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Are "straight" cucks just deeply closeted gay men?

Someone told me their theory on this phenomenon and it makes sense: these guys are actually attracted to men, but they can't admit it, even to themselves. Thus, they use their wives/girlfriends as "surrogates" and get off by watching her get fucked by other men.

Related to this is the racial angle, which seems to permeate the "world" of cucking. See: Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, etc. I've known two guys in real life with this "kink." They were both Republicans and creeps. (One was a domestic abuser and cokehead and the other was a serial philanderer. )

Anyway, my theory is that all these guys are attracted to black men, which is taboo because 1) homosexuality is not accepted in their right-wing circles and 2) interracial relationships are also frowned upon. Their attraction to black men heightens the level of taboo.

by Anonymousreply 43Last Saturday at 10:36 PM

M'kay.

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by Anonymousreply 1Last Wednesday at 6:19 AM

[quote]Someone told me their theory on this phenomenon and it makes sense

What if someone told you to fuck off and die?

by Anonymousreply 2Last Wednesday at 6:22 AM

... ? r2

by Anonymousreply 3Last Wednesday at 6:24 AM

I'm genuinely curious, r3. Is it my question that you object to, or my answer?

by Anonymousreply 4Last Wednesday at 6:32 AM

Let's try this again.

I'm genuinely curious, r2. Is it my question that you object to, or my answer?

by Anonymousreply 5Last Wednesday at 6:33 AM

I tend to agree, OP. Sublimated gay submission.

by Anonymousreply 6Last Wednesday at 6:37 AM

I watch (and enjoy) some straight porn. (Yes, I realize most other gay men do not.) It's fascinating to me the way that enormous penises are fetishized in a lot of straight porn, but especially in gang-bang and cuck-themed porn.

Some straight porn is just so.... gay!

by Anonymousreply 7Last Wednesday at 6:49 AM

There are some great amateur porns out there with cuck husbands who end up sucking dick - and some of them are quite enthusiastic. For some reason it really gets me off.

by Anonymousreply 8Last Wednesday at 6:55 AM

There’s something going on there. Not sure what it is. Perhaps projection of wanting to be emotionally detached from the sexual act due to porn viewing habits or wanting to feel humiliated or powerless.

Not sure that all men who do this are gay, however, I think they would definitely experiment more so than a straight man who has never been into this and is authentically straight, or as straight as possible.

I think that the only people who are capable of being 100% straight are people who aren’t sex addicts and that is more likely to be straight women who do not have a history of prolonged promiscuity and experimentation with tons of one night stands. I’m not referring to straight women who are hung up on virtue or are prudes, but straight women who tried some stuff early on when they were of age, and decided that it wasn’t their cup of tea and favor monogamy.

I think straight men will try almost anything if they’re addicted to substances and/or booze, and/or porn. And that doesn’t make these guys are gay or even bisexual, but addiction that isn’t addressed and managed to the point of abstinence from the addiction, makes anyone vulnerable to behaviors they would never engage in if not addicted or while acting out when under the influence of the addiction.

The big bummer for straight couples is when they find a partner who has been addicted to sex and porn, because their brains become re-wired to the point that normal sex without porn in the background, or multiple partners, or drugs, is really difficult to experience when attempting to have an intimate, sexual relationship that is “vanilla” when compared to what they were previously accustomed to engaging in.

by Anonymousreply 9Last Wednesday at 7:03 AM

I think cucking is perfectly normal and healthy.

by Anonymousreply 10Last Wednesday at 7:15 AM

If they are then every straight man that watches straight porn must also be gay. They are watching two people fuck. They get off on the "sluttiness" or "naughtiness" of their significant other getting fucked by another man. They jerk off to it like a live-action porn movie. If they join in on the fun and pay attention to the other guy then they might be bi, but watching a man and woman fuck does not make one gay, especially in the era with PornHub.

by Anonymousreply 11Last Wednesday at 7:59 AM

Watching porn is one thing, r11. Orchestrating your wife getting gang banged by five hung black men seems to a little bit beyond that.

by Anonymousreply 12Last Wednesday at 8:04 AM

Yes, I am agreeing with theory, although not thinking all guys, but a rather significant section of this type you describe.

by Anonymousreply 13Last Wednesday at 8:18 AM

Yes. And I think it applies to nudists and swingers.

My guess is a totally straight man would not want another cock in the room.

by Anonymousreply 14Last Wednesday at 8:19 AM

There are some cucks who want to hold the bull's cock and guide it into his wife's pussy, and then 'clean up' afterwards. Make of that what you will.

by Anonymousreply 15Last Wednesday at 8:22 AM

r14 I still beg to differ. Porn is being watched at record rates right now. Men, teenagers, and sadly young boys are watching 100s of cocks a month fuck pussies. I think the traditional ideas of straight vs gay simply don't apply in the internet age. I believe men can be 100% straight, but they watch porn that shows someone cock entering a vagina. The number of lesbian porn viewers is considerably lower than traditional MF porn.

I don't think being a cuck has to mean someone is bi or even gay. It just goes the extra step from porn to real life. Unless they are into the guys then it's a different story.

by Anonymousreply 16Last Wednesday at 8:23 AM

r15 those I'd call gay or bi. The one's simply watching may not be either.

by Anonymousreply 17Last Wednesday at 8:24 AM

And to take this point further, the NFL is a perfect example. Most racists watch a league that is almost entirely made up of Black men. I have been to parties with just the straight guys and a couple that had football coaches in the room. In a heated moment as someone is running for a touchdown, I heard, "Look at that "..." go! Said by a white guy. Insert any Black racial insult. Some laugh, some pretend it did not happen.

Bottom line is that if any super famous Black athlete came on to some of these guys that profess their straightness, if there were no way that people would find out, the white guy would be on his knees.

by Anonymousreply 18Last Wednesday at 8:25 AM

Lol @ R18. I think you are right on the money.

by Anonymousreply 19Last Wednesday at 8:48 AM

I don't think there's a universal explanation for cucks. Maybe some are closeted, but not all of them. And, there are actually intrarracial cucks - the guy fucking their wives are the same race as them.

by Anonymousreply 20Last Wednesday at 8:58 AM

"I think the traditional ideas of straight vs gay simply don't apply in the internet age. I believe men can be 100% straight, but they watch porn that shows someone cock entering a vagina. "

This has been the case forever, not just the internet age. Magazines, VHS tapes, etc. have always depicted cocks entering, being sucked on by women. "How can a straight guy look at that?" I always assumed if they were honestly straight, they desired to be the guy being depicted.

by Anonymousreply 21Last Wednesday at 9:01 AM

Does every mental fuck up/ loser of the world really need to be pathologized as gay? It just sounds like they are a masochist with an undisclosed fetish, that doesn't have much of anything to do with being gay.

by Anonymousreply 22Last Wednesday at 9:22 AM

Don't forget men with yellow fever, r22.

by Anonymousreply 23Last Wednesday at 9:40 AM

Cuckolding isnt limited to right wingers. And believe it or not their are some women who like watching their husbands/boyfriends get fucked too. There are a lot of sexually fluid black men who do it, quiet as its kept. Andrew Gillum/Al Reynolds type of deal

by Anonymousreply 24Last Wednesday at 10:03 AM

Interesting theory. Probably yes, at least, a sizeable part of them.

by Anonymousreply 25Last Wednesday at 10:20 AM

Good insights, R9.

by Anonymousreply 26Last Wednesday at 10:24 AM

[quote] Does every mental fuck up/ loser of the world really need to be pathologized as gay?

Homophobes do this all the time. The worst of them are the ones that do it while identifying themselves as progressive.

by Anonymousreply 27Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM

identifying as*

by Anonymousreply 28Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM

If they were gay there wouldn't be a woman involved at all.

by Anonymousreply 29Last Wednesday at 2:42 PM

There's definitely an element of homosex in cuckolding, a lot of the cucks get off thinking about the woman getting fucked by "a REAL man", a potent, masculine, desirable man, a man who is everything the cuck is not. Some cuck fantasies do involve being forced to have sex with this manlier man.

However, that's not the whole picture, most cucks are very much into the woman and worships her for dominating and humiliating him. In fact, there's a hint of an oedipal mother-child dynamic there, where the lworthless little male who doesn't get to have sex is controlled by a beautiful woman who lives as an adult and who has sex with anyone but the cuck male.

by Anonymousreply 30Last Wednesday at 5:33 PM

Do gay men consider it cuckolding as well to watch your partner with another dude, or is it basically just group sex

by Anonymousreply 31Last Wednesday at 9:57 PM

"OP, call me and we'll talk."

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by Anonymousreply 32Last Thursday at 3:24 AM

I used to regularly fuck this guy near work who's husband would tape us. The husband had a small dick and I do not and they both got off on him finally being fucked by a 'real' man. The small-dicked top got off on the humiliation and degradation.

by Anonymousreply 33Last Thursday at 4:01 AM

[quote]R7 I watch (and enjoy) some straight porn. (Yes, I realize most other gay men do not.)

According to OP’s theory, you are a deeply closeted straight man.

by Anonymousreply 34Last Thursday at 4:12 AM

People eroticise fear/trauma. The cuck is turned on by his own genuine fear that his wife will leave him, a schlubby, tiny, limp-dicked loser, for the real stud who actually can make her come. It's about eroticising humiliation, fear, trauma, and doesn't need to come from sublimated homosexuality.

The same impulses can be seen in the gay community, around such practices as race play, small cock humiliation, enforced chastity etc.

by Anonymousreply 35Last Thursday at 4:33 AM

There’s nothing gay about it. Especially when the husband is forced to eat the load out of his wife's pussy afterward. That’s just part of a normal, healthy heterosexual relationship. My husband Mike explained it to me.

by Anonymousreply 36Last Thursday at 4:37 AM

When the cuck is white and the stud is black, it plays on very deep rooted fears about miscegenation the threat and black men supposedly pose to the honour/purity of white women.

by Anonymousreply 37Last Thursday at 4:42 AM

[quote] Do gay men consider it cuckolding as well to watch your partner with another dude

No, because the "ownership" of a woman has to be involved

by Anonymousreply 38Last Thursday at 4:26 PM

So then what is it called when gay men do it?

by Anonymousreply 39Last Thursday at 8:41 PM

Voyeurism

by Anonymousreply 40Last Friday at 4:47 AM

The reason why morons would think "cucks" are gay is because that behaviour is considered insulting or less masculine. That's all there is to it.

by Anonymousreply 41Last Friday at 4:49 AM

R31 Yes. At least some do. Gay cuckolding is a very real fetish.

by Anonymousreply 42Last Saturday at 1:53 PM

The awkward silence after all have cum and the third party has left....

by Anonymousreply 43Last Saturday at 10:36 PM
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