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What's The Difference Between a Governess, a Nanny and an Armoire

I know Fran and Phoebe were nannies.

by Anonymousreply 55October 9, 2020 6:23 PM

An armoire is a wardrobe, you dumbfuck.

by Anonymousreply 1October 8, 2020 9:52 AM

I’m not OP but I’ll give this a try.

What’s the difference between a governess, a nanny and an au pair?

by Anonymousreply 2October 8, 2020 10:13 AM

I think the terms are interchangeable, however the distinction is teaching and live in or out. Usually a nanny is a babysitter who does not live with the family. A governess lives in, and is also responsible for home schooling the children besides their care. An au-pair lives in, but is a combination of maid and nanny - usually will not in home school. She usually will service the daddy too (well at least according to news stories).

by Anonymousreply 3October 8, 2020 10:19 AM

WTF?

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by Anonymousreply 4October 8, 2020 10:21 AM

Exactly R4. What a positively dreadful refinish on that ARMOIRE.

by Anonymousreply 5October 8, 2020 10:39 AM

What's the Difference Between a Collage, a Decoupage, and a Décolletage?

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by Anonymousreply 6October 8, 2020 10:46 AM

What's The Difference Between Cycling, Biking, and Motorboating?

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by Anonymousreply 7October 8, 2020 10:50 AM

What's the Difference Between a Pizza, a Panini, and a Mussolini?

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by Anonymousreply 8October 8, 2020 10:52 AM

OP= Larry King

by Anonymousreply 9October 8, 2020 11:05 AM
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by Anonymousreply 10October 8, 2020 11:08 AM

I don't know nothin' about armoires, but, my chifforobe needs busting.

by Anonymousreply 11October 8, 2020 11:12 AM

Give OP a break. That was very simply one of the greatest questions ever asked on DL.

by Anonymousreply 12October 8, 2020 11:17 AM

No difference, Rose. All three have more brains than u do.

by Anonymousreply 13October 8, 2020 11:18 AM

Actually here is the difference:

Schwarzenegger actually fucked all three of them but didn't impregnate the armoire

by Anonymousreply 14October 8, 2020 11:20 AM

What is the difference between a Bombardier, a Baccardí, and a bombé chest?

by Anonymousreply 15October 8, 2020 11:21 AM

A nanny is for babies and toddlers. Very much confined to the nursey where she is queen.

A governess is for children who are home-schooled. Stays in the classroom where she is queen. Often she is a person of gentle birth and education, fallen on hard times.

The au pair is a pair of long legs and big tits for the father of the family, from time to time, on the pretext that she's learning English and has to live with an English-speaking family. Nordic girls esp.

by Anonymousreply 16October 8, 2020 11:22 AM

They hired some slut named Ursula to be an au pair on Designing Women while they were all vacationing. The men were drooling.

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by Anonymousreply 17October 8, 2020 11:28 AM

An au pair has no training in child care and is supposed to just help with laundry/meals for the kids. If you employ one to act as a nanny for cheapness, you may have a problem.

by Anonymousreply 18October 8, 2020 12:38 PM

An Au Pair is defined as a young person (between the ages of 18-30), who goes abroad to live with a native family and learn (or perfect) a language in exchange for childcare. Meanwhile, a nanny does not take part in any cultural exchange and gets a salary as in any other job.

A governess is a woman employed to teach and train children in a private household. In contrast to a nanny (formerly called a nurse), she concentrates on teaching children, rather than caring for their physical needs. Her charges are of school age rather than babies.

by Anonymousreply 19October 8, 2020 12:53 PM

Which one was Charles in Charge?

He was in his early-mid twenties, lived in the house basement of a rich family, and was studying some sort of technical degree while working occasional shifts at his mother’s(?) diner. He watched the place in the parents’ absence, acted as a chauffeur of sorts and taught their kids some social skills, but he didn’t help with any homework unless cornered into it and he sure as shit didn’t make dinner or garden or do laundry every day. Not sure if he got a salary, but it didn’t seem like it. The dad seemed straight, so doubtful Charles was servicing him (maybe the Mom wanted him as eye candy). The kids he looked after were all fairly independent teens, so Charles didn’t seem to have any specific reason for staying with the main family. Does that mean was he just a sagacious tenant and housesitter who didn’t mind kids? A driver? A glorified chaperone? (which, yeah, nice job....)

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by Anonymousreply 20October 8, 2020 1:28 PM

I think that the question asked by OP is in fact a clever riddle inspired by "Why is a raven like a writing desk ?" I hope OP will give us the answer.

by Anonymousreply 21October 8, 2020 1:54 PM

r2

Yeah right, next thing you'll do is blame it on autocorrect.

by Anonymousreply 22October 8, 2020 4:59 PM

Wasn't Mary Poppins a nanny? Fran and Phoebe were.

by Anonymousreply 23October 8, 2020 5:02 PM

What's The Difference Between a Sweet Potato, a Yam and a LC2 Fauteuil?

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by Anonymousreply 24October 8, 2020 5:09 PM

R20 That would be a Manny, I believe.

by Anonymousreply 25October 8, 2020 8:41 PM

R20 That would be a Manny, I believe.

by Anonymousreply 26October 8, 2020 8:41 PM

A friend of the bosom.

by Anonymousreply 27October 8, 2020 8:46 PM

What about the difference between a wizard, a sorcerer and a toaster?

by Anonymousreply 28October 8, 2020 9:05 PM

A governess was a position that existed in Victorian times and earlier when homeschooling was not a fundie thing but rather due to the lack of any other acceptable options.

A nanny was who someone who looked after babies and small children in the 19th and 20th century, though clueless people will still use it. (The more acceptable term these days is "babysitter" because it's supposed to sound less pretentious though everyone still knows you are not referring to a teenage girl from down the street who watches the kids while mom and dad go see a movie.) In NYC the majority of babysitters are Caribbean.

An au pair is fairly recent form of live-in child care, a young woman from another country or Flyoverstan who lives with the family for a year or two and minds the kids. She will likely be younger and more educated than a babysitter. The most in-demand au pairs are those who can also teach their charges a foreign language--French, Spanish, German, etc. Some people love this arrangements, others start to dislike it because of the constant disruptions (au pairs generally stay for only one or two years, meaning the family may have more than a half dozen au pairs until the kids are old enough to not need one.)

by Anonymousreply 29October 8, 2020 9:08 PM

R11 love the reference!

by Anonymousreply 30October 8, 2020 9:15 PM

What's the difference between a lion, a witch, and a wardrobe?

by Anonymousreply 31October 8, 2020 10:36 PM

We could fit more in my nanny than our armoire.

by Anonymousreply 32October 8, 2020 10:37 PM

The Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Clarita Diet?

by Anonymousreply 33October 8, 2020 10:51 PM

R11, is ya gonna give me a nickle?

by Anonymousreply 34October 8, 2020 10:57 PM

Mrs. Deveroux always screamed for me whenever one of her little brats cried in the middle of the night. Stupid bitch.

by Anonymousreply 35October 8, 2020 11:41 PM

What's the difference between a peignoir, a negligee, and a semanier?

by Anonymousreply 36October 8, 2020 11:53 PM

I was a Governess once. It didn't go well.

by Anonymousreply 37October 9, 2020 12:22 AM

Nannies and nurse maids provide child care

Governesses are educators who were employed to teach young children tutored at home.

In terms of status (far as UK and much of Europe is concerned), governesses ranked higher than nannies in old days.

Nannies were drawn from the servant class, upstairs servants, but never the less still just that.

Governesses by nature of position had to have some sort of education, and thus were drawn from middle or above classes. The job was often taken by daughters of impoverished middle class or even noble families. This and or widows of same such as Anna Leonowens of "King and I " fame.

Since governesses were above servant class taking such a position in a household wasn't seen as a disgrace. In various fiction such as Jane Austen novels girls/women lamented at their fate (being from limited financial circumstances), that would compel them sooner or later to seek employment as a governess. For such females their only other escape was marriage, hopefully to a man of means, otherwise.....

Governesses did not concern themselves with matters outside of education. Thus households with school age children employed both; childminders (nannies) and governesses.

British families often sent boys away to public school by time they were seven or eight, thus leaving governesses largely in charge of school aged girls. But some families both in UK and elsewhere packed young girls off to boarding/convent schools as well thus eliminating need for a governess or tutors.

From late 1800's onward one of Britain's chief exports have been trained nannies and governesses (Germany and France came in close second). Royal courts, noble households, and just plain wealthy all over Europe/world sought to employ them. Alexandra of Russia employed British nannies for her children among a very long list of famous households.

British nannies and governesses were drawn from that rare breed known as "English ladies", and it was those and other qualities families wanted for their households/children. This was especially true if their charges were to be girls/young women.

Americans throw "nanny" around to any jumped up immigrant woman who cares for their children. Whereas in Great Britain at least the term is more regulated, and cream of that crop are Norland nannies. When you see British nannies depicted in film or other media with that distinctive hat, cape, gloves and rest of uniform, those are graduates of nanny colleges, of which Norland is top.

The Cambridges hired a Norland nanny, as I believe most other households of BRF have done as well.

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by Anonymousreply 38October 9, 2020 12:29 AM

Puce, Abuse and Loose. ,

by Anonymousreply 39October 9, 2020 12:33 AM

Nannies from which foreign country were valued often reflected associations of ruling classes/society. Hence this comment from Che in "Evita", which reflects Argentina's ruling classes preoccupation with Europe, in particular GB and France.

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On the 9th February 1935, in Buenos Aires--a polo match, between a team of leading Argentine players and the touring British side.

The British ambassador said he had never seen a social occasion quite like it. Even by the standards of Buenos Aires society the gathering at the polo ground glittered.

The Rolls' and the Daimlers, the hampers from Harrods, the clothes, the diamonds, the crystal, the wines, the procession of nannies from England and France. The result of the match? Oh yes-- the home team won, but as the British ambassador pointed out, that did not reflect badly on British horsemanship. Three of the Argentine players were educated at Eton.

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by Anonymousreply 40October 9, 2020 12:36 AM

For those interested, yes, Norland does now accept males seeking to become "mannies".

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by Anonymousreply 41October 9, 2020 12:57 AM

Governesses

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by Anonymousreply 42October 9, 2020 1:07 AM

How about mammies?

by Anonymousreply 43October 9, 2020 2:02 AM

Wet nurses too.

by Anonymousreply 44October 9, 2020 2:06 AM

My guess is that au pairs get the most cock from their host family's father.

by Anonymousreply 45October 9, 2020 2:13 AM

Governess = Victoria Winters

Nanny = Fran Fine

Armoire = Nell Carter

by Anonymousreply 46October 9, 2020 2:23 AM

Bonus tidbit....

Historically one reason families sent their boys away to public school was so they could be educated in received pronunciation. This would replace the often "low" English accents picked up from nannies and other servants. As wealth moved down the ladder with merchants, bankers, brewers, etc.. joining not just the middle classes but becoming wealthy this was even more important. Those men (and often their wives) were common, and had accents that at once betrayed their origins. They wanted their sons to be "gentlemen", and that meant having a certain accent.

Given the horrible state of education for girls in GB well into the late 1800's even though governesses drew their ranks from "ladies", not all were equally polished in terms of English speech and grammar. They also likely would have lacked sufficient background in Latin and Greek which was deemed of utmost importance when it came to educating boys at least.

by Anonymousreply 47October 9, 2020 2:47 AM

Nanny Muller for the win!

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by Anonymousreply 48October 9, 2020 2:49 AM

Handmaidens? They don't have to breed.

by Anonymousreply 49October 9, 2020 5:36 AM

Handmaidens are just unpaid surrogates, so we're really at that stage of things when you think about it.

by Anonymousreply 50October 9, 2020 6:37 AM

Great question!

by Anonymousreply 51October 9, 2020 6:42 AM

What about pool boys?

by Anonymousreply 52October 9, 2020 8:14 AM

Don't forget nephews.

by Anonymousreply 53October 9, 2020 8:59 AM

What's the difference between douche, a deuce, and a Danny Bonaduce?

by Anonymousreply 54October 9, 2020 5:31 PM

I can play this one. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

What do I win?

by Anonymousreply 55October 9, 2020 6:23 PM
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