Ex-member of Amy Coney Barrett's religious cult speaks out

It's considered a little extreme by most Catholics.

Well, this is disturbing. Or maybe it's the new normal?

What is all this hairsplitting when it comes to who’s religion is weirder? Just imagine if all this Jesus stuff was happening in the 2000s and not 2000 years ago? He’d be in Bellevue. It’s hypocritical that speaking in tongues and casting out the debbil is considered on the nose, but rising from the dead, walking on water, claimed to be Creator, etc is all fine and dandy. All religions are as fuckin weird as each other. Separation of church and state is a joke.

Glossolalia (speaking in tongues) is a laughable fraud. People who engage in it are one of two types. Either they're the type who know it's all fake and they're just imitating what they've heard others do so they'll seem part of whatever silly religious sect they participate in, or they're mentally ill religious and speaking in tongues is just one of the symptoms of their insanity.

We're all going to actually die at the end of this right wing coup. That's the surprise.

They don't even need Trump at this point. That's been the plan all along.

They’re a bunch of freaks who don’t represent the USA values. Yet, they’ve lied and cheated their way into power, all with religious fanaticism as their goal.

We will end up like the sharia law countries if we don’t rise up.

Thanks for posting, OP.

I had a gf who was raised as an Apostolic Pentecostal and had to learn how to "speak in tongues" (at 14) because every week at church the congregation prayed for her to "get the Holy Ghost." Finally, the preacher told her privately that she should just imitate the other people "because sometimes the Holy Ghost needs a little help."

Needless to say she grew up to be an incredibly fucked-up adult.

It’s devastating that we lost the rational Ginsburg and are getting a religious lunatic puppet who speaks in tongues.

Here's a prime example of how fake speaking in tongues is. Just a bunch of made up words they think sound specifically from the land of Jesus.

Attacking her religious beliefs is a stupid strategy, and Democrats should disassociate from it

The Charismatic Movement is large within Catholicism and is the only segment of that Church that is growing

The charismatic shit is not more or less weird than most religious stuff. It's the submission to husbands and other cult like things in that group that are disturbing and not at all mainstream Catholic.

[quote] Attacking her religious beliefs is a stupid strategy, and Democrats should disassociate from it

No, sorry. Belief in exorcism and spirit babble is worthy of scrutiny.

Expose her agenda. She’s a plant by the far-right freaks.

Having a designated role in a cult literally called a HANDMAID is also worthy of scrutiny. It cannot be simplified into merely holding a 'religious belief.'

R10 sounds exactly like the type of homophobic doublespeak used to deny human rights to millions of us. Your religious belief and my civil rights may never intersect. Read the establishment clause of the constitution.

R13, you realize a huge percentage of Americans believe the same, especially in swing states?

Speaking in tongues doesn't seem very Catholic. Also in the Handmaid's Tale all the Catholics either converted or were killed.

R16 No, they don't. A huge percentage of Americans are not involved with performing exorcisms, handmaiden duties, or speak in tongues. I'm really not sure where you're getting your information from if you believe this to be the case. She's in a fringe cult. Most people are part of some cult, you're correct, but other cults don't like each other either.

R17, As of 2013, the Catholic charismatic renewal existed in over 230 countries in the world, with over 160 million members

The Charismatic Movement is huge within Catholicism. Some speculate Pope Francis is charismatic. How do y’all not know this?

Attacking charismatic belief and practice is a sure way to lose critical swing states where it widespread, such as Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Georgia, Texas, and Iowa. Pentecostalism and charismatic Christianity is a huge segment of the population in these states. Add SC to the states where it’s a huge portion of the population

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Catholics for Biden warn Democrats against attacking Amy’s faith

R21 Good analysis

R23 Bad faith threat from child molesting extremists who I could care less about if they voted for Biden.

Truly, I love you all: but go fuck yourselves.

I will not nor should any Democrat be threatened into pretending someone's so called "religious beliefs" are off limits when those beliefs PROVE to be synonymous with suppression of my human rights.

And SHAME on you nasty cunts for saying I should bow to threats from child raping Catholics.

EVERYONE and their grandmother has been doing the "This is why Trump is going to win, don't go there" shit since 2016 to push normalize their own ideological beliefs.

Challenge maniacs. Challenge cult indoctrination. I don't give a shit if the fucking pope endorses Trump, he's a child rapist too.

R24, stay far away from Democratic campaigning and candidates. You are radioactive

"Don't bring my religion into this" = Sit there quietly while I call you an abomination and strip you of your rights because of my religious principles.

Fuck allll the way off. Religious people shouldn't have abused their faith system for thousands of year to promote injustice, persecution and malice towards gay people (among countless others) otherwise there would be nothing to bring up.

2007 Barna group poll found that about 20 million people say they are atheist, have no religious faith, or are agnostic, with 5 million of that number claiming to be atheists. The study also found that "[t]hey tend to be more educated, more affluent and more likely to be male and unmarried than those with active faith" and that "only 6 percent of people over 60 have no faith in God, and one in four adults ages 18 to 22 describe themselves as having no faith."[7] Nonreligious Americans were mostly raised in a religious tradition and consciously lost it,[8] and are often more knowledgeable about religion than average religious persons.[9]

Irreligiosity is often under-reported in American surveys; many more express lack of faith in god or have alternative views on god (e.g. deism), than those who self-identify as atheists, agnostics and the like.[10] In 2012, 23% of religious affiliates did not consider themselves to be "religious", though this is subjective.[11][12] The number of atheists and agnostics found in common surveys tends to be quite low since, for instance, according to the 2019 Pew Research Center survey they were 3.1% and 4% respectively[3] and according to the 2014 General Social Survey they were 4% and 5% respectively.[13] However, their self-identification and actual views on God do differ since one study observed that out of people who did not believe in God or a universal spirit, only 24% actually self-identified as "atheists" and 15% as "agnostics".[2] In one 2018 research paper using indirect methods estimated that 26% of Americans are atheists, which is much higher than the 3%-11% rates that are consistently found in surveys.[14].

A 2012 study by the Pew Research Center reported that, of the U.S. adult population, 19.6% had no religious affiliation and an additional 16% identified as "neither spiritual nor religious".[15][12] Furthermore, atheists made up 2.4% and agnostics made up 3.3% of the US population. It also notes that a third of adults under the age of 30 are religiously unaffiliated. However, out of the religiously unaffiliated demographic: the majority describe themselves either as a religious (18%) or as spiritual but not religious (37%) while a significant minority (42%) considers themselves neither spiritual nor religious. Additionally, out of the unaffiliated: 68% believe in God, 12% are atheists, 17% are agnostics and overall 21% of the religiously unaffiliated pray every day.[16]

The Pew Religious Landscape survey reported that as of 2014, 22.8% of the U.S. population is religiously unaffiliated, atheists made up 3.1% and agnostics made up 4% of the U.S. population.[17] The 2014 General Social Survey reported that 21% of Americans had no religion with 3% being atheist and 5% being agnostic.[13]

Some 20% of Americans considered themselves neither religious nor spiritual. Irreligiousness is highest among young healthy unmarried educated white males.[18][19][4]

When asked, around a third (24%-33% in different years) answered they were "not religious", though this label is highly subjective;[20] many of these identify/affiliate themselves with established religious groups and most believe in God.[4][21] In one survey, 88% considered themselves as at least moderately spiritual.[19] In the 2008 American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) report, 15% of the US population identified as having "no religion", almost double the 1990 figure/[10]

A 2010 Pew Research Center study comparing Millennials to other generations showed that of those between 18–29 years old, only 3% self-identified as "atheists" and only 4% as "agnostics". Overall, 25% of Millennials were "Nones" and 74% were religiously affiliated.[23] Though Millennials are less religious than previous generations at the same age frame, they are also much less engaged in many social institutions in general than previous generations.[12]

So... There's an evangelical preacher named Kat Kerr who claims to have the ability to dispatch flights of Angels to destroy ISIS and carries a magic staff with a crystal on it that she "hits" hurricanes with believing she has the power to disperse them. I wish I were making this up.

Now, say this woman had some knowledge of the law and Trump put her up as a SCOTUS nominee. This is not implausible given that he wanted the MyPillow guy to develop a cure for Covid and the carny sideshow act he's padded his administration with.

Say this woman was nominated. For the folks in this thread saying it's out of bounds to question Amy Coney Barrett possibly speaking in tongues and her subservience to "the head," anti abortion beliefs, etc.... are you saying it would be inappropriate to question Kat Kerr about her hurricane banishing abilities or the billions of angels she believes she commands? That's her religion.

I get you're all thinking tactically and how to not ruffle feathers of the religious, but where is the line? I thought the rightful eviscerating of the Demon Sperm Doctor nearly established it.

What about Peter Popoff, the televangelist scam artist that sells people tap water blessed by the Holy Spirit that is guaranteed to produce a miracle for them? What if Trump put this guy in charge of Coronavirus and his solution to it was for everyone to buy his magic tap water? That's also his religious belief.

Either all of these are beyond criticism and scrutiny or none of them are.

Kat sends her love, btw, even to us degenerate gays (not really.) She's called in 1000 "special ops" angels to ensure a Trump victory.

How are anyone's beliefs irrelevant to how they might interpret or strike down laws? Justices are supposed to be neutral arbiters, I've been told, but that's rarely the case. Any otherwise disqualifying delusion can now be claimed to be a religious belief.

I agree Democratic members of the Senate need to tread lightly around this. Since we here discussing this aren’t Senators we’re free to rip this bitch a new asshole over her terrible evil idiotic belief system.

Voters want the U.S. Senate to confirm Amy Coney Barrett by a 23-point margin—51% to 28%—in new @MorningConsult poll.

Well that’s it then. Will of the people. Goodbye to everything that was good about this fucking country.

Even if only 10% of Americans supported her confirmation, Republicans would approve her nomination. This is the culmination of decades of dreams and work