Ghislaine Maxwell Loses Fight To Keep ‘Intimate’ Deposition Secret

In an ideal world, it won't be appealed, and documents will be released quickly and will include Trump revelations.

We just want the names.

She ain't dead yet?

Ol' bloated Billy must really be in some dire straits if he hasn't managed to "suicide" gizzy yet.

R3, I think you meant "bloated Donny." I mean, have you even seen Bill Clinton in the last ten years?

Holy cow! It's a 418-page statement.

She was a busy gal.

r4 Bill Barr is also bloated. Bill Barr has also tried to have a representative meet with Ms Maxwell, only Ghislaine's lawyers are smarter than Jeffrey's, and she is moved from cell to cell.

Oh c'mon, r4.

She's ridiculous to think anyone is actually interested in HER sex life, everybody just wants names. She's going to spend the rest of her life in jail, she doesn't need to worry anymore what anyone thinks about her sex life. She'll be forgotten soon enough.

Are you simple, R8? That was just the line she used to justify her fight to keep it sealed. Do you really think she'd admit to the court that she needs to keep it sealed because there's incriminating details in there that will hurt her defense in this case?

She's grasping at straws. And doubtless she's been promised that if she keeps her mouth shut about other people she's in a position to implicate, she'll get her reward. Making the deposition public could wreck that deal for her.

Bill Barr is finished. Jizz is going to snitch on his pervert father and pervert Babyhands. Let’s hope this all comes to light on November 1.

Wouldn't that be wonderful?

Good reading ahead.

"Intimate deposition" sounds like a feminine hygiene spray

[quote]Let’s hope this all comes to light on November 1.

November 1?!

People are voting now!

I wish her well

Hopefully someone will leak the documents line.

If they become public, will they need to be leaked?

I would think to get them out there before an appeal holds it up R17.

I'll admit, when I was a kid in the 90s, I never would have thought we would be living such "interesting" times.

I don’t know her.

Are we sure that Bill Barr isn't on a ventilator somewhere? We haven't heard from him in weeks it seems like.

Who do we think are the two high profile names who tried to block it? My money's on Trump and Clinton.

Following this ruling by the Second Circuit, when can we expect to have the document? An unexpurgated version would be best.

As little as I care about this cum-splattered cunt's, well, cum-splattered cunt, it fills me with joy to know that every sordid detail of her vile existence will be public knowledge.

I think Bill Clinton is involved too R22. If Trump was clean, you know he would have been roasting Bill all along in addition to his Hillary rants.

While we wait: "the boldface-name Ghislaine, who seemed to be everywhere at once, so socially connected and sexually self-assured that she once hosted a dinner for East Side socialites on the fine art of giving a blow job, with dildos at each place setting." This was from Vanity Fair in July.

Dildos at each place setting? Wow she puts us gays to shame! We usually get off sharing the same dildo.

Thanks R26. I hadn’t read that article. She was totally taken with Epstein, wasn’t she? Lowlifes attract lowlifes.

Egg-Shaped Penis, Egg-Shaped Penis, Egg-Shaped Penis

Hopefully, someone will produce an index the way Spy Magazine did with The Andy Warhol Diaries when they came out.

Yes, we'll need an index for those 418 pages. Are they going to be well-written?

She doesn’t want people to know she let the fists fly, and not in the violent way. 🤜 🤜 🌺

Prince Andrew and Fergie must be packing their bags so they can flee.

Jizz Lane, you in danger girl!

If she had hired Tiffany Trump Esq. to represent her, she wouldn’t be in this pickle.

Its ridiculous she hasn't been released on bail We'd get far more leaks if she were out.

I want a nice book I can leave out on the coffee table, like that Madonna sex book or the Starr Report.

R29, I was waiting for you. We’re you on the original thread?

Everyone here, you can actually be put in the DL Annual Special Edition 2020. All you have to do is post a single, full-color photograph of an egg-shaped penis. In addition, you will receive a certificate to the nearest Michelin-rated restaurant, plus a bottle of the latest Frederic Malle scent. Just a single photograph is all it takes folks.

A few names...

Jizzy sucked Fergies toes! Must be evidence somewhere...

R38, you perv, someone posted one of the police sketches that Virginia or another of the girls drew as evidence on the last jizzy lane thread.

You may have blocked that poster OR have your DL settings at "delicate flower" instead of "asbestos eyeballs" like the rest of us normal folk.

I knew the egg man and you, r41, are no egg man.

I want all the first spilled

If Bill goes down as a result of Barr and Trump going down?

Sorry Bill. I voted for you in my first ever election in 1996, but too bad!

R41, on the original egg-shaped penis thread, several of us were scrambling to find an image of ANY penis like this, much less a sketch of JE’s penis. Please post that sketch so I can move on with my masturbation.

[quote] you will receive a certificate to the nearest Michelin-rated restaurant,

Oh, that’s just silly. What does a tire company know about a restaurant?

The deposition and other docs must be publicly posted no later than Thursday, Oct 22 at 9:00 am.

Perfect! Redacted or not, the clock is ticking. Wait... This means... In less than two hours?

So part of this is young Virginia’s deposition. Should Prince Andrew be worried? If I remember right, she said she sawc Bill Clinton but he never touched her. Does anyone remember if she mentioned Trump?

Miami Herald has a good article this morning

[quote] The deposition and other docs must be publicly posted no later than Thursday, Oct 22 at 9:00 am.

Until they get an injunction while awaiting another appellate court to rule. You can’t unring the bell.

This seems to be it (?)

Is it over 400 pages, r52?

I was wrong at R52. There are 19 documents. That was only part.

Here's another.

R54 seems to be the one. 465 pages.

She was giving career advice to these young girls. You can make $7, $8, $9 per hour giving massages.

Thank you R54. The deposition really starts on page 6. The pages before that set up the context/rules of the deposition.

And how to turn a regular massage into a sexual massage. And Epstein enjoyed having his nipples squeezed.

"So Ms. Maxwell, when did you first recruit a female to work for Mr. Epstein?" (second time they're asking, it's the first question and her lawyer's already making a fuss)

She answers:

"First of all, can you please clarify the question. I don't understand what you mean by female, I don't understand what you mean by recruit."

!!!

"Did you ever bring someone who was under -- invite someone under the age of 18 to Jeffrey's home, any of his homes?"

"Can you repeat the question?"

from page 14... This is going to take a while.

Mar-a-Lago! That came quick!

Q Anon is a baseless, far-right conspiracy theory. It claims - without evidence - that celebrities, politicians, and even Royals are involved in sex crimes. The theory has been debunked by numerous media outlets.

This is pretty boring so far. She either denies everything or pretends not to understand the question.

[quote] I don't understand what you mean by female

Who knew that ol' Jizzy was a trans activist.

She really does spin. What is said about Mar-A-Lago

For having billions, she has hideous taste and style. All of her clothes are ugly as fuck, just like she is. That 2-piece fringed denim number looks like it was made from Butterick pattern from JoAnn Fabrics. And that lesbian-matron hairstyle certainly doesn't help her hard, plain ugly mug either. I don't know who was getting it up for this desperate freak. Probably why she resorted to trafficking young girls, so she could get in on any part of the action. I wish someone WOULD kill her, but only after the names come out.

Spoilers: her defense so far (page 37) is the "I don't remember!" defense. A well-known defense used by many criminals, who, very conveniently, "forget" all about their crimes. It's so much easier that way.

Things take a turn for the worse for Jizz Lane when they start mentioning Nadia Marcinkova.

"I don't know what you mean if she looked like a child" is a defense for the ages.

[quote] That 2-piece fringed denim number looks like it was made from Butterick pattern from JoAnn Fabrics.

This is the gayest thing I’ve read today. And that’s saying something on Datalounge!

[quote]Spoilers: her defense so far (page 37) is the "I don't remember!" defense. A well-known defense used by many criminals, who, very conveniently, "forget" all about their crimes.

Which is exactly the advice any decent attorney would give their client prior to a deposition, whether guilty or innocent.

Once you say "I don't remember" there is no where else for the questioner to go. If they repeat the question, your attorney will simply pop in with "Asked and answered".

If you give any other answer, it allows for a deeper line of questioning that can go in any direction, including directions for which you are unprepared.

Until they come up with the “does this refresh your recollection” item.

"I don't understand the question, what did you mean bring?"

If opposing counsel has a "does this refresh your recollection" item and your attorney hasn't prepared you for it, you need a new attorney.

At a deposition?

There’s no Brady rule for a civil deposition.

If you’re asked if you’ve ever met someone and you say “I don’t remember,” even though you did meet that person, they could produce a photograph of you with that person to “refresh your recollection.” Opposing counsel would’ve had no right to the photograph beforehand.

For soap fans, Chloe Lane (actress Nadia Bjorlin) from Days of our Lives was trafficked by Epstein too. I was surprised to see her identified in the deposition.

[quote]Which is exactly the advice any decent attorney would give their client prior to a deposition, whether guilty or innocent.

Decent attorneys advise their clients to lie?

Sadly, many actresses escort on the side. There was a TV actress who wrote about it on Medium (she was between jobs and needed the money, did it once, hated it - and hers was a "no touch" deal, she was only parading around on a yacht).

A. What are you asking me?

Q. I'm asking if the massage therapists --

A. Are you asking me about underage girls?

Lol!!

R78 Oh really? Do you remember the name of the actress? I used to love that show.

I'd never heard of the show before so I can't give you the name, and I didn't know the actress either (25-30 maybe). I think she was Canadian.

She wrote about her experience "yachting" on the website called Medium.com, that has nothing to do with the TV show of the same name. This story has literally nothing to do with the hit TV show Medium.

Julie Brown says some of the names redacted are Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew

"I have no idea what you are talking about" another classic line that sounds like a full confesssion, and that Ghislaine Maxwell uses repeatedly whenever asked about Virginia Roberts Giuffre.

She also says that the court redacted other men who may have been present at Jeffers homes or plane. She is unclear as to what basis those names were redacted.

[quote]Julie Brown says some of the names redacted are Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew

Bill is actually mentioned, unredacted. But since this is about the Virginia Giuffre accusations, it was just in the context of her claims of seeing him on the island. I guess his name could have been redacted elsewhere in the deposition though, like maybe if it's something that implicates him directly.

Will trump use the Clinton stuff as a distraction? Or is he smart enough to not bring Epstein up?

[quote]Will trump use the Clinton stuff as a distraction? Or is he smart enough

Gonna stop you right there.

What time is the "presidential debate" tonight?

Ok I found the index at the end of the document, where even the redactions are alphabetical. I'm pretty sure one is for Clinton. I looked at a few pages but didn't see anything incriminating yet, just asking about him flying on the plane etc. Sometimes the name is redacted and sometimes it isn't. Again though Giuffre claimed to see him there (though she didn't accuse him of anything beyond that), so I guess they would ask about him as a result of these claims. Seemingly no mention of Trump, but maybe another accuser will come forward...

I thought the plump rump backed out?

The Royals are going to have to hide Prince Andrew even more. He’s toast.

"Bill Barr is going to go down as either the greatest attorney general in the history of the country, or he’s going to go down as, you know, a very sad situation,” Trump said then."

A Redditor did an analysis of Epstein’s “black book”. First part here:

Don’t get your panties in a bunch. Just because someone’s name was in his contacts doesn’t mean they all did illegal stuff.

For some reason, Jizz Lane seems to think human trafficking is ok, as long as they're over 18. Of course, solliciting a minor and procuring a minor (both of which Jeff Epstein was convicted of in 2008) is worse, but still.

Details, details.

Pffft

R96 I object to the form and foundation.

*prissy queen voice*

DL, r97 is making a frivolous objection. The foundation has been laid (unlike r97 I might add).

And as for my form, oh, honey, it’s purrrrrfect.

Actual answer by Ghislaine Maxwell to a question from her Deposition 2016

"So whilst I appreciate this might not seem like a smart question, what do you mean by prostitution, what are you asking me exactly?"

Priceless.

There are literally 4 consecutive pages of this, 278 to 281.

She actually said “whilst”?

Guilty as charged, Your Honor.

Is she a lesbian? She is ugly as hell....

r73 aka the Lucile Bluth defense

Or the Malcolm In The Middle defense:

Yes, no, maybe, can you repeat the question?

It may suck but we have to admit that we are living in some of the juiciest times in American History. These last two years would never be accepted as a movie script. Too unbelievable. Yet here we are watching it all unfold everyday in real time.. A never ending tale.

r94=Hillary Clinton

The black book linked to by r39 shows that Epstein was a true idiot. On page 84 among his medical contacts was someone he went to for Ear Conning [sic].

He certainly got conned with that!

Slate shows you how to crack the redactions...

[quote]It turns out, though, that those redactions are possible to crack. That’s because the deposition—which you can read in full here—includes a complete alphabetized index of the redacted and unredacted words that appear in the document. For example, after cracking the redactions, we know that Maxwell was asked about an email that Dershowitz allegedly sent to Epstein. In that email, Dershowitz reportedly wrote that he was “working on several possible articles about unfairness in the legal process that allows false charges to be inserted into legal documents.”

[quote]Here’s how to deduce the redacted words, using former President Bill Clinton as an example.

[quote]You can see in the index that a word that falls alphabetically between clients and clock appears on quite a number of pages. From this, we know that the word starts with the letters CL.

NYT does a rundown on the Jizz dep...

[quote]Over and over again in the 418-page deposition, Ms. Maxwell, 58, rejected accusations of wrongdoing. She denied that she had recruited minors to give Mr. Epstein sexual massages. She denied that she knew he was abusing girls and young women. She denied having engaged in sexual acts herself with underage people. “I can’t think of anything I have done that is illegal,” she said.

[quote]At one point, Ms. Maxwell was asked more than a dozen times if she believed that Mr. Epstein had abused any minors — and each time she failed to answer. At another point, she parried inquiries about a laundry basket of sex toys, telling the lawyer asking questions, “I need you to define a sex toy.”

[quote]Eventually, Ms. Maxwell became so frustrated that she suddenly erupted into a “physical outburst” and knocked the court reporter’s computer off the conference room table, according to a separate document released with her deposition. She later apologized for her behavior, the deposition said.