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The Making and Remaking of Timothee Chalamet

Can anybody say over the top? When will this mediocre actor be over?

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by Anonymousreply 214Yesterday at 3:12 AM

Does Ratboy even have anything to promote?

by Anonymousreply 110/15/2020

Oh wait, this was probably arranged before Dune was pushed back a full year.

by Anonymousreply 210/15/2020

R1: Not at the moment but I'm sure this article was published to accompany yesterday's announcement that he's been cast in the Netflix film Don't Look Up. So basically it's just Hollywood continuing to shove Ratboy down our throats as the most talented, the most beautiful, etc.

by Anonymousreply 310/15/2020

Yet you’re here, publishing a thread about Timothee Chalamet OP

Good job

by Anonymousreply 410/15/2020

OP and R1 will drop dead long before Timmy does. Sock it, fat hoes, until you fatly die.

by Anonymousreply 510/15/2020

That’s a lovely pic of Timmy, less rodenty than usual and it doesn’t show his pallid, sickly body.

by Anonymousreply 610/15/2020

You’re not helping your cause when you continually start threads about this retard.

by Anonymousreply 710/15/2020

[QUOTE] That’s a lovely pic of Timmy, less rodenty than usual and it doesn’t show his pallid, sickly body.

Yeah he does look hot there. That’s what most people see when they think of him, and that explains his popularity (for those who can’t seem to figure it out). If he’d just put on a minimal amount of muscle, he’d be the ultimate twink.

by Anonymousreply 810/15/2020

Still trying to prove that he's straight I see.

by Anonymousreply 910/15/2020

That part where he said a 30 something Julliard actor could replace him and make him feel like a piece of shit.... that can't come soon enough.

by Anonymousreply 1010/15/2020

When will he be over? WHEN?

by Anonymousreply 1110/15/2020

He's a dream. A God among men.

by Anonymousreply 1210/15/2020

He must be related to someone in show business. Or he’s fucking an older gentleman in show business. His talent certainly isn’t putting him in these movies.

by Anonymousreply 1310/15/2020

R13: He must give the best blowjobs since Nancy Reagan if we have endless PR like this calling him the most talented and the most beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 1410/15/2020

I think he´s more talented as a model than as an actor.

by Anonymousreply 1510/15/2020

I love that article mentioned the all moron panel of actors and directors who have to pretend that he's Aristotle.

by Anonymousreply 1610/15/2020

I think he’s cute and I loved him in Little Women . Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 1710/15/2020

He's the best young actor working in Hollywood today. He made Armie Hammer look like a beginner in CMBYN.

He has two Oscar-bait movies coming out next year--Dune and Don't Look Up.

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by Anonymousreply 1810/15/2020

I want the vulgar poster with poor spelling & grammar to weigh in on this.

by Anonymousreply 1910/15/2020

[quote]I think he´s more talented as a model than as an actor.

R15 just lowered the bar for models across the land.

To the FLOOR, he lowered it.

by Anonymousreply 2010/15/2020

He reminds me of Peter Evans, in that they are both getting less and less attractive as they age.

by Anonymousreply 2110/15/2020

I'm surprised the article didn't mention his relationship with Armie Hammer. That's a very big element in Timmy's life for them to just gloss over like that.

by Anonymousreply 2210/15/2020

R22 Armie ain't shit

by Anonymousreply 2310/15/2020

R22: Clearly a deliberate move by his massive PR who demand and insist that we worship at his altar.

by Anonymousreply 2410/15/2020

R24 Why talk about Armie in any case.

He's toxic right now

by Anonymousreply 2510/15/2020

[quote]The Making and Remaking of Timothee Chalamet

Do you think they could make and remake a decent ass for him while they're at it?

by Anonymousreply 2610/15/2020

When dumbass people quit creating posts about him every day

by Anonymousreply 2710/15/2020

[quote]Do you think they could make and remake a decent ass for him while they're at it?

And a humanoid face, R26.

by Anonymousreply 2810/15/2020

[quote]When will this mediocre actor be over?

When posts about him on DL go away. Please go away.

by Anonymousreply 2910/15/2020

R9 He's gonna try until he's not relevant anymore, but still

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by Anonymousreply 3010/15/2020

[quote] When will this mediocre actor be over?

Never, when even the people who think he is mediocre actor are starting threads about him.

by Anonymousreply 3110/15/2020

Datalounge at his best at being jealous ugly bitches

You will rot in your graves before he goes down

by Anonymousreply 3210/15/2020

R32 All that crying will give you crow's feet.

by Anonymousreply 3310/15/2020

Needs to wax that unibrow.

by Anonymousreply 3410/15/2020

R32=SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK SHRIEK!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 3510/15/2020

R32 Actually, I don't think he's got many years left as Hollywood's darling. He's already an odd fit for the image he's trying to project. Wandering around the countryside in red rubber boots and a plaid coat like a lost little boy? Some of his mannerisms during the photoshoot were embarrassingly childish. Isn't he 24 now? The concept was odd and the interview answers seemed like they were processed by an algorithm designed to please the maximum number of people. All very calculated and inauthentic. One endless humblebrag. Come to think of it, I still have no idea who this guy really is... Next.

by Anonymousreply 3610/15/2020

Dear god! The shit writers exalt, to meet a deadline, at these unreadable rags is beyond me.

Will the writer of this article remember ANY salient point from it a month from now?

by Anonymousreply 3710/15/2020

R36 Well I usually feel that way about his interviews but not this one. I mean, he's actually talking about what you are saying, the fact that he is so desperate to please people and not mess up or say the wrong thing all the time. Admitting that is authenticity.

In just over a year, he'll officially be in his late 20s, so yes, there will maybe be another guy in his early 20s to come and take that slot soon. (Although maybe not, since I can't remember the last one people really got excited for before Chalamet). But providing he doesn't fuck up in his personal life, his career isn't going anywhere because he's being smart about it. He's working with renowned directors, those that consistently get Oscar love. And not only is he working with them, but he forms clear bonds with them, which will make them want to hire him again. You can see that from the quotes from others in that article. Obviously Greta Gerwig has already hired him twice, Wes Anderson considers him a part of his acting troupe already etc.

by Anonymousreply 3810/15/2020

If only the title was The Destruction of Timothee Chalamet.

by Anonymousreply 3910/15/2020

R38 I think it’s a bit early to refer to Gerwig as a renowned director, she more like an anomaly.

by Anonymousreply 4010/15/2020

[quote]When dumbass people quit creating posts about him every day

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Back at you, OP!

by Anonymousreply 4110/15/2020

R40 I don't think so. She's directed only two movies, yes, but both were commercial successes, both were nominated for Best Picture, both got into the 90s on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. It's pretty unlikely that she'll follow them up with dud after dud. And then there's her history as a screenwriter.

by Anonymousreply 4210/15/2020

very excited to see DUNE! can not wait!

by Anonymousreply 4310/15/2020

R40 Hollywood is too misogynistic, I don’t see female directors as a sustainable thing. She doesn’t look to be the one to beat the odds, she’ll be a footnote for doing some small woman’s films and that’s it.

by Anonymousreply 4410/15/2020

R44 What? Both of her movies have been super successful, why would studios not hire her? It's misogynistic in terms of getting your foot through the door but she full on kicked it open.

by Anonymousreply 4510/15/2020

“I don’t see female directors as a sustainable thing.”

R44 is giving us 1920s-level sexism.

by Anonymousreply 4610/15/2020

BLECH

by Anonymousreply 4710/15/2020

I see Gerwig getting ground up and spit out and ending up like Frances Farmer in the end. If tough women like Penny Marshall and Nora Ephron couldn’t completely breakthrough, there no way wilting flower Gerwig will.

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by Anonymousreply 4810/15/2020

He's cute and has nice hair. But he is not sexy, he is not beautiful and he is not handsome. Like Robert Pattinson and Harry Styles, his looks are extremely hyped up. Outside of the internet, nobody talks about him. He isn't that famous or well-known. Leonardo DiCaprio, Ryan Reynolds, Matt Damon and Mark Wahlberg are well-known. I hear girls talk about Noah Centineo, Zayn, Michael B Jordan and Shawn Mendes as young hot guys but never Timothee. His popularity seems to be confined to fangirls of Call Me By Your Name, a movie which a lot of people I know in real life didn't even watch.

by Anonymousreply 4910/15/2020

I mean, I think the point is that he hasn't had a string of teen-friendly Netflix movies like Noah Centineo, he hasn't been part of a global boyband like Zayn, he hasn't been in one of the highest grossing blockbusters of all time like Michael B Jordan. He has starred in movies largely made for adults, that have been exclusively indies and mid-budgets. And yet he DOES have a large fanbase of teens that wait outside his hotel in somewhere like Budapest, that give him over 3 billion views on TikTok etc. No one would have believed 5 years ago that a Luca Guadagnino movie could produce such a star. But his fanbase clearly expands beyond that now. Little Women grossed over $100m domestic and $200m worldwide and he played the love interest that girls pine for.

by Anonymousreply 5010/15/2020

This pretty much tells you all you need to know about Gerwig’s directing, there’s no way a Nickelson or. Deniro is going to put up with someone like this.

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by Anonymousreply 5110/15/2020

As if she needs a Nicholson or De Niro. She gets her actors Oscar nominated anyway.

by Anonymousreply 5210/15/2020

Nicholson? De Niro?

Aren't they dead, anyway?

by Anonymousreply 5310/15/2020

De Niro's 20 latest films are stinking shit!!! Oh, please, auntie R51.

by Anonymousreply 5410/16/2020

De Niro's 20 latest films are stinking shit!!! Oh, please, auntie R51.

by Anonymousreply 5510/16/2020

I don't think Mr. Wallace Beery will take kindly to the antics of these lady directors!

by Anonymousreply 5610/16/2020

The Ratboy film is due for a remake, it could be Timothy's break out leading role!

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by Anonymousreply 5710/16/2020

During recessions skinny male stars are less appealing.

by Anonymousreply 5810/16/2020

Chalamet has a face like a dropped pie.

by Anonymousreply 5910/16/2020

No. he doesn't, r59, you fucking idiot.

The coat he's wearing in this pic, OTOH...

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by Anonymousreply 6010/16/2020

James Cusati-Moyer, Tony-nominated yesterday for his role as Dustin in Slave Play, shares this month's GQ with coverboy Tim O'Tay. He's 31. All I can think of is what an excellent Oliver he'd've made.

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by Anonymousreply 6110/16/2020

R50 i guess the difference between Timothee and Leo and Depp is that TC has a huge social media following that stans for him as opposed to traditional media and TV. You can be popular with millions online but still unknown with many in real life who don't follow you.

by Anonymousreply 6210/16/2020

R62 Well yes but I think that's the way it goes with most stars nowadays. He states that himself in the interview: 'Hollywood is different, the media is different, fans are different, movies are different, the world is different. “I've realized that as much as these heroes of mine mean to me, and as grateful as I am when they offer me advice, even they acknowledge it's just a different thing now.”'

I don't think that's something specific to him. The last real movie star that managed to become a household name at the same time as becoming an internet sensation was probably Jennifer Lawrence. I don't know that it will happen again, I think people will always be known online first.

by Anonymousreply 6310/16/2020

Overrated little rat.

by Anonymousreply 6410/16/2020

Why do teenage girls always like these guys that look like lesbians. He looks like Christie McNichol and Lily Tomlinson made a person.

by Anonymousreply 6510/16/2020

R65: It’s because guys who look like him have that sexually non threatening look. A guy like that isn’t going to ravage you in the bedroom. As strange as it is, Hollywood is forcing bland looking actors and actresses and making us accept them as sex symbols these days.

by Anonymousreply 6610/16/2020

This motherfucker is officially over-exposed in 3, 2, 1...

by Anonymousreply 6710/16/2020

R65: I don’t get it either but it’s GQ after all. Since the beginning, GQ has hyped the shit out of this kid and touting him as cover star, generational, fashion icon, sex symbol, etc.

by Anonymousreply 6810/16/2020

What r7 said. I dont think its fair that threads about IG hoes get shuttered, but you bitches can start unlimited threads about this mutherfucker. Like there are multiple a day!

by Anonymousreply 6910/16/2020

R69 There aren't though. You'd have a point if you were talking about Armie Hammer.

by Anonymousreply 7010/16/2020

[quote]The last real movie star that managed to become a household name at the same time as becoming an internet sensation was probably Jennifer Lawrence.

I don't think she's actually a household name, like, say, Brad Pitt or Meryl Streep.

by Anonymousreply 7110/16/2020

R71 Well they are significantly older and have therefore been famous for much longer. Obviously the longer you're famous for, the more secure you become in household name status. But I do think most US households would know who Jennifer Lawrence is.

by Anonymousreply 7210/16/2020

[quote]I do think most US households would know who Jennifer Lawrence is.

And wish they didn't.

by Anonymousreply 7310/17/2020

[quote]threads about IG hos get shuttered

Which hos, r69?

by Anonymousreply 7410/17/2020

Yeah sorry. Chalamet [bold]STILL[/bold] has a face like a dropped pie.

by Anonymousreply 7510/17/2020

He has the type of face and body that increases in allure if attached to a fat long veiny bent dick. I suppose I could picture him as a bottom but there are better kinds of bottom than this type. He needs to be a skinny hung twink. So, how big is it?

by Anonymousreply 7610/17/2020

I think there are two ways he can kill his career. 1) Continuing to do more and more embarrassing PR stunts) and 2) Insisting on playing only leading man roles in commercial films. I say this because he is ambitious and fame has probably hit his head. It wouldn’t surprise me if he went in either one or both of these directions.

by Anonymousreply 7710/17/2020

I think it's pretty obvious that the second wont happen. He just signed on for what looks to be a very small role because of the director and cast that surround it. Plus commercial films aren't what get you the Oscar he so clearly wants.

by Anonymousreply 7810/17/2020

r63 Problem with depending on "stans" for your career is they're so fickle they make the rest of the media seem like an Orthodox marriage. At the best they'll stick with you for a few years before they age out of running fan twitter accounts. Or you get too old for teenagers to care. At worst you'll say something mildly offensive and you suddenly get bombed with k-pop video fuelled cancellation parties... I have learned way too much about fandom twitter over quarantine. Either way celebrities coming up this way especially the younger ones are in for a tough time.

by Anonymousreply 7910/17/2020

R79 I agree, I admire to an extent how nice he is to his fans but I also think it was the wrong way to go. Him appeasing them so much is what led to the utter meltdowns when he was seen with Eiza. They think they own him so they want to control who he dates, who he is friends with, what career choices he makes and so on. Seems exhausting to deal with but he isn't making any efforts to go back on it, so that's upto him.

by Anonymousreply 8010/17/2020

[quote]Problem with depending on "stans" for your career is they're so fickle they make the rest of the media seem like an Orthodox marriage.

Or not. I've been a "stan"—hate the word—of exactly three actors since Jake G. first entered my consciousness. Timmy is the most recent. I'm not a "Charmie" or one of those crazy-ass bitches who track his every move. I put all of them on ignore, in fact; I hardly read any Tim O'Tay threads because of those psychoposters.

I've been a fan since CMBYN, which I loved enough as a book to read it three times. I thought Timmy was perfect as Elio, though Hammer as Oliver has always stuck in my craw, though not for the "perv" reasons the prisses are always prissing about. I pictured Aaron Tveit in my readings of the book, and if Luca were to drop him in in place of Armie if they make a sequel, you wouldn't hear me complaining about nasolabial folds.

Oh, my third "stan" actor? Julian Morris (he might've made a nice Oliver, too).

by Anonymousreply 8110/17/2020

Aaron Tveit

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by Anonymousreply 8210/17/2020

Julian Morris

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by Anonymousreply 8310/17/2020

Better shot of Julian Morris.

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by Anonymousreply 8410/17/2020

Soon to be Tony Winning Aaron Tviet, providing he can muster the 60%.

by Anonymousreply 8510/17/2020

[quote]The last real movie star that managed to become a household name at the same time as becoming an internet sensation was probably Jennifer Lawrence.

She never attained and maintained the superstardom that Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock did. I don't think she ever got to the level of stardom that Reese Witherspoon attained either.

Chalamet could become huge in the way that Johnny Depp did a decade ago, but he needs to get cast in some big box-office movies while he's still young. Maybe Dune can do that for him.

by Anonymousreply 8610/17/2020

R86 I'd say she did attain it. At one point she had X-Men and The Hunger Games and was receiving an Oscar nomination almost every single year.

Maintain, well she purposefully took a break because people thought she was overexposed. Now she's coming back so we'll see if she can get back to where she was before.

by Anonymousreply 8710/17/2020

[quote]At one point she had X-Men and The Hunger Games and was receiving an Oscar nomination almost every single year.

Who is the audience for X-Man and Hunger Games? She's more popular with younger audiences but she's not a household name with all ages, like Leonardo DiCaprio or Angelina Jolie or Nicole Kidman.

by Anonymousreply 8810/17/2020

R88 Well she's still young. I'm not sure why this is being debated so much. A household name simply means that the majority of people know who you are by name alone. I do think that is the case for her. We'll see when she's middle aged whether her stardom has matched those you mention. I'm not a fan so it doesn't matter to me either way.

by Anonymousreply 8910/17/2020

The thing that concerns me with Timmy is that I feel like he's losing some of his credibility as an actor because of the part of him that wants to be in the spotlight that he admitted to in GQ. He's still getting cast in the highest caliber projects so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that film critics and cinephiles look at him now in the same way they did in 2017. He won New York Film Critics Circle and Los Angeles Film Critics Association Awards for CMBYN, these aren't the type of places that reward hugely famous heartthrobs like DiCaprio or Bradley Cooper, even when they're the Oscar favorite.

His appearance - positive or negative - is definitely talked about more than his talent/work these days. And it's getting to the point where the same can be said for his love life and celebrity friendships. If Beautiful Boy was released this year, I don't even know if he'd get as close to the Oscar nom as he did two years ago.

by Anonymousreply 9010/17/2020

R87: The other thing to consider is that she's pushing 30 real hard and Hollywood has seemingly moved on to the new crop of actresses: Saoirse, Florence Pugh, Zendaya, Margot Robbie, etc. Her career is hanging by a thread because of Weinstein's downfall, a string of flops(she's proven over and over again that she can't open a movie), overexposure like you said, and her horrible attitude in general. Also, her fake marriage isn't doing her any favors. She has a long and difficult road back. This Netflix film will have to be the basis of a comeback, if any, for her.

She starred in and produced a soldier movie for A24 last summer. Apparently, the screening was so bad that they have to start all over again. This is not good for her especially since she produced it.

by Anonymousreply 9110/17/2020

R91 Well I thought her career was pretty much done too but starring as the lead in a movie with Leo, Meryl, Cate, Timmy etc. is much more promising than I'd have expected. Adam McKay's last two movies have both received Best Picture nominations and acting nominations so things are looking good for her right now.

I hadn't heard anything about them having to start the A24 movie all over again, do you have a link? I don't think I've ever heard of anything so drastic that they'd re-do the entire movie because of a screening, wouldn't that cost too much?

by Anonymousreply 9210/17/2020

[quote]It’s because guys who look like him have that sexually non threatening look.

Most folks never find rats sexy.

by Anonymousreply 9310/17/2020

[quote]Well she's still young. I'm not sure why this is being debated so much. A household name simply means that the majority of people know who you are by name alone. I do think that is the case for her. We'll see when she's middle aged whether her stardom has matched those you mention. I'm not a fan so it doesn't matter to me either way.

R89 Sorry, I really didn't mean to make a big deal of it. But since you responded, I have to say, a household name is literally a name every person knows, not a majority. Like Barack Obama, Steven Spielberg, Donald Trump, Meryl Streep, Tom Cruise. My dad, my aunt, my grandmother probably have no idea who Jennifer Lawrence is. She's famous, but if she started to fade from view she probably wouldn't be remembered. While names like Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley are still household names years after their deaths.

by Anonymousreply 9410/17/2020

R94 Well when I google the definition I see things like 'a person or thing that is well known by the public' and 'a famous person that most people know of'

by Anonymousreply 9510/17/2020

R92: If she were to carry the movie, it would fail. Leo does bring public interest and intrigue to the project. They all signed on to work with Adam McKay not her. This was supposed to be her comeback vehicle and now she's going to be completely overshadowed by Leo. Also, Covid cases are still rising in Boston. Netflix is determined to start filming on November 19th but if the infection rate doesn't decrease filming could be delayed for several weeks or Netflix could decide to cancel the project. I think the budget is $75 million.

by Anonymousreply 9610/17/2020

She needs the film and her performance to be well received.

by Anonymousreply 9710/17/2020

Enough with the "she" people.

by Anonymousreply 9810/17/2020

R96 Okay, I don't really care about JLaw. All I said was she successfully quickly became a household name in the way no movie actor has managed to since.

This is the last I'm gonna say regarding her: We don't know if she'll be overshadowed by Leo. Brad Pitt clearly wasn't last year when he won the Oscar. They've already denied the budget is $75million and the budget doesn't matter so much for a Netflix project. Adam McKay talked on a podcast yesterday about all the intense safety protocols they have in place. It will go ahead.

by Anonymousreply 9910/17/2020

Why does he shout so much? Quite a few references in the article to him yelling stuff.

by Anonymousreply 10010/17/2020

^^ Because he's so "deep" and "passionate", about his craft!

by Anonymousreply 10110/17/2020

[quote] Chalamet could become huge in the way that Johnny Depp did a decade ago

Johnny Depp became huge a decade ago? I think you need to have a look at your calendar.

by Anonymousreply 10210/17/2020

R90 I think it’s clear at this point that he's a pseudo-intellectual fame whore, rather than a serious actor. His actions speak louder than his pretentious, rambling words. He could lay off the oh-so-accidental PDA stunts, the constant name dropping about the famous people he’s friends with, and the ever frequent GQ articles (must be nice to have a connection there), but he doesn't want to. He wants attention. He does everything he can possibly do to get attention, and then he complains about having too much attention. "Poor me. I'm so anxious. Everyone's so obsessed with everything I do." Actually, many people are tired of his stunting followed by his sad little boy act. Wash, rinse, repeat. It’s tedious and fake. And if Paper magazine is any indication, some journalists are growing weary of his routine as well.

by Anonymousreply 10310/17/2020

R103: Perfect summation. I've said all along that he's in this for the fame and now it's really hit his head. As for being a serious actor, I don't why everybody is saying he's brilliant. He's pretty mediocre. With any luck, he'll do more of these accidental PDA stunts and kill his career.

by Anonymousreply 10410/17/2020

But why? What will more fame bring him? He's getting the best roles for his age, he's rich, he's friends with every celebrity he's obsessed with. What else does he want? People have always paid attention to him, even when he had a few thousand followers back in 2017. That wont go away. So what's the point of continuing to whore himself out for fame and risking losing the respect of the industry?

As for his acting, he can be brilliant. And even when he's not, I think he's always interesting to watch. He has presence. But it's not lost on me that he gave by far his best performance on a tiny movie that he filmed before he was famous. He should be out there looking for a French movie to work on, something that he can prove he's doing for the sake of the work and not for the sake of followers, Oscar buzz or anything similar. Maybe when the pressure is off, he could return to his acting peak.

by Anonymousreply 10510/17/2020

Yes he's certainly come a long way but he's hardly a household name.

by Anonymousreply 10610/17/2020

Of course he wants attention. He posts selfies on Instagram. That's the number one sign of an unemployed actor who wants attention.

by Anonymousreply 10710/17/2020

Show me one actor who doesn't want attention. Why should Chalamet be any different?

by Anonymousreply 10810/17/2020

Armie Hammer is a HORRIBLE actor! A half-fucked peach upstaged Armie Hammer!!!

by Anonymousreply 10910/17/2020

Timothee is so unattractive to me. I get Harry Styles, I get Shawn Mendes, I get Cole Sprouse, I get Nick Robinson and I get Noah Centineo. But I fail to see what is sexy about Timothee at all and I am trying to. He gets compared to Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio too. JD and LC were hot in trashy street hustler kind of ways.

by Anonymousreply 11010/17/2020

R108 Of course...but there are levels to it.

by Anonymousreply 11110/17/2020

R110 You don't have to get it. Just accept that other people do and don't be one of those weirdos that constantly talks about how unattractive someone is.

by Anonymousreply 11210/17/2020

R111 What levels? Don't be eager, don't show you're ambitious, don't let them see you sweat? Is that the acceptable level? Chalamet has shown that he wants to go as high as he can in his profession. I see nothing wrong with it. Other actors want the same thing, they are just better at faking it.

by Anonymousreply 11310/17/2020

R113 I don't agree. Someone like Daniel Day-Lewis did not have the same fame/attention ambitions as Leonardo DiCaprio. Someone like Lucas Hedges does not have the same fame/attention ambitions as Timothee Chalamet. He acknowledges this himself when he talks about Saoirse and how he admires how she is willing to stay totally out of the spotlight and yet still has a successful career, but that he isn't like that.

by Anonymousreply 11410/17/2020

[quote]They all signed on to work with Adam McKay not her.

Well, the script is a masterpiece. That's why he could assemble the once in a lifetime cast that he did. Every A-list star in Hollywood wanted to be a part of this film. It'll be nominated for multiple Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 11510/17/2020

R114 You don't think Daniel Day-Lewis is ambitious? He is, at least during the peak of his career, but he is English and upper class, so he comes from a culture where it's considered in bad taste to show ambition. That does not in any way mean they are not ambitious, only that they hide it. DiCaprio and Chalamet are ambitious and they show it.

Lucas Hedges does not have the level of fame or popularity as Chalamet, and he will never have it. He is a fine actor, but not indispensible. Anyone can do his roles.

by Anonymousreply 11610/17/2020

R116 Of course he's ambitious, you need ambition to get to his level of success. I specifically stated ambition in regards to fame and attention. He has lived in a tiny village in Ireland for decades. That's not what you do if you're eager to constantly be in the spotlight.

Of course Lucas doesn't have it, nor could he ever. But he also makes absolutely zero effort to have it. He could be more popular than he is but he doesn't even have a single public social media account.

by Anonymousreply 11710/17/2020

It’s time to send this little mouse into oblivion.

by Anonymousreply 11810/17/2020

R116

DDL is upper-class and English. Precisely Protestant Irish and Jewish. At school he was bullied for being Jewish and posh.

But most of all, he was "burning from the inside" .

Is Timothée on that level? Only time will tell.

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by Anonymousreply 11910/18/2020

Is this a thread about Jennifer Lawrence?

by Anonymousreply 12010/18/2020

[quote]Why do teenage girls always like these guys that look like lesbians. He looks like Christie McNichol and Lily Tomlinson made a person.

Lily Tomlinson is one of my favorites. Sally Fields and Jason Rhubarbs too.

by Anonymousreply 12110/18/2020

I accept that Timmy has magnificent twink energy, even if I’m not sexually attracted to him. He’s lithe, has thick luxurious hair and a cute face (from some angles); it’s a winning package.

by Anonymousreply 12210/18/2020

I’m firmly convinced the point of this article was to convince the executives he’s not fey. The references to teenage girls asking about his hair and his begging us to believe Venice wasn’t a PR stunt...yeah don’t expect him to come out anytime soon.

by Anonymousreply 12310/18/2020

R123 Yes. I'm sure girls don't ask about his hair.

by Anonymousreply 12410/18/2020

Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio all are rags-to-riches. Depp and DiCaprio have poor white trash backgrounds. DiCaprio had the edge because he was born in LA and many = parents there put their kids into the show business but many don't make it that far. Depp came from Kentucky and moved to LA to pursue a music career but became friends with Nicolas Cage who had nepotist connections and got Johnny a role in Nightmare on Elm Street which became a breakthrough hit. Brad Pitt came from Missouri and struggled for years in LA, doing most bit and background roles and didn't get his big break until he was in his early 30s.

Timothee had nepotism and came from money. Not a thing about him is aspirational really.

by Anonymousreply 12510/18/2020

*inspirational

by Anonymousreply 12610/18/2020

It wasn't Chalamet's family that got him where he is, it's Damian Lewis who he should be sending a huge gift basket every year.

by Anonymousreply 12710/18/2020

He was completely mesmerizing on Homeland, you could easily see he had a spark of something special when he was on screen.

by Anonymousreply 12810/18/2020

R125: Exactly. He may not come from an acting family but he's still successful because of nepotism. It's not his so called "talent" that's putting him in these movies. Either nepotism or fucking some executive is why he's having such a huge explosion at a young age in a short amount of time.

by Anonymousreply 12910/18/2020

[quote]Either nepotism or fucking some executive is why he's having such a huge explosion at a young age in a short amount of time.

Why not both?

by Anonymousreply 13010/18/2020

R130: Yeah probably both.

by Anonymousreply 13110/18/2020

Nah. He's easily the most successful person in his family that's in the industry. His sister has only started getting cast in high profile projects in the last 12 months, which has clearly been down to his success.

If you were were gonna cast a role for a guy in his early 20s, are you gonna go for the one with millions of followers and an Oscar nom or someone else?

by Anonymousreply 13210/18/2020

So Timothee is like Blake Lively and Jennifer Aniston in which he had some acting connections but became the most successful of his family.

by Anonymousreply 13310/18/2020

As was said before, Damian Lewis telling his agent, who happened to be married to the producer of Call Me By Your Name, that he should meet with Timothee has done far more for his career than any relative.

Most actors that are kids of A-list stars/directors don't have careers as good as Timothee's. You can't just put it down to that.

by Anonymousreply 13410/18/2020

Try as he might to appear straight and a fuckboi.

TC is gayer than a picnic basket.

OK. Maybe more Monty Clift than Tony Perkins.

by Anonymousreply 13510/18/2020

Having money and also having some ties to the business even if they are minor puts you at an advantage over 99% of the population that doesn't. Damian Lewis helped him for sure but if he was poor and not had come from upper-class family in NYC with a mother who has ties to the Broadway and was a dance professor and a father who was in the global journalism field. He would not had any of the opportunities in the first place. It all builds up at the end of the day. Wealth alone creates opportunities. Most American actors are not rich, many aren't from NY or LA and many have no ties to the entertainment industry and because of that most of them have zero chance at breaking into stardom.

by Anonymousreply 13610/18/2020

Of course, it makes things easier just as being born in America makes it easier than being born in Sweden. Just as being born white makes it easier. You could point out the many advantages all different types of actors have had.

His mom being a Broadway dancer years ago has not had any major impact on his career. If it was that easy, Broadway dancers would be lining up to star in huge Hollywood movies. Most of them will never get near one.

by Anonymousreply 13710/18/2020

And how did Lewis get to see him? People really going to pretend he got Homeland from talent alone?

by Anonymousreply 13810/18/2020

It's really not that rare for LaGuardia kids to book a guest role on a TV show.

by Anonymousreply 13910/18/2020

It seems that the working class actor is over. It's all been taken over by rich kids or children of celebrities. It's odd to think that James Dean grew up on a farm in Indiana, Marilyn Monroe came from a white trash family, Marlon Brando from Nebraska and even Will Smith, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio had humble beginnings. Jennifer Lawrence too was one of the last that came from a lower class background.

Hip-hop is the only place you still see the rags-to-riches thing.

Being rich in LA and NY puts you at an advantage. Going to an established acting school too. They are the two biggest entertainment centers of the entire planet. Just like being rich in Toronto, Paris and London would put you at an advantage.

by Anonymousreply 14010/18/2020

So if the point is that the vast majority of young actors nowadays come from privileged backgrounds, then surely they're on pretty equal ground anyway. Therefore, him becoming more successful than 99% has to do with other factors.

by Anonymousreply 14110/18/2020

R141 I mean if you can get Grammys for being a mediocre musician. Then yes. Other factors play a role but they aren't necessarily about being talented.

by Anonymousreply 14210/18/2020

LOL at this Timothee stan trying to pretend he made it on talent alone. He isn't perfect, get over it.

by Anonymousreply 14310/18/2020

R142 Sure. I think he is talented. He may not necessarily be the most talented actor in his 20s, but he definitely broke out with one of the best performances an actor in his 20s has given.

He also has looks that appeal to a lot of people and a natural charisma. Along with knowing how to network and play the game. And a good agent.

by Anonymousreply 14410/18/2020

R143 No one said that and I've criticized him numerous times in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 14510/18/2020

One criticism people give of actors who get really big when young is that they struggle to portray older characters as they age due to not having any life experience and they get arrogant and refuse to continue training and honing their skills. Meryl Streep, Steve Buscemi, Denzel Washington, Morgan Freeman, Whoopi Goldberg and Kathy Bates are good at their jobs of playing aged characters because they actually lived their lives as normal adults and it took a while for them to get famous. Compare them to Johnny Depp, Scarlett Johansson, Emma Stone and Leonardo DiCaprio who struggle at playing convincing adults.

by Anonymousreply 14610/18/2020

R146 Or is it just because, maybe with the exception of Denzel, most of the people from the first group look like normal adults whereas the second group either are or have been in the past exceptionally attractive?

by Anonymousreply 14710/18/2020

Timothee won't need to worry about that by the time he's their age

by Anonymousreply 14810/18/2020

He'll probably grow more unattractive as he ages.

by Anonymousreply 14910/18/2020

R149 Doesn't everyone?

by Anonymousreply 15010/18/2020

R121 Did you mean Jasob Robards? Bitch, "Jason Rhubarbs" just took me the fuck out. I needed that laugh.

by Anonymousreply 15110/18/2020

R129 Family connections can open doors for you. Once you're in the room, it's on you. Chalamet referred to his mother as a kind of stage mother in the interview he did with Stevie Wonder. I think he'd be the first to acknowledge the benefits of coming from a family with a director uncle and a screenwriting aunt, as well as a mother and grandmother who were both professional dancers in their youth. Being born in New York City and being able to attend a school like LaGuardia are huge advantages on their own. Despite all this, if you don't have the talent and most importantly, the drive to be successful, you're not getting anywhere. The kid took his advantages and made something of them, as he should.

by Anonymousreply 15210/18/2020

I wish that was the case but there are so many factors in addition to talent that factor. Ageism, nepotism, racism, physical appearance and looks, casting couch dynamics can affect some actors' success. Everyone is different.

by Anonymousreply 15310/18/2020

[quote]Once you're in the room, it's on you

Because there are no talentless kids of celebrities who have jobs purely because of who their parents are. Nope, none at all.

by Anonymousreply 15410/18/2020

This debate is silly. He has advantages, he also has talent, he also has other things like his appearance that help him. Most other successful actors have a mix of all these things too. He is not the son of DiCaprio or Scorsese.

by Anonymousreply 15510/18/2020

I wonder why the Academy members were angry at him when he was campaigning for Beautiful Boy.

by Anonymousreply 15610/18/2020

R154 There are tons. But did their family connections keep them there? At the end of the day, they have to deliver the goods. Sofia Coppola is a good example. Her own father gave her an important role in Godfather III, and she bombed. She did so badly she was considered a joke for almost a decade. She did have talent as a director and she delivered. Now she is an Oscar nominated director and widely respected. So yes, family connections matter, they get you a place at the table, but you have to produce good work, because at the end of the day, there are other talented people who can take your place.

Chalamet is one of those rare cases where he is both talented and driven, and smart enough to use every advantage and every connection to get to where he wants to be. I commend him for that.

R156 Where did you hear that Academy members were angry at him campaigning for Beautiful Boy?

by Anonymousreply 15710/18/2020

R157: In the GQ piece, he said some academy members odiously said you don't have my vote yet.

by Anonymousreply 15810/18/2020

'Now he was in all the same rooms as before, the same lunches and dinners and cocktail parties, shaking hands with the same Academy members who showed up at everything to get a little nibble of the freshest biscuit, growling ominous things at him, like: You don't have my vote yet.…'

It doesn't sound like they were angry at him, it's just the reality of Oscar campaigning when you don't have an undeniable movie and performance on your side like he did the first time. They want something from you before they're willing to support you.

by Anonymousreply 15910/18/2020

R159: But it sounds like he thought he was a shoe in for a second nomination. He had all the media hyping him up as the next big thing.

by Anonymousreply 16010/18/2020

R160 He's new to this. He sailed to a nomination the year before with no worries and was probably runner-up in the voting. He was predicted all year round by Oscar pundits for Beautiful Boy. Got raves for his performance. And snagged the Golden Globe, SAG and BAFTA noms. It's not surprising if he wasn't expecting to get snubbed.

When you spend enough time following the Oscar race though, you realize there is usually at least one actor that hits all the precursors and misses the nomination and 9 times out of 10 it's someone competing for a weak movie that isn't present in other categories.

by Anonymousreply 16110/18/2020

R147 Emma Stone is not exceptionally attractive at all. Leo and Johnny are an acquired taste for many (if you are into masculine guys then they aren't really attractive) plus Leo aged horribly after Titanic anyway. Scarlett was basic before her plastic surgery and I know many guys don't find her all that hot anyway LOL. Also they can still seek out acting lessons and training as you are never too old to keep studying and honing your craft. Being lazy and not doing research isn't really justifiable. There's a reason many UK actors are preferred.

by Anonymousreply 16210/18/2020

R162 Many people find those names very attractive. Definitely more so than Steve Buschemi and Kathy Bates.

by Anonymousreply 16310/18/2020

R160 I didn't get that impression. Some of that campaigning is not up to him, but also his Amazon studios. They were pushing for a nomination for that film, and it looked to them like Chalamet was their best chance, so they pushed for it. Chalamet might have guessed that being nominated a second time, right after being nominated for CMBYN, would be a long shot.

by Anonymousreply 16410/18/2020

R163 Steve Buscemi is a sexy man because of his personality honestly. Emma Stone is average looking. Johnny Depp is a good-looking but he doesn't stand out in anyway, he looks like a few hot trailer park guys you see. Matt Bomer, Angelina Jolie, Heather Graham and Henry Cavill are examples of people who are exceptionally attractive.

by Anonymousreply 16510/18/2020

R165 Attraction is subjective. I'm simply talking about how most people would rank them.

by Anonymousreply 16610/18/2020

It being right after CMBYN was actually what helped him get as far as he did, I think. He had a lot of leftover goodwill and many people that thought he gave the most deserving performance the year before and should have won.

I think you could definitely sense the disappointment. I remember the Oscar noms were announced before the SAG and BAFTA awards and at both he didn't give red carpet interviews, compared to the Globes which were before Oscar noms where he did. Remember him reading that magazine or whatever at SAG? And when they showed his clip he had a kind of sheepish, defeated look on his face.

by Anonymousreply 16710/18/2020

R166 It's both subjective and objective. Clear skin, symmetrical faces and signs of health and fertility are universally attractive for example. Status and fame are also attractive. Personalities and certain physical quirks are where it gets subjective. With celebrities, a lot of time the media pushes them as being the sexiest people alive but when you actually go out on the streets and talk to people you would be surprised. I know a few guys who think Scarlett Johansson is not that hot and annoying and a terrible actress. I met many girls who don't find Depp or DiCaprio attractive at all but prefer a hunk like Jason Mamoa and The Rock. Kim Kardashian is hailed as sexy and beautiful in the media but so many people hate her in real life and think she looks like a cartoon.

by Anonymousreply 16810/18/2020

R168 Most women would fuck Depp or DiCaprio over Buscemi. Most men would fuck Stone over Bates. That's all.

by Anonymousreply 16910/18/2020

R169 I think for many women, being turned on is not always about physical looks. Depp and DiCaprio seem stupid as fuck. Maybe teenage girls would sleep with them but intelligent and older women not so much. Buscemi is educated and witty with a great sense of humor which turns a lot of women on.

by Anonymousreply 17010/18/2020

R170 If you say so.

by Anonymousreply 17110/18/2020

R171 The Rock, Daniel Craig, Michael B Jordan and Jason Mamoa are considered more sexy to women also. A lot of women aren't into the twink look like at all.

by Anonymousreply 17210/18/2020

I can imagine it's disheartening to make it so far and stumble at the last hurdle. He worked very hard for that nomination, constantly flying everywhere to do promo at the same time as filming Little Women. No way he would have agreed to do so much if he didn't think his chances for a nom were good. Steve Carell pretty much bowed out of promo after TIFF.

by Anonymousreply 17310/18/2020

R169 I know many lesbians that love Scarlett Johansson than guys oddly, I think a lot of them got turned off by her Marvel acting. Also, Emma Stone is part of that super skinny quirky actress look that Hollywood is trying hard to push. Emma is not exceptionally attractive and there nobody alive who honestly believes she is at all. She was cast as the obtainable girl-next-door who was cute enough but not hot enough to be out of your league. Lindsay Lohan (who Stone gets compared to) in her prime was actually considered hot and sexy and her big boobs and red hair was a main draw. Angelina Jolie, Jessica Alba and Megan Fox also were obsessions of straight dudes. A lot of guys really want girls that look like Instamodels and porn stars. Pamela Anderson was a big thing for Christ sakes. Girls who are petite like Emma Watson, Mila Kunis and Keira Knightley still have really gorgeous faces. I remember a lot of guys loving Jennifer Lawrence too.

by Anonymousreply 17410/18/2020

R174 Okay. Are you done now? Can people carry on talking about the subject of the thread?

by Anonymousreply 17510/18/2020

R175 This is DL. Going off topic is sort of what we do.

by Anonymousreply 17610/18/2020

R176 Yes but you're talking to yourself at this point. When someone says 'if you say so', they're not asking for a further two posts carrying on with the same topic.

by Anonymousreply 17710/18/2020

R167 He wasn't reading a magazine at the SAG awards, he was reading the awards show program. I don't know about the red carpet interviews, he may have done some that we missed. Who knows, but I'm not going to guess too much about his intent without more evidence.

by Anonymousreply 17810/18/2020

R173 Poor bébé. I weep for him.

by Anonymousreply 17910/18/2020

R178 The point isn't what he was reading really, just that he didn't seem as engaged and excited by what was actually happening as he has done at other shows. I think he might have left SAG after his category was done too.

I don't think he did interviews that people missed. I remember at BAFTA at least he was all about the fans and seemed to spend the entire red carpet time with them.

by Anonymousreply 18010/18/2020

^^^That shit has got to get boring at some point, I can't fault him for that. At least he isn't showing up all coked up like some celebs do. Yet.

by Anonymousreply 18110/18/2020

I don't know why anyone would try to deny that he was disappointed. It's not a bad thing, anyone would be.

“I really don't know how to talk about this stuff, man,” he told me, “because my experience of it is at the center of it. There's just some dark energy at these things, and this time around I felt like I could see it. And yet I'm thinking, Why isn't this going the exact same way?”

by Anonymousreply 18210/18/2020

R177 Let's get real. Most of this thread is like 3 Timothee stans talking to themselves. Nobody is fooled

by Anonymousreply 18310/18/2020

R183 As long as they're talking about him, it doesn't really matter. Talking to yourself about something completely off-topic is a bit different.

by Anonymousreply 18410/18/2020

[quote] That shit has got to get boring at some point, I can't fault him for that

Countless actors, well-known and many who are not, attend these awards, stick it out for the duration and suffer through the pretense of looking like they care, even though they know they haven't been nominated for anything. In that clip of him reading, he came across as being bored, being that he wasn't in contention, and yes, he also left early, and there were no missed interviews...he didn't give any. I think his behavior revealed some early cracks in that pearly white image he likes to cultivate for himself.

by Anonymousreply 18510/18/2020

R185 Damn, those long suffering actors, some well-known, how noble of them to stick it out like that! Please, actors are there to be seen and network, not out of respect for anything or anyone. It might have been a social faux pas for him to leave early, since he's going to have to kiss a lot of asses on his way up.

by Anonymousreply 18610/18/2020

He will become a cinematic GOD after DUNE and it's sequels! Hollywood is priming him for stardom!

by Anonymousreply 18710/18/2020

R187 There is a way to admire someone without being nauseating. No actor is worthy of this degree of glorification. It's not as though they're saving lives or making the world a better place. They are entertainers. I think you and the rest of Tim's superfans set him up for failure by over-hyping him, which in turn creates a backlash.

by Anonymousreply 18810/18/2020

r188 Okay...... He will end up working at a Snack Bar at the Jersey Shore and Performing fellatio on his middle-aged married boss just to get those extra shifts on the snow cone machine!!!! After hours, he will offer his ass, in the backs of SUV's, for a little cash but secretly he enjoys the attention and affection of his fellow employees. He will become a gutter rat who do most anything if the price is right!!!

by Anonymousreply 18910/18/2020

[quote]It might have been a social faux pas for him to leave early

No, it was a professional fuck up. Hollywood takes that kind of stuff ridiculously seriously, and I can guarantee there will have been people bitching about him leaving early. It's a town which remembers slights and takes every chance to get revenge for them. Like you said in your own post, these events are to network - what message do you think he sent to those people with his behaviour?

What's also an issue there is the comparison. All bright and energetic and a fan of everyone when there's the chance of an award, vs disinterested, leaving early when there isn't. Again, in a town which loves to gossip and bitch, that difference - some might say fakeness - won't have gone unnoticed.

by Anonymousreply 19010/19/2020

Many celebrities left award shows early. Saoirse left early at some award shows too. He is still getting offers from famous directors.

by Anonymousreply 19110/19/2020

I think the problem with Beautiful Boy is they didn’t choose to focus the movie on Nick’s book Tweak, which would have looked eye catching on a marquee. Also having the gritter elements like selling himself for drugs would have been strong scenes for Timmy. After his blow up for CMBYN if Carrell would have been willing to let the movie shift focus to him and be aimed at a your audience and been like Euphoria it could have done better and be more awards likely.

by Anonymousreply 19210/19/2020

* younger

by Anonymousreply 19310/19/2020

R191 And point out to me where anyone says he didn't get jobs as a result of it. However, it will contribute to the industry bitching about him, especially in the next awards season he's involved in.

by Anonymousreply 19410/19/2020

He's probably going to be a double Oscar nominee next year for Dune and Don't Look Up.

by Anonymousreply 19510/19/2020

R195: This is emblematic of how overrated this guy is.

by Anonymousreply 19610/19/2020

As if he wasn’t bad enough, his sister is now getting cast in high profile projects thanks to fucking nepotism.

by Anonymousreply 19710/19/2020

I doubt he'll get a single Oscar nom next year, even if he's in three Best Picture nominees. Dune isn't the type of movie to get acting noms, Wes Anderson has never directed an actor to an Oscar nom and his role in Don't Look Up will likely be very small.

However, if he manages to make the Dylan movie in time for 2022 then being in three high profile movies next year will be a good lead in to a nomination and potential win for that.

by Anonymousreply 19810/19/2020

R196 And how bad Timothee stans are at reading calendars. Next year, R195?

by Anonymousreply 19910/19/2020

R198: Whose cock is he sucking to get these gigs?

by Anonymousreply 20010/19/2020

Too self-conscious.

by Anonymousreply 20110/19/2020

R200 Like I said before, he's the only actor of his age that has both an Oscar nomination and millions of followers. He has both the critical acclaim and the fan adoration. It's not surprising to me that he's the top pick for all these roles.

by Anonymousreply 20210/19/2020

He won’t stop sucking cock until he gets that Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 20310/19/2020

^ It doesn’t always work.

by Anonymousreply 20410/19/2020

I see he and Selena released a little video today that touched on voting. From a PR perspective better to talk about that than their little duo with Woody Allen. And of course there's no one more qualified to give political advice than an overrated, spoiled, pipsqueak actor who can't find his way out of the closet.

by Anonymousreply 205Last Saturday at 5:08 PM

R205 Why do you even pay attention to him?

by Anonymousreply 206Last Saturday at 5:53 PM

^^^ Go back to Club Chalamet, or Tapatalk, or wherever you came from, frau. You're on a gay gossip forum.

You stan twats always seem to forget what the sign says at the door.

by Anonymousreply 207Last Saturday at 7:15 PM

'Vote' isn't exactly political advice that needs a wealth of experience and knowledge before someone can be qualified to say it.

by Anonymousreply 208Last Saturday at 7:27 PM

R207 There's no need to get emotional. It's obvious you are female, so you throwing the word frau around isn't fooling anyone. Only a frau would keep coming back to a thread about an actor they don't like.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Saturday at 9:11 PM

R209 So witty. Please, just go away.

And take your cunt with you. I really hate the smell with my morning coffee.

by Anonymousreply 210Last Sunday at 4:32 AM

R203 "He won’t stop sucking cock until he gets that Oscar."

Well, that would hardly make him unusual in HW, would it? Why would Chalamet be spoken of contemptuously for what is probably the most commonplace activity in the biz?

by Anonymousreply 211Last Sunday at 4:52 AM

R211 something something mediocre something something overrated something something ugly

Think I've covered their main talking points.

by Anonymousreply 212Last Sunday at 4:55 AM

The Bob Dylan film has been scrapped. Now we just need him to be scrapped all together.

by Anonymousreply 213Yesterday at 3:10 AM

It hasn't been scrapped, it's been delayed

by Anonymousreply 214Yesterday at 3:12 AM
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