WHET Meg White of the White Stripes?

Patti Smith is her Mother in law.

forgot my r1 link:

Grosse* Point Farms, that is--excuse the typo

Former daughter in law of Patti.

How, r1?

She had bad anxiety and wanted to retreat from live performance, etc. That was the last I heard.

Saw the band when White Blood Cells was brand new. Man, what an album. What a brilliant live shows. One of the best I’d seen at the time. The night that I bought that album, I played it 3x in a row the same night. I couldn’t believe how raw and exciting it was, and how much I related to Jack’s lyrics. Of course, I was only 22 at the time, and it resonates less with me now, but it had such a huge impact on me as a music fan, guitarist, songwriter, etc.

I hear she fucked her brother :p

I wonder if her sex tape release by her ex was real? She retired around the time it got out..

Has she shown her perfect tits like Jewel? I think the face is quite ugly, though....

Real or faux?

I didn’t know there was a sex tape. It does look like her in the one photo.

She announced her retirement just around the same time news got out that there is a sex tape of her..

Not long ago someone bumped this 2018 thread about Meg:

I think she was just there for show and White played drums on the albums.

Who’s the guy in the SW’s tape?

[quote] I think she was just there for show and White played drums on the albums.

Uh, no. Have you actually heard the albums?

R14 absolutely not. She drummed on all of those albums. Part of why she got dragged through the mud by rock bro purists was because her drumming was fairly rudimentary. What all of the detractors failed to understand though is that she served exactly what was needed for the music they made—their niche was a punk/garage take on the blues, which really only needs a steady beat to sustain it. Meg was not a virtuoso, but she was a fine drummer in context.

Thank you, R17. That idiot “I don’t think Meg played on the albums” hasn’t a clue.

She didn’t play on the albums because ... why? The drumming was too difficult? Yet she was able to replicate the parts perfectly at their countless live shows? Makes no sense

I found this picture of her which is somewhat recent, and it looks like she's gained a lot of weight. It seems like she lives a bit of a hermit's life. By Jack's account, she was rather aloof when it came to making music—not sure if she didn't want to be there, was secretly jealous of him, or was just psychologically stunted, but it sounds like she was detached from what they were doing:

"She’s one of those people who won’t high five me when I get the touchdown. She viewed me that way of “Oh, big deal, you did it, so what?” Almost every single moment of the White Stripes was like that. We’d be working in the studio and something amazing would happen: I’m like, “Damn, we just broke into a new world right there!” And Meg’s sitting in silence. I remember hearing Ringo Starr say, “I always felt sorry for Elvis, because in the Beatles we had each other to talk about what it felt like. Elvis was by himself.” I was like, “Shit, try being in a two-piece where the other person doesn’t talk!” I would often look at her onstage and say, “I can’t believe she’s up there.” I don’t think she understood how important she was to the band, and to me and to music. She was the antithesis of a modern drummer. So childlike and incredible and inspiring. All the not-talking didn’t matter, because onstage? Nothing I do will top that."

R19 That’s a shame.

She looks sooo midwestern Frau it's unbelievable

So, what the fuck was wrong with her, then? Aspberger's???

Tracey Thorn was a much more interesting counterpart in an ambiguously male/female relationship duo.

As was Annie Lennox.

Her drumming served the purpose and yes it was nothing special. If you want to see a girl kick ass on the drums, and I do literally mean a girl, watch this phenom that has rockers from actual rock stars to fans and serious musicians in awe.

After Karen there was never any need for another girl drummer.

R19 sounds like she’s just a depressive type person. Or just really depressed!

Meg’s a better drummer than Dave Grohl.

Meg’s a better drummer than Dave Grohl.

r19 I have to say she's one of those people who looks better fat. IDK, it just suits her for some reason.

People said she retired because of "anxiety" like it's a bad thing. Very few mentally stable people can handle that kind of stardom, so I say good for her. It's not like her legacy is going anywhere.

R28 I prefer her drumming to Dave Grohl's—he's technically way more proficient, but does that make him "better"? I don't know. She had a very basic, almost tribal drumming style that you felt in your gut. Dave Grohl is flashy on the drums, but I don't find him more interesting to listen to. It's like the difference between rhythm guitarists and math rock shredders—I'd rather hear a repetitive, evocative chord progression than someone playing scales to show off. You can do things musically that are still interesting and attention-grabbing even at a rudimentary level.

I love Jack & Meg's little vignette in Jarmusch's COFFEE & CIGARETTES.

In a shadowy hipster bar (complete with jukebox and portait of Lee Marvin) a moody Jack mansplains Tesla coils to Meg (presented here as his sister, they were still doing that gimmick then), then tries to demo a coil of his own to her and predictably cocks it up. After a few quiet moments of thinking Meg coolly identifies the problem, then sends him to toddle off home and rejig the thing so she can drink her coffee and have a smoke in peace.

They weren't good for each other as a couple, and Meg is better off without Jack, but I have to admit I still ship them a little bit.

R5 She married Patti Smiths Son. I think his name is Jack. Incedentally.

R1 Imagine having Patti Smith as a mother in law. Fucking terrifying.

R21 I have always thought that Meg White looked like rural version of the frauest frau who ever fraued. She looks like she could just as easily been content working at the DQ, smoking cigs by the dumpster on her breaks. Waiting for her boyfriend Earl to pick her up after her shift to go drink Miller Lites in his truck down at the pond.

r34 I think the word you're looking for is norm-core.

R35 There you go. That's the word.

R34 / R36 she does have that anywhere USA suburban girl look about her, but I presume she was raised upper-middle-class, at least—she's from Grosse Point Farms, which has the highest tax bracket of any city in Michigan.

[quote] "She’s one of those people who won’t high five me when I get the touchdown. She viewed me that way of “Oh, big deal, you did it, so what?” Almost every single moment of the White Stripes was like that. We’d be working in the studio and something amazing would happen: I’m like, “Damn, we just broke into a new world right there!” And Meg’s sitting in silence.

Jack sounds unbearably needy, self-involved, histrionic, and somewhat narcissistic. I don't blame easygoing and even-tempered Meg for bailing on this mess.

R37 do you think perhaps Jack originally got close to Meg in the hope of inheriting some money, only to let her go when he realised he couldn't easily lock down the bag and get a cut? (Meg didn't want kids afaik).

She seems quite shy, introverted and sensitive. flat affect. I always suspected depressive or impaired in some way. Maybe that’s why her rudimentary drum style was so good?

R10 Faux. The face looks nothing like Meg's and the tits are way too small.

Reckon the last famous woman on Earth who could be convinced to make a sex tape would be Meg White...not her style.

My younger brother was obsessed with her. Loved her tits, shy affect and drumming.

Now he’s with a gal who looks just like fat Meg.

Thanks, R17. You've saved me the trouble of explaining (more in depth, obviously) that the White Stripes were garage rock. The dudebros who sneer at her drumming ignore that because they're triggered that she was in a successful band while their bands all failed. Regardless, I absolutely love the White Stripes and I'm a huge Jack White fan. I wish they could have stayed together, but I think Meg is introverted and struggled to deal with the media attention. It's a shame they fell out with each other. Jack loved her very much.

[quote] It's a shame they fell out with each other. Jack loved her very much.

Did he love *her*, or what she did for his career?

Call her all the unflattering names under the sun, the fact remains that her strange if homely mystique and cool and grace under pressure made The White Stripes what they were. Hell, Jack took her last name for the band and for his own life. Without Meg, could Jack ever have made it as big? I doubt it.

This seems to be one of those difficult relationships where a choice had to be made between the personal and the professional, and where perhaps one or both parties mixed these up.

This is all speculation, of course, as no-one knows what really happened, and honestly it’s no-one else’s business. Still, it’s human nature to be curious, and I for one still am. For my money (let me reiterate, pure conjecture on my part): Meg loved the local musician Jack she knew back in Detroit, and wanted to be with him in obscurity again, but while Jack in his turn loved Meg, he wouldn’t give up fame and success (and access to more famous musicians & beautiful women) just to be her bar-gigging or backyard-banjo-playing husband.

Self-trained or poorly trained artists have to decide between relearning or continuing on with reckless habits.

Also, Jack may have spawned musical experiences, but each came with 20 demands for “Little Room”..

[quote] Jack may have spawned musical experiences, but each came with 20 demands for “Little Room”..

Sorry, maybe I’m an idiot, but this only makes partial sense to me. You mean to say that Meg’s unwillingness to embrace a degree of fame and a larger stage would always have hamstrung Jack?

Like a moldy log the raccoons piss on.

Jack’s blue-dyed hair makes him look like a trendster prick trying to look young 🤡

‘Blue Orchid’ is the most monstrous performance of a drum-line put to tape in contemporary rock, and while it was popular on release, 21 years on Meg doesn’t get the respect she deserves for it.

Seeing Meg shed silent tears when Jack serenades her with 'White Moon', for the last time before she leaves the band, hurts my heart every time I see it.

"Did he love *her*, or what she did for his career?"

You do realise, R45, that Jack White has been in multiple bands and has had a successful solo career since the White Stripes split up? I like Meg, but she's done nothing since departing the WS. Jack White is extremely talented and has built a much deserved reputation within the music industry.

Yeah but none of his projects have been as good or as popular as White Stripes.

If it is her on leaked tape, perfect tits. The guy behind her has some dad bod.