Dylan Sprouse in DADDY (2020)

What is Dylan’s and Cole’s skin color?

Nice find. I didn't find Dylan's character warm/tender. He was clearly putting up with/humoring old guy and playing his escort role for the money. Especially that sigh at the end as he walks away.

Dylan has so many moles.

I don’t get it.

Cause you need to pay.

Liked the room service waiter.

[quote]An Eldergay dream?

Mmm, no.

At 3:20 Rifkin rashly enters the fierce DL debate over the relationship between Cary Grant and Randolph Scott.

The Shirley Temples are in the wrong kind of glass.

If the man has never kissed a boy, why would this happen?

[quote]If the man has never kissed a boy, why would this happen?

Since Rifkin's character brings up Cary Grant and Randolph Scott and their number of marriages, I assume Rifkin's character is closeted and now that he's a widower, he wanted to indulge.

That was not my idea of indulging.

The ending would’ve been better if the old guy had ordered some more room service and let the pretty little things go at each other.

What’s his skin color?

B O R I N G

This is why they...

I thought it was tender and sweet.

Old guy Ron could have been straight, so he felt like getting a male escort for companionship was not considered cheating on his dead wife.

[quote] didn't find Dylan's character warm/tender. He was clearly putting up with/humoring old guy and playing his escort role for the money. Especially that sigh at the end

Respectfully disagree.

Dylan’s hustler character (named ‘Paul’, in the credits) seems to me a kind genuine soul displaying a rare honesty given his trade. He has the feel of a much more stable and upbeat Mike (MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO). Perhaps it is the energy and look Dylan brings to the role, but there is something caring and sunny about the character. He almost seems otherworldly, and I have to admit I questioned whether the character was real during the dance sequence (when we see Paul against a dark lit-up city backdrop smiling and striding off into the night).

From the way he talks to Mr. Smith (Ron’s character) and the body language the camera focuses on, it is suggested that Paul does have at least a little real affection for the other man that creeps in at the edges of his professional front. What I think is so lovely about the film is that the affection we do see is of indeterminate character - some minutes like that we’d expect between May-December lovers (when they talk in the bathroom), some like that we’d expect between new friends of similar age (when they converse on the bed), and some like that we’d expect between a grandfather and grandson (when they two hug for the last time in the hotel corridor).

Maybe I wasn’t watching closely enough, but I thought I saw Paul smile sadly but fondly during the final scene, rather than roll his eyes and smirk. Clearly there are different readings for this piece.

Room service guy played his part perfectly. Older guy was really good.

Some YouTube commenters are comparing the kiss in this to the one between Leo DiCap & David Thewlis in TOTAL ECLIPSE. These people are dumb, and like gradeschoolers draw facile comparisons between things that appear similar.

Leo’s Rimbaud was a manipulative little bitch in that movie, not a bit like Dylan’s character here. Both characters in TOTAL ECLIPSE were a fair bit younger than the ones in DADDY, and the nature of the relationships in each film couldn’t be more different - the former a deep and destructive bond of equals and rivals, the latter a very brief healing encounter between two people of different status levels. Even the physical blocking and power dynamic of the kisses taken totally out of context do not align in any way.

Imagine how hard life must be for poor gay Cole Sprouse, always having a man that gorgeous smiling at you from a breath away - across a car console or a coffee table or a bedspread - and sharing so much of yourself inside and out with him, but knowing you can’t close the circle and become sexually intimate with him in any way that topside society finds acceptable. Worse, that same society is constantly comparing you to him and not always favourably, so there is no escape.

Trivia: the hot room service waiter is played by Cooper Koch, who also played "hot guy on train" in DL fave "West 40s" (pilot episode of failed tv show/ crowdfunded streaming show)

Go on, r22, don't stop! And don't leave out the yearning looks, heaving chests and undulating hips drenched in sweaty desire!

R22, that's nifty.

Dylan bump

Totally boring and Dylan is just too pretty for my taste.

I can't decide which sugarbaby look fits Dylan better.

/ / /

Is this the Sprouse twin who saucily takes photos of people taking photos of him and posts them on Instagram?

I thought the room service guy was unprofessionally overfamiliar. Were we to understand that he didn't know the Ron Rifkin character was right there observing? Even so ...

Room service twink knew the story, his knowing smirks said alot. He was low-key trying to let the whore know he was available for any "leftovers."

[quote] I thought the room service guy was unprofessionally overfamiliar.

This took me a little out of the scene too, as the hotel seemed very upscale. Suppose R31 has it right, that the bellhop was just young, awestruck by Dylan’s character’s beauty, and probably quite hard up for it after a long boring dry season working the doors at the Plaza Whatever.

R28 the slickback ponytail, crisp black shirt and leather jacket combo has changed me forever. He looks like a Gaijin Yakuza.

The dress conceit was cute and nice to see, but there was something a bit forced and silly about it, too. They didn’t really need to do it to get the point across, and it felt gratuitous. After all, the deceased wife was elderly and it was clear her taste didn’t run to Demi Moore-style party frocks.

Cole was usually the one wearing dresses back when the twins worked for Disney. There were at least three episodes of THE SUITE LIFE where he put on a wig & frock.

Also, both twins did a couple of sad disturbing scenes dressed in drag as little eleven year old kids, for the creepy film adaptation of THE HEART IS DECEITFUL ABOVE ALL THINGS (2004) with Asia Argento & Marilyn Manson.

[quote]Cole was usually the one wearing dresses back when the twins worked for Disney. There were at least three episodes of THE SUITE LIFE where he put on a wig & frock.

It's beyond creepy that you know this

R34 I’m female and literally the same age as Cole & Dylan, and I have younger siblings & cousins who growing up were constantly watching The Disney Channel in the house. I caught most of the Sprouse twins’ early work by osmosis and against my will.

Barely remember now, but I think I did see THE HEART IS DECEITFUL movie by choice, because I read the book first and was morbidly curious. Wish I hadn’t, in retrospect.

So, not the creepy Eldergay you were hoping to bust. Sorry, Mr. Hansen🙄You’re doing great work though, keep it up.

R33, intriguing. Tell me more.

It is crazy to realize the twins are almost 30 now. Time flies.

[quote]I’m female

Relevant how? Oh, right, only gay men can be creeps? Fuck off, cunt.

R38 implication being - this is a gay board, and the poster you are addressing is female, meaning it’s a high probability they are lesbian (which I am) and not creeping on a Sprouse twin (which I am not).

Sidebar - are some of you needing to up your vitamins, pop a vike or smoke a bowl? Lately on DL I feel like I’m wading through a horde of persnickety senility-cases, desperate to be offended and gasping to froth and scream obscene accusations at the nearest nice person wanting to have a regular discussion about pop-culture. Even just a couple of years back, the vibes around here weren’t this dire.

Like, I’m just an everyday dyke, I don’t need this life. Cool off, maybe. Or there are plenty of gross Frauen and perverted middle-aged guys to go after, if you really refuse to chill.

[quote]Imagine how hard life must be for poor gay Cole Sprouse, always having a man that gorgeous smiling at you from a breath away - across a car console or a coffee table or a bedspread - and sharing so much of yourself inside and out with him, but knowing you can’t close the circle and become sexually intimate with him in any way that topside society finds acceptable.

Yeah, you don't sound creepy at all, R39

[quote]He was clearly putting up with/humoring old guy and playing his escort role for the money. Especially that sigh at the end as he walks away.

I think he liked him enough but at the end his "Goodnight" and the expression on his face when he said it was a clear, "Okay, you're prolonging this. This is transaction is over." I think his smirk is him "thinking" about the evening then snapping himself out of it. Maybe it did make him uncomfortable even if he wasn't showing it and then the sigh was a, "well, just another day's work." His smile directly at the camera in the end was either him smiling at himself for doing such a good job or more likely him breaking character to unnerve the audience and smiling directly at us.

[quote]Like, I’m just an everyday dyke, I don’t need this life.

If you grew up when the show was on then it's not creepy. You watched it. You'd know. Some people here forget that the ages run the gamut from people in their 70s and 80s to people who are teens. I was a teen when I first started coming here! I know how this board is and every now and then you'll encounter someone who has a bee in their bonnet but no worries. Just ignore them and move on. Bless.

"Cole was usually the one wearing dresses back when the twins worked for Disney. There were at least three episodes of THE SUITE LIFE where he put on a wig & frock."

But he didn't shave his pits.

Huh. You know, think I stepped over R40 in a snowbank last winter.

Sweet.

[quote]Cole was usually the one wearing dresses back when the twins worked for Disney. There were at least three episodes of THE SUITE LIFE where he put on a wig & frock

Dylan was too rotund to pull off thin straps.

R39 wins the round! Good points.

R18 I never considered that...what an interesting suggestion. You could be right!

R42 Looks better than Millie Bobbie Brown and Emma Watson.

I don't like the title. Realistically, it should have been called Grand daddy, amirite?

I thought Dylan was very good in this and I think he should be given some bigger, more substantial roles - he's talented.

R50 I agree.

And furthermore - this sounds awful to say, but I feel compelled - he’s a better actor than his brother, I believe because he’s less self-conscious about his looks and his intellect, so he can ‘get out of his own way’ and deliver a warm dynamic performance. Perhaps he was given more encouragement or more preferential treatment as a child than Cole, or perhaps he is simply more confident and less cerebral by nature. I utterly believe his performances, where Cole sometimes fails to convince.

Both twins are competent and switched-on for their age, and Cole seems even more smart and self-aware than Dylan. However, from what I gather listening to his interview comments and seeing his work this is almost crippling for Cole as an adult, and possibly somewhat impedes his ability to perform in a natural way - or, at least, to perform without archness or affect. He also seems to be the twin carrying the chip on his shoulder (there’s always one) about identity and inferiority, which clearly plays havoc with his comfort levels getting in and out of character. It always feels to me like Cole ought to favour directing or critiquing film, rather than performing in it.

Cole's the fat one, right?

Dylan's the fat one.

Which one is Jughead?

Cole

Cole either smokes too much, has some kind of disordered nutrient uptake, or maintains improper skincare routines. His skin compared to Dylan’s is in poor condition.

He’s amusing and rather quick, though. I appreciate his offbeat ska-rockabilly White Stripes-fan dress sense, too.

Cole hasn't got bad skin though...

A must watch, sweet short film.

R42 I'm surprised Debby Ryan didn't force him into a tub and do it for him.

A cheap and uncourageous attempt at.... schlock.

Apparently the tea bag of "Zoo Story" can be used so many times one ends with tepid, clear tap water in the end.

Why was I reminded of Our Joel so much while watching this? Speaking of, I hope Joel is okay.

But seriously, this reminded me of some of my trysts with older men when I was in my 20s. Granted, I never got paid, but I went out to dinners and was wined and dined, etc. Had a couple of guys want to introduce me to their children who were older than me, and I'd get cold feet and never see them again. Now that I'm 40, I appreciate that the guys were trying to include me in their lives.

Well, he's no me.

Dylan doesn't get Disney residuals, and they paid him a pittance as a minor independent contractor, so perhaps he has turned tricks IRL.

This was written by people who have no knowledge of male escorts, or are not gay, or both.

It would’ve thrown off the vibe if the old guy had shoved his tongue up Dylan’s musky fart box in the first 2 minutes.

I'm a huge fan of Cole. Not clicking, so is Dylan as attractive and talented. They're twins aren't they.

[Quote] Not clicking, so is

Not answering.

Except for the chest fur Dylan does look like a soft and pretty girl next door.

Dylan really is the more charismatic brother by a long shot. He has more wit, confidence and a better smile. No shade, just facts.

He’s also got a brighter, warmer complexion and fuller, more expressive features, which make him more conventionally attractive. He has a wider face and usually is the chunkier one, but lately he’s looking sleeker.

Cole looks better with his natural hair color.

Cole is a well-documented str8 asshole…and no, I’ll not google it for you.

[quote] I’m female and literally the same age as Cole & Dylan

No, you're not.

[quote] I have younger siblings & cousins who growing up were constantly watching The Disney Channel in the house.

No, you don't.

R72 Are you talking to yourself?

Just another boring gay drama about degenerate relationships. On the plus side, at least they didn't make the hooker come from a Midwest Christian background. Small mercies.

He looks like Britt Westbourne (Kelly Thiebaud) from General Hospital in this.

That boy is hot !

I love the way Dylan Sprouse plays the part.

Me too

He's so hot also.

[quote] degenerate relationships ???

R75, are you writing from the 1960s?

At last! We now have the perfect actor for the Nicolas Fairford bio flick!!