Stop blaming all Latinos for the fucking Cubans always voting Republican

There's like 100 Cubans in USA. Yeah, they are responsible for Trump being the president, cause their votes are so important

OMG, that picture! Perfect.

Trump would put those fuckers right back on an innertube to Havana if he could.

I'm gonna say it one more time:

Next time you try to blame Latinos over the Florida fiasco: even if Miami-Dade Latinos had delivered Hillary-level numbers, Joe would have still lost the state. College-educated whites and seniors (who were supposed to deliver the victory) ALL underperformed at ~38% vs Hillary's ~41%.

All Joe's campaign had to do was enlist Hillary strategists and Chuck Rocha (you may not like Bernie, but Rocha delivered HUGE numbers). Who did they hire instead as one of their key Florida strategists? Ana Navarro, a freaking Never Trumper Republican.

We know, OP. Most Cubans have a major complex about white superiority.

R3, I would've voted for him if he did

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There's a lot of push back in social media today against the ignorant essentialism about Latinos in the US. "Blaming" Latinos generically for the Cuban support of Trump in FL. The diversity of Latinos in the US isn't well understood.

Having said that - Mexican Americans in South Texas didn't help as much as hoped there. And more importantly, no matter what your heritage, there is no fucking excuse for voting for a dictator who lies incessantly.

[quote]there is no fucking excuse for voting for a dictator who lies incessantly.

Exactly. It doesn't matter what you are. This isn't Mitt Romney who is just your typical, greedy Republican. Trump is an ignorant, corrupt, Nazi/Fascist (yeah, he's both) fool who should never have been allowed anywhere near power. Our country is a disgrace even if Biden wins.

And I hope every low income idiot who voted Trump loses their health insurance.

[quote]And I hope every low income idiot ... loses their health insurance.

Well, now you sound like a MAGA

It’s mostly the Hispanics that came from socialist countries that are all paranoid about voting blue. They think Biden is going to turn into El Che and start trashing their businesses and fancy homes, then start forcing them into crappy government jobs and apartments. It’s retarded.

R10, fuck off with your selective editing. I have every right to have said what I did. Why exactly would I give a shit if people who voted to lose their health insurance actually LOSE their health insurance?

And I may "sound" like them to you when you edit out my words, but I am not them and will never be them. I can afford private HC, but I vote for idiots like them to HAVE affordable health insurance.

If they lose it: GOOD.

It's rarely acknowledged, but Latinos in the US are notoriously racist. Unfortunately, they saw Trump as their savior when he started trashing Black Lives Matter.

People act like the increasing Hispanic population will lead to more equality and diversity, but racism will continue unimpeded in America even if Latinos become the #1 minority.

Sad that regardless of the minority group, so many want someone to look down on.

You are missing the most rabid republicans of all: Brazilians.

Many settled in south Florida and brought their families here through chain immigration.

Cubans, Venezuelan and Brazilians which are the most plentiful Latinos in south Florida gave Trump Florida.

Trump did not win big here. Democrats made gains and flipped once republican counties. For all his time and money spent in Florida his return on investment was piss poor.

Democrats need to redouble their efforts in Florida, it’s within striking distance.

Latinos were none too pleased that the AA community annointing Biden, his pledge to pick a women of color and then ditching all the Latinas, and BLM putting Black back in front of Hispanic at priority minority when Latinos are up to a third of CA and FL. At least Hillary put that Spanish-speaking gringo on her ticket and bought local Latino media.

Plus, we have a healthy 2nd generation and even a 3rd that speaks only English: the Italians by the 1960s-70s. Of course they were going to go with Mr Prosperity + Resentment. Plus growing evangelicals. Republicans just had to wait long enough to pick them off.

CUBANS. You white dumbasses are even doing it on here. Stop jointing all Latinos!!!

R17 go back where you came from psycho. Your Trump is losing b

donald trump ran about as anti immigration as you can get, calling mexicans rapist and murderers, and he gained with them. That says to me that 1. Latino's dont' consider this racist, and white liberals have stepped into the role of racism-identifier yet again, or 2. Something about democrats in the last few years has caused latinos to move away from the party. What could that be?

Trump made gains with Latinos broadly, NOT just Cubans. You are mis-framing this and that will lead to incorrect conclusions drawn about this election and what it means.

Trump had larger than expected support from Latinos in Texas too. The issue for them was religion and abortion.

[quote]There's like 100 Cubans in USA. Yeah, they are responsible for Trump being the president, cause their votes are so important

R1, there's considerably more than 100.

"Cuban Americans are the third largest Hispanic American group in the United States.

Many communities throughout the United States have significant Cuban American populations. Florida (𝟏.𝟓𝟑 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟕) has the highest concentration of Cuban Americans in the U.S., standing out in part because of its proximity to Cuba, followed by California (110,702), New Jersey (99,987), Texas (86,183) and New York (78,478).

South Florida is followed by New York City; Tampa, Florida; Union County and North Hudson, New Jersey areas, particularly Union City, Elizabeth and West New York. With a population of 141,250, the New York metropolitan area's Cuban community is the largest outside Florida. Nearly 70% of all Cuban Americans live in Florida."

[quote]Something about democrats in the last few years has caused latinos to move away from the party. What could that be?

Maybe trying to change a letter in the word describing them when 97% don't want it, for starters.

Look OP this is America, every group that isn't lily white has to get blamed for something so that they can be used as distraction for all the fucked up shit white people do but will never be held accountable for.

LOOK! Look over there at what the Blacks, gays, women, Cubans, illegals, Jews. . .

It's up to Latinos to get their house in order. Figure it out or you too will be banished from the cool kids table.

The best thing that could possibly happen for Democrats is for the SC to overturn Roe v. Wade. If we get that huge issue off the table, then maybe we can start winning some of these voters back again. It will at least stop them from being single-issue voters.

That would be a loss for everyone, R27.

And once they managed to accomplish that, the far right would then give more of their attention to the goal of eliminating gay marriage and re-criminalizing homosexuality.

There are very large Cuban and Brazilian populations in New Jersey--the latter in Newark.

They did not vote for Trump.

[quote]Look OP this is America, every group that isn't lily white has to get blamed for something so that they can be used as distraction for all the fucked up shit white people do but will never be held accountable for. LOOK! Look over there at what the Blacks, gays, women, Cubans, illegals, Jews. . .

Last night there was the thread attacking Black people, with a poster saying he hoped BLM protesters get shot and killed by the police, so the racist DL firing squad is out for all people of color more than they usually are.

I hate FL Cubans. Fuck them. I guess their issue wasn't dictatorship, it was only that Fidel wasn't a racist enough dictator. Corrupt fuckheads.

I know plenty of Cubans and Venezualans in Florida who run as Democrat as you can get. But there's a lot of both in South Florida. I grew up there. Cubans loved Reagan when I was a kid. Not much has changed with the base - still greedy, still racist - but there are many many Cubans who are enlightened.

You know Dade county went for Biden... it just didn't give him a big enough lead to offset what happened in the rest of the state. I haven't seen the % of Latino vote in Dade.... could be a majority of Cubans voted for Biden, just not enough.

I think the real and more appropriate blame for Trump overperforming the polls... more white people supported him than the polls indicated. Want to find a place to lay blame? White voters.

Ya voy a botar....al DonalTrooomp....

R1 There is an estimated 1.2 million Cubans in Florida. Approximately 75% of them voted for Trump.

For the last time, you average dumb ass Americans need to get it together; Cubans, Argentinians, Brazilians, Venezuelans, etc.. are not "Latinos" nor consider themselves any such thing. Well not at least those from white/European heritage or backgrounds. It's like calling Spaniards from Spain "Latino", something that if done to their faces might get you verbally or maybe even physically assaulted.

I hope Florida Cubans never ever ever come close to reclaiming the land and possessions taken by the Castro regime. Fuck them.

R36 Incorrecto. Los mexicanos de descandencia europea son latinos.... gachupines, judeos... nacido in mexico, son latinos.

"Hispanic" is a term than is both broader and more precise. Someone born in Spain shouldn't be classified as "latino", but by definition they are "hispano"

PUTAS!

A lot of people from Spanish-speaking countries in the United States either have money, had money, or think they are moneyed because they have a lot of things they didn’t have back in la madre patria. A lot of them are very class conscious, and will do and say just about anything to distance themselves from poor immigrants from Hispanic countries because of the stigma and internalized/societal racism here in the US. Conversations about their childhood or youth usually include something that clarifies that they aren’t one of “them”. This usually includes some reference to former wealth, private education, or a relative from Spain or some other European country. We like to think “Latinos” see themselves in others like those folks Trump put in cages on the border, but many don’t. That’s why they can vote for Trump, because in their minds, they are more like you than them.

the truth is that roughly half of cubans voted for trump. trump wont florida because of white men in rural counties.

[quote]It's rarely acknowledged, but Latinos in the US are notoriously racist.

It always amazes me how clueless whites are about Latinos being some of the worst racists. They hate blacks.

R42, here's the thing: There may be racists here and there against this group or that group, but what it comes down to is this: Trump got almost 60% of whites. Trump is on white people. A majority of white people think the stupidest, most clownish, boorish, hateful, inept, vile, odious, repugnant, steaming pile of shit was qualified to be president of the United States.

Remember when some clueless Woke white American journalists called Antonio Banderas a "person of color" awhile back? It was huge news in Spain and they were ready to start another Spanish-American war.

DO NOT put Spaniards into the "Latino" category.

R42

This is not news to anyone who bothers watching telenovelas, at least ones from South American countries or whatever.

It's like watching American television from 1950's or 1960's; totally devoid of POC, and or when they are seen you get servants, clowns, buffoons, laborers, etc.. But those in power and or main cast are always white/European often complete with blue eyes/blonde hair.....

Brazil, Cuba, Argentina, Portugal, Venezuela, etc... all to some extent have racism that would make even those in deep southern USA states grow pale.

There's a reason why all the models (super or whatever) out of Brazil like Gisele Bundchen all look European.

Cubans in South Florida will welcome people on boats escaping Cuba; but let it be Haitians and they are first ones calling on federal government to send those people back to Hati.

As matter of fact now that many of the Cubans arriving on boats from Cuba are not from the educated, professional intelligensia classes of before, many of the established Cuban migrant community couldn't care less. They got themselves and theirs here, and that is what matters having left Cuba to get away from "those people".

R44

You want to get a Spaniard in USA angry? Call him or her Puerto Rican, maybe worse Mexican or Dominican.

The only issue I have with any of this is out of all minority groups, Trump has been the most vocal and the most in your face about his disdain for brown people. He's been saying nasty things about the Chinese for almost a year, and the whole not really condemning white supremacy is fucked up but Latinos, out of all the others, have really been his focus.

So I don't understand how any Latino could have listened to all the shit he's said for the last 4 years and think, oh yeah... that's my guy. Oh yeah, he says shit about Latinos, but he's not talking about me. I'm different. I'm "the good" Latino... I'm not Mexican... and sometimes I can pass for white.

Oh, please, R47. He has also endlessly gone after Muslims - incl. a Goldstar family. He tweets if a Muslim so much as farts anywhere, but encourages white supremacist violence.

Thanks for that map, R41. At various points of my life, I have lived in Miami, in Ft. Lauderdale, in Orlando, Tampa, and in Jacksonville, and I am *stunned* that Jacksonville voted blue. That's not how I remember that city, but good to see.

Again, whatever qualities, cultural characteristics, physical categories, identity patterns you want to discus.... THERE IS NO ACCEPTABLE RATIONALE VOTING FOR A WHITE SUPREMACIST, AUTOCRATIC, DISHONEST, CORRUPT, TV PERSONALITY. And white people, particularly white men, and particular white people with little education, is the group with the highest percentage of Trump voters. If you want to assign blame for Trump, guess what?

Yes there is "racism" among Latinos. Yes, people from Spain aren't happy to be considered Latino (and Mexican and Cuban immigrants in Spain - and there are a lot - are not readily accepted as fully equal to native Spaniards). Yes, in countries like Mexico telenovelas are filled with very white actors (though the noble "criada indigena" has a role). Yes, income correlates to skin pigmentation in Mexico City. But AMLO, the Mexican President was elected with the overwhelming support of the darker skinned demographics, The George Washington of Mexico, Benito Juarez, was an Indian. (Zapoteca).

Yes, Cubans who left Castro's Cuba in the 50s and 60s were light-skinned professionals and capitalists (as R44 says).. Yes the boat people and Marielitos that Castro sent to USA in the 80s were largely Afro Cuban. Yes, the "white privileged" Cubans are really happy to be classified with the Afro Cubans.

But R44 and others - light skin European Argentinos (so many there are Italian, German and even English in heritage) consider themselves Latino. Latino, in effect, is the term for anyone from a Spanish-speaking country in North, Central and South Americas. Shakira is very happy to be considered a Latina and win Latin Grammys.

[quote]You are missing the most rabid republicans of all: Brazilians.

"3 in 4 Brazilians living in the US choose Biden"

Sorry, link ^