British soccer player Matt Morton comes out

Would it have killed you to provide a link, OP?

He looks more rugby.

Sorry, forgot the link

[quote] Sorry, forgot the link

You should have forgotten the link; it's from Outsport.

Oi mate!

I'd hit that HARD

Love those soccer legs! ⚽

Sexy as fuck!

Woof.

Thetford Town!!! Which division are they in???? His coming out means nothing since he is not a bloody Premier League player!!! MEH! Not even in a league club, he could have been a lorry driver in East Anglia.

I'm skeptical about the "discovered I was gay at 28/29" narrative. I expect a publicist crafted it to account for the dating women throughout his twenties, to ward off accusations that he was "using women" as beards.

Agreed, liking dick is not like finding loose change in the sofa. I bet his browser history always knew he was gay.

[Quote] Morton says he had no inkling either until he met someone in January 2018 and found himself inexplicably attracted. "It felt very surreal to me, but at the same time it felt very natural," he says. His relationships with women throughout his 20s had been entirely unremarkable but he had never questioned his sexuality before.

I discovered I was gay as my athletic career reached its end and with it any prospects for lucrative endorsements.

He's a player-manager, though. And he admits he's not a talented player.

Interview (off topic).

The skeptics on this site annoy the heck out of me. People have their own journey to coming out and it’s different for everyone of us. Be happy for the guy, and think of those closeted guys that will be inspired by him to come out.

Meeting one person at 28 makes your realize you're gay? I don't buy it.

*you

The DL fallacy of composition takes over the thread.

He felt cock up his ass and then he suddenly realized he was gay

R20 I don't understand what you mean by 'fallacy of composition'.

R17 You type stupid frau, you fat cunt.

R11/R17/R18 I had a boyfriend in my late twenties who was thirty-two, and he had never been with another bloke, or thought about it much. He was very attractive to me, yet would qualify as a nerd with a hot body.

He had girls up until we met. He said he became aware of a slight attraction to a select few men after university. He said he never thought he was gay, just that he had a certain appreciation for some men. He was very nonchalant about the whole thing.

We all have different internal dialogue going on in our heads. No one should expect everyone to perceive such things all the same.

After nearly four years, my ex went on to date a woman, then another bloke a few years after that. I think he's bisexual, but same late bloomer thing.

Bisexual makes sense, because some people can be mostly gay or straight with a side of the opposite attraction (hence bisexual). It's the flipping completely to the other side that makes no sense. You found those women attractive or you didn't.

He looks like someone Marc Jacobs would date.

R25 I think many aren't as cerebral in explaining their attractions. I also believe most bisexuals prefer one sex over the other, based on those I've known. If he had only fleeting thoughts on the matter, and doesn't find many blokes attractive, I could see having had no experience as part of the puzzle. I think the phrase "He hasn't met the right bloke yet"sort of fits here. He may have found those women attractive at the time, but nothing to compare them to until now.

I think many gay and bisexual men often come to realise their orientation after a close connection or seemingly innocent crush at first. It's how I realised I was gay after falling in love with my best mate at thirteen. Not everyone has the gift of knowing himself or herself well.

Whatever the reason, I'm glad to have him on our team, rather than being cynical and judgmental of him.

[Quote] If he had only fleeting thoughts on the matter, and doesn't find many blokes attractive, I could see having had no experience as part of the puzzle.

In the world we live in, same sex thoughts about men wouldn't be fleeting, they would freak a "straight" man the fuck out.

I'll also posit the question if it happens with women who realise they're more fulfilled by a woman, why can't it be so for a bloke? Unusual perhaps to most of us, but entirely plausible in my view.

R28 I don't think that's necessarily true for all men. That's a generalisation in my estimation. British men are different to American men anyhow. There's more intimacy and physical closeness amongst athletes to be certain. I played Rugby, and coached, and there's a tonne of homoerotic and sensual shit that goes down that wouldn't play well with the Americans. I think American men are more reserved, so as not to appear "gay".

[Quote] I'll also posit the question if it happens with women who realise they're more fulfilled by a woman, why can't it be so for a bloke? Unusual perhaps to most of us, but entirely plausible in my view.

Men are more visual.

[Quote] I played Rugby, and coached, and there's a tonne of homoerotic and sensual shit that goes down

All the more reason for discovering you like men early on...

R28 If you were straight. If you were gay or bisexual and unsure you wouldn't have other "straight" men's minds to compare to your own. I didn't "come out" until I was 26. I liked women, lived in a romantic relationship with a woman, and figured all guys admired other guys the way I did, they just didn't talk about it.

He's at pains to point out that his father is not homophobic, but a la Cher, didn't want his offspring to be gay... Matt said that he felt like he disappointed his father. Morton also mentions that he's prone to anger... I think there's a lot of denial that's been going on with Mr. Morton and that it's been going on for decades.

R30 Again, more generalisations. I happen to be one of those gay men who isn't attracted to most other men. I have a quite limited array of what I find sexually compelling. We're not all the same.

R32 Thanks for sharing that. That was how my ex thought, or assumed everything was a bit sexual for most, but that didn't necessarily imply you were gay.

R31 I knew I had romantic mad love for my mate at thirteen; I wasn't playing rugby then. I hadn't thought of any other lads at the time like that, though I was developed physically, was in an early puberty. It was the romantic feelings towards him first, over any sex.

So this guy is not famous? Hard pass

Or he knew he was gay all along, but didn't want to admit that he lied about it

Would it have killed you to have posted a picture OP? Would it? Would it really have been that hard to think of others for a moment and post a picture so that others would know who the fuck you’re talking about instead of being an asshole and just squealing like a girl, “oh he’s gay!” And not even think that not everyone knows who you’re talking about. You’re an asshole OP. A real smelly asshole.

[Quote] I have a quite limited array of what I find sexually compelling.

You ain't special, bitch.

Is he related to me?

No, but he IS related to Morten Harket.

R37 He DID apologise, and explained he had forgotten. Then he made the link@ R3. It's cocktail hour; go fix yourself a drink.

R38 You sound lovely too. Why so many angry cunts stinking up this thread?

That's a DL meme (The "Would it have killed you, OP" troll).

R37, calm down. I forgot the link but posted it at r3.

[Quote] calm down.

That poster is calm, and merely trying to be funny, bless his heart.

OLD NEWS!

Good for him and I'm sure it is challenging stereotypes locally but the headline would be more truthful if it said "Amateur sports person comes out".

I think that DL meme plays well only when it's apparent there isn't any link... not 37 replies after the correction. For whatever that's worth.

I think it plays best when never used at all.

Let me get this straight (figuratively, not sexually), so to the non-gay community the message is, accept us because humanity is a kaleidoscope; appreciate the differences each being brings. But within this community, we are all the same, and have had the exact same experience? Give me a break.

Everyone, everyone has a different journey. Welcome, Matt.

You realize we're critiquing a coming out statement that has come to us through the media?

R49 Brilliant post. I dig the picture as well. I think the sentiments here are indicative of a much greater problem for humanity. Increasingly common, it would appear that if someone is exactly like us, we have no respect, or sympathy for their experiences, their values, their thoughts, or their ideas.

Everyone wants to pounce on anyone different, and incapable of giving the benefit of the doubt.

He's beautiful

I don't trust 'Outsports' as a news source.

It's biased, it exaggerates and I vaguely half-remember some Woke-Crime it committed a while back.

R49 R51 Yep, it's a central problem. Lack of empathy. My own mind, my own opinion, my own experience must be exactly what you have too. We talk to readily and are unable to listen.

^^ too readily

C'mon now. That Keegan Hirst guy came out in the newspapers and then went on a reality TV dating show when he already a boyfriend. Morton came out on his own social media last year. Someone in the media has put stars in his eyes, just like Hirst.

[Quote] We talk to readily

Is readily like Siri?

R57 See 55. Beat you to the "oh my"

He's 31, which is almost 35, which is half of the Biblical 'three-score-and-ten', which is middle-aged.

R54 Cheers. Utter dearth of civilised debate as well. If someone agrees with another on even 97.9% of issues, that little difference of opinion oft ends with a scorched earth policy, and disrespectful comments.

It's certainly not just here, but everywhere: divisiveness , anger, and undermining others' dignity.

The irony of you tarring others with one brush...

This soccer player didn't.

Better late than never. None of the grammarians caught my omission of the word NOT, in R51. Someone's slipping.

Were not slipping , R63. We just gave up at the word "dig".

[quote]No, but he IS related to Morten Harket.

Oh, the ignorance! The name is Meghan Markle.

He's quite the sexy boy, he is. Looks very intense.

One aspect of Morton's own words that I can specifically relate to is how he said it felt "natural". Despite my own experiences with women, just to "try" it, so to speak, that is exactly how I felt. It's not that my experimenting was not pleasant, but in contrast, being with a man feels utterly natural to me, whereas being with a woman did not feel that way. Make no mistake, I adore women, find them beautiful and attractive, but it isn't natural for me to have sex with them.

Maybe an analogy to trying new foods is relevant here. Some may be open minded, and adventuresome, but until they try it, they're not entirely sure of the outcome of their experience. I think if we speak of a metaphorical buffet table of sexual acts, some may get it. Even within the same orientation, we all aren't down with the same dishes, or acts.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[Quote] Maybe an analogy to trying new foods is relevant here. Some may be open minded, and adventuresome, but until they try it, they're not entirely sure of the outcome of their experience. I think if we speak of a metaphorical buffet table of sexual acts, some may get it. Even within the same orientation, we all aren't down with the same dishes, or acts.

We're often attracted to food by sight and/or smell, though...

I hope Matt releases pictures like Keegan—

R64 Thanks for proving that earlier point of dismissing people for petty differences, failing to listen, or not willing to hear someone's truth due to their language being different to their own. You really are a stellar example of not being capable of celebrating others' differences, even in colloquial terms. Too judgemental to even ignore that word, for some reason.

Words have power.

R69 That may very well be true to a point, but I love Indian food, and much of it isn't much to look at! I like stinky cheeses like Chaum as well, and that stuff doesn't smell like anything anyone ought to be eating!

I bet his boyfriend smells fine BTW.

Does big Matt have a boyfriend?

He is sexy. Any of you on here ever had him? If so spill the beans. I’m sure it’s a nice hot dog.

R71/R72 I like "dig" and other 70s slang. It's my voice. I was born in the sixties. Sorry you seem so hung up on that. My voice and my own choice of words have power. There's too much to do with others trying to feel superior here. I find most Americans choose odd ways of expressing themselves. I don't go on about it in these threads however.

Please forgive us, R76, we are being frivolous.

[Quote] I like "dig" and other 70s slang. It's my voice. I was born in the sixties.

[Quote] I find most Americans choose odd ways of expressing themselves.

You sound defensive AND judgmental yourself. Spare us your "What's wrong with the world..." diatribes. It's very "Get off my lawn!," ya dig?

R77 👍🤓

Serving douchebro.

5'6"?

R76 Can you dig it?

His nose has been damaged in the scrum.

Somewhere, Carra & Neville are swearing nervously.

with me when an active NFL player comes out. Nothing to see here folks move along.

R78 I'm defending and celebrating a fellow gay man, and an athlete's coming out story. Nothing shabby or disrespectful about that. I stand in solidarity with all athletes who are brave enough to live openly, and share their experiences. They're much needed for our youth, and other gay blokes who are in the closet.

I'm not inordinately defensive for replying to the complaints about my using slang. You come off as yet ANOTHER petty, sour cunt.

The fact that his IG handle is "themattmorton" tells you all you need to know. He's looking to become a personality.

All your lofty language only to end your post with "cunt."

R88 Why get hung up on the language so much? If you talk like a cunt, you get called a cunt every now and again. You dig? Learn to play nice with others FFS! I never insulted anyone until you cunts started your picky petty crap. You just wanted to drag this bloke, for no good reason, and expected the proverbial echo chamber again, so typical here. Give the man a break, as well as others who speak differently.

[Quote] Learn to play nice with others FFS!

On a site for pointless bitchery?

R90 I sure hope you contributed something positive to this thread, however since you didn't sign your posts, I can't be sure of that. I'd like to give you the benefit of doubt however. I'm not much for the pointless bitchery. Highly overrated in the absence of wit. I thought this would be a more positive thread going in.

That's another difference we have as gay men, not all of us see the virtue or value in bitchiness. I accept that in female dogs and cats in heat, and from sassy drag queens. It simply doesn't fit most grown gay men however.

This site revels in bitchery. Why would click on any thread here hoping for the opposite? Your best bet is probably the pet threads.

The bitches here should hold fire until Matt gets it together and gets his PA and his PR to manufacture some slutty visuals and appearances in gay media in order to win our approval.

At least it would be more honest than that prick-teasing merchandiser Ben Cohen.

At least Ben has a leaked JO tape.

He's cute.

R92 Thanks for the advice; I do enjoy the animal threads very much. I try to be a kind and understanding man. I don't believe that's at all popular here for a minute. Bitchiness maybe one thing, but the instant a poster defends himself (such as myself here) within reason, and then an onslaught of ad hominems come my way, I only see bullies. They can dish it out at the most gentle posters who simply disagree, but the minute that beleaguered poster defends himself, all hell seems to break loose.

Whatever happened to "touché", or "you really have me by the balls there", or just "we'll agree to disagree"? Some may argue being nice may be a cliché or overrated, but the bitchiness often isn't played out fairly. When one bests another, either in logic, or a witty retort, sometimes that instigator must move on, whether he acknowledges defeat or not. That never fucking happens here. It's tedious how so many gay blokes have modelled their ascerbic personalities, and style of debate on vile, bitchy old women. You can be a very effective cunt without becoming a stereotype of a nasty bitchy, -insert noun here of your choice-.

[Quote] It's tedious how so many gay blokes have modelled their ascerbic personalities, and style of debate on vile, bitchy old women.

Do you have a good relationship with your mother?

R97 An excellent one in fact. She isn't that sort.

R85, I guess everyone who's not in the NFL should stay in the closet *rolls eyes*

R97 Most of my best mates happen to be women, lesbians, and straight men. I suppose I never really enjoyed the company of gay men who are insecure, hostile, and bitchy. I strive to be positive, and a gentleman. Much of what passes here as humour, or wit is far from it.

The most insecure people are those who are perpetually expending energy in tearing others down; whether that's with petty criticism that's over the top and superficial, or the incessant trolling after a difference of opinion.

[Quote] I never really enjoyed the company of gay men who are insecure, hostile, and bitchy.

And you typify those attributes as those of "old women"?

R101 The nagging, constant criticism, and the holding of grudges which leads to trolling? Yes, yes I do. I think many on this forum think the Housewives of Bravo, and other feckless, vapid bitchy women are their role models, and the epitome of being cool and funny.

I don't believe all gay are like this, but they're in the majority here. Just read some of the threads on tragic mums, and you can understand they've modelled them.

So you're no less hack in your takedowns than the ones you rail against...

My theory is that once you've had cock- you can't go bock.

But if these newbies think they're going to have the same kind of monogamous, steady relationships they had with women, they have another think coming.

R103 Let it go... Don't perpetuate negativity please, and enough "following" me. Have a good evening.

r105

Find another forum. You'll be happier.

[Quote] My theory is that once you've had cock- you can't go bock.

Stop trying to make bock happen.

R106 No, sorry, you don't get to do that. Staying here, and once again, goodnight Irene.

[Quote] No, sorry, you don't get to do that.

You're not sorry. And don't call me Shirley.

I can smell the smegma from here.

Wow Irene's been busy:18 trolling comments after my posts here. This is EXACTLY what I'm talikng about. Thanfully there is the cunt control feature. Good evening wasn't good enough apparently, so goodbye for good Irene. Have a nice fulfilling life you silly fuck!

[Quote] goodbye for good Irene.

That is camptastic! Kudos.

Cheers R112

Time for your meds and beddy-bye Irene.

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He's not Christiano Ronaldo and he didn't come out until he was 30. He is a coward and a nobody.

But I am COVID free! (I think.)

The original is always better.

Is he a top or a bottom? Involvement in team sports implies top, but the duckface selfies don't.

R119 Collective DL opinion would more than likely argue versatile, as allegedly younger gay men are.

R119 -- Is there some unwritten requirement that this be public information? Is there a standard format to include that info in press releases? Can you post your prior public announcement on this topic for everyone's future guidance? Jeez...

[quote] Involvement in team sports implies top, but the duckface selfies don't.

Funny.

He's one of the hottest out rugby players. I'll take him.

Rugby? He plays soccer.

Americans call all European ball players "rugby" players.

Sorry, meant buggry. :)

R126 I wonder if this solid, muscled man does do buggery?

A lot of men don't do buggery, you know.