Fucking ridiculous fantasies.

Donald is finished. It's all over but the whining and years of self-pity.

R28, that is a fever dream. Never in a million years.

And if anyone wants to make a bet—with real money—we can dust off the old Bet Buddy site or whatever it’s called and you concern trolls can put up or shut up. This. Is. Never. Going. To. Happen.

OP go away and stop with all the fearmongering.

The Lincoln project is a grift that cons money from liberals and doom porn like this just lines their pockets. There is zero chance of this happening. Zero. In a few days once the legal wells run dry trump will acknowledge that he will not win. He won’t admit defeat, but it’s over.

Thanks R32! If there's one thing the GOP is known for, it's honesty!

Is the OP a Trump troll? “Hate to Burst Your Bubbles Tonight” is a curious choice of words.

You know, we can impeach him again.

By the way if you want to make some money, Trump trolls, you can buy in for REAL CHEAP on Predict It. There’s still an election bet going on. Choose Trump for chump change, make a lotta money. Bet your life savings!!! DO IT.

Republicans listen to their donors and the CEOs. Wall st is not going to tell them to start a literal civil war in the middle of a pandemic. The business community has already moved on. It’s over for dump

Republicans laughed when Jill Stein asked for recounts. Now they are 10 times worse. And the fanaticism for Trump is deeply disturbing.

Denmark also congratulates (legitimizes) Biden-Harris

[quote]There's a number of other tricks they are pulling in other states, including Michigan and Nevada, that I won't post here,

Oh, I hope I have my tin hat just like yours when you finally do.

"Over on Free Republic there are people saying they are "standing by" with their guns and waiting for the word from their true commander-in-chief to back him up."

Yeah, everyone is a tough guy on the internet.

R47, you didn't hear? Deplorable morons were claiming glitches in machines in MI were turning Trump votes into Biden ones. No actual proof, just Hannity telling them so.

I'm not sure that was even the story, R49. It was more like Michigan uses the same kind of machines that had a glitch in another state and they're trying to make something of it in Michigan where it didn't happen.

It's not going anywhere but they can pay for the lawsuit if they want.

Every single member in the GOP knows there was no fraud. They know Biden is the president elect. They’re letting trump throw his tantrum because they need him for 2022. They know nothing will change the results. They are not about to stage a coup and end America forever. Moscow Mitch got his judges, his Supreme Court, likely his senate majority. He doesn’t need Trump anymore.

Sources close to President Trump told FOX News he plans to graciously concede and commit to a peaceful transfer of power, if the campaign's legal challenges fail to open up a path for a second term.

No coup.

R47 Fuck off.

R50 There are multiple conspiracy theories, from the Michigan machines gave Biden more illegal votes to the software used in swing states was owned in part by Nancy Pelosi to people are illegally voting in Nevada to there are dead voters on the rolls in Pennsylvania voting. It's not about whether it's legitimate or not (it's all bullshit). It's about whether his base believes it and whether they put sufficient pressure on the GOP lawmakers in these states to cave to their pressure. Remember, many of these people are armed. Standing up to them is easier said than done.

[quote]graciously concede

LOL, no he won't! If this is true that he will concede after all else fails, then that motherfucker will do what he always does: GO OFF SCRIPT and play victim. Whatever "gracious" speech they write for him will either be totally ignored or partially-ignored where he starts reading something that makes him look "normal," but then the crazy starts to seep out and he goes full shithead - every time.

Yeah, still not afraid, R53, but you’re welcome to sweat over it.

Trump is such a narcissistic freak he wants the attention on him. He doesn’t care if the lawsuits give his supporters false hope or lead to violence. He is hoping of course for chaos and any opening he can exploit. Until he has everyone exhausted and has wasted a ton of money then he will concede.

His idiot base believes lizard people live next door.

They are completely unhinged and cannot think for themselves. Like fucking zombies and just as persistent and just as easy to dismiss.

It's all over but the tantrums.

This clown show couldn’t pull a coup out of their ass

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. They couldn't even fake a laptop and pass it off as real for more than 5 minutes. How the fuck are they going to pull off a coup?

“This is the new acting head of the coup. The official head of the coup resigned when Trump demanded sharks with “laser beams”.

I sort of wish he’d topple down the stairs about now.

LOL Simmer down, OP. Trump's term expires at noon on Jan 20th. Even if he decides to muck up the election with lawsuits he doesn't automatically get to stay in power past that. Even Fox legal experts claim that without proof of systemic fraud, not episodic glitches he doesn't stand a chance. And proving systemic fraud is pretty near impossible. He's out. We need a poll to guess how it's gonna be done though.

It’s not just Trump, it never was about just him, the men who put him in power, men like Robert Mercer are what the fight is about. This is all about Mercer keeping power through Trump who has no scruples which suits Mercer’s preferences very well. It’s all about dismantling the government which also suits Mercer’s and some other Oligarchs very well. They want to restructure everything to give them unlimited power, they have a really good start wouldn’t you say? They want to finish the job.

If Trump actually listens and concedes you can bet something remarkable, like an offer he couldn’t refuse, was put before him. Cause Mercer owns him and it would take a lot to get him to sever that tie.

His sadism and general meanness will keep him alive for at least another 72 days.

That just made me heave a huge, sad sigh.

hahahaha.. ONLY SEVENTY TWO DAYS! It's been four fucking years and now there's just 72 days left.

Wow. Two and a half months - that's it.

OP since your threads are scripted and contrived, here's a term you can use in your next thread. You probably won't understand what it is as they are two big words: faithless elector. And it's not going to happen.

Biden won. Get over it.

I think the fear is that they would conspire to get electors to not follow the will of the people, or that Congress members would ask to challenge the electoral college votes. Both seem very unlikely and would cause massive damage to democracy.

Like what kind of offer, R63?

Because Trump is leaving, whether he wants to or not, and whether he formally concedes or not. He has NO bargaining power here. NONE.

And Murdoch does not control the US government. He is very powerful and sickeningly influential and damaging to this country. But he does not get to decide if Biden can move into the WH, and he will not play any role in it.

If they did this, states would secede from the union. It would be the end of America. They’re not going to do this. They’re just letting Trump have his tantrum. Even Fox News is reporting that aides are saying Trump will concede, in his own way, if the legal challenges don’t pan out. The Lincoln project is a grift that raised $70 million and has nothing to show for it

It’s a legitimate concern, but if they try this, they have to know what kind of hornet’s nest they’d be kicking. They’d (hopefully) be dragged out of their offices and beaten to death in the streets.

[quote] Trump's term expires at noon on Jan 20th. Even if he decides to muck up the election with lawsuits he doesn't automatically get to stay in power past that.

You clearly didn’t read the article.

All indications are that Moscow Mitch is glad to be rid of Trump while still having his majority and having filled all the judge seats he possibly could. He’s not gonna go out on a limb for him. And Murdoch already called him to tell him to have the gop chill out. It’s over

FF all these bullshit threads. Biden won and that’s that. Can we have ONE fucking day on DL where people can actually enjoy something and be happy?

Kellyanne:

2016: 306 was a historic landslide

2020: (also 306): we have to count all the legal votes

Just as the President-elect said, the United States government knows how to remove trespassers from the White House.

It doesn't matter what the Atlantic says. Donald has lost, he isn't going to get it back. It's over.

Someone in the Project Lincoln twitter replies is calling them out for being attention seekers, and scaring people about a very unlikely scenario.

The replacement of elector slates is easier said than done. Each party have their elector slate, and if Biden wins, the Democratic elector slate cast the votes of the state. Individual Dem electors could be faithless (happened to Hillary in 2016) but faithless electors haven't overturned the elector slate votes.

And in this case, the Repubs have to engineer the replacing of a party's slate with another party's - or to pressure most Democratic electors to switch - in more than one state, and that's too unlikely.

I also think they are perhaps overreacting but a US Senator (Miss Lindsey) suggested it in Fox News so they are putting it out there to the fanatics.

Remember to drag and beat her

Sources close to President Trump told FOX News he plans to graciously concede and commit to a peaceful transfer of power, if the campaign's legal challenges fail to open up a path for a second term.

No coup.

Here is the spokesperson in his previous career.

Nothing is going to happen. There is no rioting in the streets or burning down buildings tonight. I was out and the mood was celebratory. There is just no way anyone could give him Biden the presidency and the revoke it, even if there was fraud. The country will burn. If there was any legitimate avenues, they would have held off. The entire world is watching. Sleepy Joe here we come!

R9, Do they think they are the only ones who own guns?

With Sleepy Joe, we'll finally be able to go to sleep without obsessing over the latest tweets, firings, scandals or palace intrigues.

Yes, they think they are the only ones that own guns in America.

Math is not their strong suit.

The armed forces don't support him. There will be no coup.

Exactly, R81. I think Trump was an easy disappointment to get over, since the Republicans kept the majority. My friends and I who voted for Trump are happy because we don't have to deal with the negatives that come with Trump while still holding on to the tax cuts. That's why the stock market isn't cratering. If it was a blue wave we would have been fucked.

Sadly I could see a rapid Trump Congress person challenging the certification of electoral college votes. There are crazy QAnon types in there now. Doesn’t it only take 1 person from each chamber to challenge it?

This is where I have to agree with someone saying on Twitter (think it was Joel Kim Booster) that "The Lincoln Project is like the Shaun King of Projects" ...

I mean we WILL remain vigilant and Biden most definitely has the greatest lawyers in the country (much better than Dump & Co.) but like.... nah at this

R67 I didn’t say Murdoch.

I said ROBERT MERCER.

You should look him up, he gave Trump the money to get in office the first term and his ideologies are what Trump was implementing along with some of Sheldon Adelsons politics. Billionaires run the world, not politicians, the Oligarchs get to hide behind those they get in office. They dictate whatever destruction they wish so they can have power and continued wealth.

Enlist congressional allies to challenge the certification of Biden electors

Before the Electoral College tally becomes final, the vote must be certified by the newly seated Congress on Jan. 6.

If Republicans manage to hang on to the Senate — a fact that won’t be known until Jan. 5, and possibly later — Trump might be able to recruit allies in both chambers to contest electoral votes from states that he has baselessly accused of committing rampant fraud against him.

All it takes is one lawmaker’s objection each in the House and Senate to contest certain electoral votes. And those challenges are then debated and decided separately by the House and Senate.

The House, still controlled by Democrats, would be certain to reject such challenges. And Senate Republicans have given no indication they would back such an effort. But if such an objection occurred and the branches split along partisan lines, Congress would enter a constitutional gray area.

It’s unclear what happens to disputed electors if Congress deadlocks. But one school of thinking is that the contested electors are simply removed from the count, reducing the number of votes required to win the presidency.

House Democrats challenged the electoral vote count in 2000, with outgoing Vice President Al Gore, who had lost to George W. Bush, presiding over the Senate. But no senators joined the call to launch a formal deliberation. A similar scene played out in 2016, with Biden standing on the House’s rostrum.

This time, it would be Vice President Mike Pence fielding any objections that might arise from Republicans, and it remains to be seen whether he would issue a similar pronouncement.

The grifters of the LP trying to prolong the grift.

But the economy always does better when a Democrat is in office r84. The biggest crashes have always been during Republican administrations no?

The five stages of grief are:

denial.

anger.

bargaining.

depression.

acceptance.

R84, One word: Georgia.

I love the Lincoln Project. I happily gave them lots of money.

If they get busy in the Georgia races, I'll give them more.

This bullshit about how Trump can pull this that or the other, it's coming from the rumor mills and the crazies. The extremists may be yammering about it but they have no chance.

I really cannot see Mike Pence staging a coup in Congress. He is already severing ties with Trump. And it’s a really hard sell to get the entire Republican Senate to back a coup.

Erik Prince v. the real military? He'd be dead meat in a couple hours.

The Russians seem to think the military would support him, but I don't.

Jared Kushner, President Donald Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, has approached the President about conceding the election, two sources tell CNN.

The military has too much to lose in a country that doesn't really need them.

Has anyone built a mock replica of that ESSO Station in Milan , Italy ?

there was talk of this happening for Hillary four years ago; in reality, I think one person switched their vote, but from Hillary to Trump.

My God, he's TOAST! it's finally sinking in; yippeee!!!

Jared Kushner will be regarded by historians as the key figure in the fifth column in the Trump presidency. Sources are saying he is the one who is responsible for the fucked up post-election legal strategy.

The purpose of the lawsuit blitz is explained here.

Are they plotting the coup over at Four Seasons Landscaping?

Or was that a clever ruse?

Seriously, OP, I'm tired of feeling frightened. Just for tonight I'm going to feel happy. Sorry about that!

Crap. We have only four years to get him in prison for tax fraud and racketeering or he's going to try to run again in 2024!!!! C'mon IRS, do your thang!!!!

When are Lindsey's rentboys going to out the muthafauker?

I can’t see a coup but I can see Republicans wrapping Trump in a flag and giving him the hero send off, never mentioning anything bad about him.

R103 You can celebrate on inauguration day.

Yep, I will.

There is not going to be a coup. I wouldn't it put the past the Trumpist of Repugs to try something or at least talk about it, but not going to happen. Trump and his pigs thought that talking up this fraudulent election bullshit would get his supporters out into the streets....it hasn't happened. In fact, outside of a few patches of tiny protests outside of a couple of swing states nothing has happened. I mean, all Donald has to do is look out the White House window, the place is surrounded by people celebrating his loss. Those who still think the election was rigged are holding on to a pipe dream.

Biden's team and the Democrats at large have been ready for Trump to try and pull something. They knew could happen if Trump didn't win or if it was much closer. Even the media made us wait an agonizing extra two days to ensure there was no way mathematically that Trump could win so that he couldn't accuse them of shit. Reality is, if they try and get faithless electors or try to over turn the EC result (Trump would have to turn a lot of fucking people) or PA tries to change the elector process (which the Supreme Court has already ruled it's illegal to change any election laws retroactively) it will only result in more pressure to remove the EC once and for all. the EC is the only way the GOP have to win presidential elections.

Also, the fact Trump has not Tweeted in hours means he's either dead or been pacified. He will not admit defeat publicly. He will slip out of the country on January 21 and live out the rest of his life in Russia or Saudi Arabia.

I just booked my room and flight to be in DC on the 19th. Who else is going? We should have a Meet-Up©

[quote] I just booked my room and flight to be in DC on the 19th.

No, you didn't.

I think I’ll be going, R110. I would especially love to meet some of the Trump trolls/concern trolls from this site in person.

Trolls like those responsible for these posts:

[quote]Just don't go crying for the next 6 months when they're proven right again (as they have been in every previous US election). —Man up DL. Biden was too old 4 some voters....

[quote]Trump +2 in Florida in the ABC poll. Told you all. Trump is going to win

[quote] It’s over if Biden doesn’t win FL. Cause that mean he lost NC and GA. It’s all about FL. Liberals cry.

[quote] we know all the people that are so sure of a Biden victory and call anyone who disagrees with them a Russian troll (that’s part of your problem right there btw) won’t be anywhere to be seen come next week after the loss. In fact, most already believe that if it happens it will be because it is stolen and illegitimate.

[quote] Biden isn’t winning shit. DL is going to be shocked when it discovers just how fucking evil the US is.

[quote] Trump just won the election with the release of the GDP number.

[quote] Trump landslide and also taking the House and keeping the Senate. Amish & Mennonites out in full force to vote a straight Red ticket. They're not counted in polls but they have thousands of voters in multiple Swing states.

Just some of my favorites from the election predictions thread. Would love to see you cunts in person.

Just watched Biden's speech for the second time. It was brilliant. Ding Dong Donald's Dead.

Trump just wants a pardon. A full pardon because the loser is going to end up in prison for tax fraud

Pardon won't help that bitch, because Letitia is waiting...

trump's stupid website still let's you request a ballot to vote

And they gave out yard signs for free

yes, I did r111, now shut it. For those planning, you know the rooms are going to be scarce and expensive. My usual place, Eldon Suites is booked the whole week already and you have have to book at least 12 nights! I'm only staying 3 nights and preparing for the worst. I hope it's not too chaotic. Luckily, may airlines are waiving canceling fees. Last time I booked through Hotels.com they cancel my reservations 'due to Covid,' but I suspect they found they could get a higher price and cancelled mine low rate. I had to scramble to find another room downtown, luckily the Moxy had some rooms. That is gay friendly but the rooms are small. i think it's called a micro-tel. And now, rates already are getting expensive, $350-$800 for decent rooms, Downtown D.C. for that week. Start booking, now, gurls!

See you there, r12!

I'll save my money for when Mayor Pete is in the White House. I am thrilled to just trust Biden is doing the right thing and taking a media cleanse for a while. He's fine, but nothing exciting or inspiring other than he's not Trump. Obama's 2008 inauguration would be the only other event I'd have been interested up to this point.

The grifting Neocon useless idiot operation served it's purpose. Fank You for your service. GO AWAY

O dear on a bunch.

R95, A consummation devoutly to be wished.

R109, He ain't going to Russia! Trump is terrified of the water there!

And Saudi Arabia harbor the Jewish Kushners who will no longer have access to Top Secret info? I don't think so!

DJT faces disgrace, divorce, debt, dementia, and death.

I drove past the local gun store today in Southern Maryland. It's a newly rebuilt building, due to a fire, larger and stand alone. It has a substantial size parking lot, that even has parking in the rear. The parking lot was packed.

[quote] This is all about Mercer keeping power through Trump

Maybe I missed something, but didn't Mercer drop Trump this time around?

I think this would've been a possibility, BUT with Biden winning multiple states, it's way too hard to argue Trump should've won. If it had been down to a state or two, maybe they could've pulled one over. Thankfully the results are what they are.

[quote] If it had been down to a state or two, maybe they could've pulled one over.

Arizona is likely to flip back to red when the tally is complete.

Not worried. Trump is a coward at heart. A coup means he trades a life in prison for a firing squad, so yeah, NO.

A firing squad is a quick and easy death. Plus, Trump would probably go the Hitler route and commit suicide before it got to that.

Trump will not go to prison, which is what makes him so dangerous. The only one way to avert this coup is for Biden and his team to not only grant him unconditional pardons for all of his actions prior to and in office, he'd need to get Letitia James to drop her investigations into his dealings and allow him to flee the country.

So far, I have seen nothing to suggest that Biden's team is ready to do this. That's what makes Trump attempting this all but a certainty. Even if he doesn't succeed, if he can get close enough, it could put the pressure on Biden to balk and cave into his demands.

So no, I think people should watch out for this. Trump has been too quiet. For someone as big of a fame whore as him, that's never a good sign.

He'll use the Four Seasons (total landscaping, not open on sundays) as his base of operations!

[quote]You should look him up, he gave Trump the money to get in office the first term and his ideologies are what Trump was implementing along with some of Sheldon Adelsons politics. Billionaires run the world, not politicians, the Oligarchs get to hide behind those they get in office. They dictate whatever destruction they wish so they can have power and continued wealth.

This is why taxpayers should be funding campaigns.

Who are you fools who think Trump would ever even consider suicide? He's George Costanza in a fire.

He'd shove Barron in front of him if he were before a firing squad. He's a coward and he loves himself.

Focusing on Trump is a mistake - the real Hitler is in the wings waiting. Trump paved the way but the real danger hasn't made hiself known yet.

himself*

[quote] Who are you fools who think Trump would ever even consider suicide?

I read a posting by a psychologist recently that refuted the notion that narcissists commit suicide. They do.

The thing is that they have very, very little impulse control so if the idea strikes them as a conduit to martyrdom or infamy, then it's game on .

[quote]Focusing on Trump is a mistake - the real Hitler is in the wings waiting. Trump paved the way but the real danger hasn't made hiself known yet.

You rang?

If Trump commits suicide it'll be in public with cameras rolling so it does the most damage. I don't know that he can get himself into a position where he's in front of the cameras with a gun, I suspect the Secret Service would catch some plot like that in its early stages.

R134, but Trump's narcissism is on an entirely different level. He's the type who would set up a "dog fight" between his two sons to see which one loved him more and the only way to prove it is to be the survivor.

Trump will be fine. I don't like Hillary, but her loss would have been way more devastating I would imagine. To think you had a massive a landslide win, were ready to literally break the glass ceiling at your historical event, only to lose. I actually felt bad for her. That's got to be rough. I remember she would just be spotted going for walks in the woods in those early days. She survived and so will Trump. This is a man who has had many ups and downs in life. I think once Trump gets used to his old life back in NYC or Palm Beach, it might be a relief to have this done and over. He's not going to commit suicide or go to prison or refuse to leave the WH. My bet is he will go through the transfer of power like every other President has. Maybe not attend the inauguration, but I think he will follow the traditions.

He'll organize a huge MAGA protest rally during the inauguration. Just watch.

If he does, no media outlet should cover it. ENOUGH. The media needs to do the fucking right thing and end his publicity. ratings are not worth the poison they have helped to unleash

Praise Allah it's not 500 freakin' votes in Floriduh..

[quote] Arizona is likely to flip back to red when the tally is complete.

I can’t find anyone reputable online who’s saying this.

[quote]I can’t find anyone reputable online who’s saying this.

These people believe that merely thinking it, is reputable enough. No tangible proof needed.

I don't know. I think the whole MAGA thing is just going to fizzle out. It felt that way even just yesterday. There were no crazy protests or riots. Everyone was celebrating.

Ugh

R145, no one gives a fuck. We know he's a low-life. The Constitution -which this moron knows nothing about- is not required to concede. He's a fucking loser.

He's like Joe McCarthy, and his fate will be Joe's. Sociopath/narcissists flame out pretty quickly when they have to face the music.

But look for him to do some mean shit while he still can, like pardon a bunch of crooks. The Ghislaine Maxwell prosecuters better delay her trial and sentencing. Or can you pardon someone only under indictment? If so, he will.

And not for nothing R145, but I could rewrite one of Applebaum's sentences as

[quote] that doesn’t mean Clinton will admit that the election was fair—ever. Even if Clinton is forced to make a grudging concession speech, even if Trump is sworn in as president on January 20, even if the Clinton family is forced to pack its Louis Vuitton suitcases and flee to Chappaqua, it is in Clinton’s interest, and a part of the Democrat Party’s interest, to maintain the fiction that the election was stolen.

And I did that because there will always be a segment of the base in both parties who believe the election was stolen and unfair and all that.

But at the end of the day it won't matter-- Biden will be President and we will focus on what he does and doesn't do and Trump will be reduced to Crazy Uncle status, spewing out grievances on Parler and on Trump TV, which is likely to be a paid app that only die-hard Trumpists will see.

[quote] Arizona is likely to flip back to red when the tally is complete.

Are they gonna take back Mark Kelly’s win, too?

Arizona is not going to Trump. He cannot catch up.

Trump may be able to retain his fans by conducting himself graciously. But he won't be doing that. And as the weeks wear on, all but his most deranged followers will grow weary (and embarrassed) of his desperate hijinks.

I'm making the popcorn..

[quote]Trump may be able to retain his fans by conducting himself graciously.

Are you high?

You're literally saying a leopard should change his spots to maintain the appeal he had because of the spots.

[quote] Billionaires run the world, not politicians, the Oligarchs get to hide behind those they get in office. They dictate whatever destruction they wish so they can have power and continued wealth.

Bloomberg should definitely be prosecuted for trying to interfere in the election.

r135 The ones we should be afraid of and focusing on are the billionaires.

Robert Mercer was responsible for Trump getting elected. Don't know what the reason is everyone ignores the billionaire and corporation money that calls the shots in Washington but the Oligarchs are responsible. Some other politician will emerge that will carry out what they want to happen. If you want to know what some of their politics are read the link and then you will recognize their agenda in the politicians and in the courts.

Robert Mercer the author of Trump's agenda is dangerous to regular Americans.

Here is a quote about Mercer from the link:

[quote]Well, he’s a, as you’ve mentioned, a New York hedge-fund tycoon. He’s a computer scientist, a kind of a math genius and uber-nerd, who figured out how to game the stocks and bonds and commodities markets by using math. He runs something that’s kind of like a quant fund in Long Island, and it’s called Renaissance Technologies. He’s the co-CEO. And it just mints money. So he’s enormously wealthy. He earns at least $135 million a year, according to Institutional Investor, probably more. And what he’s done is he has tried to take this fortune and reshape, first, the Republican Party and, then, America, along his own lines. His ideology is extreme. He’s way far on the right. He hates government. Kind of—according to another colleague, David Magerman, at Renaissance Technologies, Bob Mercer wants to shrink the government down to the size of a pinhead. He has contempt for social services and for the people who need social services. And so, he has been a power behind the scenes in Trump’s campaign. He kind of rescued Trump’s campaign in the end, he and his daughter. And, you know, most people think Trump was the candidate who did it on his own, had his own fortune, and he often boasted that he needed no help and had no strings attached, and he was going to sort of throw out corruption. And, in fact, there was somebody behind the scenes who helped enormously with him.

It's the billionaires we need to learn about and the things the agendas they have, the politicians are the henchmen for these people. The Insanely Wealthy don't give a shit about what happens to us or our neighborhoods or families. Time to give as much attention to the insane wealthy as we do to those in Washington.

Continued from the article:

And the campaign was, you know, spinning in a kind of a downward spiral, when, at a fundraiser out in Long Island, at Woody Johnson’s house—he’s the man who owns the Jets—Rebekah Mercer, the daughter of this hedge-fund tycoon, Bob Mercer, sort of cornered Trump and said, “You know, we’d like to give money to your campaign. We’ll back you, but you’ve got to try to, you know, stabilize it.” And basically, she said, “And I’ve got just the people for you to do the job.”

And they were political operatives who the Mercer family had been funding for a couple of years, the main one being Steve Bannon, who is now playing the role to Trump—he’s the political strategist for Trump—that’s the role he played for the Mercer family prior to doing it for Trump. So, these are operatives who are very close to this one mega-donor. The other was Kellyanne Conway, who had been running this superfund, as you mentioned in your introduction, for the Cruz campaign, that was filled with the money from the Mercers. And so she became the campaign manager. Bannon became the campaign chairman. And a third person, David Bossie, whose organization Citizens United was also very heavily backed by the Mercer family, he became the deputy campaign manager. So, basically, as Trump’s campaign is rescued by this gang, they encircle Trump. And since then, they’ve also encircled Trump’s White House and become very key to him. And they are the Mercers’ people.

Con't

They have nothing but disdain for, you know, the mainstream media. Robert Mercer barely speaks even to people who he works with and who know him. I mean, he’s so silent that he has said often that he—or to a colleague, he said once—I should correct that—that he much prefers the company of cats to humans. He goes through whole meetings, whole dinners, without uttering a word. He never speaks to the media. He’s given, I think, one interview I know of, to a book author, and who described him as having the demeanor of an icy cold poker player.

His daughter, Rebekah Mercer, who’s 43 and has also worked at the family’s hedge fund a little bit and is a graduate of Stanford, she’s a little more outspoken. She has been in fundraising meetings on the right. She has spoken up—and very loudly and irately, actually. But she doesn’t speak to the press. And so, I had very little hope that they would.

Well, sure. The Mercer family, Robert and his daughter Rebekah, met Andrew Breitbart back—I think it was late 2011 or early 2012, speaking at a conference of the Club for Growth, another right-wing group. And they were completely taken with Andrew Breitbart. He was pretty much the opposite kind of character from Bob Mercer. Breitbart was outspoken and gleefully provocative and loved to offend people and use vulgar language just to catch their attention. And you’ve got this kind of tight-lipped hedge-fund man from the far right who just fell for Breitbart big time.

And he—mostly what he was captivated by, I think, was Breitbart’s vision, which was, “We’re going to”—he said, “Conservatives can never win until we basically take on the mainstream media and build up our own source of information.” He was talking about declaring information warfare in this country on fact-based reporting and substituting it with their own vision. And what he needed, Breitbart, at that point, was money. He needed money to set up Breitbart News, which was only just sort of a couple of bloggers at that point.

Con't

Well, I mean, you know, it changed. What happened was—I mean, it started as a—Andrew Breitbart had helped The Huffington Post get set up. And his idea was that he was going to launch The Huffington Post of the right. And so, he was setting it up, and his very close friend was Steve Bannon. And Bannon had been in investment banking. So Bannon got the Mercers to put $10 million into turning this venture into something that was really going to pack a punch. And they were just about to launch it in a big day—big way. They were a few days away from it, when Andrew Breitbart died. That was in March of 2012. He was only 43, and he had a sudden massive heart attack. And so, this operation was just about to go big. It was leaderless. And that’s when Steve Bannon stepped in and became the head of Breitbart News.

And in Bannon’s hands, it became a force of economic nationalism and, in some people’s view, white supremacism. It ran, you know, a regular feature on black crime. It hosted and pretty much launched the career of Milo Yiannopoulos, who’s sort of infamous for his kind of juvenile attacks on women and immigrants and God knows what. You know, just it became, as Bannon had said, a platform for the “alt-right,” meaning the alternative to the old right, a new right that was far more angry and aggressive about others, people who were not just kind of the white sort of conservatives like themselves.

And it’s interesting to me that—one of the things I learned was that Rebekah Mercer, this heiress, who’s had no experience in politics, is so immersed in running Breitbart News at this point. I mean, she—her family is the money, big money, behind it. That she reads every story, I’m told, and flyspecks, you know, typos and grammar and all that kind of thing. I mean, there is a force behind Breitbart News that people don’t realize, and it’s the Mercer family. So, anyway, it became very important, increasingly, on the fringe of conservative politics, because it pushed the conservatives in this country towards this economic nationalism, nativism, anti-immigration, pro-harsh borders, anti-free trade, protectionist. And it spoke the language of populism, but right-wing populism.

Billionaires contributing to the election like Sean Parker, George Soros, Meg Whitman, Tom Steyer, Dustin Moskovitz, should be in jail.

This article spells out Trump's agenda as set forth by Robert Mercer and his daughter.

This article is from March 2017 tells you exactly what happened in the Trump presidency and Mercer dictated all of it.

Stop talking about politicians and start following the money to who is setting them up to destroy our lives. If we don't start talking about the money behind the politicians and make them take the "credit" for these policies we are forced to live with we will never get our country back. You have to be able to fight your enemy and face them. The politicians are not the enemy, they just work for the enemy.

Becky Mercer loves her Daddy’s cock buried in her roast beef pussy.

From what I've read about Mercer he's so completely introverted to the point he prefers the company of cats to people. He hates to talk.

He distrusts science and hates the mainstream media.

He fell in thrall to Breitbart when he met him, I read this in an article and it made me wonder if he's got a bit of the 'mo in him. That's what made him decide to purchase have of the magazine, he thought Breitbart was some kind of genius.

All this talk about the Mercers is incomplete without a photo of DL's favorite conehead.

[quote]If Trump commits suicide it'll be in public with cameras rolling so it does the most damage.

And on pay-per-view, so he can profit from it.

Becky got a 9 head.

We need the taxpayers to fund campaigns, but I doubt it will ever happen at this point.

I disagree, R166. I shouldn't have to pay more to fund McConnell than the garbage people who vote for him. Why should I -as a blue stater- fund the campaigns of those states?

Unless you mean local taxes within those states.

Ugh is right r145. It's a good piece. I'd add though that IIRC this de-legitimizing of the president started even earlier before obama, with Bill Clinton. Am I right?

That's what is done in England (maybe the entire UK) -- candidates have a limited amount of taxpayers' money they can spend on campaigns and they all get the same amount. It levels the playing field and allows middle-class candidates to have a fighting chance to win without being beholden to big money interests.

I agree -- it should be done here. But so far, no politicians have agreed to do it. I mean, the winners are usually the ones pulling in the big money from "special interest groups." They have no incentive to allow additional (and less affluent) candidates to be able to enter the races.

r167, How else do we get the government to represent the people instead of wealthy donors and large corporations? And I doubt McConnell would be in office if taxpayers funded his campaign.

R170, look, we need to accept that money is not the answer. If it were, how do you explain Graham who BEGGED for money, clobbering Harrison who had a war chest? There are parts of this country where they simply want to wallow in their hate of anyone who isn't white, hetero and "Christian." There is not a single ad or attempt at outreach that will change their minds. These are people who know that Trump has done nothing for them and they still voted for him and I'm not even talking about hardcore Trump supporters. I'm talking about people who just vote Republican knowing the policies don't help them.

But the elected officials would not be beholden to corporate money or people like Mercer. They would be answering to the people. Plus, the elected officials would have more time to focus on their work if they didn't have to raise money to run their campaigns. Also, many politicians say the worst part of the job is raising capital, perhaps we would get better candidates if they didn't have to raise money? The main thing for me is the quid pro quo that goes along with big financial donations.

Dickbag Mercer and his 9head cunt crotch fruit sound like aspies.

Every last one of these oligarchs are either on the spectrum or sociopaths. They only care about money.

Disgusting neanderthals. Why haven't we evolved out of these hateful assholes yet?

All this talk about the Mercers when there’s absolutely nothing they can do about the position of President at this point. Sean Hannity has bigger influence over Trump’s decision making.

R172 campaign finance reform raises its head now and then. Neither party wants it as there's too much money. Changing the two-party system also raises its head in turn now and then. It makes people's heads hurt to think so they don't.

[quote] Arizona is likely to flip back to red when the tally is complete.

Getting closer, I guess(?) —

[quote]A few hours ago another 3,038 votes dropped in Arizona, bringing Joe Biden's lead up to 19,348 (the votes broke 63% vs. 34% for Biden over Trump).

r176, thanks for the good news!

I guess white folks can afford to just deal with that headache eh r175?

You are still the majority in this country and as white supremacy is endemic in society you can afford to shrug about issues that require some effort and sacrifice. Maybe the boot isn't so bad if you are the last to get kicked with it.

For MAGATs to have any future Presidential-election power, Trump as their cult leader, their God-given Messiah II, would have to tell them to support a particular (presumably Republican, but who knows) candidate.

And Trump the Raging Narcissist would never be able to endorse another.

MAGATs are over. TRUMPISM is dead.

They and Trump can Tweet, bleat, try to cheat, take to the street and stamp their feet, but the word for their world is a simple "DEFEAT."

R154, Let me guess. Billionaires want all the world's money, drugs, gems, and basically land.

The planet, to be succinct. Am I close?

No taxes on wealth. No environmental protection laws. No restraints on business. No Civil Rights. No Bill of Rights. No Human Rights. No public education.

A world of workers (somebody needs to build the mega-yachts), slaves (for mining, farming, sex), and themselves.

Who needs to read a lengthy article?

Biden’s lead expanded again but I’m sure Trump is still somehow gonna catch up and flip it back to red, right R126

[quote] Joe Biden's lead has grown in Arizona to 20,102 votes.

"MAGATs are over. TRUMPISM is dead."

Oh, you poor, poor, naive, delusional twat.

There need to be campaign spending caps and all of the money for campaigns needs to come from each state’s budget. Every candidate is assured an equal amount, under the law, with which to promote their positions and no candidate can receive more promotional time than any other candidate, e,g, if a local radio show invites one candidate to be interviewed for ten minutes, all candidates must be offered that same amount of time by that station.

[Quote] I guess white folks can afford to just deal with that headache eh [R175]?

Yes. It is a minor inconvenience, and not much more. I've brought up the issue of the two party system a few times before. I got slammed or dismissed, never discussed.

Most people are too well off and comfortable. If Trump had won, it would have been tsk tsk shrug inside and making dinner plans.

Remember guys you were all wrong about mueller and now I see the same pattern. First the slobbering adulation of a hero who will deliver everything in the buildup. Then ... Then... Nothing.

Now, just wait for the storms, endless chaos, obstacles, projection, digressions, reflection, and outright lies as usual. It's worked before.

The GOP is in the long haul with thos Reagan-Gingrich-Koch handbook of Trump and his inner circle. What you got?

I doubt the PA House Speaker has legal standing to "order a full recount" of the entire state. Maybe the Secretary of State does, but it depends on what the rules are for a close election. Many do an automatic recount which is different if the totals are less than .5% apart. In some states the party asking for the recount has to pay for it. I bet Trump's campaign is broke.

[quote]K. Harris, Tie-breaker

I went to the same Presbyterian church as the Harris family. Grew up around them. Youth group. Whole nine religious yards. Katherine's brother Walt looked like a Calvin Klein model from about seventeen on. Supposedly gay. At on time was a restaurant owner. Youngest sister Fran married a Christian Country singer.

r187, who is Katherine?

Katherine Harris aka K. Harris tie-breaker the posted by I quoted.

Isn't the LP funded by Iranians?

Is that what you and the rest of the Quacknon idiots are telling each other, R190? Did you suddenly stop blaming Soros for everything?

Well, it seems the Lincoln Project were right to raise the alarms after all. Trump is going through with the coup attempt.

No, love, just saw it somewhere. And looking at the result, The LP accomplished sweet fuck all.

But here you go.

R185, what particular anguish do you think we have ahead of us? Got any specific predictions? I am *so worried*, my blood pressure is very high, and I was certain that Biden would be our savior but after reading this thread and especially what you’ve written, I just. don’t. know. anymore.

Please tell us, O wise one, what is in store for us fools.

Learn to be patient, r181. The margin is now 16985.

R190, you appear not to know what "funding" means if you think "inadvertently" is an antonym.

OOPS, SYNONYM*

R182, Meaning what? They gonna riot? Haha! Them and what US Army under President Biden? Oh, you mean in this lame-duck interim? Let'em! Go for it! Smash and destroy! Show their true colors! I hope they like police brutality and prison, because police commanders know which Party has won.

They're going to fervently support some Republican candidate after Trump? Yeah, no, that's not how cults work.

That re-elected Republicans newly-freed from their Fear of The Donald will still promote his fictions, lies, and demented Tweets? I don't THINK so!

So what is it that you think I "haven't seen nothing yet" of, then?

More rallies? Well, duh. NS, Sherlock. Praise Trump and pass the Covid-19! Of course, there's no campaign funds left for such events, so Trump will part these fools and their money.

More highway blockades by pick-up trucks with big-ass "TRUMP" flags? Sorry, that stunt works only BEFORE elections. Goober and buddies will meet the Sheriff right quick.

BTW, if you're thinking of 1963 or perhaps 1968 redux with the assassinations, I really don't think "President Kamala Harris" sounds good to any Trumptard.

^ What sore winners you people are.

^The hour when the trolls really slither out. I'm done.

Oh, and fuck off, R199. We're not talking about a game of Uno. We're talking about removing a scumbag who abused his power and won supporters based on his hate.

^ As a human not in America, it was so nice not having your country invading sovereign nations, nor drone bombing them constantly.

It was nice your were looking within, and seeing how damaged and flawed you are, as a country.

But, sigh, that is over, so back to drone bombing and war hawkishness.

How much do you wanna bet, R201? Which countries do you think Biden is gonna bomb or invade anew?

Where do you live anyway?

[quote] ^ What sore winners you people are.

You know he was responding to someone saying “You ain’t nothin’ yet” re: Trump and his rabid, gun-totin’ cult followers, right? Are we not allowed to push back forcefully and derisively when a SORE LOSER issues dire, ridiculous warnings about our electoral victory soon coming back to haunt us?

Fuuuuuuuuck you, cunt.

Glad to see the OP is now grayed out.

Thank you r89 for the info on Katherine Harris. From your link:

[quote]Harris' extended family has been active in Christian evangelism

[quote]My friends and I who voted for Trump are happy because we don't have to deal with the negatives that come with Trump while still holding on to the tax cuts. That's why the stock market isn't cratering. If it was a blue wave we would have been fucked.

Nope, wouldn't have cratered.

Blue wave = Stimulus. The market loves stimulus.

The market also loves what we're looking at = Gridlock. Because the tax cuts will stay, the chances for stimulus go up, and nobody has the upper hand so there won't be radical changes.

R199, Yeah, baby! And don't it feel good!

R201, Trump was "looking within"?! Yes, with his head up his arse!

Trump let loose the "damaged and flawed," and he is yet determined to incite them to riots and sedition. THIS is what you'll miss?

GTH.

So the trolls who tried, yet failed, to ramp up fear about the election place violence, and the results themselves, are now trying to ramp up fear of a coup, Yawn

You lost. Take your Russian severance (one ruble and half of a potato) and slither back under the rocks you came out from.

Just as I said last week, support for Trump's stalling in the courts, his claims of fraud, his reliance on the SC to reverse the election, have gotten almost no traction among judges or the Republican leadership. It's only Miz Lindz and Ted Cruz out there echoing his claims to the deranged base, while other Republicans are humoring him with assurances that "all LEGAL votes must be counted" while they plot to stonewall President Biden.

Trump called Murdoch and yelled at him. That pissed the billionaire media tycoon off. Murdoch owns Fox. Watch Fox change their tune fast.

This is Emily Murphy,

She is the Trump political appointee who is presently refusing to recognize Biden's victory and release funds for the transition to commence. She also helped cover for Trump's profiting off his DC hotel while POTUS.

McConnell echos Trump's bullshit talking points. He's in on the coup too.

McConnell isn't looking for a coup. He has nothing to lose by showing 70M morons that he stands with Trump. He knows he is reviled by Dems and he knows his seat is safe because his state is full of mooching, idiot garbage who will always vote for an "R." He is an unethical demon, so there is no reason for him to show a modicum of class. Trumpism is for classless, immoral filth - that's who McConnell serves.

Publicans have accepted it and all has been peaceful, fingers crossed. Trump was easy to quit. There were no looting or riots, the boarded up windows are coming down. Conservative people don't riot and burn down cities when they don't get their way. You just accept it and move on, giving the new president a chance. It's only the Trump Campaign itself that cannot accept the loss.

Keep in mind that McConnell needs to keep the heat on to energize Republicans in Georgia.

^Someone should pour salt on Moscow Bitch. He would dissolve into a disgusting, slimy blob.

[quote] He would dissolve into a disgusting, slimy blob.

Would we notice any difference?

Any recent pics of Mitch's rotted hand?

Uh no r215. Facebook is a current cesspool of brain poison being posted by right wing media outlets. Trumpet supporters are not accepting this and moving on. Far, far from it. There will terrorist attacks and violence soon.

R220 MAGAts literally think Biden is stealing the election. These people are crazy and this is why I'm so nervous. I don't think there's no base to play to try to steal the election. 71 million people voted for this fascist. Even if half buy into the nonsense, that's a shit ton of people and that's really scary. We really should be taking this seriously, especially with Trump's moves today to fire Esper and have Barr investigate bullshit "voter fraud" allegations.

Doesn't this vibe feel like people have moved on? It feels a night and day from a week ago.

If Richard Nixon's lawyer is calling what Trump is attempting to do a coup, it's a fucking coup.

r223, do you know who John Dean is? Even as a kid during Watergate, I knew Dean was a weasel as well as a convicted felon.

Dean is no weasel, at least not since his days with Nixon. Since at least the W years he's been a major public voice calling out the Republicans as a basically authoritarian party. He knows the ratfucking party from the inside and doesn't have any illusions that they'd go along with Trump's attempted coup—as they have been for almost 4 years—if they could get away with it.

Taegan Goddard:

President Trump’s top confidants –including White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, and adviser Corey Lewandowski — have all said in private that they’re pessimistic about success in Trump’s lawsuits in several states that are looking to overturn election results, the Washington Post reports.

One person with knowledge of the discussions said that Trump will carry on fighting, but even he acknowledges that it will be difficult to succeed.

Said the adviser: “He is all over the place. It changes from hour to hour.”

Forgot the Wapo link (November 10)

[quote] Kind of hard to do it when you're 100lbs overweight, your heart is weakened from untreated dental issues, and you have to lug an oxygen tank behind you everywhere.

Meal Team 6

People keep saying his base is 71 million strong. Look, NO. A lot of people vote straight ticket R, no matter what. For abortion, religion and tradition. But those people are not the crazy QAnoners who claim America has already been through two coups, so what Dump is doing now is "our turn". They aren't white nationalists who are on the edge of their seats, hoping to shoot some blacks and some soyboy hippies. They aren't the ones breathlessly jerking their nubs in hopes of Civil War II.

The Republican party is not a monolith, just like the Democratic party is not. Assuming that before the election was short-sighted and its fear mongering now. And wrong.

Giuliani has never forgiven Joe for “a noun, a verb & 9/11.”

[quote]People keep saying his base is 71 million strong. Look, NO. A lot of people vote straight ticket R, no matter what.

This is what I said and I also said that there are far more people who hate Trump with a passion and will physically tear down the WH around him if he and his parasitic family do not leave, There aren't enough MAGAt cultists to protect him from the hundreds of thousands coming for him. He better get the fuck out.

[quote] Arizona is likely to flip back to red when the tally is complete.

Woof, R126. NBC News just called it for Biden, joining AP and Fox News who called it a week ago.

It was never “likely to flip back to red when the tally is complete.”

Condolences to you and Trump.

CNN just called Arizona now.

"DL Favorite The Lincoln Project" had to find some new way to keep the scam alive. Send them money now to stop the coup !

Sucks to be R126. Oh well. I'm sure she still has her Trump flags and yard signs to keep her warm.

Arizona was likely to flip back to red, but likely isn’t definitely as we can see.

[quote] Arizona was likely to flip back to red, but likely isn’t definitely as we can see.

No serious person who knew what they were talking about said that Arizona was “likely to flip back to red” once the tallying was finished. You might have thought that, but in the real world, it was never in doubt.

The trend favored the remaining votes to flip the state by a few votes back to GOP, but in the end it didn’t. It shows the importance of counting every vote.

No, the trend did not favor the GOP. Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Dispelling the OP and others’ fearmongering some more—

[quote] Not overturning the will of voters: Leaders of the Republican majorities in legislatures in key states, including Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona and Georgia, told NYT this week that they saw no role for themselves in picking electors.

^ You're going to trust what they have to say?

[Quote] Graham in 2018: Senate Won’t Vote on SCOTUS Pick in Last Year of Trump’s Term The Judiciary Committee chairman shifted his stance last month, saying that ‘the rules have changed’ after the fraught confirmation process of Trump’s last Supreme Court pick.

Wait until those same GOP legislators in the states find some way for the "rules" to change in two weeks. When will you learn to stop taking what these fascists have to say when they have every incentive to lie?

Biden is up by over 65 thousand votes over Trump in Pennsylvania. The Republicans of the Pennsylvania legislature are really going to change state law and award the state's electors to Trump against a clear majority vote for Biden, on the strength of some vaguely asserted "fraud" (which has been repudiated by court after court)? I'm sure they'd like to do it, but realistically ....

r239, the trend in the final vote counting in Arizona favored the GOP, but fortunately for Biden, when the margin was reduced down to 10,377, there were no more votes to count.

From CNN.

Wall Street is also worried about a coup.

AZ was never *likely to flip back to red*, even if the margin was narrowing in the final days of counting. Oh my god. Just stop.

Arizona had been likely to flip to GOP with the trend in the final votes, but there were not enough votes in the end for that to happen.

No, R248, it was never likely except in your clueless mind. Blocking you now.

The numbers show that there was a trend in the final vote counting favoring the GOP that made the outcome likely to flip, but fortunately for Biden, there were actually not enough votes left uncounted for that to happen.

The George Conway/Kathy Griffin friendship is weird

R245, so Trump is going to “attend his own Inauguration”? What happens then? He has a right to attend Biden’s Inauguration. When he steps up to the podium, will the Secret Service have to grab him and rush him away? Or will some Republican allow him to stand on the podium and say the oath of office into the microphone somehow? What if that happened? The Republicans would never stop saying he was the legally sworn in President. I don’t think Biden can necessarily ban him from the ceremony before he does anything.

This is reminding me of those trashy weddings where the ex girlfriend shows up to the church wearing a wedding dress.

Trump court challenges 0-22, looks like all he had wss bluster, no evidence. He's right on brand. How embarrassing for him.